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johnrapier
30th of March 2004 (Tue), 16:56
Can someone help me. Whenever I tweak an image in photoshop then try to take it to a fuji frontier it recognizes the file but cannot open it. Surely there is a simple solution. I am running PS 7.

TIA,
John Rapier

PacAce
30th of March 2004 (Tue), 17:10
Can someone help me. Whenever I tweak an image in photoshop then try to take it to a fuji frontier it recognizes the file but cannot open it. Surely there is a simple solution. I am running PS 7.

TIA,
John Rapier

How's the file being save? JPEG? TIFF? Or are you taking your CF card straight from the camera to the printer?

Scottes
30th of March 2004 (Tue), 17:48
I know the Fuji can print JPGs and TIFFs. I'de be surprised if it could print PSDs.

defordphoto
30th of March 2004 (Tue), 19:04
Can someone help me. Whenever I tweak an image in photoshop then try to take it to a fuji frontier it recognizes the file but cannot open it. Surely there is a simple solution. I am running PS 7.

TIA,
John Rapier

Some vendors/storefronts seem to have a file size limit. I had some photos I tried to have printed at WalMart and their machine wouldn't take the files at all. Went to Costco with exact saem CD, no problem.

scsmith10D
31st of March 2004 (Wed), 04:45
I had an odd occurence last week with a Fuji. I had tweaked a couple of dozen images in Photoshop Elements and saved over the existing jpegs in a folder with the tweaked jpegs. I then took them to a Wal-mart and stuck the card into the front computer. It showed 2 images for each of the shots I had edited. I went through and selected the second of each pair and submitted. When I returned, each of those printed as pure color noise. The tech put my card in her computer in the back and it only showed one image for the edits. She re-selected them and made good prints. I finally guessed that the Fuji was reading the preview thumbnails that Elements created and I just picked wrong.

msvadi
31st of March 2004 (Wed), 07:44
If you save a file in the TIFF format make sure it's 8 bits/channel. The printer cannot print 16 bits/channel files. It recognizes 16 bits files, but it reports an error when one tries to print it. Also, JPEG or TIFF, make sure your files are converted to sRGB. Fuji Frontier machines expect sRGB and thy cannot read assigned profiles, so you have to convert. You can get overexposed/oversaturated pictures with awful color noise if the files are in Adobe RGB (not always, but quite likely).

OviV
31st of March 2004 (Wed), 08:34
Guys,

His problem is with the fufi frontier not the fuji frontier. :lol:

Whaler
31st of March 2004 (Wed), 10:53
When you resolve your Tiff VS JPEG problem go here:

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Frontier/FrontierDatabase.htm

and see if they have your store front vendors printer profile. Post process your pictures in PS, assign the profile for butt kickin'/drop dead gorgeous prints. I use Costco. :D :D

msvadi
31st of March 2004 (Wed), 11:01
I want to mention again that assigning a profile is not going to help. Those machines cannot read assigned profiles, you have actually to convert images to profiles you want to use. Any assigned profile will be simply ignored.

Some time ago printed a few pics using drycreek profiles and did not like the results. There are rumors over the internet that those profiles are not valid anymore since those machines assume that you have images in sRGB. Anyway, I obtained best prints by using sRGB and worst with drycreek profiles. However, it might be a problem with my local Costco lab. It's quite likely that they've changed something and did not update their profiles with drycreek.

When you resolve your Tiff VS JPEG problem go here:

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Frontier/FrontierDatabase.htm

and see if they have your store front vendors printer profile. Post process your pictures in PS, assign the profile for butt kickin'/drop dead gorgeous prints. I use Costco. :D :D

Whaler
31st of March 2004 (Wed), 11:33
My mistake :oops: "convert images to profile" . . . . Special instructions should read "turn off auto functions" At 0.15 a print give it a try. . . . In my case, as I stated, Costco did a great job compared to a semi pro printing house that I have used. When discussing my first run with the Costco tech, he knew what I was talking about. If printer auto function is not turned off I imagine it will print as a standard sRGB. Hey, I'm a newbie, call it dumb luck.

msvadi
31st of March 2004 (Wed), 11:43
Right! sometimes a technician decides to improve your pictures and turns on auto-correction, or simply forgets to turn it off after the previous customer. So, check the codes on the back of your pictures. It should be all "NNNNN". If, instead, you see something with a "+" or "-" and you are not happy with the results ask them to print it again.

Scottes
31st of March 2004 (Wed), 14:12
From what I remember of Dry Creek's instructions you have to tell the Frontier operator to turn OFF the color profile stuff, and don't do any corrections.

NNNNNN just means no corrections - it could still have been printed as sRGB when you had it saved with a Frontier profile.

However, I never tried it. I went through hell once asking them the DPI of the printer - got 3 shrugs and then the manager said "280". When I asked about color profiles he said "If you figure it out please let us know."

So what little I've printed there has been done in sRGB with no questions, no instructions, just a disk. It's good enough for what I get done there.

animator
31st of March 2004 (Wed), 16:27
My 2 cents:

1. Read this article:
http://bermangraphics.com/press/frontier.htm

2. Sleep with the lab assistant.