OK, who's going to talk me into it?

[Tom W]

The 24-70L, that is....

I have had very good luck with my 28-105, but its a little slow, aperture-wise. I've owned a used but clean 24-85 for about 24 hours and I'm not satisfied - its soft even stopped down. I fear the inevitable - that I will go to "L" if I don't change my ways.

So, someone talk me into or out of that lens. :)

[motophoto]

Just do it.




did it work?

[OviV]

Don't do it. Just use plenty of Unsharp Mask it will clear that 24-85 right up. :D

[Cadwell]

When *I* get to this stage in the "consideration" process, I know I'm gonna buy it anyway. If you're anything like me... making this post is just kidding yourself - surrender to the inevitable :P :wink:

[Scottes]

If a bunch of us will each pledge a box of Kraft Dinner will that make the ensuing poverty any easier to deal with?

If so, I'm in for a box.

[Cadwell]

If a bunch of us will each pledge a box of Kraft Dinner will that make the ensuing poverty any easier to deal with?

If so, I'm in for a box.

Dunno if I can get Kraft Dinner this side of the pond... will a large bag of porridge oats do? If so I'm in!

[Tom W]

Don't do it. Just use plenty of Unsharp Mask it will clear that 24-85 right up. :D

You knew I couldn't get through this thread without some serious measurebating.

Here's a 100% crop of the upper lefthand corner of a 24-85 shot at 85 mm, either f/7.1 or f/8:

http://home.comcast.net/~trwilk3/Images/2485_1.jpg

Same lens, same scenario after a serious cleaning:

http://home.comcast.net/~trwilk3/Images/2485_2.jpg

A little better, but bad compared to the 28-105 at around 80 mm, f/7.1:

http://home.comcast.net/~trwilk3/Images/28105_1.jpg

The results were typical of various aperture settings and at various zoom settings. I think I know why he was selling this lens.

[CoolToolGuy]

Its a bit heavy, but it is a sweet hunk of glass. Go for it. :D

Have Fun
Rick 8)

[Tom W]

Its a bit heavy, but it is a sweet hunk of glass. Go for it. :D

Have Fun
Rick 8)

Hey, I can keep the 28-105 for those light days!

Honestly, I don't know why I didn't just go for the L in the first place.

I'll take all the macaroni and cheese I can get. It'll go well with some salt-cured road kill and stolen vegetables from the neighbor's garden. :)

[Belmondo]

The 24-70 is my 'defauLt' Lens. It stays on the one body aLmost aLL the time. I do the Lens swapping on the other body so I'LL aLways have the 24-70 avaiLable. It is the most versatiLe Lens I own and consistentLy gives the best image quaLity. I couLdn't imagine Life without it.

You wiLL feeL that way, too.

[Tom W]

Why do I find that everything with the Letter "L" stands out now? ;)

[Whaler]

Just Dial

212.444.6794 or 800.856.9048 :twisted:

[mttmrphy]

On my way to my local camera shop I was behind a truck with a big sign on the back that said "No L". I don't know what it actually means but I took it as a sign from god.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Tom,

Don't know if this interests you,. but I found a "less than mint" 28-70mm f/2.8 L for only $600.00 after keping my eye open for about two months...

...I was actually going to get a Tokina or Tamron or soemthing in this range.. as I jsut don't shoot with it often enough to feel that I needed this one to be an L...

...but when I saw the used one for $600.00 I jumped,. and needless to say,. I now use this range more often! :wink:


Just a thought.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Its a bit heavy, but it is a sweet hunk of glass. Go for it. :D

Have Fun
Rick 8)

Hey, I can keep the 28-105 for those light days!


It's a lens,. not a panty liner... :shock: :roll:



...and no,.. you'll never use the 28-105 again.. :wink:

[CoolToolGuy]

Its a bit heavy, but it is a sweet hunk of glass. Go for it. :D

Have Fun
Rick 8)

Hey, I can keep the 28-105 for those light days!


It's a lens,. not a panty liner... :shock: :roll:



...and no,.. you'll never use the 28-105 again.. :wink:

Oh, I don't know - I have the 24-70 and the 28-135 IS, and even though the camera is stored in the bag with the 24-70 on it, I find uses for the 28-135. So now we'll have to talk Tom into getting a 28-135 as well (here we go again :roll: ).

And, CDS, you've had the '1D arrived today' in your signature for a couple of days now - how many do you actually have? I think you're hoarding... :roll:

Have Fun
Rick 8)

[Ferdinand]

Just get it! Why? Let me tell you why.

1) I tried to be cheap, and did some research and was looking at the 17-40mm f/4. Boy was I in great agorny. All the sleepless night deciding, deep inside you know 24-70mm f/2.8 is among one of the top Canon Zoom lenses, the other would be the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS (bare in mind I am not talking about Primes here).

2) I looked at Tamron 28-75mm DI XR, and just can't quite risk going for a non Canon lens that might have compatibility issues down the road.

3) You will spend more money upgrading slowly than to go for a great lens right off the bat.

4) When I whip out my 24-70mm f/2.8L in front of a total stranger in a park and ask if I can photograph her, she agreed! http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28610 now THAT has to be worth the price of the Canon 24-70mm f/2.8L USM hehehehe

Regards,
Ferdinand

[rodbunn]

17-40 sample;

http://www.xposeu.com/jaimie.jpg

[Tom W]

Just Dial

212.444.6794 or 800.856.9048 :twisted:

...or www.bhphotovideo.com or www.keh.com or www.adorama.com or......

:)

I almost had one lined up at FM for $1000, but that wasn't to be.

[Tom W]

Its a bit heavy, but it is a sweet hunk of glass. Go for it. :D

Have Fun
Rick 8)

Hey, I can keep the 28-105 for those light days!


It's a lens,. not a panty liner... :shock: :roll:

Depends.... ;)



...and no,.. you'll never use the 28-105 again.. :wink:

Well, something has to cover that gaping hole on the front of the Elan.

[Ballen Photo]

If a bunch of us will each pledge a box of Kraft Dinner will that make the ensuing poverty any easier to deal with?

If so, I'm in for a box.

I find that Top Ramen helps to ease my pain, it's difficult trying to figure out how to wear the cellophane wrappers though. :eyes Ah, so THAT'S why you guys go for the Kraft. I sure do like how my 70-200 L glass works with my 10D. :D
........Bruce

[Tom W]

On my way to my local camera shop I was behind a truck with a big sign on the back that said "No L". I don't know what it actually means but I took it as a sign from god.

Did it say "Nikon" on the side?
That wasn't God talking to you..... ;)

[Mills]

Go for it. I think it's my favorite.

[nosquare2003]

Seems something wrong with your copy of 24-85. It won't be that bad.

[Tom W]

The deed is done, as of 0001 hours pacific standard time, April 1, 2004. Just in time for the $50 rebate. :)

[Tom W]

Seems something wrong with your copy of 24-85. It won't be that bad.

I suspect that you're right - the 24-85 is generally a pretty decent lens. This one just had a knack for softness, particularly in the upper lefthand corner. It probably needs adjustment, but considering what I paid for it, that wouldn't be cost-effective. At any rate, its history now, having found its way to a broker - I won't sell a known defect here or at FM.

[IanD]

Damn,
I missed all the fun of helping Tom spend all his money. That is what I get for going away over night and not bringing the laptop with me.
Anyway here are the proddings I would have used-
1) Go for it
2) Pick up the damn phone. I'll send ya a quarter :lol:
3) Got 3 cases of Kraft Diner. 1 is on its way to you right now.
4) You really need this lens.
The rest I'll save for the next purchase :lol:

[Whaler]

I just don't understand. Why has SPAM taken a back seat the the Kraft cheeeeeesey dinners? When I was a young man and an "L" struck my fancy we would eat SPAM. All you young pups eating high on the hog Kraft dinners after the purchase of a lens. What is happening to the society we live in? :D :D

[Tom W]

The price of Spam is too high - Mac and cheese is cheaper now. :)

[CoolToolGuy]

I just don't understand. Why has SPAM taken a back seat the the Kraft cheeeeeesey dinners? When I was a young man and an "L" struck my fancy we would eat SPAM. All you young pups eating high on the hog Kraft dinners after the purchase of a lens. What is happening to the society we live in? :D :D

Geez, my rough days had me scouting for pot pies at the grocery store 'cause they were 2 for 89 cents on sale (long time ago).

Have Fun
Rick 8)

[Tom W]

Geez, my rough days had me scouting for pot pies at the grocery store 'cause they were 2 for 89 cents on sale (long time ago).

Have Fun
Rick 8)

I remember those days! I could spend about $60 and feed myself breakfast, lunch, and dinner for 2 weeks except for a little dinner at Mom's once a week and eating the $2.95 fish dinner special for lunch every Friday at the local pub near work. And I had to do that to make my house payment of $426 per month - things were that tight in those days.

I remember when I got my second job - what a relief. It put an extra $60 in my pocket every week just for working 20 hours a week. Nothing even remotely resembling "L" glass in those days.

[NILOLIGIST]

****IMPOSSIBLE IS NOTHING****JUST DO IT!!!!

Nike..LOL

NiL,