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timmyquest
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 00:49
The one thing that i originally enjoyed but am growing to dislike about my DSLR is the screen. I have review on and find myself as a DSLR...heck, a photography n00b. I chimp, and i chimp often. Starting the next time i pick up my camera, i'm turning the review off. I'll check out the picture for proper expos, but thats about it.
defordphoto
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 06:43
That's one of the first things I do when I get a new camera is turn that feature off. It's a waste of battery power. I review when I have the time. I do not review every shot. I know what I have shot 99.9& of the time and don't need the camera to confirm that.
GenEOS
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 06:49
Ya'll are closet chimpers...:-)
CyberDyneSystems
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 07:14
When I got my 1D last week,. the first time I used it I was suddenly startled by this bright light under my eye eminating from the back of the screen.. "My God what is happening??"
I had turned off the image review on my 10D just about exactly a year before.. hadn't seen it since.
scottbergerphoto
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 07:24
I don't know where you guys shoot, but it seems that wherever I go the lighting is uneven or backlit. I check the review/histogram every time I point the camera in a new direction. With studio lights I only check until I have what I want.
Regards,
Scott
Belmondo
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 10:13
That's one of the first things I do when I get a new camera is turn that feature off. It's a waste of battery power. I review when I have the time. I do not review every shot. I know what I have shot 99.9& of the time and don't need the camera to confirm that.
I would expect that when you're doing your 'battlefield photography', you have precious little time to chimp. It's only going to get worse with the Mk II.
Now it's May? Groan.
CyberDyneSystems
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 10:55
I don't know where you guys shoot, but it seems that wherever I go the lighting is uneven or backlit. I check the review/histogram every time I point the camera in a new direction. With studio lights I only check until I have what I want.
Regards,
Scott
I hear you Scott,. but when I wnt to check the histogram,. I just hit the little button... I mean.. if I am going to take the time to remove my eye from the viewfinder,. than I have time to hit the button..
I do use the LCD whenever I am both concerned about exposure and I hvae a moment to look.. but that never comes even remotely close to looking at every image taken.
Belmondo
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 11:40
One reason not to bother with the LCD is the image quality is so poor that the only thing you can really check with it is exposure. I've had pictures that looked pretty good on the LCD that were seriously out-of-focus.
I wonder if the LCD screen on the Mk II is going to be improved enough to make it useful for cheking focus. That would sure be a help in the field.
drisley
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 11:56
I chimp quite a bit, mainly because I shoot raw format only, and even on a 512MB CF card, I can only get 60-70 shots (depending on ISO).
So, I like to check my pictures often, and if there is a shot that is a total disaster, or I just dont like, I dump it.
If I had enough storage for a few hundred shots, then I probably wouldnt chimp at all.
Note to self, stop buying lenses and get another one or two 512MB CF card(s)!
karusel
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 13:10
Checking for correct exposure, via histogram or just looking at the shot considering to keep it or delete it is NOT chimping. The funky term 'chimping' is supposedly derived from the similarity of sounds that chimpanzee and human species make. The first one would go - oh oh oh oh oh ah ah ah ah (try to imagine the typical chimp voice) and the second - oh oh, look at this picture!! When after a shot you check for histogram it's not chimping, it's common-sensing.
Also I agree that the small LCD is absolutely inappropriate for checking focus.
GenEOS
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 13:17
A chimp by any other name is a chimp too!
:P
johneo
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 13:39
I review my shots about 75% of the time. The other 25% is usually shooting continuous or not having time to look. After yesterday I SHOULD review 100%
I was riding along and caught a heard of deer coming through a field. I stopped, grabbed the camera out of the bag and started shooting. After a number of shots I took a look at the last one then OH, OH! :oops: I had been messing around the evening before and left the camera on the settings I had last used ... 350/f 32 ... a load of wasted shots :oops: :roll: :oops:
By the time I realized this, the deer had moved into the brush. When I get the time I'm going to see what I can do with an editing program.
I know I shoud pay attention more and I really don't know how I didn't see the settings through the eyepiece. I think I was in awe that the deer were all standing there looking at me / posing for me.
I always use the review when possible because I try to better the last shot (framing, lighting zoom ... whatever). It's also one of the biggest advantages of digital over film, at least for me.
Claire
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 13:55
I got so used to just using the LCD screen when I had my IXUS. Now with the 300D I'm still getting used to looking through the viewfinder. :roll:
I'm starting to get annoyed though nowadays as my nose is always right by the LCD screen. It gets dirty fast and I feel like it's in the way. At the same time I do use it a lot to review pics.
drisley
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 17:56
According to this thread chimping means
"Checking My Pictures... it means checking your photo on the LCD immediately after taking it, to see if the composition, exposure etc. are OK."
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24631&highlight=chimp
defordphoto
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 18:27
According to this thread chimping means
"Checking My Pictures... it means checking your photo on the LCD immediately after taking it, to see if the composition, exposure etc. are OK."
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24631&highlight=chimp
Actually, from what I have heard, Chimp'ing means checking your photos, getting all excited and going "ooo! ooo! ooo!" Like a chimp does and dancing around while (obviously) making a fool of yourself.
Ferdinand
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 18:33
Chimping is like when everyone is talking about Chimping and trying to come out with what Chimping really means, kinda like a cage full of Chimps going ape over what Chimping really means. THAT is my definition and I am sticking to it :p
Human,
Ferdinand.
defordphoto
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 18:42
Chimping is like when everyone is talking about Chimping and trying to come out with what Chimping really means, kinda like a cage full of Chimps going ape over what Chimping really means. THAT is my definition and I am sticking to it :p
Human,
Ferdinand.
:D That's forum chimping! LOL! We do that every day.
Ferdinand
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 18:45
Jim, I guess we are doom than.... saying we don't Chimp is no longer valid. Chimping is what makes us photographers :D So Chimp away then my fellow primates!
OOo OOo AAAh Ooo Aah Ooo Aah,
Ferdinand
defordphoto
6th of April 2004 (Tue), 20:27
Shooting motorsports does not give you the option for chimping very often and in the hot pits it's "illegal." They'll boot you in a heartbeat if you're on the hot side of the wall and chimping.
I rarely chimp. Mainly because I've learned my equipment good enough to know 95% of the time whether I got The Shot or not. It's like a baseball pitcher who knows the very second the ball leaves the tips of his fingers whether it's a strike or not. Most of the time, though not all the time, I know whether I got the shot I was going for. If I've blown the shot, and have time, then I'll chimp to erase the bad shot(s) and then go back to shooting. Otherwise I'll deal with it later in the Media Center when I'm cleaning off my cards.
theoldmoose
7th of April 2004 (Wed), 15:15
I might point out that for the folks that have the time to review the histogram, that there is available the means to enlarge the photo by 10x or so, which makes it much easier to check for focus.
Unfortunately, the camera makers haven't figured out yet that you might want to see an enlarged portion of your image (say, around the active focus point) either as part of your automatic review cycle, or at least make it a 'one button' press to retrieve quickly. Baby steps, I suppose. A number of bodies have no way to see the histogram automatically, either, or just outright leave it out.
The more the camera works with you to give you the confirmation that you got the shot, the more useful it becomes as a tool.
I sympathize with folks like RMFSports, though, that can't take advantage of such things. It certainly requires more skill than I have to to have the confidence to not check after I've taken what I'd like to think are 'keeper' shots. This is ironic, in a way, because I shot with a manual focus SLR for years on film, and never had the instant feedback that I get with digital. On the other hand, I never had so many out-of-focus shots from the sometimes-meandering autofocus systems that seem to plague today's cameras, either. If I had wasted as many shots with an autofocus film body, I'd be displeased with the film costs, that's for sure.
Cadwell
7th of April 2004 (Wed), 15:38
According to this thread chimping means
"Checking My Pictures... it means checking your photo on the LCD immediately after taking it, to see if the composition, exposure etc. are OK."
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24631&highlight=chimp
Actually, from what I have heard, Chimp'ing means checking your photos, getting all excited and going "ooo! ooo! ooo!" Like a chimp does and dancing around while (obviously) making a fool of yourself.
I think you are partially correct, Jim. I believe full chimping requires three steps.
1. The review of the picture.
2. The "ooo! ooo! ooo!" noise.
3. Showing it to someone next to you.
;)
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