On Stage Drinking

[Greg_jpg]

Okay... So I spent a good amount of time trying to figure out where to post this photo...
I think it's "Raw Sause"... anyways lets see what you all think...

A little set up ... to the left of the girls is a big spin wheel with a bunch of stuff for them to do on it. Anyways they were trying to win Sevendust tickets I believe...

anyways ... Girl takes a shot off her friends Butt...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/431223132_578b9547d2_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregwilker/431223132/)
*edit the slightly bigger version

[kmb]

Well, it is a performance of a sort. I'm sure their parents would be proud ;)

[joegolf68]

bigger picture? I got about the same one. Two more gals headed for a nightmare presidential race in thirty years.

[DwightMcCann]

"Girls Just Gotta' Have Fun?" I am against censorship but I am for 'good taste' ... hmmm, perhaps that's a pun, sorry.

[Yella Fella]

lol at dwight

nice capture

[livewire-photography.com]

anymore? i meen everyone will agree you cant just comment on one pic, we need a variety ;) lol

[narlus]

shots of jaeger?
http://narlus.zenfolio.com/img/p118365989-4.jpg

[johnstoy]

Yes... we have reached a mutual agreement here ... we need to see more of the ladies action...

[DwightMcCann]

Yes... we have reached a mutual agreement here ... we need to see more of the ladies action...
Hey, John, aren't you a married person?

[johnstoy]

Hey, John, aren't you a married person?

Passed on a few... Just livin' the single life ...

[narlus]

Hey, John, aren't you a married person?

doesn't stop you, taygull and others here (including myself :D) from browsing the T&A (oh, i mean 'glamour') forum. :lol:

[DwightMcCann]

doesn't stop you, taygull and others here (including myself :D) from browsing the T&A (oh, i mean 'glamour') forum. :lol:
Hey, how do you know what I'm browsing? :confused: Oh, I remember ... you guys have a big telescope in town, eh?

[René Damkot]

Well, no ladie, and not exactely on stage, but still okay I think:
http://www.moonglade.net/~rene/061208Jawat/source/image/rhd_20061208jawat0199.jpg

[narlus]

Tullamore Dew?

[johnstoy]

Hey, I don't know about you guys, but it's...
sh...sh...sh..show time...

Gotta go or I'll miss my favorite spot at the venue...Later... and don't drink too much...

[narlus]

4:10? damn, is there an early bird special?

i'm still @ work...

[Greg_jpg]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/154/431732565_3efc7e29d1_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregwilker/431732565)


Some more driking on stage... however this one will make you think "Eww"

[René Damkot]

Tullamore Dew?

Yup. That's probabely why he's giving it away :lol:

[johnstoy]

4:10? damn, is there an early bird special?

i'm still @ work...

No lie, Narlus...I got to the venue at 4:45 and there was a line already... It was GA only... had to claim our spots in the pit... show started at 8PM... and I got back at 1 AM from the venue... the shows lasted close to 5 hours...and I just finished downloading 16 gigs of pics...now it's 5:33 am...will take the rest of the week to pp all this stuff...now it's time to catch some zzzz's.;)

[johnstoy]

[URL="http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregwilker/431732565"]

Some more driking on stage... however this one will make you think "Eww"

That is an awesome photo... love the reflections in the ice... Not to mention the fantastic sculpture and a fine looking lady...
Thanks for sharing...:D

[johnstoy]

Yup. That's probably why he's giving it away :lol:

What's Tullamore Dew? a new cordial or liquor?

I stopped drinking and going to bars years ago... and am not familiar with the newest brands of cordials...:rolleyes:

(Last alcohol I drank was michelob ultra light)...

[René Damkot]

Tullamore Dew (http://www.tullamoredew.com/) is Irish whiskey. Quite inexpensive, but still quite drinkable. Nothing special though.
I prefer a Scottish single malt ;) (but that's about four times the price)

[tipsy]

This seems like an appropriate thread for this photo.
It's been sitting away in my archives forgotton about for ages. Made me smile when i took it.

Trust Imogen Heap, the fluffy, friendly personality who performs bear feet on a white fluffy rug covering the entire stage, to get her stage hand to bring on a cup of good ol' english tea halfway through her set.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/adozentipsyleprachauns/332831523_691320e3b4.jpg

[Turntablist]

haaha nice picture of the "raw sauce" i agree about the comments of their parents would be proud. lol

[SBCmetroguy]

Wow, I love it! :D

By the way, I was a huge Sevendust fan 10 years ago in high school. I had no idea they were still around! Awesome!

[taygull]

doesn't stop you, taygull and others here (including myself :D) from browsing the T&A (oh, i mean 'glamour') forum. :lol:

Hey, leave me out of this!....back to the uh....glamour section for now!

[Greg_jpg]

Wow, I love it! :D

By the way, I was a huge Sevendust fan 10 years ago in high school. I had no idea they were still around! Awesome!

I might be shooting sevendust ... so cross your fingers

[matt1987]

I'm sure their parents would be proud

hahaha great comment :)

[Nick_b]

here is my contribution.... sorry no ladies :(

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/livelifelivepics/Donkey%20Punch/IMG_1210.jpg

[Greg_jpg]

Okay so an update on the two girls ... one was very nice to me on the phone and asked to have the photos of her taken off the gallery I set up for people at the club etc. I was like sure no problem. I'm a nice guy... Her friend found me on myspace and sent me a message...
"i see that my friend and my picture is also on youre myspace, you need to take these pics off both your myspace and your webpage before i take legal action"

first off she has really bad grammer for a girl ... I mean, I know, I suck but I'm a guy, I slept in english class. =D

Here is the story... Girls go to the club where there is a live stage show of crazyness every Wednesday night. I meet them early in the night and gave the my card and told them I'll be placing the photos from that night on this website. So Knowing this they end up on stage and pose for me a bunch of times and then start doing crazy stuff... all knowing that photos and video is recording them doing this...

So my question is this. What legal action can the do to me... It's in a place with over 300 people watching them on stage doing crazy stuff... so it's hardly a private matter.

I want to hear what everyone thinks... also there is a twist to this which I'll post in a day.. which makes this even more classic.

[René Damkot]

also there is a twist to this which I'll post in a day..

Let me guess: They ordered prints ;)

[DwightMcCann]

A bar is not a public place like a roadway or public building. Unless your use is editorial (you write an article for legitimate media and use the images to illustrate or what they are doing is "newsworthy") they have the right to control their images. Beyond that, if the candid images you publish defame or damage their reputations (regardless of being factually accurate) they might also recover damages having nothing to do with IP. However, for me, none of this is an issue ... I try not to publish images that do not reflect well people, period ... not for any Pollyana reason like being a "nice guy" (which I am not) but because my experience has taught me, "What goes around, comes around." I retain my contract with the casino because they can trust that I would not embarrass them or the performers and guests. And I in no way mean this to reflect on you or your images ... this is not moral advice or judgment ... IANAL ... and the images are entertaining.

[narlus]

... also there is a twist to this which I'll post in a day.. which makes this even more classic.


the next set of photos will land in the G&N forum? :twisted:

[DwightMcCann]

the next set of photos will land in the G&N forum? :twisted:
We can only hope! ;)

[Greg_jpg]

"A bar is not a public place like a roadway or public building." I have permision from the club owner to be shooting the show and the on stage action. They were preforming for the crowd to win tickets.

Here's the twist... the girls used fake/friends ID to get into the club they are 18/19 they were found out then booted from the club for life.

[DwightMcCann]

Greg, I think that is all the more reason to be circumspect in your postings. It is really not up to you to sit in moral judgment of these girls and it certainly does not give you license to use their images. To the contrary, when you know that you have captured something of potential embarrassment to someone that alone is reason enough to withhold it ... if this was your girlfriend or daughter or sister and you knew it might harm their reputation or cause them embarrassment would you show it around? Again, I don't mean to sound overly judgmental but I do want to suggest a mature and well considered perspective.

[kmb]

"A bar is not a public place like a roadway or public building." I have permision from the club owner to be shooting the show and the on stage action. They were preforming for the crowd to win tickets.

The bar owner does not have a say on whether you can *publish* pictures of particular persons (yes, putting them on the web is publishing). I persnoally have no idea whether the U.S. law prohibits it or not, though.

I'd suggest somebody here would write a legal FAQ for photographers (that is based on the law, not perceptions) for U.S. citizens as I every now and then see these questions being raised. Maybe somebody has already done this (try Google).

[kmb]

if this was your girlfriend or daughter or sister and you knew it might harm their reputation or cause them embarrassment would you show it around?

Sorry for not being particularly mature here, but it's not the photographer who's making the situation look embarrassing...

BUT I personally would have asked for their permission before publishing. The situation is clearly such that there is reason to believe the subjects do not want their image to be published, and I would have no need or desire to publish images in that case (without asking for permission).

[Titus213]

Greg, I think that is all the more reason to be circumspect in your postings. It is really not up to you to sit in moral judgment of these girls and it certainly does not give you license to use their images. To the contrary, when you know that you have captured something of potential embarrassment to someone that alone is reason enough to withhold it ... if this was your girlfriend or daughter or sister and you knew it might harm their reputation or cause them embarrassment would you show it around? Again, I don't mean to sound overly judgmental but I do want to suggest a mature and well considered perspective.

Dwight,
I've often admired your work here. I also appreciate and admire your attitude toward photography.