Problem with raw converter.

[AginKajun]

I shot a series of outside portraits on a pretty bright day. I left the white balance an auto and looking at the raw files with zoom browzer they look fairly close. The people were very fair skinned wearing black. Boy was that my mistake.
When I opened them in both Raw essentials and DPP there is a red hue to their complexion. Much more in DPP than essentials.
Any ideas as to why this change?

[tim]

Change the white balance.

[AginKajun]

Change the white balance.

I'm sorry maybe I didn't ask the question correctly. I can fix it by changing the WB or the temperature setting. My question is why does it not show up in Zoom Browzer and why is it different for the different converters. Are the converters that different when they open the file?

[tim]

Each RAW convertor looks only at the RAW file, which is read only. If you change the color temp in one program it makes a note of it somewhere, but in a format that other RAW converters can't read.

You need to read thi s book - Real World Raw CS2 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fexec%2Fobid os%2Ftg%2Fdetail%2F-%2F0321334094%3Fv%3Dglance%26tag2%3Dheadphonerevi-20&tag=headphonerevi-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325), to understand RAW. I link to more books from the thread linked in my sig.

[AginKajun]

Each RAW convertor looks only at the RAW file, which is read only. If you change the color temp in one program it makes a note of it somewhere, but in a format that other RAW converters can't read.

You need to read thi s book - Real World Raw CS2 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fexec%2Fobid os%2Ftg%2Fdetail%2F-%2F0321334094%3Fv%3Dglance%26tag2%3Dheadphonerevi-20&tag=headphonerevi-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325), to understand RAW. I link to more books from the thread linked in my sig.

Thanks. I guess that will be my next library addition. I did look last night again at the RGB Histogram and found that the reds were piled up on the right side. I think I was overexposed because of the dark backgrounds and dark clothes with these fair skined kids and that's where my red tint came from. That sound reasonable? It didn't really show up on my camera histogram when I shot it.

[In2Photos]

Which camera did you use? Did you use picture styles in DPP? This may account for the red tint in DPP but not sure about Raw Essentials as I am not familiar with that program.

[AginKajun]

Which camera did you use? Did you use picture styles in DPP? This may account for the red tint in DPP but not sure about Raw Essentials as I am not familiar with that program.

Using my 30 D and I didn't use picture styles. As I remember it was Standard. I clicked through portrait and landscape and some of the others and they really looked funky. I assumed that raw was raw and that would not be effected by picture styles until you converted it. If not I am real confused.

[In2Photos]

Using my 30 D and I didn't use picture styles. As I remember it was Standard. I clicked through portrait and landscape and some of the others and they really looked funky. I assumed that raw was raw and that would not be effected by picture styles until you converted it. If not I am real confused.
You are correct in that the file will not be altered until you apply the style in the RAW convertor. Just checking all options though.:)

[AginKajun]

You are correct in that the file will not be altered until you apply the style in the RAW convertor. Just checking all options though.:)

Whew, I thought I was going to have to start over from scratch:lol: :lol: . I already had so much information to work through before I pushed the shutter button (arms bent, smiles, feet, light, camera settings, )I'm was nervous wreck by the time I finished this shoot. Am I the only one or do you guys who do this as pros get used to the pressure. I hate charging people if I can't get it right and give them something I'd be proud of.

[davidcrebelxt]

Actually, if you apply a picture style in-camera, DPP's initial conversion will show it with that picture style. (This only happens in DPP, because only Canon's software can read the picture styles.)


As far as difference between zoombrowser and DPP, they have different processing algorithms and come up with slightly different results... but I've never noticed that much of a difference in white balance between the two.

And each converter's default settings differ from one to the next... so the initial look when you first open a RAW image in them may vary widely.

Do you have your monitor calibrated? If so, I believe you need to tell DPP where to find the calibration profile is located, you could give that a try and see if that clears up your color issues a little.

[AginKajun]

Actually, if you apply a picture style in-camera, DPP's initial conversion will show it with that picture style. (This only happens in DPP, because only Canon's software can read the picture styles.)




As far as difference between zoombrowser and DPP, they have different processing algorithms and come up with slightly different results... but I've never noticed that much of a difference in white balance between the two.

And each converter's default settings differ from one to the next... so the initial look when you first open a RAW image in them may vary widely.

Do you have your monitor calibrated? If so, I believe you need to tell DPP where to find the calibration profile is located, you could give that a try and see if that clears up your color issues a little.


Now I think I understand what is happening. My standard setting in my 30 D is my custom setting of Sharpness 5. Contast +1 Saturation +2 Color tone 0. When DPP opens it it automatically uses these settings. When RSE opens it, it doesn't recognize the settings and is giving a more neutral view or different view.

My saturation of +2 is giving me he red tones I've been fighting.

Again thanks for the help. 20 heads on a problem are always better than 1.