Night drift Practice - difficult light

[Echo63]

friday night i attended a night drift practice, with a few of the lights round the track out i had to just pick the brightest spot (1/40 f2.8 1600ISO) EV4ish on the track and shoot from there, i managed to get what i think are some pretty good shots (considering the light conditions)

let me know what you think, how can i improve them ?
i know they are very noisy, i need to get noise ninja up and running again

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Echo63/WD10.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Echo63/WD11.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Echo63/WD8.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Echo63/WD5.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Echo63/WD3.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Echo63/WD2.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Echo63/WD1.jpg

[lingham]

yeah as you said very noisy

one is a keeper if you sort the noise out

[Croasdail]

noise doesn't bother me. A bit of a tough shooting conditions though. It's odd to see the fronts locked up like they are in a couple of those. Good try at it under some very harsh conditions.

[Echo63]

noise doesn't bother me. A bit of a tough shooting conditions though. It's odd to see the fronts locked up like they are in a couple of those. Good try at it under some very harsh conditions.

the fronts arent locked up, the flash has frozen them
i tried to use as little flash as possible but needed it just to get a reasonable exposure of the cars

[black_z]

Is the headlight starburst in #2 fake? Usually don't see that when shooting 2.8!

[Croasdail]

ok... I thought there might have been flash from the shadows, but you didn't mention one so I assumed you weren't using one. the sort of explains things though. cheers.

[Echo63]

ok... I thought there might have been flash from the shadows, but you didn't mention one so I assumed you weren't using one. the sort of explains things though. cheers.
sorry for the confusion, yes i was using flash, shooting M, aperture and shutter set for ambient light and the flash set 2/3rds a stop under just to fill the shadows a little but still using lots of ambient light


Is the headlight starburst in #2 fake? Usually don't see that when shooting 2.8!
nope, the shots have been processed from a RAW file and just cropped and shrunk slightly
1's right headlight (LHS of pic),2,4very faintly and 7 have the starburst
both my sigma 70-200 and 24-70 f2.8's seem to do it especially shooting very dark subjects with bright spots, the 24-70 seems worse for it though
but as i shoot more cars than anything else it normally enhances the shots rather than detracts from them

[Scoen]

Very Nice Shots for very very complicated shooting conditions

[Echo63]

Very Nice Shots for very very complicated shooting conditions
thank you

[black_z]

but as i shoot more cars than anything else it normally enhances the shots rather than detracts from them

Yes, I'm just not used to seeing it at such wide apertures.