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martcol
14th of April 2004 (Wed), 08:25
C.Fn-06 Exposure level increments
Do You Use
I/2 Stop
1/3 Stop
Can you explain why?
Martin
Olegis
14th of April 2004 (Wed), 08:58
I use 1/3 stops increments as they give me the ability to fine tune the exposure better than 1/2 ones.
Scottes
14th of April 2004 (Wed), 09:49
Same exact answer as Olegis.
Also, I had finally memorized all the 1/2-stop apertures and needed a new challenge. :)
scottbergerphoto
14th of April 2004 (Wed), 10:44
1/3
Roger_Cavanagh
14th of April 2004 (Wed), 11:05
Ditto the previous replies - except the one about memorising the stops. I had to build a web page (http://www.rogercavanagh.com/helpinfo/40_tvav.htm) to help me.
:)
Regards,
scottbergerphoto
14th of April 2004 (Wed), 11:34
Same exact answer as Olegis.
Also, I had finally memorized all the 1/2-stop apertures and needed a new challenge. :)
Maybe you should get out more :shock:
Tapeman
14th of April 2004 (Wed), 13:25
It is the default setting on my camera.
justme_dc
14th of April 2004 (Wed), 14:40
because in this case the math works like this: 1/3 > 1/2
Three choices as opposed to two seems like a no brainer to me. Why would you want to limit yourself?
hmhm
14th of April 2004 (Wed), 14:51
I use 1/2 stops because I've finally cured myself of the delusion that the added "precision" of 1/3 stops has any useful purpose in the real world (or, at least, in _my_ world), and 1/3 stops just means more dialing.
-harry
martcol
14th of April 2004 (Wed), 14:59
Maybe a cylcling analogy? The difference between 18 & 21 gears - who cares, hills still hurt. 8)
Martin
Scottes
14th of April 2004 (Wed), 15:03
Same exact answer as Olegis.
Also, I had finally memorized all the 1/2-stop apertures and needed a new challenge. :)
Maybe you should get out more :shock:
I have a thing with numbers. In high school I used to practice by multiplying 4- and 5-digit numbers and doing square roots in my head - I could generally get it down to a 5- or 6-digit mantissa before I had to stop. If I dial a telephone number I'll remember it for a couple weeks.
It scares my wife.
Scottes
14th of April 2004 (Wed), 15:11
I use 1/2 stops because I've finally cured myself of the delusion that the added "precision" of 1/3 stops has any useful purpose in the real world (or, at least, in _my_ world), and 1/3 stops just means more dialing.
That's really a good point, especially if you use RAW. So you'll be off by 1/6th of a stop. Who'll notice?
maderito
14th of April 2004 (Wed), 17:01
I switched from 1/2 to 1/3 increments after some early experience with shooting indoor sports action using the 10D. I thought I could better maximize shutter speed within the constraints of chosen aperture and ISO. I doubt there's a noticeable difference in the resulting images, but I felt more in control, especially given the limited dynamic range of the 10D sensor.
From the 10D manual, here are the one-half and one-third shutter speed increments, which still feel odd to me:
Shutter Speed Increments
By 1/2: 10 15 20 30 45 60 90 125 180 250 350 500 750 1000
By 1/3: 10 13 15 20 25 30 40 50 60 80 100 125 160 200 250 320 400 500 640 800 1000
CyberDyneSystems
14th of April 2004 (Wed), 20:52
Sometimes that 6th of a stop will get you a slightly faster shutter spoeed in low light...
1/3 all the way
Belmondo
14th of April 2004 (Wed), 20:59
Can I change my answer?
Actually, I use 1/2 because the numbers are easier to remember, and trying to remember the unfamiliar numbers of 1/3 f/stop slows me down because I have to stop and think about it. Admittedly, this will be less of a problem as time goes by, but for now, I'm looking for fewer things to learn....not more.
Ballen Photo
14th of April 2004 (Wed), 22:44
1/3 for the same reasons above.
.......Bruce
J.A.F. Doorhof
15th of April 2004 (Thu), 00:32
1/3 because I'm a control freak I guess.
And I love the idea of making small adjustments, it has saved me a few times in bad situations.
Greetings,
Frank
martcol
15th of April 2004 (Thu), 00:56
It scares my wife.
Man, you're scarin' me too!
How about with bracketing, does it make a difference there?
Martin
Belmondo
15th of April 2004 (Thu), 06:49
I have a thing with numbers. In high school I used to practice by multiplying 4- and 5-digit numbers and doing square roots in my head - I could generally get it down to a 5- or 6-digit mantissa before I had to stop. If I dial a telephone number I'll remember it for a couple weeks.
It scares my wife.
That's quite an accomplishment.
I was once in intensive care in the hospital for several days. Because of the nature of my problem, they wouldn't sedate me, and there was no TV or radio allowed in IR. The boredom was crushing after a day or two, so I started memorizing the progression of numbers beginning with 1, then doubled, and doubled again, and so forth. I finally got up to 4294967296 before they put me in a regular room with a television. With a little reflection, I can still recite that whole series of numbers in both directions.
I agree with the United Negro College Fund.....a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
robogobo
15th of April 2004 (Thu), 17:44
It scares my wife.
Man, you're scarin' me too!
How about with bracketing, does it make a difference there?
Martin
Well, I think Bracketing is the only place that it matters... especially when shooting RAW. That lattitude of RAW files will most accurately overlap at about 2/3 stop. So I set my increments at 1/3, and bracket 2/3 over, 0, 2/3 under, OR if the difference between a handheld incident meter and the Camera meter are greater (higher contrast light), I'll bracket six or nine shots at 1/3 increments to cover my bases in post-production (layering in PS). The latter may be overkill, and may actually be a better place for 1/2 stop increments, but I 'd rather not go into the CFn menu more often than necesary, so I leave it at 1/3.
If you're not bracketing, then the theory of the 1/6 stop off in either direction holds true, and 1/2 stop means less dialing. Who really memorizes the numbers anyway? Just count clicks. Know your full stops, and you'll be in good shape (especially if you're a camera salesman; I had a calumet guy argue that 2.0-2.8 was a third stop, and I politely had him look it up for himself...ugh)
Rob
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