The worst thing on 300D compared with D70

[mariusnagy]

Actually the worst :evil: thing on 300D camera is the 4 frame buffer limit, that's on Nikon D70 is unlimited and goes on RAW images up to 20 and on jpeg no limit writing direct to the memory card no use of buffer.
If Canon could do some upgrate on memory :D or to improve the writing speed :lol: on card booth cameras will be very similar then.
That's the only thing that make me want to sell the camera.

/Marius

[karusel]

Don't be foolish. Wait a little while... Canon has more and better lens to offer. Ignore my post if you shoot with kit lens and don't want/need an L. :twisted:

[robertwgross]

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That's the only thing that make me want to sell the camera.


If you don't like the specifications on the camera, then why did you purchase it in the first place?

Some people just like to complain.

---Bob Gross---

[petiot]

why dont you just buy a D70 then or a 10D then?

[mariusnagy]

Instead of beeing root :evil: you can think that not all the people have enought budget for photo to buy what they like according with spec.

Now, I want to change it but also I fell free to say what I don't like from this camera. What is bad in that. Here Canon used a cheap trick to keep the camera below 10D.

I didn't said anything about image quality or autofocus or ... those are quite ok for me, but 4 frame buffer was a too stupid decision for Canon.

I don't change to Nikon because I belive in Canon and all my lenses are Canon, of course :lol:

[petiot]

yes ok, i have been harsh! but i find it a bit upsetting to see people being picky about features the lack of features on the 300D. I saw so many 300D users on this site who complain about the limitations of this camera and which after ask question like
"why is my photo so blurry" showing a pic taken a 1/4 sec, or who afterall buy a L lens, and they say "oh i didnt have enough money to put on higher range camera.

personnaly i have a 10D and to be honest i could do 90% of the time with a smaller buffer because i dont shoot every day some sports events or things like this. Obviously it is nice to have the extra performances when needed. but i guess if you bought the 300D you have carefully evaluated this kind of need. if you didnt ... well you will next time.

by the way nice web site ! :wink:

[minatophase3]

"why is my photo so blurry" showing a pic taken a 1/4 sec, or who afterall buy a L lens, and they say "oh i didnt have enough money to put on higher range camera.

You bring up a point I am concerned about. I will be getting either a 10D or DRebel. I will be buying L lenses, probably the 70-200 2.8L IS first. Are you implying that the L lens will exceed the capabilities of the DRebel?

From what I have read so far, the DRebel and 10D offer the same image quality, but the 10D offers greater controls, is that correct?

I appreciate your input as I am new to the DSLR's and want to make sure I buy a good setup the first time.

Tim

[Belmondo]

"why is my photo so blurry" showing a pic taken a 1/4 sec, or who afterall buy a L lens, and they say "oh i didnt have enough money to put on higher range camera.

You bring up a point I am concerned about. I will be getting either a 10D or DRebel. I will be buying L lenses, probably the 70-200 2.8L IS first. Are you implying that the L lens will exceed the capabilities of the DRebel?

From what I have read so far, the DRebel and 10D offer the same image quality, but the 10D offers greater controls, is that correct?

I appreciate your input as I am new to the DSLR's and want to make sure I buy a good setup the first time.

Tim

In the vast majority of situations, images from the Rebel and the 10D will be virtually indistinguishable from each other where identical optics are utilized.

You're worrying too much. :wink:

[minatophase3]

Thanks Tom, I have the annoying habit of researching any major purchase I make to death :) . It is exhausting but I usually end up with the type of equipment that is just right for me. :)

[Scottes]

You're worrying too much. :wink:

Yep. At least, if you're gonna worry, worry about the features that *may* make a difference, like mirror lock-up (which I doubt you'll use with that lens - it can be important to macro work).

This looks like a good article to compare the 2 cameras
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-6270-6325

[petiot]

hey dont get me wrong here. i never said that L lens on a 300D is useless and exceed the 300D capabilities. I DIDNT say that (before anyone kills me)

i am just saying that so many 300D owners complain about the lack of features of their camera which is the result of wanting to save few hundreds buck. and After that they put 1000 on a 70-200 L lens!! get yourself a 10D and buy the 70-200 f4 you will certainly enjoy the difference in feature between the 300D and the 10 D, more than the extra weight or extra stop of the 70-200 f2.8.

Dan

[minatophase3]

hey dont get me wrong here. i never said that L lens on a 300D is useless and exceed the 300D capabilities. I DIDNT say that (before anyone kills me)
Dan

Thanks for the clarification, as I said I am new to this and just want to make sure I don't make a mistake that will cost me a lot of money. I am a firm believer in buying qulaity and not skimping to save a few hundred bucks. I would much rather wait a little while and buy what I want.

I appreciate your input.

Tim

[Scottes]

get yourself a 10D and buy the 70-200 f4 you will certainly enjoy the difference in feature between the 300D and the 10 D, more than the extra weight or extra stop of the 70-200 f2.8.

A 300D or 10D will last about 3 years. A 70-200 f/2.8 IS will last a lifetime.

Don't skimp on glass, IMHO. A 70-200 f/2.8 on a 300D will more than likely get you more great images than a 70-200 f/4 and a 10D. (OK, that one's a close call, I agree.)

The 300D-to-10D feature list isn't *that* different. To me the biggies were Flash Exposure Compensation and Mirror Lock Up. I *knew* that I'd be using both quite often, so I got a 10D. But in 3 years I won't have a 10D - probably more like 2 years. But I'll have my 702-00 f/2.8 for quite a while.

[timmyquest]

"why is my photo so blurry" showing a pic taken a 1/4 sec, or who afterall buy a L lens, and they say "oh i didnt have enough money to put on higher range camera.

You bring up a point I am concerned about. I will be getting either a 10D or DRebel. I will be buying L lenses, probably the 70-200 2.8L IS first. Are you implying that the L lens will exceed the capabilities of the DRebel?

From what I have read so far, the DRebel and 10D offer the same image quality, but the 10D offers greater controls, is that correct?

I appreciate your input as I am new to the DSLR's and want to make sure I buy a good setup the first time.

Tim

I'd be willing to bet that the capabilities of the L lenses far exceed the capabilities of the digital cameras there is to offer right now. Thats why you should look at the purchase of a nice lens as a longer term investment rather then the body its self.

[Avarond]

I'd be willing to bet that the capabilities of the L lenses far exceed the capabilities of the digital cameras there is to offer right now. Thats why you should look at the purchase of a nice lens as a longer term investment rather then the body its self.

True, I think I learned really quick that the investment isnt in the body itself. Use the 300D/Drebel, Get many "good" lenses, learn from it (the camera and lenses) practice, find out what features you would like, then when money is available sell the Drebel and move up to another camera body to get the features you want or need. I definately wouldn't complain about the Drebel, the shots I have seen from it look very good.

[samdring]

A 70-200 f/2.8 on a 300D will more than likely get you more great images than a 70-200 f/4 and a 10D. (OK, that one's a close call, I agree.)

Respected your posts for a long time and glad to see that you pulled out of this one admirably - but wonder how close they are?

Most agree that optics are equal on 2.8 and the f4, so leaving aside IS and a tripod but including weight difference, I bet the reality is that usable results are equal

[karusel]

A 300D or 10D will last about 3 years. A 70-200 f/2.8 IS will last a lifetime.


A dog lifetime, if that. Lenses will be made that we don't dare dreaming of. Just take a look at the past. Sure, there's still alot of wonderful and cheap MF lens, but they are no use, as they are incompatible with 10D, 1D and the rest of the fine bunch everyone is so crazy about nowadays.

I've heard something about some funny gelatine lens, that can change it's curve when it receives a certain signal. They said it will first be used in small, or even micro still/video cameras it would give them zoom capabilities in extremely small size and without moving parts. It has begun...