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khalilok
9th of April 2007 (Mon), 17:33
i am going to buy my equipments have some choices in mind .. need your advice

Canon EOS 30D
with the kit Canon 17-85mm f/4-5.6
100-400 mm canon 4.5-5.6
EX Flash

this equipment for wedding and general

your comments please

Big Mike
9th of April 2007 (Mon), 17:40
That's a good camera but I wouldn't recommend either of those lenses...they are too slow for most wedding photography. In a zoom lens, look for something with a constant maximum aperture of F2.8.

How about the 17-55 F2.8 IS & the 70-200 F2.8 IS?

CyberPet
9th of April 2007 (Mon), 17:46
THow about the 17-55 F2.8 IS & the 70-200 F2.8 IS?

I second that!

wannasmaxx
9th of April 2007 (Mon), 17:55
I second that!
Thirded!

khalilok
9th of April 2007 (Mon), 18:30
thirded :)

sounds great ....

but that much this 100-400 is noticable slow ?

i mean i thought its slow but you will not feel it in wedding may in sport :) by the way i used 70-200 f 4 and EF 17-40mm f/4L with 20D camera

please tell me more

bigjon0107
9th of April 2007 (Mon), 18:50
thirded :)

sounds great ....

but that much this 100-400 is noticable slow ?

i mean i thought its slow but you will not feel it in wedding may in sport :) by the way i used 70-200 f 4 and EF 17-40mm f/4L with 20D camera

please tell me more


If you plan on shooting anything at night or even dusk 4.5-5.6 would be WAY to slow. But this can be even multiplied for weddings, i have heard/seen situations at F/1.4, 1/30th, Iso 1600-3200 for weddings. There is no way possible that a lens with that small of f stop would be able to peform in these situations. I vote for the 2.8 combo metioned above

-Jon

jessiper
9th of April 2007 (Mon), 21:34
If you plan on shooting anything at night or even dusk 4.5-5.6 would be WAY to slow.

Or indoors, which happens a lot. ;)

EOS MAN1
9th of April 2007 (Mon), 21:35
I would definitely look into L glass or maybe third party lenses of better quality than those listed. If you are looking for a cheap alternative to L glass in the 28-75mm range. The Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8. That lens is awseome for the price.

bigjon0107
9th of April 2007 (Mon), 23:45
Or indoors, which happens a lot. ;)

ya sorry, forgot to mention that :o

tim
10th of April 2007 (Tue), 00:51
How about the 17-55 F2.8 IS & the 70-200 F2.8 IS?

That's what I recommend in my FAQ.

kiwinvan
10th of April 2007 (Tue), 01:48
You must get 2.8. If you can't afford L series or anything with IS then go third party, but you simply must get 2.8. My vote would also be 17-55 EF-S IS and 70-200 IS.

Banbert
10th of April 2007 (Tue), 06:27
17-85 isnt good for weddings in my experience, too slow, variable aperture through the zoom = bad + I always think the shots from it look a tad "soft" .... my mate who I shoot with is just in the process of changing from this lens to the EFS 17-55 F2.8 IS which is what I also use.

sblais
10th of April 2007 (Tue), 08:19
17-85 isnt good for weddings in my experience, too slow, variable aperture through the zoom = bad + I always think the shots from it look a tad "soft" .... my mate who I shoot with is just in the process of changing from this lens to the EFS 17-55 F2.8 IS which is what I also use.

Ditto that. I've used it and I'm glad I sold it and bought the 17-55mm. Good lenses are worth the investment as they will stay with you for a long time.

And the 17-85mm is very soft from my experience. It's night and day compared to the 17-55.

Big Mike
10th of April 2007 (Tue), 11:26
I bought the 17-85mm IS in a package with a 20D (used, great deal). It's much better than the 18-55 kit lens but still not good enough for weddings. I now use the Tamron 17-50 F2.8...it's a great lens at a great price. Although, I'd prefer the 17-55 F2.8 IS.

picturecrazy
10th of April 2007 (Tue), 12:06
I used the 17-85 for a while and I actually really liked the lens. No, it's definitely not as great as the 17-55 but it's still a great piece of glass. Indoors on manual mode, you can set aperture to 5.6 and use a cheapo auto flash and the results are good and consistent. Less flexible maybe, not quite as ideal, but still capable.
But if you can spring for the 17-55 then definitely do it. Constant aperture zooms are much nicer to use. I have also heard great things about the Tamron 17-50 2.8.

khalilok
10th of April 2007 (Tue), 19:39
thanks guys ...
wow
its really good to ask ..
someone told me before dont think in the 3rd party lenses .. but its good prices and here you are advcing the Tamron 17-50 2.8, the price will help me for sure