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DReb-MO
22nd of April 2004 (Thu), 05:41
First time poster... :oops:
I have a relatively straight forward question and am looking for some opinions to help me find an answer.
I have a DReb with the kit lens. Not a bad lens. Picked up the 50/1.8 II primarily for indoor use for family photos and because it was ChEaP. Also purchased the 75-300 IS lens for shooting my kids at sporting events, soccer, baseball etc. Really like the IS feature. The lens I am on the fence about is the 28-135 IS. I like the IS feature so much on the other that I thought I might want it on this wider lens to replace the kit lens. I figure it will give me a better and more flexible lens then the kit lens and essentially I would use this as my "walk-around"lens. I realize they are not really comparable but wondered if I was wasting my cash to fill a small gap. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
WestFalcon
22nd of April 2004 (Thu), 05:55
The 28-135 is a great all purpose lens...go for it.
PacAce
22nd of April 2004 (Thu), 06:37
Yes, definitely get the 28-135 IS.
And, it may be a little too late now, but if I were in your shoes, I would have opted for the 70-200 f/4L instead of the 75-300 IS as your sports lens. IMHO, the 70-200 f/4L coupled with the 280-135IS and the kit lens would cover most of your shooting needs and you'd end up with better images.
chris.bailey
22nd of April 2004 (Thu), 06:49
the 28-135 is one of the non L greats, plenty of threads about it here, it has been talked about nearly as much as the 50mm 1.4 and 1.8
Belmondo
22nd of April 2004 (Thu), 07:14
I can add nothing to the above. This was the first lens I bought for my 10D, and it served me very well. I eventually replaced it with L glass, and finally sold it. Ironically, I've found that I miss it on occasion for just the purpose you have in mind...a 'walking around' lens. It's ideal.
chris.bailey
22nd of April 2004 (Thu), 07:20
the 28-135 is one of the non L greats, plenty of threads about it here, it has been talked about nearly as much as the 50mm 1.4 and 1.8
Belmondo
22nd of April 2004 (Thu), 07:25
the 28-135 is one of the non L greats, plenty of threads about it here, it has been talked about nearly as much as the 50mm 1.4 and 1.8
That's right, Chris.
Anything really worth saying, is worth saying twice. :wink:
Ergo
I can add nothing to the above. This was the first lens I bought for my 10D, and it served me very well. I eventually replaced it with L glass, and finally sold it. Ironically, I've found that I miss it on occasion for just the purpose you have in mind...a 'walking around' lens. It's ideal.
Loekito
22nd of April 2004 (Thu), 07:29
Hi DReb-MO, I Also plan to buy 75-300 IS USM lens, for my third lens after the kit (EF-S 18-55) and 100mm Macro USM.
I know that the price between 75-300 IS and 70-200L is not so big difference. But the problem, 70-200L don't have any IS in it, and it will make me stuck on the tripod in regards to get good-sharp picture.
From your experience, do you satisfy with what 75-300 IS USM can give you so far?
I think 28-135 IS will be the best choice for you for your next lens :wink:
regards,
Loekito
mikekiwi
22nd of April 2004 (Thu), 08:22
Yeah, take the 28-135, but not to replace the kitlens but as an extra. Use the 28-135 as your standard lens, but keep the kitlens for the wide-angle shots!
DReb-MO
22nd of April 2004 (Thu), 08:42
Hi DReb-MO,
From your experience, do you satisfy with what 75-300 IS USM can give you so far?
I think 28-135 IS will be the best choice for you for your next lens :wink:
regards,
Loekito
Part of the reason I made the move to the DReb was the inability to consistantly take sports pics and have a crisp result with the Dimage 7Hi I had prior to the Canon. Many many blurry shots. To date I have been very happy with the performance of the 75-300 IS lens even at the full focal length. Thanks for the thoughts on my question.
DReb-MO
22nd of April 2004 (Thu), 09:28
Thanks for all the comments. Placed my order with B&H this morning and will have it when I arrive home on Friday. This, along with the other lens' mentioned should hold me over for some time. Glad I stumbled :D into this forum. BTW, I also purchased a muv02 for the microdrive and it works like a charm in the DReb. Slower then the CF cards I have but with a vacation soon to Alaska I was looking for all the storage I could get.
Lamplight
22nd of April 2004 (Thu), 10:47
I also have the 75-300, and I've noticed that it seems to yield better results than the kit lens. Yes, I know they are completely different, but I can instantly recognize which lens was used when I look at one of my pictures. :) Thanks to you guys, and I may once again spend what little money I have on another lens. :D The 28-135 IS sounds like a good choice.
timmyquest
22nd of April 2004 (Thu), 11:43
And now, in the digital SLR age, we can do post-processing inside the digital darkroom software, so if someone says, "you can get more sharp image if you using L-lens", just apply unsharp mask. or if someone says "you can get more outstanding color using L-lens", just increase the satruration. right?
Yes and no...the more you do to a shot the less natural it becomes.
I quickly found this out with my 50mm f/1.8. I can apply an insane amount of unsharp mask to the photo and honestly see very little difference, when applied to a photo taken with a much softer lens the image just looks fake.
Yes the digital dark room is a fantastic tool, but it is no replacement for a camera/lens that takes a great shot to begin with.
robertwgross
22nd of April 2004 (Thu), 12:27
Yes the digital dark room is a fantastic tool, but it is no replacement for a camera/lens that takes a great shot to begin with.
I've worked in the digital dark room a lot, but my safe light has been burned out for a long time.
---Bob Gross---
Tom W
22nd of April 2004 (Thu), 19:15
The 28-135 IS is a very good lens. You'll find a lot of folks here have and use it extensively.
If your budget is smaller, the 28-105 f/3.5-4.5 is a very good lens as well (watch out NOT to get the other 28-105 - it really is a pretty soft lens and lacks the USM focus system). On the 10D or the 300D/DigiReb, you may also consider the 24-85 f/3.5-4.5 USM. Its good and you'd be surprised at how useful that extra 4 mm on the wide end can be.
Also, I like mushrooms, and eat them often. :)
egress123
23rd of April 2004 (Fri), 08:15
Well, since I am having a somewhat similar issue, I would like to ask a question to you guys..
I purchased DRebel a couple weeks ago, and am very happy with its performance. Next friday, my wife is graduating and I would like to get descent lenses for my camera. Since my budget is very tight, I was going to go with 50/1.8 II lens and 75-300 USM IS. However, I cannnot find 50/1.8 II lens anywhere!! it's either sold out or back ordered. So my next option was going with 28-135 IS, which is similar to my budget for the previous two lenses. so here is my question. Which combination will be better? 50/1.8 with 75-300 IS, or just one 28/135 IS lens? or is there any other combinations of lens that are under 400 and would yield a good result for my purpose? I assume the graduation would take indoor and I would need to zoom a lot in order to capture her since I would not be allowed to enter into the ceremony area.
I lied, I have a couple more questions. I know there is a non IS version for 75-300 lens. How well does IS perform with full zoom? will it be as good as non IS 75-300 with a tripod? or would the tripod option yield a better result? And do you guys know any shop that has 50/1.8 lens I can order right away?
thanks in advance!
Lamplight
23rd of April 2004 (Fri), 08:25
I lied, I have a couple more questions. I know there is a non IS version for 75-300 lens. How well does IS perform with full zoom? will it be as good as non IS 75-300 with a tripod? or would the tripod option yield a better result?
I actually own the non-IS version. If you'll be shooting indoors I would probably use a tripod. I've found that it can difficult to take a clear shot at full zoom even on a bright day outdoors. Might as well take the tripod just in case. :)
egress123
23rd of April 2004 (Fri), 08:54
I lied, I have a couple more questions. I know there is a non IS version for 75-300 lens. How well does IS perform with full zoom? will it be as good as non IS 75-300 with a tripod? or would the tripod option yield a better result?
I actually own the non-IS version. If you'll be shooting indoors I would probably use a tripod. I've found that it can difficult to take a clear shot at full zoom even on a bright day outdoors. Might as well take the tripod just in case. :)
Thanks for your answer. I guess I am going to pick up a tripod eventually. I think I didn't mention that I was a total newbie. (well, still I am). with that in mind, would you recommend me a descent tripod? what brand is usually well constructed and lasts long? which feature should I look for when I purchase one? :)
CyberDyneSystems
23rd of April 2004 (Fri), 09:00
I Like the Bogen/Manfrotto tripods quite a lot.
The aluminum models are a lot less expensive than the high end graphite models,. and they weigh just a small fraction more.
Take a close look at the 3001pro and 3021pro.. they both have some very very flexible features for about $100.00.
I've got the smaller of the two, the 3001pro, and find it to be more than adequate for all my shooting except for when I use the 500mm prime on a heavy gimble head. (it would work.. but here a heavier tripod is helpfull)
That said,. rather than replace the "perfect" 3001pro with a beast.. I keep it and use it for evrything BUT the 500mm.. which gets it's own tripod.
The point being that no matter how large you end up scaling your lenses and gear,. you will allways have use for a tripod like the 3001pro. :wink:
CyberDyneSystems
23rd of April 2004 (Fri), 14:17
TOPIC SPLIT
The ensuing debate that began in this thread has been split from the original topic.
If anyone feels they have more to add on the issue of the "sillyness" please do so in the linked thread here;
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=194974#194974
Please reserve this thread for responses to questions of a photographic nature :wink:
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