Got 80 grand burning a hole in your pocket?

[Laziferous]

http://www.dvinfo.net/canon/images/images17.php

Simply amazing. That just blows my mind :shock:

[PacAce]

That's the baby I'm going to buy when I retire and sell my house! :shock:

NOT! :D

If I did, I'd probably end up with a kingsize hernia and live in agony the rest of my retired life. :mrgreen:

[cmM]

http://www.dvinfo.net/canon/images/eos1200b.jpg
:roll: hmmmmm..... poor tripod.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Somebody find that guy a better Tripod!

Or better yet.. some pack animals.. Liek Gitzo!

(maybe too heavy for Gitzo.. :? he'll need the help of his Gay Latin cousine,. "ManFrotto" ) :mrgreen:

That lens is crazy!

[IndyJeff]

LOL I asked Brian about that baby last year at the Indy 500 and he said it was definately a handfull.

http://www.dvinfo.net/canon/images/eos1200g.jpg


Funny tho when I asked about using it for a day on the loaner program, he just kind of looked at me like I was nuts.


On second thought, I would just take one of those boxes behind him instead.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Oy... hadn't noticed the boxes! :shock: :shock: :shock:

500mm AND 600mm 8) 8)

[evilenglishman]

the most frightening thing is that he used it on that crappy "home" video camera. What a waste!!!! :roll:

[defordphoto]

Oy... hadn't noticed the boxes! :shock: :shock: :shock:

500mm AND 600mm 8) 8)

Yeah! That is what I was looking at too! Snag me a few of those boxes and I'm set for life! :)

[PacAce]

the most frightening thing is that he used it on that crappy "home" video camera. What a waste!!!! :roll:

I wouldn't call the XL1 a crappy home video camera. That thing costs over US$2700.00 just for the body alone. Throw in a lens and a color viewfinder and we're talking over US$4700.00. :shock:

This thing is the 1D of the video world!

[GenEOS]

Just give me one of the boxes!!!!!!!!

[evilenglishman]

This thing is the 1D of the video world!


Sorry, but no it isn't.
The lens is a professional lens, the camera is not a professional camera.
The price doesn't mean its a pro camera as for it being the 1D, c'mon!
Try a Sony 3CCD DVCAM camera - that is the 1Ds and this is a point and shoot

[IndyJeff]

Just give me one of the boxes!!!!!!!!
Oy... hadn't noticed the boxes!

500mm AND 600mm


Alright, you guys, I saw em first!!!!!


I know I am stingey,.......ok I will let you have ONE box but you two will have to share!!! LOL

[IanD]

Hell of a duck butt lens. From accross the lake you could see what the duck had for supper for the past 3 weeks. :lol:
Would need Gitzo, cousin Manfrotto and uncle Slik to lug that puppy around.

[PacAce]

This thing is the 1D of the video world!


Sorry, but no it isn't.
The lens is a professional lens, the camera is not a professional camera.
The price doesn't mean its a pro camera as for it being the 1D, c'mon!
Try a Sony 3CCD DVCAM camera - that is the 1Ds and this is a point and shoot

OK, I was refering to the Canon lineup of the camcorders. After all, you can't mount an L lens on any sony camcorder, can you. Besides, it's still not a crappy home video camera. It's got a white body for heaven's sakes...to match the white L lens! :mrgreen: :lol:

[evilenglishman]

After all, you can't mount an L lens on any sony camcorder, can you.

it isnt necessary to mount an L lens on a sony cmaera :D
I was just checking my old sony and it has an F1.6 12X zoom built in as well as a x0.7 wide converter.

It was a great marketing idea by Canon to make a camcorder that used their lenses, you have to give them a lot of credit for that. But I don't know any pro video people that use canon gear. Canon should persue this path more I think.

[PacAce]

After all, you can't mount an L lens on any sony camcorder, can you.

it isnt necessary to mount an L lens on a sony cmaera :D
I was just checking my old sony and it has an F1.6 12X zoom built in as well as a x0.7 wide converter.

It was a great marketing idea by Canon to make a camcorder that used their lenses, you have to give them a lot of credit for that. But I don't know any pro video people that use canon gear. Canon should persue this path more I think.

I guess it would depend on how you define "pro video people" or how many "pro video people" you know. After all, not all pro photographers use Hasselblads, do they? As a matter of fact, I'm suire there are a lot of pro photographers that are still using the "consumer" D60 or the 10D instead of the "real" pro cameras like the 1D and the 1Ds. :roll:

I'll terminate my end of this discussion by say, "It's not the equipment that makes a "pro" a professional. :)

[Andy_T]

I might throw in that you can use Canon lenses on professional video cameras that have a 'C' mount using the corresponding adapters.

I assume that would include what you refer to as 'pro' video cameras.

Best regards,
Andy

[CyberDyneSystems]

Since were talking abou thtis lens again,.. I Just thought I'd drag up this old thread because something in it has allways bothered me.

For the record,. I work in a professional performing arts venue,. a concert hall that seats 2,200..

As one might expect,. I work with a number of Professional videographers..

In the ten years I have worked in this line of business,. by far and away the most used cameras are the Canon XL series,. just last wek we had a four camera set up going with four XL cameras of various vintage from the 1, 1S nd 2.

I'd say an easy 90% of the pro video set ups that have been in my theatre over the past ten years used Canon XL cameras. All used by professional videographers.

[Andy_T]

So ... what lenses where they using?

I found the mention of the 7x crop factor interesting... so a 70-200/2.8 L should be all you need to get pretty close to a performance, right?

Best regards,
Andy

[lost]

Ok guys did anyone else see that the dumped a 2x converter on that thing. OMFG, that made it a 17280mm Lens. Good for exploring the galaxy. To hell with the Hubbel Telescope, we have a Canon!!!!

[Belmondo]

On second thought, I would just take one of those boxes behind him instead.

Jeff:
I have just such a box here. I would consider selling it, along with the styrafoam blocks that came in it. Make me an offer.

[dewmuw]

I actually have used one of these lenses and you know what - I pointed it out into space and I could see the back of my own head!


(Followers of Einstein's theories will get the joke)

[pradeep1]

I'd be scared taking that thing around any place with a lot of people or a war zone. You might get shot by someone thinking you are using a bazooka or a rocket launcher.

[CoolToolGuy]

Since were talking abou thtis lens again,.. I Just thought I'd drag up this old thread because something in it has allways bothered me. . .


Geez, you had me going for a minute there - when I saw the thread I thought Laziferous was passing through again!

Have Fun,

[Longwatcher]

Jeff:
I have just such a box here. I would consider selling it, along with the styrafoam blocks that came in it. Make me an offer.

If you still have it next Christmas and Jeff doesn't want it, maybe I can pick it up from you to frighten the girlfriend with, she already things I spend too much money on camera stuff. That way maybe you will let me buy lunch next time. to pay for the box.

[Longwatcher]

As to XL-1 and 2, a lot of documentarians use that camera series to produce professional broadcasts. In case you were not aware it is a 3 CCD camera with actually higher resolution per CCD then the equivelant Sony camcorder that came out at same time.

When I was looking for a camcorder, the real choice was XL-1 or Panasonic DV300? Neither of which completely met my needs.

Just about the time I was going to give up, the XL-2 came out. Got one, takes great video in low light. Also, has 16x9 and film (24fps) modes, when I want to play with that.

And I can use my Canon lenses on it if I want, although even my 16-35 is a telephoto on that thing.

And although it may not count as a studio camera for Major TV Network purposes, it serves many lower budget studios in producing TV and movie quality programming. I know because I have seen the XL-1 in action several times, most notably by both Playboy channel and the reality TV program "blind date" when I was at Hedo III in 2003. Never seen a Sony video cam that cost under 20,000US used for that. And my friend who does video camera and lighting work for commercials and TV programs uses a Panasonic camera with apparently some Canon lenses on it ($35k camera) for that stuff.

So please don't knock my XL-2, it is a very good camcorder for the price.

[CyberDyneSystems]

I would just love to have one of those XL's attached to a 500mm ;)
Imagine the "birds eye view" for wildlife documentary....

[CanonUser]

it isnt necessary to mount an L lens on a sony cmaera :D
I was just checking my old sony and it has an F1.6 12X zoom built in as well as a x0.7 wide converter.

It was a great marketing idea by Canon to make a camcorder that used their lenses, you have to give them a lot of credit for that. But I don't know any pro video people that use canon gear. Canon should persue this path more I think.
I do wedding photography/videography for a living. I also assist a "Digital Video Production" class at a local college. Like CDS said, the XL serie is one of the most popular camcorder used by special events/documentary pros. There were even some movies made with this camera, such as Steven Soderbergh's "Solaris" (starred George Clooney) and the international hit "28 Days". I personally know at least 2 documentaries shot with XL camera were aired by PBS. The XL camera IS a 3CCD model comparable to Sony VX and PD cameras. The Sony cameras have FIXED lens on them! If you are talking about the truly professional cameras of the broadcasting world, it's another level, in term of both level and price.
Follow this link to see some real professional's opinions about this "crappy" camera:
http://www.global-dvc.org/html/framemode.asp

[CyberDyneSystems]

So ... what lenses where they using?

I found the mention of the 7x crop factor interesting... so a 70-200/2.8 L should be all you need to get pretty close to a performance, right?

Best regards,
Andy

They tend to use the stock lens,. (which is quite impressive on it's own.. looking for all the world like a smaller 100-400mm that rotates to zoom...)

..but there is an alternate wide angle that one of the four cameras had in this last event.

[Steve Parr]

If I'm droppin' that kinda' scratch, it damn well better have IS.

And, if I did buy it, then I'd have to be concerned with whether or not it would work on my 300D...

Steve

[TammieO]

And to think I was only dreaming about the Canon 600mm.

[Belmondo]

I think it's safe to say that this is not going to be offered as an EF-S lens, so it should work on everything. On the other hand, if they did make it in the EF-S mount, maybe they could gete the price down to around $50K. They'd sell a bunch at that price (not).

[who me?]

You guys can keep the boxes.... I want what is INSIDE of them...I won't be picky, one lens will be enough for me.
ANyone know how large the front element is? It looks to be about 8" in diameter....

[gastroboy]

617 times zoom.....maybe if you stack extenders on it you could see outside the galaxy....

then we can get paparazzi alien shots!

[Patrick 10D]

Regarding the EF 1200:

I will wait until the IS version is released. :D

[Andy_T]

There was a 1200 IS version planned.

However, they quickly realized that the 5 kw engine necessary to drive the IS would drain the batteries of the camera really fast :lol:

Best regards,
Andy

[CyberDyneSystems]

Actually the prototype was made,.. but the results of those first tests seem to have set the project back a little...

As the gyro spun up.. it caused the lens body to violently spin,. sheering the 3/8ths threaded mount on the tripod clean off,... and breaking the wrists of the photographer trying to hold it steady.

It proceeded to continue to roll across the floor of the test lab at approx 35 MPH eventually driving into the shins of another Canon lab worker..

The lab worker was standing next to a plate glass window.. and the force of the blow sent him through the window...

The Lab was on the fifth of the Canon Optics building..

Dreadfull business.. :(

When he landed,. it was onto the roof of a convertible pulling into the underground parking lot below... killed the driver outright,.

His foot apperently pressed onto the accellerator.. and the convertible drove headlong into the parking lot,. through a barrier,.. took out a few maintenance men on the way.. finally ending up in the sub-basement boiler room of the Canon Lab facitility.

This of course caused the Boilers to explode.. taking out the entire 1st and second floor in the resulting explosion!


Well,.. you can imagine what that did to the 3rd - 5th floors....


So all told 78 dead and 358 wounded and the entire Canon lens labratory were taken out in a flash of the 1200mm's IS gyro....


Canon decided at that point to discontinue design research on the IS version.


:rolleyes:

[Huckaback Photo]

Who Me?
wanted to know how big the front element was ?
well the front lens cap is.....228mm.
also the weight is.........36.4 lbs.

Just checked a couple of UK shops that list the price and noted a small variation ???
in the order of £30,000 difference.
Mifsuds in Devon....£60,000
Walters Photo Video ....£89,999

So if you anyone wants a bargain you know where to go.

Martin (Huckaback Photo)

[Belmondo]

Actually the prototype was made,.. but the results of those first tests seem to have set the project back a little...

As the gyro spun up.. it caused the lens body to violently spin,. sheering the 3/8ths threaded mount on the tripod clean off,... and breaking the wrists of the photographer trying to hold it steady.

It proceeded to continue to roll across the floor of the test lab at approx 35 MPH eventually driving into the shins of another Canon lab worker..

The lab worker was standing next to a plate glass window.. and the force of the blow sent him through the window...

The Lab was on the fifth of the Canon Optics building..

Dreadfull business.. :(

When he landed,. it was onto the roof of a convertible pulling into the underground parking lot below... killed the driver outright,.

His foot apperently pressed onto the accellerator.. and the convertible drove headlong into the parking lot,. through a barrier,.. took out a few maintenance men on the way.. finally ending up in the sub-basement boiler room of the Canon Lab facitility.

This of course caused the Boilers to explode.. taking out the entire 1st and second floor in the resulting explosion!


Well,.. you can imagine what that did to the 3rd - 5th floors....


So all told 78 dead and 358 wounded and the entire Canon lens labratory were taken out in a flash of the 1200mm's IS gyro....


Canon decided at that point to discontinue design research on the IS version.


:rolleyes:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Some people have waaaaay too much time on their hands.

I would expect that an IS gyro in the 1200mm lens would have to be roughly equal to the inertial guidance system on an ocean-going super tanker, so maybe this story has some basis in fact. They do seem to have had a rash of earthquakes in Japan recently. Who knows?

[RbrtPtikLeoSeny]

Holy ****! I love seeing 5 digets before the mm!!!!!! :)!!!!!!!!! Who in the hell would ever want 17,000+mm lenses though...... omg........ astrophotography would be like, all it's good for! 80,000 dollars too........ Man, unless your making a few mill a year that is so not worth it, and only 10 in the world? I'm actually surprised there aren't more. Thanks for sharing this. This is crazy cool!

[PhotosGuy]

Great story.
Years ago I had the 600mm f/5.6 Nikkor for (only) a couple of grand. Sure wish I still had it now!

[CyberDyneSystems]

Classic big sun telephoto compression shot! ;)

I've got one of those taken with the Sigma 500mm...
No Balloon though :(

http://cyberdynesystemsimaging.fotopic.net/p4683328.html

[PhotosGuy]

No Balloon though Birds, bees & balloons - it's really hard to direct them! ;-)

[Wazza]

Good one CDS. You had me , until I read the first line. :rolleyes: :p

Wouldn't everyone just buy one of the 10 if you won the lotto, just for the sake of saying you own one. It would be cheaper to buy a telescope.

My family's Meade LX200 10" does a decent enough job of viewing space.

http://wazz*****scity.com/temp/meade.jpg
http://wazz*****scity.com/temp/meade2.jpg

And some examples, shot 2 years ago with my grandads Nikon E995

http://wazz*****scity.com/temp/moon2.jpg
http://wazz*****scity.com/temp/moon3.jpg

Now it's time to make a mount for my 20D, or just go and spend the couple of hundred on a proper one.

[Anders Östberg]

Hehe. That's one of the lenses I can honestly say I *don't* want. :)

[CyberDyneSystems]

Wazza! Good God Man.. and you mean to tell me you don't have an adapter for your 20D to mount to that monster!?

[Wazza]

Wazza! Good God Man.. and you mean to tell me you don't have an adapter for your 20D to mount to that monster!?

Uh, not just yet.

Apparently I can buy a t-mount for US$12, and maybe make it fit after some alterations on the lathe. Also the weather has been pretty crap for star gazing lately. The cooler winter nights are approaching, as long as we can have clear, cloudless nights, I'll see what I can do with the 20D. :)

[DocFrankenstein]

I'm curious as to what tripod he uses.