Phil Posts a full size Mark II test shot of Big Ben

[GenEOS]

http://www.dpreview.com/temp_img/GR2O0135.JPG

"2.9 MB. In-camera sharpening level 2, 28-70 mm F2.8 L. "

I am not worried about the sharpness issue after reading what he said in his thread.

I think I will be pleased.

I previewed this shot on my dual monitor dell system at work. I had to bump it down to 40% to fit it across both monitors!!

This is making me so impatient.....

[defordphoto]

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[CyberDyneSystems]

What thread GenEOS?

You aren't expecting us lightweights to have the minerals it takes to wade through the swamp that is the "DPreview forums" are you? :mrgreen:

[evilenglishman]

that photo looks really distorted? is it the lens or the camera?

[Pekka]

that photo looks really distorted? is it the lens or the camera?

More of a perspective error, and may be some lens error, too.

[garethhhhh]

that photo looks really distorted? is it the lens or the camera?

The camera was perfectly level because the water is perfectly horizontal.
However, Big Ben appears to be leaning. FVU says that it was shot with the 28-70mm at 55mm. strange... :?

[evilenglishman]

that photo looks really distorted? is it the lens or the camera?

The camera was perfectly level because the water is perfectly horizontal.
However, Big Ben appears to be leaning. FVU says that it was shot with the 28-70mm at 55mm. strange... :?

thats what i thought. Look at the building at the very far left edge it has a definate inwards slope

[CyberDyneSystems]

.... you get inward slope when you shoot tall buildings.. assuming they are taller than you are ... :?:

Why is it strange.. ?

This why we have TS lenses and perepctive tools in PS :)

[evilenglishman]

.... you get inward slope when you shoot tall buildings.. assuming they are taller than you are ... :?:


even at eye level?

[Pekka]

.... you get inward slope when you shoot tall buildings.. assuming they are taller than you are ... :?:


even at eye level?

That is how the perspetive works. The camera is on level horizontally, but Phil was not 15m high in the air which is about the middle level of the building.

[evilenglishman]

yes i can appricate the point on perspective - but he must have been at least 300 meters away as he has shot this from the other side of the river.
I've seen similar shots in the past that weren't as distorted as this is.

[PhotosGuy]

The camera was perfectly level because the water is perfectly horizontal.

Well, I have to disagree on that point. The camera had to be pointing slightly up, and I think if you ask him, he'll confirm that.

evilenglishman is correct that "...I've seen similar shots in the past that weren't as distorted as this is."

Ways to eliminate distortion:
Keep the 'film' plane parallel to the subject.
Use a perspective control lens
Use a view camera with swings & tilts.
Process in P$hop.
Tilt the base of the enlarger in the darkroom.

The pic does make you salivate, doesn't it?

[Tom W]

...
Ways to eliminate distortion:
Keep the 'film' plane parallel to the subject.
Use a perspective control lens
Use a view camera with swings & tilts.
Process in P$hop.
Tilt the base of the enlarger in the darkroom.

The pic does make you salivate, doesn't it?

Yep - the perspective distortion seen is caused by the film plane not being parallel with the plane of the subject.

I might add that Photoshop Elements 2.0 also has perspective adjustments, though I'd guess that the feature is probably more robust in "real" photoshop.

[samdring]

Hate to spoil your discussion but smart a**** here thinks Big Ben is the 9 foot diameter, 13 ton bell!

[martcol]

The colour, contrast, exposure and level of detail in that photograph are just fabulous.

Martin

[GenEOS]

Sorry Sam...Meant no disrespect by mis identification...I had Mark II on my brain.

[CyberDyneSystems]

...pretty sure thats Big Ben... :)

Even though the name was orginally coined for the bell itself,. it is the tower in the Palace at Westminster that has been effectionately referred to as "Big Ben" since the mid 1800's

[defordphoto]

...pretty sure thats Big Ben... :)

Even though the name was orginally coined for the bell itself,. it is the tower in the Palace at Westminster that has been effectionately referred to as "Big Ben" since the mid 1800's

I thought Big Ben was the big freaking clock that has the big freaking bell. But, we're pixel-peeping here. That is one big freaking building whether it be Ben, George, John or Paul. :)

[evilenglishman]

Possibly the most famous clock face and chimes in the world the building is officially known as St Stephen's Tower, but which is more commonly referred to as Big Ben. "Big Ben" is actually the name of the largest bell inside the clock tower, which forms part of the Houses of Parliament. It is thought that the name comes from Sir Benjamin Hall who was commissioner of works when the bell was first installed in 1858. The accuracy of the clock movement is controlled by the placing of old pennies in the mechanism.

The Houses of Parliament (Palace of Westminster) Officially this dramatic neo-gothic building is called the Palace of Westminster, but is better known throughout the world as the Houses of Parliament. The building that you see on the bank of the Thames actually only dates from the 1840's - it was designed by Charles Barry and Augustin Pugin after most of the first Houses of Parliament burnt down in 1834.

The history of the original site dates back much further. Edward the Confessor built the Palace of Westminster on the site in 1049 and the first Parliament was held there in 1275. Westminster then became the permanent home of Parliament after Henry VIII (1491 - 1547) chose to live in Whitehall in 1532.

Today the British Government is made up of the Monarch, the House of Lords and the House of Commons, both houses meet at the Houses of Parliament. The Houses of Parliament divide principally into two debating Chambers. The House of Commons comprises Members of Parliament (MP's) who are the elected representatives of the British people. Their functions are legislation and (as opposition) government scrutiny. The non-elected House of Lords is an apolitical body of the great and good, who examine proposed legislation from the House of Commons and also act as the highest Appeal Court in the Land.

Look to the tower above Big Ben on the picture to see if the House of Commons or House of Lords are in session; a flag by day and a light by night above the tower of Big Ben are the signals that the politicians are present in their debating chambers. <--if thats not an advert for terrorists i dont know what is

[Tom W]

...pretty sure thats Big Ben... :)

Even though the name was orginally coined for the bell itself,. it is the tower in the Palace at Westminster that has been effectionately referred to as "Big Ben" since the mid 1800's

I thought Big Ben was the big freaking clock that has the big freaking bell. But, we're pixel-peeping here. That is one big freaking building whether it be Ben, George, John or Paul. :)

Maybe its Big Ringo. ;)

[Jyoti]

Maybe its Big Ringo. ;)

Naaah - that's what we Limeys call the M25...

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