Image number. D-Rebel owners please read

[Conk]

I just noticed in my folder of D-Rebel photos that they are named as IMG_5023 and so on. My camera is 1 week old. Is this the count on how many photos my camera has taken? How can I find out the exact amount that it has taken?

[Chazs]

My guess is that is how many digital pictures your flash card has had on it, but I'm not sure. I've used the same few flash cards the past few years on my Canon S30 and S40, which has been about 3000 pictures. I too just purchased a DRebel a week ago, and after reformatting the card in the DRebel, the numbering scheme continued where it left off with my S40. May be something similar in your situation.

[Belmondo]

That's very likely what happened. I had two 10Ds, and I was pretty sloppy about mixing CF cards between the two of them. All of a suuden, the newer body had almost exactly the same number of shots showing as the older more often-used body.

I'm sure Canon has a way of telling how many shots have been taken, but I'm also willing to bet that the process is proprietary.

[Conk]

The card was new with the camera and as we all know, they are sealed in plastic in those child proof packages. This is really starting to bug me. I'll be a little upset to find that my new camera was sold to me with over 5000 photos already taken.

[petrus]

I had the same experience with my 300D, but the starting number was something around 700. The CF card was previously used in a D7i. I really examined the camera, but never found any trace of it having been in use before.... but I cannot be sure!

[AzzKicker]

well something is up and I would be concerned, because I bought my 300D brand new and with a brand new 256mb CF card. And the numbers started at IMG_001.jpg

[Roger_Cavanagh]

Almost certainly the reading on your new camera is the result of testing with a card that has been used in other cameras. There is no way for 10D owners to find out the number of shutter actuations; I would guess the 300DRebel is the same. Canon service technicians have software that will tell them this statistic, but whether they would tell users...

Regards,

[Conk]

Thanks for the replies. I have just returned from the dealer where I bought the camera. I first showed the salesman the image number from the camera then formatted the card and took another photo. The image count went from 3028 to 5029. I reformatted the card and then inserted it into another brand new Rebel right from the box and took a photo. The image count went to 5030.

Canon sent me this e-mail.

The first image file may not always be IMG_001. Depending on how the
card and camera have been used, there may be a different first file
number. The images you take are automatically
assigned a file number from 0001 to 9999 and saved in a folder that can
hold up to 100 images. The folders are numbered from 100 to 999 and
saved in the CF card. There will be some variation in the file numbering
sequence if the CF card is removed and reinserted, or formatted.

I'm sorry, but the EOS Digital Rebel does not have a frame counter that
tells you exactly how many pictures have been taken with the unit. The
file numbering sequence on the card is not an indication of exactly how
many pictures the camera has ever taken. If you are concerned that your
camera was returned or was used as a demo model, we suggest that you
contact the dealer from whom the unit was purchased for more
information.

[ron chappel]

Um hangon....
I thought one just sets the camera to 'file numbering-continuous' in the camera menu and one can tell exactly how many shots have been taken....? :?:

[Goofup]

I'm wondering what happens after #9999 is taken. Does it start all over again?

[AzzKicker]

Um hangon....
I thought one just sets the camera to 'file numbering-continuous' in the camera menu and one can tell exactly how many shots have been taken....? :?:


I was under that same impression, I never noticed a change when switching CF cards. That seems kinda of dumb. All the camera has to remember is the last pic taken, then the continuous setting overwrites it everytime a new pic is taken.

I dont see why in the hell a Manufacturer design it where the CF card holds the numbers. Seems stupid to me.

[Roger_Cavanagh]

Um hangon....
I thought one just sets the camera to 'file numbering-continuous' in the camera menu and one can tell exactly how many shots have been taken....? :?:


I was under that same impression, I never noticed a change when switching CF cards. That seems kinda of dumb. All the camera has to remember is the last pic taken, then the continuous setting overwrites it everytime a new pic is taken.

I dont see why in the hell a Manufacturer design it where the CF card holds the numbers. Seems stupid to me.

If you have more than one camera and swap cards between them, it is possible to affect the sequence. The camera tries to avoid duplicating file names and so if you use a card that has a higher image number than the camera has reached, it will use the starting point dictated by the card.

I cannot recall exactly how the logic works, but if you are scrupulously careful with your cards, then you could use the file number as indicative of the shutter actuations. But it does roll over when 9999 is reached and so you cannot be certain of the count when buying a used camera.

It would be a lot more stupid, if the camera repeated image numbers more often than 1 in 10000.

Regards,

[ron chappel]

Looks like roger has it.
I've never used my cards in other cameras and the file number sequence is still exact. (148 uploads-4829 pictures taken)
I just did a quick test and it is keeping count exactly from one upload to the next.I also don't use card readers (yet) allthough i guess they can't effect the count?
Yeah pity about the numbers resetting at 10000.
I have heard many times that canon can tell how many total actuations but i've never heard it confirmed by canon.

[Roger_Cavanagh]

I have heard many times that canon can tell how many total actuations but i've never heard it confirmed by canon.

Canon US' Chuck Westfall did confirm this on RG's forums once.

Regards,

[PhotosGuy]

Conk said: The image count went from 3028 to 5029. I reformatted the card and then inserted it into another brand new Rebel right from the box and took a photo. The image count went to 5030.

Did you miss the info on file numbering on page 58 of the manual? You can reset to zero if you want to.

[Bruce Hamilton]

Did you miss the info on file numbering on page 58 of the manual?
As a matter of fact, I did... Thanks for the heads up. ;)

[puttick]

Hi

I got a high number with the first few frames in my new 300d because I used a card from my G2, which continued when I put in my new 1Gb card. So I guess I can now just turn on autoreset - once only - to reset numbering to zero, then turn it off to maintain a continuous number record fro the 300d.

But the other problem I will now have is that photos I take on the 300d may have the same frame numbers as images from my other cameras (G2 and IXUS 400). If only there was something extra, such as an alpha prefix, that the user could set!

Thanks anyway.
Nigel

[PhotosGuy]

I file mine in a "300D" folder.

[Roger_Cavanagh]

But the other problem I will now have is that photos I take on the 300d may have the same frame numbers as images from my other cameras (G2 and IXUS 400). If only there was something extra, such as an alpha prefix, that the user could set!

Thanks anyway.
Nigel

Nigel,

You might like to check out Downloader Pro from Breeze Systems (www.breezesys.com) - same stable as BreezeBrowser. It has tokens that you can use to rename images files as they are downloaded, so you can include stuff like camera make/model.

Regards,