Using laptop on location?

[flyingdogguitar]

Hi,
Does anyone know if the Adobe photoshop elements cd which came with the 10D, allows you to have an almost instantaneous image shown on the laptop screen, to check for clarity of image etc??


Many Thanks

Dave

[vvizard]

For the sake of photoshop, you click the image, and dependant on processor-speed, ram etc, it will load very fast.. The real problem in your case is rather the hassle of getting the image from your cam to your computer. I'm a Linux-guy, so I dont use windows/photoshop frequently. Although I did for several years (several years ago) and doesn't windows have something named Twain(32) which is a generic way to acquire images from scanners/cameras? Photoshop support this, and if the 10D does, it would probably be possible to access the file directly from the camera through cable. Then you got the problem of the USB-1.1 interface. 10D images usually is 2-2.5MB large downloading such a pic doesn't go instantly (although not taking ages either). I say you just try to see if they can be acquired through the TWAIN-interface with cable. If not, I can't see any fast way of doing it. The only "sane" way of transfering 10D images is with a USB-2.0 or firewire card-reader. But in your position, that would be awfully slow, as it would mean removing your CF from the cam :/

[G3]

I have 3 ways to download images to my laptop. I can use the USB cable from the camera to the laptop and use the Zoombrowser utility, I have a built-in CF card reader on my laptop so I can use that and the Zoombrowser, or I can use a Firewire CF Card reader (and Zoombrowser).

It's a piece of cake. I use Photoshop CS, so I can't really tell you how fast Elements is. The speed that PS CS runs will be directly dependent on how much memory you have. I recommend a minimum of 1 gig. Photoshop is a resource hog.

I can have Photoshop CS , Adobe ImageReady, and Macromedia Dreamweaver up and running at the same time with no real issues. It slows down some, naturally but it still runs at a respectable speed. I have a Pentium IV 2.8Ghz processor.

[robertwgross]

... The speed that PS CS runs will be directly dependent on how much memory you have. I recommend a minimum of 1 gig. Photoshop is a resource hog.

I can have Photoshop CS , Adobe ImageReady, and Macromedia Dreamweaver up and running at the same time with no real issues. It slows down some, naturally but it still runs at a respectable speed. I have a Pentium IV 2.8Ghz processor.

G3 is from the school of "don't send a boy to do a man's job."

My Pentium IV is only 2.5GHz, and its speed on certain applications was noticeably sped up when I increased RAM from 512MB up to 1GB.

---Bob Gross---

[G3]

... The speed that PS CS runs will be directly dependent on how much memory you have. I recommend a minimum of 1 gig. Photoshop is a resource hog.

I can have Photoshop CS , Adobe ImageReady, and Macromedia Dreamweaver up and running at the same time with no real issues. It slows down some, naturally but it still runs at a respectable speed. I have a Pentium IV 2.8Ghz processor.

G3 is from the school of "don't send a boy to do a man's job."

My Pentium IV is only 2.5GHz, and its speed on certain applications was noticeably sped up when I increased RAM from 512MB up to 1GB.

---Bob Gross---

Absolutely. If you run Photoshop, you need the memory. Unfortunately, laptop memory tends to be a little pricey for some reason. And when you buy a machine and it comes with 512 meg, do you think you can just add another 512 meg module and have 1 gig? Nooooooo!! The JERKS that build these things will give you 2 256 meg modules instead of one 512 meg. You only have 2 slots, so you have to buy 2 512 megs modules, then you have 2 256 meg modules that you have no use for. There ougtta be a law.

[robertwgross]

And when you buy a machine and it comes with 512 meg, do you think you can just add another 512 meg module and have 1 gig? Nooooooo!! The JERKS that build these things will give you 2 256 meg modules instead of one 512 meg. You only have 2 slots, so you have to buy 2 512 megs modules, then you have 2 256 meg modules that you have no use for. There ougtta be a law.

My desktop machine came with two 256MB modules, and I had to swap those out for two 512MB modules. Fortunately, memory is not that terribly expensive.

In 1989, I had to pay $200 per 1MB for RAM.

In fact, I know a machine where they are still using core memory with the little magnetic donuts.

---Bob Gross---

[G3]

And when you buy a machine and it comes with 512 meg, do you think you can just add another 512 meg module and have 1 gig? Nooooooo!! The JERKS that build these things will give you 2 256 meg modules instead of one 512 meg. You only have 2 slots, so you have to buy 2 512 megs modules, then you have 2 256 meg modules that you have no use for. There ougtta be a law.

My desktop machine came with two 256MB modules, and I had to swap those out for two 512MB modules. Fortunately, memory is not that terribly expensive.

In 1989, I had to pay $200 per 1MB for RAM.

In fact, I know a machine where they are still using core memory with the little magnetic donuts.

---Bob Gross---


You gotta be kidding! Core? Really? What kind of machine?

[vvizard]

And when you buy a machine and it comes with 512 meg, do you think you can just add another 512 meg module and have 1 gig? Nooooooo!! The JERKS that build these things will give you 2 256 meg modules instead of one 512 meg. You only have 2 slots, so you have to buy 2 512 megs modules, then you have 2 256 meg modules that you have no use for. There ougtta be a law.

My desktop machine came with two 256MB modules, and I had to swap those out for two 512MB modules. Fortunately, memory is not that terribly expensive.

In 1989, I had to pay $200 per 1MB for RAM.

In fact, I know a machine where they are still using core memory with the little magnetic donuts.

---Bob Gross---

Old man :shock: I feel such a newbie in this game, cause I didnt get a computer before they had hit 5MHz! I got a whoooping 640KB RAM in it too =D

[Ballen Photo]

Dave, I use a compact flash to PMCIA adapter to slide the card into the side of my laptop. I can then Drag and drop, or use either Zoombrowser or C1 to process my photos. It's actually pretty fast. I am the slowest link in the process. :shock:
.........Bruce

[robertwgross]

In fact, I know a machine where they are still using core memory with the little magnetic donuts.


You gotta be kidding! Core? Really? What kind of machine?

It was some kind of Univac or something of that ilk. It had 256K of core memory. That is K, not M. It had a 5MB hard disk drive that was about the size of a washing machine.

Truth! In 1996, it was running a critical application for at a very large international airport. I was amazed to see this running in the equipment room underneath the control tower. That is something that only an old geezer gets to see.

---Bob Gross---

[vvizard]

Hehe mission-critical machines at large airports are probably not easy to replace. "This is tower to all pilots, please switch to manual control, and do _NOT_ attempt to land the next 30 minutes, we're about to upgrade our mainframe. The best thing you can do is pray to your God it will boot back up" =D

[Jim_T]

Hi,
Does anyone know if the Adobe photoshop elements cd which came with the 10D, allows you to have an almost instantaneous image shown on the laptop screen, to check for clarity of image etc??

I don't know what you mean by instantaneous image shown..

Elements behaves the same on a laptop as it does on a desktop computer. You transfer your images to the computer then you view them or edit them. ( I have a PCMCIA (cardbus) adapter that I use to download the images )..

I loaded Elements on my laptop.. (It's a 2.4 Ghz Celeron with 512 Megs of RAM). It's great for checking and even editing images on the road. It has a built in phone modem, so I can send images to freinds and relatives. I do find the LCD screen isn't as accurate as my dekstop monitor.

As others have mentioned.. Speed depends on your laptop... Particularly the processor and how much memory you have.....

[ahmadof]

the closest thing i can think of that others have not mentioned is remote capture. that should be on the CD. This will allow you to effectively use the laptop screen as the veiwfinder. obviously this is only of use if you are just sitting there with your camera plugged into the laptop and not moving.

[robertwgross]

the closest thing i can think of that others have not mentioned is remote capture. that should be on the CD. This will allow you to effectively use the laptop screen as the veiwfinder. obviously this is only of use if you are just sitting there with your camera plugged into the laptop and not moving.

It allows you to use the laptop screen as the viewfinder, but only AFTER the shot is captured, not before.

---Bob Gross---

[sjprg]

I was going to say to use remote capture, which does work alibet after the fact. The update 2.75 is a little better but still does not allow live preview as does the Minolta remote capture and the A1, A2.
All in all Canon software besides being propritory is a very poor excuse for a major company and they should be ashamed of themselves.

Paul

[Andy_T]

I use Elements on an (antique :lol) 1GHZ PIII 512 meg laptop. Once PS is started up, it certainly works reasonably fast.

Slowest step in the process is the transfer of the file to the PC (using a PCMCIA CF adapter and Canon's great Zoombrowser)

Maybe take a look at how to use the histogram, as well?

Best regards,
Andy

[flyingdogguitar]

Hi,
Have found Remote Capture on Addobe elements! I'll see what I can achieve.

Many Thanks

Dave

[vvizard]

I was going to say to use remote capture, which does work alibet after the fact. The update 2.75 is a little better but still does not allow live preview as does the Minolta remote capture and the A1, A2.
All in all Canon software besides being propritory is a very poor excuse for a major company and they should be ashamed of themselves.

Paul

I've never used any of Canons software, except that I tested the raw-converter once or so.. But if by "live preview" you mean using the LCD as a viewfinder, it can't be done, no matter how the program is written. It's Canon's cameras themself that hinder this from beeing possible, and not the software.

I could this on my Minolta Dimage 7i (one of A1 & A2's older brothers), but the reason for this was that the Minolta's, no matter how Minolta markets them, really haven't got a lot in common with SLR's. They got no mirror, they got no shutter (although they're able to produce fake shutter-sound from a loudspeaker when you press the button :lol: )

Last time I checked there was only one "real" DSLR that could preview things on it's LCD (and then probably on computers/TV's also), and I think it was one from Olympus. It's solved by having the mirror let light through it, onto the CMOS-chip. Then you can have the LCD reflect the contents of the CMOS. This is a compromise though, as it let's less light up into the pentaprism, and you won't get as bright image in the viewfinder as we Canon-users do. Personally I would rather keep it the way it is.