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IainB
29th of April 2004 (Thu), 19:56
I am interested in either the 300 or 10D and hope that someone can explain the basic differences between them. I understand that the 10D is newer and more expensive but beyond that I am not sure. From what I know they are both 6.3M cameras. I there are any other tips regarding accessories (lenses..) I would appreciate knowing. I currently use a G1 with various filters and the 420EX flash.
Hope you can help.

robertwgross
29th of April 2004 (Thu), 20:01
Canon 10D came out over one year ago, and the Canon 300D (Digital Rebel) came out last fall. Basically, Canon took most of the 10D, cost reduced it, and then repackaged it as the 300D. There are some feature differences, and the Canon web site is the best place to compare the two. The bigger 10D will accept any Canon EF lens, and there are quite a few. The smaller 300D will accept any Canon EF lens, and it will also accept any EF-S lens (which was developed specifically for the 300D).

If you are more serious, you'll get the 10D. If you are less serious and on a tighter budget, you'll get the 300D.

---Bob Gross---

daaaveman
29th of April 2004 (Thu), 20:13
These two reviews should sum it up for you nicely. Realize that the 300d was not out yet when the 10d review was done. The 300d review shows a direct comparison between the two.


http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos10d/

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d/

kiwimichael
30th of April 2004 (Fri), 02:23
Canon have also posted a comparison on their Canon Professional Services (CPS) site

http://www.cps.canon-europe.com/articles/article.jsp?article.articleId=65005

Michael

Whaler
30th of April 2004 (Fri), 12:33
Six months ago I was in the same boat. I bought the 300D. Spend your additional $$$ on glass. Here's why. . . . SLR bodies are going to change. What you pay $1K today will be available for $500 in a couple of years. Glass on the other hand is not going to change. I can't wait to see what Canon comes up with to replace the first generation 300D. :D

robertwgross
30th of April 2004 (Fri), 12:56
[quote="Whaler"] What you pay $1K today will be available for $500 in a couple of years. /quote]

But if you can shoot $50K worth of images in those two years, you might be better off getting the better one now. This assumes that your skill is high enough.

---Bob Gross---

scottbergerphoto
30th of April 2004 (Fri), 13:09
Before you buy the 300D, please do yourself a favor and read the posts of the people who bought the 300D and then made a list of firmware enhancemments they would like so that it would function like the 10D.
The 300D lacks FEC, Custom Functions, the ability to manually decide on single shot AF vs. Servo AF. If you don't think you'll want/need those things, then perhaps the 300D is for you. There are many people who love both cameras. I am partial to the 10D. Just be aware before you decide.
Scott

Andy_T
30th of April 2004 (Fri), 14:14
Go to the photo shop.
Pick them up both.
Play around with the controls, take some images.

Don't underestimate the 'feel' of the camera.

To me, the 'feel' of the 10D is worth more than the custom functions.

Best regards,
Andy

NILOLIGIST
30th of April 2004 (Fri), 15:08
One difference is the feel of the camera. It is important that you actually get a grip on the cameras and see which one you like best.

I would get the 10D especially if money is not the issue. If it is, get the 300D. I would rather grow into a camera or buy one that I have already outgrown or is not really what I want.

I originally purchased the G3 but wanted something more. Few months later I purchased the 10D and have been happy ever since...Okay, the MKII came along and I got it but I still love my 10D.

For some reason people think that you waste money when you buy a camera that is more advanced than you are, I totally disagree.

You will grow into, you will be able to explore and learn. On the other hand, I think you spend more if you buy a camera near where you are shooting, there is nothing to grow into.

MHO

Just try and figure out what is important for you in terms of features and get the camera that best suits your needs.

Either way, good luck and welcome to the club.

NiL,

IainB
30th of April 2004 (Fri), 21:09
This is all extremely helpful. I shall do all of the above suggestions in terms of comparison and review.
I also like the comment about spending money on 'glass'.
As far as features go, I intend to 'judge' each model on how it meets my needs photographically. The G1 has been a great learning tool but even it includes features that don't interest me greatly.
Regarding the 'feel' factor, it is a powerful one and not to be totally ignored...
Regarding lenses, my 'film' camera uses a zoom 28-58mm and an 85-210mm set. For what I enjoy photographing, that's a good pairing.
I'm interested to know what choices (priority) others have made for their digital slrs.

MarkH
30th of April 2004 (Fri), 23:28
For me the 10D with 3fps/9 shot buffer is over twice the camera that the 300D is with its 2.5fps/4 shot buffer. If you shoot fast action (sports, birds in flight, motor racing, kids, etc) then you should buy the 10D.

jens1204@earthlink.net
2nd of May 2004 (Sun), 09:56
My feeling is that if you can live without the extra features of the 10d then why not go for the cheap one. Especially if you are making a living through photography. You could almost buy two 300d bodies for the price of a 10d. So you would have a backup camera.

Andy_T
2nd of May 2004 (Sun), 10:17
If you go for the 300D .... wait until the black one is available here :lol:

It will be essentially the same thing, but most likely will have a higher resale value (people aren't rational)

Best regards,
Andy

tiger20
8th of October 2004 (Fri), 15:34
Great advice/info. Looks like I'll be purchasing a 10D.

waynejgilbert
8th of October 2004 (Fri), 18:26
One thing is you should never settle get what you want and think you'll use for a couple of years, Don't worry what everyone around is shooting with most people buy high priced toys for all the wrong reasons.

stoneylonesome
8th of October 2004 (Fri), 18:49
Another good source for a review is Steve's Digicam
http://www.steves-digicams.com/cameras_digpro.html

I was in the same situation, buy the 300D which I could easily afford or stretch the budget and get the 10D I decided on the 10D I think the main reason was the magnesium body over the plastic and a few of the other little options