Purple Lily

[grandadraymond]

any comments please

[Lawrie B]

Hi Ray
Lovely Rich colors, Might need to be a bit lighter thou

[twinx]

Very nice shot there GR, I love the rich colours, nice DOF, it's almost coming out of the screen. But I agree with Lawrie, a little more light. :)

[grandadraymond]

thank you a little encouragement helps me a lot same as the truth if my photos were awful,better to say so then i can maybe learn from the critisism,as im only learning thank you

[grandadraymond]

thank you a little encouragement helps me a lot same as the truth if my photos were awful,better to say so then i can maybe learn from the critisism,as im only learning thank you PS i wish i could use photoshop,but alas,do people always use editing .may i ask is this not straying from photography to art

[twinx]

PS i wish i could use photoshop,but alas,do people always use editing .may i ask is this not straying from photography to art

That's a very good point to raise, it would be interesting to hear others views on this actually. It's something I question on a daily basis. But I guess, a little touch of tweaking does no harm at all. :)

[grandadraymond]

what im trying to say is,some of the photo's shown are out of this world they are fantastic,but if you cant use photoshop ,well i guess youve got no chance

[waussie]

Photoshop is not the be all and end all, most if not all it does can be done with other simpler, cheaper (or free) programs.
Some people even to use pictures straight out of the camera :)

[grandadraymond]

Photoshop is not the be all and end all, most if not all it does can be done with other simpler, cheaper (or free) programs.
Some people even to use pictures straight out of the camera :)I agree with you ,im just saying if you can use photoshop you can make photo's fantastic:) unfortunately i cant so all i can do is sit back and admire others:confused:

[bluedrakon]

I usually use Photoshop for sharpening if needed. I have done some artistic rendering due to poor focusing (ie got to darn close).

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=313282

However, with that said, the New Adobe Lightroom is really bring out some more color than my shots originally. It was made for photographers specially and seems easier to use.

[racketman]

Digital slrs are not designed to produce photos which are 'finished' without any editing. Most shoot in RAW and adjust WB, sharpening, levels etc in Photoshop as Canon require you to do. It is not cheating any more than masking etc in a darkroom is cheating. Obviously if you are combining images or using special filter effects then you should state this and be judged accordingly on your photoshop skills.

[mjm80]

Very nice shot - good rich colours and crisp detail.
Re- photoshop Isee photography as a two stage process, firstly capturing the scene in front of you to the best of your ability and secondly to artistically improve the final image through pp.

I've had similar disussions with artist friends and pointed out that the only difference is that they do their pp during the capture stage. eg. painting a blue sky on an overcast day or ignoring a telegraph pole which is spoiling the view.

[grandadraymond]

thanks for your compliment and advice

[nicksan]

That's always a point of debate.

I always shoots raw, hence I always apply some sharpening and perhaps adjust the levels/curves and highlights/shadows. I will also adjust White Balance if needed. (Usually the case when I shoot inside the house under incadecent lighting) Same thing with exposure. I don't have the ability to "nail it" everytime, not even close!

I'm pretty confident that it's not cheating since you could actually do all these things in-camera to generate jpeg. (Adjust sharpness, White Balance, exposure, etc...)

So you have to understand that when you generate a jpeg from the camera, it's a "processed" image. With RAW files, there is no processing, and it's up to you to do what the camera would normally do for jpeg images.

Now, anything beyond that, like coloring in a richer looking sky, cloning, getting rid of things that are in the way in terms of composition, that really all hovers the fine line between photography and art.

Is it cheating to clone something out of a frame? Maybe. It depends on the purpose of photography for the individual.

For me, the "art" side of it appeals to me. I'd like to get to a point where I can capture something with my own unique perspective. I'm not there yet.



PS i wish i could use photoshop,but alas,do people always use editing .may i ask is this not straying from photography to art