I hate being 16

[Zilly]

Last year i spent the season shooting at a uk track (name location and even sport will remain undisclosed) during that season i was 15/16 and they are aware of this . this year i ring up for crediatals again fill out all the paper work get my press acditation from the biggest magazine for this sport in the uk. Only to get a phone call today that because im not 18 i carnt get creditals. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

how does two years make the slightest bit of diffrence.

off to fester in a corner

[aussieskier]

The two years will go fast enough mate.

I can understand your frustration though, I would imagine that they have their reasoning.

[SuzyView]

Oh, to be 16 again! Nope, not doing it. Worst years of my life waiting to be old enough to do something. :) Well, I'd say the same as above. Good thing time does fly. You have talent, develop some more skill and for some reason, 18 is a magic age and you can do all sorts of stupid things adults do. Enjoy your youngness. It only happens once!

[jptsr1]

the age limit is probably due to some sort of liability reason. lawyers have everyone covering their rears these days. ill gladly trade you my 37 for your 16? hang in there, 18 is just around the corner. in the meantime enjoy 16 and find something else to shoot.

J.

[Glenn NK]

I'll trade you.;)

I remember WWII (and remember Anscochrome).

[cdifoto]

I miss being 16. I could get away with more. And gas was a lot cheaper.

[timbernet]

16 was horrible! 18 is much nicer! - but then you hit 18 and you want to be 21... and then you hit 40, and you want to be 18 again!

I am 19 now, and wouldn't go back to 16 ever....

[Zilly]

Good thing time does fly. You have talent, develop some more skill

thanks
as for more skills photographic wise local wedding photogs dont want me because "im too young to use"

other sports? nope no good there got to be 18 again

local press? Thanks for your intrest but we currently have a full team of photographers

fine art? im alright thanks


Jpstr 1 their rule books state that you have to be 18 to photograph there as it said in last years eddition

[timbernet]

Jpstr 1 their rule books state that you have to be 18 to photograph there as it said in last years eddition

Your gallery speaks for itself - you have an "eye" and talent.
I know they probably don't want to make an exception for you, because then they would have to make an exception for others - BUT - you were there last year and didn't cause any issues... you have prior experience... Maybe show up in person and talk to one of the head people face-to-face....

[Zilly]

its a 6 hour trip down via public transport [my normal route].

the've got compititons on this weekend so going to weight and have a indepth chat with them on tusday (via phone)

the problem is that i now have 3 articles aweighting pictures that i carnt complete till ive got pictures which i carnt do till ive got a press pass

[nwa2]

16 was horrible! 18 is much nicer! - but then you hit 18 and you want to be 21... and then you hit 40, and you want to be 18 again!


Nope don't think so.

40 and a bit now. I might want to be 30 something, but 18 ... no.

Then again, 40 is the new 30, so guess what .... I have everything I want ... god works in mysterious ways.

[crn3371]

Hang in there, Dom. I've followed your posts in Motorsports and I was surprised in reading this thread that you were only 16. You have talent, skill, and maturity beyond your years. Yes, it sucks that you are basically being discriminated against because of your age. But, fair, or not, rules are rules. Continue honing your skills, building your portfolio. 18 will be here in no time!

[Zilly]

crn3371 thanks means alot

might be a excuse to invest in some bigger glass now that im not going to be soo close to the action. now 400mm f2.8 or a car . . . . . . . .

[cgratti]

how does two years make the slightest bit of diffrence.

off to fester in a corner
Two years makes a world of difference in maturity, you don't realize it now but it does.

[DAMphyne]

I say get the 400mm lens, cars are cheap.
Keep pushing those folks, they'll see your drive and ask you to come to them.
Good Luck

[steved110]

I hated being a teenager. But it will go fast enough. Make the most of every day and try not to wish your life away. there a re a lot of other things to shoot.

[Zilly]

Two years makes a world of difference in maturity, you don't realize it now but it does.

how is it im not toatal stupid im going to jump out of the way of flyin shrapnel just as quickly when im 16 as when im 18 in fact by the tim im 18 im probably going to be taller and bigger so there is going to be more of me to hit :confused:

only hope when i ring again on tusday i manage to get something sorted cause its the most fun ever and is all ive been looking forard to for the last 5 months :rolleyes:

[cylentka]

Don't they have fake IDs over there? ;)

[cgratti]

how is it im not toatal stupid im going to jump out of the way of flyin shrapnel just as quickly when im 16 as when im 18 in fact by the tim im 18 im probably going to be taller and bigger so there is going to be more of me to hit :confused:

only hope when i ring again on tusday i manage to get something sorted cause its the most fun ever and is all ive been looking forard to for the last 5 months :rolleyes:


LOL, your thinking like a 16 year old. It's not what you just mentioned, but.. When your a bit older you will learn a few things about life.

a.) An 18 year old is more apt to be a bit more mature and follow the rules better. You still have those raging hormones and most 16 yr olds have the "I can conquer the world" attitude, not all, but most.

b.) your more likely to make a decision based on the moment without thinking about the future reprecussions (sp?). I know I did things at 16 I would dream of now because I can see how dumb I was and could have been injured or injured someone else.

c.) In an adult event like this, adults don't want kids there. They want this adult time and don't want to be looking over thier shoulders for teenagers.

I have nothing against you or teens for that matter, but if I was to go to an event like this I would want to spend my time and money with adults, and ot have packs of teens around. Thats just me. Get used to being treated like a kid until your 18, everyone went through it. Use this time to get the eqipment you need and hone your skills so that when you are 18 your a step ahead of the rest of the pack. Good Luck.

[Zilly]

you assuming that the events adults only, its not in fact the events are markected as a family event

your also assuming that the people around me are paying there not in fact where all working for press so we all have a job to do.

the rules are simple stay on your feet dont cross the yellow lines dont walk in front of the BB, dont stand infront of the safty vericals and dont run, you do any ove the above and you get a stern talking to. i have yet to have a stern talking to and in fact i have been compliment on how well and professional i act while photographing

[saravrose]

sorry young one.. I remember that age.. and the frustration that came with not being legally old enough to do what I wanted.. the last thing you want to hear is that your turn will come or you just have to wait.. I know you don't want to. Just realize with time comes experience and maturity.. just realize that being an adult isn't all it's cracked up to be.. From bills to working and not having the hours out of the day to do what you want..

sari

[condyk]

Shame 'rules' tend to be blanket and ignore individual characteristics and context ... but that's life. Get over it and discover girls instead :-)

[SuzyView]

Shame 'rules' tend to be blanket and ignore individual characteristics and context ... but that's life. Get over it and discover girls instead :-)

LOL :lol: Now you're talking expensive and frustrating.:o

[Pete W]

LOL :lol: Now you're talking expensive and frustrating.:o


Voice of experience :lol: broke a few hearts then ;)



I agree with you Zilly, talk to them calmly and explain your case, BUT if they say NO take it graciously and ask them to reconsider when you are 17...... DO NOT BURN YOUR BRIDGES....... Good luck for Tuesday :)

[SuzyView]

This is when your maturity has to come through. A temper tantrum would definitely make you look bad. I work with teenagers and have one. It's hard to accept that you have more to do before you are allowed to do certain things. It doesn't mean you are any less talented. Just have to put in the time like the rest. There have to be accountability and standards in life. Otherwise, teenagers would rule the world and we'd all think we were invulnerable.

[Grentz]

Well for being 16 you have one heck of a nice set of gear and there are always things to shoot. So I wouldn't worry about it too much.

I know those years start to go EXTREMELY fast so do not wish to be 18, because it will come in a blink of an eye and then there are other things to worry about!

[Zilly]

Thanks peter no intention of throwing a temper tanturm on the phone as its going to get you no where apart from being hung up on. if its not ment to be well ill get a big ladder and stand with the peasants will work but wont get the results that im after

going to ring round the local sports club sand see if thell send me a list of fixtures to keep me busy over the summer

might look into doing event photography for the local sunday leagues

[Zilly]

have spent the day producing a online portfolio for my work from last year to show the press officer. hopfully this and some carefully choosen words should help me along

if not do i lower my self to all out groviling :S

[cylentka]

Best of luck to you! Let us know how it goes. Even tell them the POTN community supports you, if that would help, lol.

[Zilly]

thanks
might slide that one in before groveling

have also have the ok from the most influential man in the sport to drop his name in as many times as required.

wonder if i could sell the press officer my soul or body in return for a pass . . . . .

[rhys]

thanks
might slide that one in before groveling

have also have the ok from the most influential man in the sport to drop his name in as many times as required.

wonder if i could sell the press officer my soul or body in return for a pass . . . . .

Name dropping doesn't really get anybody anywhere. I could name the head of employment at a local organisation that promised me a job which has never ever happened. I had a phonecall from the personnel manager saying the manager of the appropriate department would be in touch. He rang and left a message. I retrned the call and had to leave a message. I did that twice and never heard back. Then I called personnel and left a message (about a month later) and had a wierd message left which demonstrated pretty clearly that she had no intention of playing along with the head of employment. It looks like the chief says yes and the tiers of indians below him are suspicious that a spy would be in their midst and are being as deliberately obstructive and hostile as can be.

Anyway, the point is that influential people don't have as much influence as they think they do or as much as they let everybody else believe. I could cite many further examples like that.

[Zilly]

looks like ill be selling body parts then wonder how much i could get for a kidney ????

[rhys]

looks like ill be selling body parts then wonder how much i could get for a kidney ????

You could do worse than work for McDonalds for the summer. At least it's honest work.

[lookingforaname]

you could ask to make it an internship for yourself? that would look good on college resumes too.

[Zilly]

internship ???????
whats a internship??

[Jon]

I wouldn't be surprised if the reason they have an age limit is because of their insurance coverage. Did you have any kind of official recognition last year, or were you under the radar?

An internship's basically an apprenticeship.

[Pete W]

internship ???????
whats a internship??

Work Experience ;)

[Zilly]

I wouldn't be surprised if the reason they have an age limit is because of their insurance coverage. Did you have any kind of official recognition last year, or were you under the radar?

An internship's basically an apprenticeship.


had the same accreditation last year as i do this year

[Costa Del Canon]

16 was horrible! 18 is much nicer! - but then you hit 18 and you want to be 21... and then you hit 40, and you want to be 18 again!

I am 19 now, and wouldn't go back to 16 ever....

Hey! Steady on, I'm 42 and happier than ever! Hated 16, 18 much better, 21 ok, but 40 fab! fab! fab! :lol:

[SuzyView]

Oh, to be young and under 20. My legs used to work and I had a waist. ;)

Enjoy it. If I had the talent and skill, I'd design a killer website with an amazing gallery to show off to those older business people who think I'm just a young thing with a pretty face. :)

[DC9]

I spent half my life getting to eighteen so enjoy it while you can.

I understand your frustration but my advice would be to take advantage of your youth and shoot photos of situations that an ol fart like me wouldn’t and/or couldn’t photograph. Your youth can take you places that my baldhead and fat gut won’t get me into so take advantage of it while you can.

In the mean time keep banging on the door. Seek legal advice and see if you can get a waver to their labiality requirements. It will most likely take your parent’s signature along with a notary seal to basically say if our son gets maimed or killed we won’t sue the snot out of ya.

Good luck!

[Zilly]

just a quick update been trying to get threw all day today with no luck if i dont hear anything back by thusrday ill compose a email to the press officer

[Zilly]

still nothing kinda get the feeling im just being ingored as other togs that have contacted the PO this week have all had responces

going to wright a email i think when i can work to what to say

[Woolburr]

still nothing kinda get the feeling im just being ingored as other togs that have contacted the PO this week have all had responces

going to wright a email i think when i can work to what to say

Please take the time to examine your spelling and word use before you send it off. Take yourself to a higher level and try to stay there...it will work to your advantage. If insurance is the reason they are not letting you work....you might ask them if there is a way to get some form of limited access that will allow you to shoot and still satisfy the insurance folks.

[Zilly]

yes sorry about the spelling I dont send anything offical/inportant off with out getting it proof read at least twice.

wouldnt mind being told cause of insurance purposes but all i have been told is im too young (which i was last year as well )

[Woolburr]

yes sorry about the spelling I dont send anything offical/inportant off with out getting it proof read at least twice.

wouldnt mind being told cause of insurance purposes but all i have been told is im too young (which i was last year as well )

They should accept that your work is very good...and run with that. Like I said...if insurance is the problem, they should just say so and find a way to give you some access, because it looks to me like you have already proven yourself to them as a competent photographer and a responsible young adult.

[Shutter22]

I wish I was 16. Do you know how emabrassing it is asking bands for rides to shoot locations? Agh!

I'm 16 in August.

[Mrselfdestruct]

Last year i spent the season shooting at a uk track (name location and even sport will remain undisclosed) during that season i was 15/16 and they are aware of this . this year i ring up for crediatals again fill out all the paper work get my press acditation from the biggest magazine for this sport in the uk. Only to get a phone call today that because im not 18 i carnt get creditals. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

how does two years make the slightest bit of diffrence.

off to fester in a corner


Shame about the press pass, but I wish I was 16 again!!! Enjoy that age, cause once you graduate high school you might as well jump into retirement. Even though I'm only 19, I feel like life isn't going to be much more fun than this lmao. Photography always keeps my hopes high though. The thought of being pro and making money off of a hobby, or travelling the world, it helps...

Shane

[Zilly]

I wish I was 16. Do you know how emabrassing it is asking bands for rides to shoot locations? Agh!

I'm 16 in August.

ive hitched hiked to many a event with competitors in fact im off to germany later in the year with a team for a week should be good :P

i pay them in great shots and a free print of their best round from the weekend

woolbur thanks for the kind words. Im not sure if shes aware of my work or not so i have put a portfolio together for her but she wont return my calls so i carnt show her it

going to compose a email later she if i get any more luck from that

[Zilly]

just another quick update have just emailed the press officer

would post the message up here

but unsure to weather its a good idea or not

[S.Horton]

I miss being 16. I could get away with more. And gas was a lot cheaper.

Yeah, if I could warp back to 16 with what I know now....... Youth is wasted on the young (I'm quoting someone but I can't recall who)

I think I got away with plenty. Yeah, from what I can remember, I did. Good times.

:D

[ACDCROCKS]

17 was my best year...Your old enough to get respected, but young enought not to get introuble ( not that I was bad). I think it's idiotic on how this world is based on numbers sometimes... DOn't have a good gpa, but hell I have common sense and take pretty darn good pics.:lol:

[DC9]

just another quick update have just emailed the press officer

would post the message up here

but unsure to weather its a good idea or not

Keep it professional and don’t burn any bridges. Don’t ever post a private correspondence on the web without the original authors’ permission. This could come back to haunt you when you are at the age to apply for a press pass.

[Zilly]

Right finaly got a reply of the boss

basicly. new H+S regs have been brought in so I carnt get any where near the track till I'm 18.

Anyone want to sponsor me a 300mm f2.8 and a 2x tele ???