Canon EF 24mm f/1.4L USM

[timnosenzo]

Ah well, nothing a bank robbery and a 1Ds mk III won't fix. :D

Actually a 1Ds MKIII won't fix it--the AF points are still very much centered. It's pretty much that way on all FF cameras.

http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS1DSMarkIII/images/vf.jpg

[airfrogusmc]

And I know what you mean! :D

That "5D + L prime" look keeps grabbing my attention, but the AF shortcomings are deal breakers for me. Ah well, nothing a bank robbery and a 1Ds mk III won't fix. :D

AF shortcomings like the 24L is soft are WAY OVER RATED. I never miss shots because of focus problems with the 5D. Use it enough to learn how to use it properly and you won't have any problems. The 85L focuses way to slow too ;) :lol::lol:.

Don't believe everything you read on forums. Most that make charges don't have the equipment they are complaining about or haven't taken the time to get use to the equipment.

[TheHoff]

I've posted about the AF speed on the 24L before and while I've said it could be improved, I agree with the above -- it is perfectly usable and you'd never think that it was slower until you compare it to the 16-35 II.

[Jannie]

The 85L focuses way too slow when you are going from one extreme to the other but for portraiture which I think it was developed for, I really don't notice it that much, (okay it's not that fast if you're doing night street shooting) what I do notice is that it's very touchy trying to get precise focus using one of the outer focus squares on a 5D when shooting 1.2 because there's only something like 8 tenths of an inch depth of field. You get it right and it works, the whole face looks good if that eye is crisp.

A fantastic lens, but the hardest one I own to work with.

I've actually been kind of thinking of getting one of the first generation 24L's when they start getting traded in and picking one up used at a good price. Everything I've seen from them is really good.

[-g-]

Just got mine last night. I've posted this in a couple other places but thought I'd jam it into here as well. :)

Not wide open - f/8.0 79 seconds ISO 100. I think it turned out pretty good.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/2944493618_5858761128_o.jpg

[silverwolf]

Just got mine last night. I've posted this in a couple other places but thought I'd jam it into here as well. :)

Not wide open - f/8.0 79 seconds ISO 100. I think it turned out pretty good.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/2944493618_5858761128_o.jpg Dang i say soo nice shot!! Tide Is Out;)

[MichSt]

Here's a couple of fall shots. I'm lovin this lens on my 5D

1.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3279/2945967270_a582fc5125_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/marioq/2945967270/)

2.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/2943401284_8fa287c946_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/marioq/2943401284/)

3.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2945102563_79091775b8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/marioq/2945102563/)

[dkspook]

AF shortcomings like the 24L is soft are WAY OVER RATED. I never miss shots because of focus problems with the 5D. Use it enough to learn how to use it properly and you won't have any problems. The 85L focuses way to slow too ;) :lol::lol:.

Don't believe everything you read on forums. Most that make charges don't have the equipment they are complaining about or haven't taken the time to get use to the equipment.


I've used the 5D, not just read about it :)

I prefer the AF on my 40D by far. Used the 24L with it in extremely poor light last weekend:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3026/2946635921_9a3996ee28.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/2947479264_57252ea48a.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3135/2947486172_11b858e7be.jpg

I absolutely LOVE being able to shoot in dim light without flash. I was shooting ISO 1000 -> 1600 to get 1/50 at F/1.4 to F/2.0. AF was spot on every time - and fast! I love the 5D look, as stated previously, but I am far too AF-dependant to ever use it as my primary camera body. If only the D700 was built with an EF mount, the choice would be easy. But there is no way in HELL I'll ever abandon my Canon primes!

[J-B]

This lens gets amazingly sharp from f2.8!

100% crop at F4:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9769/crop24l1of1fo2.jpg

[cherrymoon]

OMG !

So nice shot. I love the colours and DOF :cool:

Just got mine last night. I've posted this in a couple other places but thought I'd jam it into here as well. :)

Not wide open - f/8.0 79 seconds ISO 100. I think it turned out pretty good.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/2944493618_5858761128_o.jpg

[-g-]

OMG ! So nice shot. I love the colours and DOF :cool:

Thank you very much. :oops:

[The Ghost of FM]

A couple of fall shots from my walk around the park today.





http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h250/thefontmeister/CopyofIMG_5550Large.jpg





http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h250/thefontmeister/IMG_5554Large.jpg





Cheers!

[lbeck]

Beautiful shots Ghost of FM!

[The Ghost of FM]

Thanks! ;)

Cheers!

[-g-]

Is this too dark?

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff44/genodm/WR%20Lowlight/3D3X5157-Edit2.jpg

[dmwphoto]

Is this too dark?

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff44/genodm/WR%20Lowlight/3D3X5157-Edit2.jpg

not for an IR shot

[-g-]

not for an IR shot

Except it's not IR... :) Color converted to Tin Type in Nik Silver FX with a few tweaks here and there. Flowers in the foreground were yellow. 30 seconds @ f/11.0

[dmwphoto]

oopsy, my bad. You sure fooled me.

[Stealthy Ninja]

Good stuff, Nick. Hate the cat shot, and for some reason I love the grass :D

Here is one @ 1.6, it is quite good at 100%

http://i35.tinypic.com/35lt4qa.jpg

Dude, that baby doesn't reselble the bloke in your avatar at all. Maybe a DNA test is in order.

:lol:

Can you believe I have made a total turn around and I'm thinking of getting this lens (well the version II)... I blame "The Hoff". :mad: ;)

bw! <-- Hoff's Baby is book worthy I think.

[JAcosta]

I cant remember if I posted this here or not.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3163/2650088745_1ca567507e_b.jpg

Straight out of camera JPEG, no adjustments what so ever. Taken with a 1D Mark IIn.

[TheGreatDivorce]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/ixoye/forrest-erin-wedding-0147lrz.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/ixoye/forrest-erin-wedding-0150lrz.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/ixoye/forrest-erin-wedding-0155lrz.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/ixoye/forrest-erin-wedding-0159lrz.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/ixoye/forrest-erin-wedding-0212lrz.jpg

[sheawyatt]

^ Fantastic! Love the processing as well.

[TheGreatDivorce]

thanks!

[dkspook]

For low-light shots when flash is not an option, this lens is unbeatable.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i94/kaffemonster/annainthedark_800.jpg
40D, ISO 800. And my newborn daughter :)

[cvt01]

^^^ This is the ultimate delivery room lens (on a crop) ;)
Here is my take:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3034/3017714643_6aa1659d46.jpg

I rented the lens just for the occasion now it's done its job and I could send it back early and get some refund for the unused time but just can't do it :mrgreen:

[TheHoff]

Holy wow, does everyone use this lens in the delivery room now?! Really great shots, guys. They are beautiful!

This is film, Ilford HP5 processed in Rodinal. I have it printed and hanging (pun intended) --

http://i34.tinypic.com/e9akx0.jpg



and Geno, you're rockin it with this 24L. I really miss mine now but I'll save up for V2.

[-g-]

Holy wow, does everyone use this lens in the delivery room now?! Really great shots, guys. They are beautiful!

This is film, Ilford HP5 processed in Rodinal. I have it printed and hanging (pun intended) -- and Geno, you're rockin it with this 24L. I really miss mine now but I'll save up for V2.

Not to worry, I won't be taking it into a delivery room. BTW, I get the pun. :eek:

I'm enjoying this puppy. I don't think I've used any other lens (except for a couple of macro shots) since I got it.

Here's a couple others I'm fond of from a recent trip to Granville Island:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3208/3009635885_1b8a249fd2_o.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3141/3013337950_5b3cd03bac_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/3008177856_961401d6f6_o.jpg

and a 478 second exposure at White Rock:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3273/2948035025_d125e514d8_o.jpg

[jacobsen1]

Ryan, great set as usual, but I just love something about this one:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/ixoye/forrest-erin-wedding-0150lrz.jpg

[dlintz]

Ryan, great set as usual, but I just love something about this one:

I agree, it has an "American Gothic" quality to it.

d.

[Stealthy Ninja]

Holy wow, does everyone use this lens in the delivery room now?! Really great shots, guys. They are beautiful!

This is film, Ilford HP5 processed in Rodinal. I have it printed and hanging (pun intended) --

http://i34.tinypic.com/e9akx0.jpg



and Geno, you're rockin it with this 24L. I really miss mine now but I'll save up for V2.

Takes after his father I see. Not that I'd know. :rolleyes:

[Domino81]

Takes after his father I see. Not that I'd know. :rolleyes:

His father has huge balls? O_o

[airfrogusmc]

Ryan, great set as usual, but I just love something about this one:

All ya need is a tigher crop and pitch forks and ya got a Grant Wood.

[Stealthy Ninja]

His father has huge balls? O_o

LOL? Well he is brave* (from what I've heard).



* When he goes out and does street photography

[TheGreatDivorce]

thanks guys! i do have a tighter crop of that one, but it was with the 85 :)

[1downfall]

oooooooohhhh my........Some how, I just freakin clicked the buy button......Here it comes!!
(if i do not post here in 1 week....wife has gotten a hold of me.,.....please come looking!):D

[1downfall]

I posted this earlier this morning in the landscape section...wanted finally add a photo here w/ my 2 day old 24!

1.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s174/1downfall/DPP_0934.jpg

[airfrogusmc]

Nice!!!!

[Stealthy Ninja]

I posted this earlier this morning in the landscape section...wanted finally add a photo here w/ my 2 day old 24!

1.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s174/1downfall/DPP_0934.jpg

Who lit the horizon on fire??

Awesome colours in that photo dude. Like totally woot worthy.

[1downfall]

hey thank you all!! I really appreciate the comments...it helps the freezing/numb fingers a little!

[1downfall]

hmmm no more 24 shooters? Well, here is another with my 24.....just trying out some sunflare in an open field. (posted in landscape as well)

1.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s174/1downfall/DPP_0975.jpg

[jacobsen1]

so should we kick Ryan out of this thread now?

and I'm LOVING having FF again with my 24L. Having it on a cropper for 2 months proved the 35L isn't for me at least....

http://www.benjacobsen.com/wp-content/gallery/christmas-2008/img_0780.jpg

http://www.benjacobsen.com/wp-content/gallery/christmas-2008/img_0791.jpg

http://www.benjacobsen.com/wp-content/gallery/christmas-2008/img_0812.jpg

[TheGreatDivorce]

lol. me? i don't wanna get kicked out!

the 24 really shines on FF. almost as much as the 35 ;)

[jacobsen1]

:lol:

whoops, got franklinn's quote of your pics mixed up with his sig:
franklinn | Current favourite quote:"The 5D is like Santa. It just keeps on giving" -perryge
My gear? I rock a 5D classic and a 35L because I'm badass like that. I also have an 85mm and some speedlites in my bag. Yeah, that's right, two primes baby.
Webpage to come. I just need the photographs.
thinking you said that about the 5D/35L combo... my bad. :lol:

and nice scoob shot. wish I had a wagon, but when I got my WRX after my outback, I wanted something as much different as I could get from the outback, so yeah, sedan. :confused: Wished I'd gone wagon now though.

[TheGreatDivorce]

haha, got it :) glad i'm not getting the boot!

understandable after the outback. i really like the sedans, too, but there's just something about the wagons. now i'm getting the itch for an LGT wagon, but i'll just wait till i have little ones to fill the seats.

[dkspook]

Well heres something from christmas eve - My mom holding my daughter. Naked 580 EX II bounced to the left.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3098/3140354533_6d09b0fea3.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dk_spook/3140354533/sizes/l/in/set-72157607698321986/)
Click for bigger :)

[airfrogusmc]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_1038.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_1054.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_1042.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_1043.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_1046.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_1044.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_1056.jpg

[airfrogusmc]

A couple more from earlier

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_1024.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_1026.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_1033.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_1025.jpg

[grego]

Just got the lens and still playing with it. Having two different crop factors gives me some fun stuff to play with.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/greg9683/MyPhotography/MG4S0028_500.jpg

[sumyungguy]

Great shot!

The gallery of the Furious Photographers has some amazing work.

[grego]

Thanks Brad! We definitely work hard.

[jwcdds]

http://www.pbase.com/jwcdds/image/107754454.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jwcdds/image/107719913.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jwcdds/image/107754519.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jwcdds/image/107754522.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jwcdds/image/107719924.jpg

[jwcdds]

http://www.pbase.com/jwcdds/image/107840816.jpg

[airfrogusmc]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_7699.jpg

100%
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_7699crop.jpg

[jwcdds]

http://www.pbase.com/jwcdds/image/107975057.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jwcdds/image/107975055.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jwcdds/image/107975061.jpg

[jwcdds]

http://www.pbase.com/jwcdds/image/108057191.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jwcdds/image/108057201.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jwcdds/image/108057204.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jwcdds/image/108057207.jpg

[jacobsen1]

damn I love this lens. Hardly ever left my 5D and is now practically welded to my 5Dii.

#1
http://www.benjacobsen.com/wp-content/gallery/eaj-10-month-update/img_1145.jpg

#2
http://www.benjacobsen.com/wp-content/gallery/eaj-10-month-update/img_1197.jpg

#3
http://www.benjacobsen.com/wp-content/gallery/eaj-10-month-update/img_1217.jpg

#4
http://www.benjacobsen.com/wp-content/gallery/eaj-10-month-update/img_1264.jpg

#5
http://www.benjacobsen.com/wp-content/gallery/eaj-10-month-update/img_1292.jpg

#6
http://www.benjacobsen.com/wp-content/gallery/eaj-10-month-update/img_1326.jpg

#7
http://www.benjacobsen.com/wp-content/gallery/eaj-10-month-update/img_1339.jpg

#8
http://www.benjacobsen.com/wp-content/gallery/eaj-10-month-update/img_1348.jpg

[1downfall]

wow what a cutie pie! awesome shots ben!

[suyenfung]

haha #7!

[airfrogusmc]

haha #7!
Cone Head :lol:

... Nice shots...

[Domino81]

Just got the lens and still playing with it. Having two different crop factors gives me some fun stuff to play with.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/greg9683/MyPhotography/MG4S0028_500.jpg

I like that. :) Lots.

[str8addicted]

i came across a deal i couldn't pass up for a 24mm 1.4 a couple weeks ago but my Tammy 17-50 seems to out shine the 24 in sharpness. i know i didn't buy the 24 to shoot at above f5 but i shoot alot of glamor type stuff and i want to be able to use the 24 in low light situations with at least being able to keep most of the model in focus and rather sharp with out stopping up to much.... so i'm trying to quickin my learning curve.

so any suggestions or experiences are welcome... my main goal is to try and stay around 1/160 f2-f4 with out the bokeh taken over to much

[grego]

i came across a deal i couldn't pass up for a 24mm 1.4 a couple weeks ago but my Tammy 17-50 seems to out shine the 24 in sharpness. i know i didn't buy the 24 to shoot at above f5 but i shoot alot of glamor type stuff and i want to be able to use the 24 in low light situations with at least being able to keep most of the model in focus and rather sharp with out stopping up to much.... so i'm trying to quickin my learning curve.

so any suggestions or experiences are welcome... my main goal is to try and stay around 1/160 f2-f4 with out the bokeh taken over to much

Wait, what? At what aperture?

[str8addicted]

Wait, what? At what aperture?
Tammy at 1/200 f5.6-f7.1... 24mm 1/200 f2.8

well i just needs tips... i shouldn't really compare the two lens cuz they are for different uses and i have a lot more experience with the tammy so i should be able to get what i want out of the tammy.... i more so need tips on how to get the most out of my 24 or what should i be trying to gain more experience with the lens

[grego]

Tammy at 1/200 f5.6-f7.1... 24mm 1/200 f2.8

well i just needs tips... i shouldn't really compare the two lens cuz they are for different uses and i have a lot more experience with the tammy so i should be able to get what i want out of the tammy.... i more so need tips on how to get the most out of my 24 or what should i be trying to gain more experience with the lens

Definitely something off about your 24 then. Stopped down to f/2.8 is stopping down a significant amount, especially for a prime like the 24 or even 50 1.4m, 85 1.8.

As far as your shooting, you can do some creative shots, but it definitely has its limitation as its a wide lens, so you have to do a lot of full body shots. A few up close you can do, if you do it right, but you definitely want to use another lens with it if you do a full shoot.

[dkspook]

I've had the 17-50 and it is a gem. But your 24 should definitely blow it away when it comes to sharpness, contrast, colors and bokeh.

Heres my sons eyes at F/2.0, a crop from this shot (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dk_spook/2929554380/in/set-72157607698321986/):
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2933710399_680b62410b.jpg

I have a few wide open examples as well, here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dk_spook/2911233145/sizes/l/in/set-72157607698321986/) and here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dk_spook/2909503265/sizes/l/in/set-72157607698321986/).

At F/2.8, the Tammy can't hold a candle to it. Get your 24 serviced, it will be worth the expense!

[str8addicted]

Definitely something off about your 24 then. Stopped down to f/2.8 is stopping down a significant amount, especially for a prime like the 24 or even 50 1.4m, 85 1.8.

As far as your shooting, you can do some creative shots, but it definitely has its limitation as its a wide lens, so you have to do a lot of full body shots. A few up close you can do, if you do it right, but you definitely want to use another lens with it if you do a full shoot.

thanx for the input.... i'm going to look into getting the 24mm serviced

I've had the 17-50 and it is a gem. But your 24 should definitely blow it away when it comes to sharpness, contrast, colors and bokeh.

Heres my sons eyes at F/2.0, a crop from this shot (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dk_spook/2929554380/in/set-72157607698321986/):
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2933710399_680b62410b.jpg

I have a few wide open examples as well, here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dk_spook/2911233145/sizes/l/in/set-72157607698321986/) and here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dk_spook/2909503265/sizes/l/in/set-72157607698321986/).

At F/2.8, the Tammy can't hold a candle to it. Get your 24 serviced, it will be worth the expense!
nice work... i never even consider using my Tammy below F5 i guess thats why i get such good results with it and why i wanted another lens for low light shooting... i'll look into getting the 24mm serviced cuz i expected a lot more from it but i really need to give it a a full go thats why i wanted to get feedback to make sure it wasn't user error

[grego]

thanx for the input.... i'm going to look into getting the 24mm serviced


Good.

As far as two lens, on a crop camera, a 24 (properly working) + 50 would be a good set for a shoot with some lights. I just got my 24, but now that I think about it, I think I might do that for my next indoor shoot. :)

[str8addicted]

1/200 f1.8 iso 800 no flash. i focused on the "R" this is straight out of the camera
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/Str8addicted/IMG_9631.jpg

[BrianMC]

Here is a shot with my new 24 II lens...I'm very happy with it :D

[jwcdds]

Here is a shot with my new 24 II lens...I'm very happy with it :D

Haha... there's a 24L II archive that's begging for photos.

Looks like the image was sharpened by a bit? There seems to be some artifacts on the outline of the face as well as the fingers on the right hand.

[grego]

1/200 f1.8 iso 800 no flash. i focused on the "R" this is straight out of the camera
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/Str8addicted/IMG_9631.jpg

Looks pretty good.

[JC4]

Could have used the extra blade on the 24L mk-II for this one :)

Delta IV Heavy launch, on 1/17/09. 4.75 minute exposure, at f/14.

http://johncaputo.smugmug.com/photos/456615288_ibY25-L-2.jpg

[1downfall]

Could have used the extra blade on the 24L mk-II for this one :)

Delta IV Heavy launch, on 1/17/09. 4.75 minute exposure, at f/14.

http://johncaputo.smugmug.com/photos/456615288_ibY25-L-1.jpg
WOW!! 4 min exposure........nice capture!

[Ob Com]

theres life in the old girl yet:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3533/3242415102_a054e7c68e_o.jpg

[Ob Com]

Just got a second copy of this lens because the first one was front focusing. this copy is much better that the first and is def a keeper. Really sharp and great contrast:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3463/3245275718_3613a8431c_o.jpg

[echo]

Just got a second copy of this lens because the first one was front focusing. this copy is much better that the first and is def a keeper. Really sharp and great contrast:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3463/3245275718_3613a8431c_o.jpg

Crikey, that's Bexhill??? :)

[Ob Com]

Hiya

Yup, Bexhill in the freezing cold yesterday afternoon :D

[echo]

Hiya

Yup, Bexhill in the freezing cold yesterday afternoon :D

Nothing better than a British seaside in the middle of Winter :)

[Ob Com]

^ Its amazing how many people spotted that this was the pavillion at Bexhill Echo.

No wonder I had to sign a release:D

[jwcdds]

"This plate was laid by the mayor of Bexhill..." yadda yadda. ;)

Just means your current copy of the 24L is sharp enough. :lol:

[Ob Com]

LOL! DOH!

Missed that completley:D

I am pleased with this new copy JWC. Bexhill picture is wide open.

[echo]

"This plate was laid by the mayor of Bexhill..." yadda yadda. ;)

Just means your current copy of the 24L is sharp enough. :lol:

I've stood on that spot enough times so I didn't need to read the plate - Wifey comes from there.

Anyway, here's my first official duck shot taken with my 24L :)

http://recordproduction.smugmug.com/photos/465827015_b3ByY-X2.jpg

Mike

PS. In the spirit of the recent posts, I invite guesses about this location :D

[TheGreatDivorce]

PS. In the spirit of the recent posts, I invite guesses about this location :D

England!

Sweet, what do I win? ;)

[GMCPhotographics]

It can't be England...there's no snow.

[echo]

My first studio shoot with 24L

http://recordproduction.smugmug.com/photos/468796730_ZVmoj-XL.jpg
f/2.0 on 5D2

[airfrogusmc]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/Road/IMG_36922.jpg

[airfrogusmc]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_3679-1.jpg

[airfrogusmc]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/Road/IMG_3725.jpg

[Ob Com]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3343/3266775386_47f0a82d08_o.jpg

[jwcdds]

Nice shot, Ob. *sigh* I miss my 24L.

Adorama sends me an e-mail apologizing for the 2+ weeks of wait time for the 24Lii. Still don't have it in yet. Makes me a sad panda. :(

[Ob Com]

^ cheers JWC.

I feel your pain ;)

I was very tempted to wait for the mark II when I had to exchange my first copy of the mark I, but I couldnt be without this lens.

However, I am convinced the new version will be spectacular and look forward to seeing your photos with it :)

[HelenOster]

Nice shot, Ob. *sigh* I miss my 24L.

Adorama sends me an e-mail apologizing for the 2+ weeks of wait time for the 24Lii. Still don't have it in yet. Makes me a sad panda. :(


Do you want to drop me an email, with your order number, and I'll see if I can find out anything more definite, for you?

Sincerely

Helen Oster
Adorama Camera Customer Service Ambassador

helen.oster@adoramacamera.com
www.adoramacamera.com

[Double Negative]

^ Wow! Good to see Adorama making the rounds.

[-g-]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3406/3274532816_b978bac089_o.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff44/genodm/Architecture/IMG_9645-Edit.jpg

[HelenOster]

^ Wow! Good to see Adorama making the rounds.

I do my best - but it's always better to contact me directly: helen.oster@adoramacamera.com (helen.oster@adoramacamera.com), that way I'm certain of picking up order queries like this (I try to check into over 400 sites, blogs and forums each week, but I'm sure I miss some!)

Sincerely

Helen Oster
Adorama Camera Customer Service Ambassador


www.adoramacamera.com

[jwcdds]

Sadly, though by no fault of Helen nor Adorama, my situation cannot be helped. My 24Lii's fate is in the Canon god's hands now. I'm closing in on 1month back-order/wait-list.

*plays the world's smallest fiddle*

[rcaq]

anyone got 1.3x /1d shots with some bokeh?

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anyone got 1.3x /1d shots with some bokeh?

Probably not what you're looking for but...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3273/2948035025_d125e514d8_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3425/3200175395_dd9c343db1_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/2944493618_5858761128_o.jpg

[echo]

A snap taken wide open on 5D2 - f/1.4

http://recordproduction.smugmug.com/photos/475427483_eP7AK-XL.jpg

[Ob Com]

24MkI 5D f1.6

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3480/3292720368_1ce9c9459b_o.jpg

[airfrogusmc]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/35Napierkowski.jpg

[Soulcies]

http://images45.fotki.com/v1431/photos/9/692089/7238536/HEART027-vi.jpg

http://images45.fotki.com/v1450/photos/9/692089/7238536/HEART048-vi.jpg

[GMCPhotographics]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/35Napierkowski.jpg

Nice pic but that Bokeh isn't lighting my fire. It's a little harsh and it's roll off isn't thrilling. It's increased DOF over the 35L isn't thrilling either.

[wimg]

Nice pic but that Bokeh isn't lighting my fire. It's a little harsh and it's roll off isn't thrilling. It's increased DOF over the 35L isn't thrilling either.
Personally, I don't agree. I think that for a 24 it is very, very good, even in this picture with difficult subjects in the background. Increase in DoF is all relative, I think it is also about rendering, and IMO, the rendering of the 24L is better than that of the 35L, more like 50L and 85L in quality. The 35L somehow looks different to me.

But that is my opinion of course :D.

Kind regards, Wim

[GMCPhotographics]

Actually I'd say it's the other way around, the 24L has is own look where as the 35L, 50L, 85L and 135L have a common look to them when used wide open. The 24IIL seems to address this somewhat. A 24mm is never going to have a thin DOF due to it's focal length. What this lens offers is a 2 stop advantage over a 24-70/2.8L but I can seen no real creative dirve for this lens.
What doesn't help this particular shot is that it was taken at f2 and not f1.4.

[nazdravanul]

Actually I'd say it's the other way around, the 24L has is own look where as the 35L, 50L, 85L and 135L have a common look to them when used wide open. The 24IIL seems to address this somewhat. A 24mm is never going to have a thin DOF due to it's focal length. What this lens offers is a 2 stop advantage over a 24-70/2.8L but I can seen no real creative dirve for this lens.
What doesn't help this particular shot is that it was taken at f2 and not f1.4.

This is totally not true. The 35, 50 , 85 and 135 look soooo different used wide open. I've owned and used all 4 extensively (still own 3, the 35 is gone), and I also had a 24 1.4 m1 (my mk2 should be here any day, now :) ). The 24 is also a different beast, and I suggest you shoot the 24 wide open at MFD before talking about thin DOF. Also I suggest you revisit basic DOF notions, as FL is only one of it's 3 critical determining factors, the other two being aperture ( f stop ) and focusing distance.

[GMCPhotographics]

>Sigh< Please accept that some people's observations when using this lens are different to thers. Personally, I don't like the look of the 24L, especially for portraiture. Sure up real close with small objects it gets quite funky. If I wanted to shoot macro, it wouldn't be me lens of choice for commercial work either. For every thing else, It does produce different results to the other primes when shot wide open. If you get a simular look, then good for you bud. But Please don't patronise me...I know about DOF....there is a world of difference between real world use and looking at charts. I have also used 24L and a 35L. I also shot enough weddings last year with a 50/1.4, 16-35IIL, 24-70/2.8, 85IIL and a 135L to know what they produce. The 24L (for what I shoot) has little benefit over a 16-35IIL or a 24-70L. If anything, I'd say that the 24-70L carries the same trademark soft vignette, corner softness, colour repoduction, and micro contrast than make the 135L and 85L images look so sweet. I don't see any of that trade mark with the 24L images.

How about providing some images of your own to justify your statements? Show me a few pics where the 24L produces better bokeh and look to a simular 35L shot?

[-g-]

Personally, I don't like the look of the 24L,

So why would you go into a thread dedicated to it and slag it unless you were looking to stir up an arguement or a fight? I'd suggest everyone ignore your posts and leave you to your own opinion.

[nazdravanul]

>Sigh< Please accept that some people's observations when using this lens are different to thers. Personally, I don't like the look of the 24L, especially for portraiture. Sure up real close with small objects it gets quite funky. If I wanted to shoot macro, it wouldn't be me lens of choice for commercial work either. For every thing else, It does produce different results to the other primes when shot wide open. If you get a simular look, then good for you bud. But Please don't patronise me...I know about DOF....there is a world of difference between real world use and looking at charts. I have also used 24L and a 35L. I also shot enough weddings last year with a 50/1.4, 16-35IIL, 24-70/2.8, 85IIL and a 135L to know what they produce. The 24L (for what I shoot) has little benefit over a 16-35IIL or a 24-70L. If anything, I'd say that the 24-70L carries the same trademark soft vignette, corner softness, colour repoduction, and micro contrast than make the 135L and 85L images look so sweet. I don't see any of that trade mark with the 24L images.

How about providing some images of your own to justify your statements? Show me a few pics where the 24L produces better bokeh and look to a simular 35L shot?

Please try to actually READ AND UNDERSTAND my post before replying.
I never raised any of the issues you are currently talking about, concerning 24 L vs the others. You are simply ranting over nothing.
I just tried to correct, on a neutral basis, some gross mistakes you were making in your previous post. I highlighted those mistakes in blue, for you, so you can easily understand what I'm talking about. Please try again.

[timnosenzo]

If anything, I'd say that the 24-70L carries the same trademark soft vignette, corner softness, colour repoduction, and micro contrast than make the 135L and 85L images look so sweet. I don't see any of that trade mark with the 24L images.

The 24-70? Compared to the 85L & 135L? Seriously? Man, I couldn't disagree any more with your observations. Flat out, totally disagree, and I have used all of the lenses you're referencing extensively... and the only one I don't have now and I would never want again is the 24-70. I had the 24L MKI and 35L for quite some time, and I always considered them very closely matched in IQ.

[GMCPhotographics]

I'm just stating my opinion about the 24L and i seem to have upset you guys. This triade started because i dared to say that the 24L had a look "all of it's own".
Yeah Genodm, lift a line out of context..."for Portraits...I don't care for it's look much" which is very different to the portion of my post that you quoted.
I'm happy to leave this thread, I'm here because I like to keep tabs on your pictures...but if this is a thread that's getting all tribal because I dared to say that for environmental portraiture I prefer a 35L or that the 24L exhibits a harsher Bokeh and less flattering DOF compared to a 35L then yes...may i will leave this thread.
if the latter is true then this thread has become the home of forum trolls, instead of a fantastic bunch of guys showing their experiences and work.

[GMCPhotographics]

The 24-70? Compared to the 85L & 135L? Seriously? Man, I couldn't disagree any more with your observations. Flat out, totally disagree, and I have used all of the lenses you're referencing extensively... and the only one I don't have now and I would never want again is the 24-70. I had the 24L MKI and 35L for quite some time, and I always considered them very closely matched in IQ.

which part of my thread are you reacting to? My comment about some of the minor simularities or that I dared to relate a zoom to a prime? DOF and sharpness, they are poles apart. But there's more to a lens' optical charector than just it's sharpness.

[timnosenzo]

I'm just stating my opinion about the 24L and i seem to have upset you guys.

which part of my thread are you reacting to? My comment about some of the minor simularities or that I dared to relate a zoom to a prime? DOF and sharpness, they are poles apart. But there's more to a lens' optical charector than just it's sharpness.

Relax man, it's just a discussion.

You stated that you feel the 24L lacks characteristics found in lenses like the 35L, et al. I'm just saying that after owning both a 24L and 35L for about a year and using them quite a bit, I found their characteristics to be more similar to each other than dissimilar. I'm just stating my experience. And I personally don't see how a zoom with fickle IQ that is 2 stops slower is similar to any of the lenses you mentioned. But that's just my opinion.

[GMCPhotographics]

okokokok.....I'm relaxing man....chillin....coollin....and.....relax ;-)

I did say the same....the prime is 2 stop faster....I wasn's saying A = B, but we were commenting on the treatment that this lens offers, not it's DOF or sharpness. The discussion was about a "look" that a lens imparts to a particular image but now it's spiralled into a more genrealised comparision. Because this lens is so wide that at say 1.5m, there's not a lot to the DOF that thrills me, compared to a simularly framed image taken fro a little bit further back with a 35L. Sure if I need a 24mm with the slimmest DOF possible then this is the lens that I'd use. But at 24mm, with every thing being equal, there's quite a lot of DOF compared to other lenses.
This lens has a lot of strong points, it's now the 2nd finest 24mm ever made (the MKII steals it's crown by a smidgen). It's a small and bright little wonder that has it's own look and view on the world. Which in it's own regards is a great thing.
I wasn't saying that I hate the 24L, it's actually a lens that I like to see results from. I have no shooting requirements fro this lens but sorta wished I did.
To say a 24-70L has fickle sharpness would indicate that yours is a little softer than mine or that you have a very extream view on sharpness (which I can undersand). Mine is very sharp wide open, more so at the wider end.

[nazdravanul]

I'm just stating my opinion about the 24L and i seem to have upset you guys. This triade started because i dared to say that the 24L had a look "all of it's own".
Yeah Genodm, lift a line out of context..."for Portraits...I don't care for it's look much" which is very different to the portion of my post that you quoted.
I'm happy to leave this thread, I'm here because I like to keep tabs on your pictures...but if this is a thread that's getting all tribal because I dared to say that for environmental portraiture I prefer a 35L or that the 24L exhibits a harsher Bokeh and less flattering DOF compared to a 35L then yes...may i will leave this thread.
if the latter is true then this thread has become the home of forum trolls, instead of a fantastic bunch of guys showing their experiences and work.

Not at all. It started because of all of the other fake, ignorant, aggressive , not to the point statements you were making in your posts, last one included.
Apparently you do have a reading and comprehension problem ....

[wimg]

Actually I'd say it's the other way around, the 24L has is own look where as the 35L, 50L, 85L and 135L have a common look to them when used wide open. The 24IIL seems to address this somewhat. A 24mm is never going to have a thin DOF due to it's focal length. What this lens offers is a 2 stop advantage over a 24-70/2.8L but I can seen no real creative dirve for this lens.
What doesn't help this particular shot is that it was taken at f2 and not f1.4.
What I am really trying to say, is that
a) creative drive depends on the individual photographer, not the lens, so saying that a 24 F/1.4 has no real creative drive over a 24-70 is a non-starter. I could say the same about the 24-70, if I wanted to, but that would only be valid for me, not necessarily for someone else. I have tried a 24-70 for a week or so, and I just didn't like it, for a variety of reasons. I do like the 24L.
b) IMO (note that IMO), the 24L is closer in rendition to the 50L and 85L (II) than the 35L, to me it actually is very similar, and I'll stick to that with regard to my own most common shooting cicumstances for the 24L, 50L and 85L II, i.e., low light. The rendition of high iso low light shots, when corrected for white balance, is very similar to the 50L and 85L II, and the 35L is different, or takes a lot of work to get the same. That is my experience. Yes, I did shoot with a 35L.
c) Whether at F/2 or F/1.4 is not what matters. Have another look at the way OOF is rendered. It is amazing for a 24 mm lens. Yes, obviously DoF will be more than with a longer lens, but bokeh is about the OOF background and foreground, not about the sharp bits. Canon makes at least two 24s with very good bokeh, and the 24L is one of them, the TS-E 24L is another. Oh wait, there are 3 now. There also is the 24L II :D. Try the 24L in difficult circumstances, and you'll be amazed at how good the bokeh is.
d) Your personal experience is not necessarily the absolute truth, but to me that is how you seem to put it. I think everybody works diferently, and may well get different results. They are all valid, IMO.

Kind regards, Wim

[wimg]

I'm just stating my opinion about the 24L and i seem to have upset you guys. This triade started because i dared to say that the 24L had a look "all of it's own".
Yeah Genodm, lift a line out of context..."for Portraits...I don't care for it's look much" which is very different to the portion of my post that you quoted.
I'm happy to leave this thread, I'm here because I like to keep tabs on your pictures...but if this is a thread that's getting all tribal because I dared to say that for environmental portraiture I prefer a 35L or that the 24L exhibits a harsher Bokeh and less flattering DOF compared to a 35L then yes...may i will leave this thread.
if the latter is true then this thread has become the home of forum trolls, instead of a fantastic bunch of guys showing their experiences and work.
Wow. Thanks. It looks like we all are a bunch of trolls now.

As I stated in my other post, and let me state it more bluntly this time, as you managed to really upset me now, which generally takes quite some doing:
You state your preferences as if it is the absolute truth, thereby just dismissing other people's opinions and experiences, and hence implying you have no respect for anyone who hasn't got the same opinion as yours.

This is why people react vehemently, wouldn't you? That is all there is to it.

Regards, Wim

[-g-]

Personally, I don't like the look of the 24L, especially for portraiture.

Yeah Genodm, lift a line out of context..."for Portraits...I don't care for it's look much" which is very different to the portion of my post that you quoted.


Re-read what you actually typed. To me you say you don't like the look of the 24L, ESPECIALLY for portraiture. I understood that to mean you didn't like the look much for anything else either. I guess I misunderstood you.

[GMCPhotographics]

I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend either...can we all make up and hug? I'm a nice guy really!

[-g-]

I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend either...can we all make up and hug? I'm a nice guy really!

I'm not offended, just thought you were walking into a gun battle. :) I've seen your stuff and it's good. <Hugz> :lol:

[wimg]

I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend either...can we all make up and hug? I'm a nice guy really!
I wasn't offended, but upset. I had calmed down already - saying what's on my chest normally helps, but this post by you, and thank you for that, makes me feel good again.

So yes: hugs. :D <- big smile is back

Kindest regards, Wim

[GMCPhotographics]

Thanks bud...I've just re-read what I wrote and it really came out of my head to the keyboard wrong. I'd probably jump at half of what I wrote if I read it in another forum.

[-g-]

.

Pardon my ignorance but what's "roll off"?

[timnosenzo]

...Canon makes at least two 24s with very good bokeh, and the 24L is one of them, the TS-E 24L is another. Oh wait, there are 3 now. There also is the 24L II :D.

If the TS-E24mm II is all it's cracked up to be, there may be 4 24's with good bokeh. :)

[nazdravanul]

Lovefest all the way, guys :) .

[GMCPhotographics]

Pardon my ignorance but what's "roll off"?

It's not ignorance, just a hardly used non-scientific portrait term for DOF on a portrait subject's face. It's not a scale that's measurable but a term of how it looks. Both the 35L and 85L have a roll off that just looks so sweet. Naturally, the 35L needs to be a lot closer to get a simular effect / look. A 135L doesn't have great roll off, but it's still a great portrait lens. The 85L's roll off is just so attractive and it's one of the things that gives it's a certain look.

I picked up the term whilst having a drink with a few London based fashion photographers that were talking about their current work and favorite portrait lenses.

[wimg]

If the TS-E24mm II is all it's cracked up to be, there may be 4 24's with good bokeh. :)
I am sure it will be :D. I'd expect nothing else from Canon, considering what they have done with their latest Ls.

I really want one, but the 5D II comes first :D.

Kind regards, Wim

[h_A_Z]

Got mine 2nd-hand today. Loved it on my 40D. Works well on portraits!

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[zincozinco]

Great shots!! Im getting mine from FM next week, cant wait!!!

[rcaq]

just got mine on the 1D3 - didn't have time to get out - some straight out of the camera shots taken upon onboxing the lens ;)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3569/3330448082_a4b577bd06.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3304/3328810552_9e1e6c2461.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3304/3328033822_abf5f20ca4.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3389/3328027930_78c01f607a.jpg

[h_A_Z]

Wow those are really nice!

[zincozinco]

Nice shots!!! but they make me feel sad..... the post office have lost my package (inside the 24L from FM) it went to palma de mallorca i live in Malaga, now nobody knows where it is... BUaaahhhhhhh :( hopefully we will find it.......

[jwcdds]

Ah... Malaga. I was in the south of Spain late December 2007, Marbella/Estepona. Beautiful place.

[zincozinco]

Ah... Malaga. I was in the south of Spain late December 2007, Marbella/Estepona. Beautiful place.

I live in estepona... lots of golf and beach!

[airfrogusmc]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/Road/IMG_6049.jpg

wide open

[airfrogusmc]

It's not ignorance, just a hardly used non-scientific portrait term for DOF on a portrait subject's face. It's not a scale that's measurable but a term of how it looks. Both the 35L and 85L have a roll off that just looks so sweet. Naturally, the 35L needs to be a lot closer to get a simular effect / look. A 135L doesn't have great roll off, but it's still a great portrait lens. The 85L's roll off is just so attractive and it's one of the things that gives it's a certain look.

I picked up the term whilst having a drink with a few London based fashion photographers that were talking about their current work and favorite portrait lenses.

The 200 2L is even one step up from the 85 in that dept in my opinion.

[jwcdds]

I live in estepona... lots of golf and beach!

Nice! Come to think of it, it was December of 2006, not 2007! Wow, how time just flies!

I remember Marbella/Estepona not looking much different than southern California. :lol: I mean.. other than the Puerto Banus and its fancy yachts. :D Ah... memories.

[airfrogusmc]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_4891.jpg

Wide open with the focus on the bolt head in the center.

[ride5000]

if i had a full framer i'd be all over this lens.

[rcaq]

taken today...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3659/3362353853_e058c5b69e.jpg

[Feirny]

http://images45.fotki.com/v1431/photos/9/692089/7238536/HEART027-vi.jpg


What a wonderful shot, am I right in thinking that this is the same building featured in the TV series Gossip Girl?

[zincozinco]

It was overcast today but spring is here!! I have exagerated the blacks a bit... obviously shooyting at 1.4 as the lens is new and i cant get by the fact that it does.....

shot on the 1dmark2 so its actually 32mm

[rcaq]

hey, you finally got your package? congrats - I remember your concerns regarding the "lost " package at palma...

[zincozinco]

yeah man it was a scary experience, but the guy I bought it from "monky" at FM forums was really great and sent it a second time!!!

[echo]

Thought I'd add a few that I took recently with musician Bernard Butler - previously of Suede:

http://recordproduction.smugmug.com/photos/485746359_MLivM-XL.jpg
5D2 - 24L - f/2.8 - ISO 800 - 1/30th - handheld

http://recordproduction.smugmug.com/photos/474375479_m5qzp-XL.jpg
5D2 - 24L - f/2.5 - ISO 800 - 1/40th - handheld

http://recordproduction.smugmug.com/photos/474369729_U2YoW-XL.jpg
5D2 - 24L - f/5 - ISO 800 - 1/25th - tripod

It's with Canon being 'adjusted' at the moment as it's not quite right.

[airfrogusmc]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_3204.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_3209.jpg

[chmod]

I have not evaluated the version II, but I recently traveled with the 24 (and a 50) as my only lenses. I am very pleased with this lens and always have been. 1Ds M III, f/1.4, ISO 400

regards,
patrick

www.idyll.com (http://www.idyll.com)

http://www.idyll.com/linkage/granados.jpg

[airfrogusmc]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_6958.jpg

[airfrogusmc]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_6963.jpg

[-g-]

Nice ones, Allen!

Here's two I took today.

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff44/genodm/Photowalks/IMG_0287.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff44/genodm/Photowalks/IMG_0294.jpg