1DMKII, Share your settings...

[GenEOS]

Anyone have time to give a run down on the settings they are using?
Pekka?? Cyber?? Belendemo?? Anyone??

[CyberDyneSystems]

Well,...

Still playing.. haven't hooked it to the PC for Personal Functions yet.. o most of what I have set up is the same as I used on the 1D

Here's part of an Exif;

Metering mode: (I usually partial but depends on the circumstances)

Drive mode: Continuous (low speed)


AF mode: AI Servo AF

Image quality: Raw
White balance: Auto

Custom Functions:
CFn 2: No exposure without CF card
CFn 4-1: Shutter release: AE lock; AE button: *=AF
CFn 8: Top LCD panel: ISO, Back LCD panel: Remaining shots
CFn 13: 11 AF points, Spot metering: Active AF point
CFn 17: Auto expand AF activation area (7 or 13 AF points)
CFn 18: Assist button switches to registered AF point





FYI
Sports Illustrated's Recomended sttings (http://www.siphoto.com/?canon1DM2.inc)

[scottbergerphoto]

I'm currently using all the shooting modes and metering modes, having a good old time. Cf.4-1 + Cfn. 18-2 is sweet!
Scott

[GenEOS]

What are ya'll setting these to?

My current settings are in parenthesis

Color Space (Adobe RGB)
Saturation (0)
Sharpness (5)
Contrast (0)

I tried 3 on sharpness, but was not happy with it, out of the camera.
I am planning on boosting Saturation up to 1 and Contrast up to 1 and decreasing sharpness to 3, for my next test session.

Here is a link to some sample shots.....
http://www.sportsshooter.com/dmtunstall/1dmkii/
800ISO, 70-200 f2.8IS 1.4xTC, 1/1000 @ f4

[scottbergerphoto]

Color space: Adobe RGB
Parameters: Standard
I prefer to adjust all the other parameters in PS CS. I feel there is much more control over the final image that way.
Scott

[GenEOS]

:D Fine if you are only shooting one image. :D
I need to get a sharp, clean, well balanced color shots right out of the box.
Too many images and too little time to tweak each one.

Don't tell me I have to trade this thing in for a 1D MK I to get a sharp image out of the can.

[dan9]

Daniel:

To get the image to look "sharper" perhaps you might try either of the medium JPG images sizes. The downsampling will restore some apparent local contrast.

No, I don't have a MkII (yet) but it seems to me that the look of the MKII is distinctly (and as stated by Canon) close to that of the 10D but with a few more pixels (and less noise.) Great for many general photography purposes like portraiture, but perhaps not the best for the photojournalist.

Anyway, try the smaller JPG sizes (with various parameters chosen.)

Dan9

[Pekka]

I shoot RAW (only RAW, convert with one beta software).

Camera settings include
- assign focus to *
- assign reset to center point focus point to leftmost thumb button.
- ISO expansion off
- no focus area expansion
- shooting not possible without card
- AI servo tracking to fast.

Custom functions:

01-1 02-1 04-1 05-1 06-0 07-2 08-1
09-0 10-0 11-0 12-0 13-0 14-0 15-0
16-0 17-0 18-1 19-0 20-4 21-0 00-1

Haven't checked personal functions yet.

[skiphoto]

Hi all,

Just returned from shooting a waterski event in Nor Cal and was dismayed to say the least when viewing the first images out of the 1D Mk11. They were very underexposed and the focus was way off :cry:

I changed the settings to overexpose by between 1/3 and 2/3rds and that helped the exposure tremendously. However, I am still not overjoyed at the sharpness of the photos and will need to work it out. I usually shoot with center focus but on the 1D Mk11 I cannot seem to find a way to get the cous points to group in the center...any thoughts? I tried the single focus point but was not happy.

The images can be seen on my site at www.memoriesink.net Click on the event photographs link and then Chico. Let me know if you have any suggestions

Cheers

[garethhhhh]

the link doesn't work

*EDIT*
link working now :D

[CyberDyneSystems]

I'm havig underexposure problems as well.. but the AF is the best I've used (including the 1D)

My feeling is I am doing something wrong with the af point expansion and af point meter linking... because when it underexposes.. it is wayyyy under.. but when it is "correct" is the best I've seen!

Also.. the files right out of camera when exposed well are MUCH sharper and richer in contrast and color than anything I have seen from my 10D in a year of use... On the rare occasions I have shot in jpeg, I shoot largest size at quality setting 10. (i mean I'm allready tossing out info by going jpeg.. why compress it down to "8" as well?) Again I've shot about 90% raw though.

GenEOS try color matrix 3 and boost contrast and sharpness etc.

//otherwise my 1D is till for sale... or trade for a MkII :roll: :wink:

[scottbergerphoto]

For what it's worth, increasing contrast in the camera reduces the dynamic range available. For that reason, two camps seem to have risen, those favoring increasing contrast +1 and those favoring leaving it at 0 and adjusting in PS. I've been getting good results leaving it standard and using curves to increase contrast.
CDS, I agree on using JPEG at 10 when not shooting raw.
Scott

[CyberDyneSystems]

I agree re: leaving it to PS for curves/levels adjust as well.. However the sugestion to bump up thse parameters in Camera was for users who want zero post processing.

[PhotosGuy]

Just returned from shooting a waterski event in Nor Cal and was dismayed to say the least when viewing the first images out of the 1D Mk11. They were very underexposed and the focus was way off

I hope that the problem isn't with your new camera. On the other hand, we all live & learn - 2 things for skiphoto:

1. I'll bet that, next time, you'll check out a new cam 70 different ways before you take it somewhere to shoot, right?
2. Remember that the meter thinks it's pointing at an 18% grey subject!
Point it at white = underexposed pics.
Point it at black = overexposed pics.

:wink:

[GenEOS]

Here's a dumb question. If you set the parameters off from O's, this only effects the jpeg.....So if you shoot RAW + Large jpeg, will the changes in settings effect the jpeg or not, because you are shooting RAW.

I have been shooting RAW + L, I like the fact you don't have to extract the jpeg.

[scottbergerphoto]

Here's a dumb question. If you set the parameters off from O's, this only effects the jpeg.....So if you shoot RAW + Large jpeg, will the changes in settings effect the jpeg or not, because you are shooting RAW.

I have been shooting RAW + L, I like the fact you don't have to extract the jpeg.
It seems that the embedded JPEG is recorded with the parameters as set in the camera. The DPP software manual indicates that certain changes like white balance can only be done to the RAW file.
Scott

[CyberDyneSystems]

Here's a WIERD thing....

Even if you shoot JUST RAW... there IS an embedded jpeg!!!!! :shock: :shock:


Not a seperate file.. but an EMBEDDED jpeg that the latest version of BreezeBrowesr seems to be able to extract exclusively.. and it is HALF RES! (ie: 1500 x whatever)

Go figure?

[GenEOS]

Strange. But here is my thought. I have shot this thing with RAW+L and I can live with the file sizes for most things I shoot. I have 4.5G of CF, so with a little deletion on the fly I can still blast away like a chain gun. The camera keeps up writing short burst of 20-30 images per burst. So it is quick enough for me.
If the camera creates the jpeg with the settings I set and creates a RAW file too, I get the best of both worlds. For general usage I have a high res jpeg, for great images or images that are good but need some adjusting, I can go to the RAW and convert it with care.

The lightning pictures I posted ( http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=32234 ) in the SHARE group were the first test of this shooting procedure. It was the first "grab, run, & shoot" I have done since I got it. I happened to look outside and see what was unfolding. My camera was on the AC cord, tethered to my laptop with iEEE1394. I was quite proud I could grab it, load the battery, change the settings, format a new card and still get outside to shoot before dark set in.

But, my point is, the shot with the biggest bolt of lightening, was overexposed and blown out on the JPEG, but I had the option of going to the RAW file for a better conversion and to pull out more detail. If I had shot JPEG only, the shot would have been gone forever.

One of the things I like the best about the Mark II is the available options for shooting. It requires a lot more thought and testing than my previous body.

Right now, I am in Adobe RGB, with Sharpness at +3 and contrast at +1.
More testing to come, but this seems to be pretty good for now.

I did set the personal function for noise reduction. I can't tell a difference, or I don't understand what it is doing.

[scottbergerphoto]

I did set the personal function for noise reduction. I can't tell a difference, or I don't understand what it is doing.
It seems your not alone. Heres a long thread on the topic:
http://www.robgalbraith.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=236390&page=1&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1
Scott

[GenEOS]

I should clarify, I was talking about PF-21, "quiet operation" and not noise reduction. I have noise reduction turned off.
PF-21 did not seem to do anything.

[tony723]

I shoot RAW (only RAW, convert with one beta software).

Camera settings include
- assign focus to *
- assign reset to center point focus point to leftmost thumb button.
- ISO expansion off
- no focus area expansion
- shooting not possible without card
- AI servo tracking to fast.

Custom functions:

01-1 02-1 04-1 05-1 06-0 07-2 08-1
09-0 10-0 11-0 12-0 13-0 14-0 15-0
16-0 17-0 18-1 19-0 20-4 21-0 00-1

Haven't checked personal functions yet.
Hi Pekka,

Do you have any Mk II photos taken that can be shared?

Thanks!

[Pekka]

I shoot RAW (only RAW, convert with one beta software).

Camera settings include
- assign focus to *
- assign reset to center point focus point to leftmost thumb button.
- ISO expansion off
- no focus area expansion
- shooting not possible without card
- AI servo tracking to fast.

Custom functions:

01-1 02-1 04-1 05-1 06-0 07-2 08-1
09-0 10-0 11-0 12-0 13-0 14-0 15-0
16-0 17-0 18-1 19-0 20-4 21-0 00-1

Haven't checked personal functions yet.
Hi Pekka,

Do you have any Mk II photos taken that can be shared?

Thanks!

Yes, I'll post some very soon. Also full size ones.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Set a new CF on the MkII recently...

I shoot 70% - 80% of the time in AV,. the rest usually in manual mode.

Well by default,. in AV Mode the finger dial above the shutter is how you adjust the aperture.

However,.. In Manual mode,. this same dial adjusts the Shutter speed,. and t's the rear main dial that adjusts the aperture. :confused:

If your like me,. and use AV all the time instead of TV,. then this makes no sense to have to adjust what dial you use for aperture control when switching modes.

With the 1D MkII you can swap these dials functions,. and I did just that! :)

Now no matter what mode I am in,. the finger dial adjusts the aperture ;)

[Belmondo]

Set a new CF on the MkII recently...

I shoot 70% - 80% of the time in AV,. the rest usually in manual mode.

Well by default,. in AV Mode the finger dial above the shutter is how you adjust the aperture.

However,.. In Manual mode,. this same dial adjusts the Shutter speed,. and t's the rear main dial that adjusts the aperture. :confused:

If your like me,. and use AV all the time instead of TV,. then this makes no sense to have to adjust what dial you use for aperture control when switching modes.

With the 1D MkII you can swap these dials functions,. and I did just that! :)

Now no matter what mode I am in,. the finger dial adjusts the aperture ;)

I like that....Guess what I'm going to try next time I'm out?

[CyberDyneSystems]

It's a shame it is not availble on the 20D and other EOS digitals...

I don't have my 1D with me right now,. so I can't recall the CF number,. I will come back and edit it into the post though.

It may have even been a "Personal Function"? I'll check later tonight,. after I get home,.. after the Patriots win... ;)

[Scott J]

A couple of personal I use are as follows:

Pfn 07: set to repeat bracketing continuously in the current drive mode

Pfn 20: set to max of 6 shots in a burst. This in conjunction with Pfn07 lets me shoot off two sets of bracketed sequences.

Otherwise I disable Bulb mode and Centre weighted and partial metering -- I rarely use these but can get them back if I need to by switching off the Pfn.



Pfn 19: Continuous shooting speed set to 3fps and 5fps (sometimes I find 8fps too fast so by having Pfn 19 set to 5fps this effectively gives me 3 options 3fps, 5fps and a 8fps -- to get 8fps I just turn off Pfn19

[René Damkot]

I should clarify, I was talking about PF-21, "quiet operation" and not noise reduction. I have noise reduction turned off.
PF-21 did not seem to do anything.
If you set drive to single, the mirror flaps back when you release the shutterbutton, thus reducing noise significantly. When shooting continuous drive mode, it obviously doesn't work.

[René Damkot]

Oh. my custom settings are:
01:1; 02:1; 03:1; 04:1 or 3; 05:1; 06:0; 07:0;
08:1; 09:0; 10:2 (0 when ai servo); 11:0; 12:0; 13:1; 14:1 (on D1, still experimenting on D1Mk2);
15:1; 16:1; 17:1 (that way, it shows in the VF if the camera focussus outside the chosen AF field); 18:2; 19:0; 20:0; 00:1
PFn's i'm not sure, since my Mk2 is at Canon, being recalibrated (backfocus), but I guess its something like:
01: disable TV, Bulb
02: disable partial
10: set, then off
14: set then off
15: set then off
19: High=6fps
21: set
24: set
25: Av, jpg large, K white balance, evaluative
??: lock both dials simultaniously: set then off.

Hope this is usefull...

[CyberDyneSystems]

Oh,. I too found 8.5 FPS "too much" for pretty much all appilicatiosn.. in fact I rarely ever use a "burst" and tend to rely on timing.. but I did use the personal functions to throttle back to 5 fps....

And this becomes very helpfull with the addition of the 20D to the stable,.. now I am more prepared for the timing as both cameras run the same 5fps ;)

I wish however that the option could have been to bump up the slow speed burst from 3 to 5,.. jst to leave that 8.5 fps readily accesible.. if only so I can show off :lol:

[ChrisBlaze]

any updaetes on CF that you found useful on the IIN?

[René Damkot]

Whoa, that's a while back ;)

Still on the Mk2 (not N) though.

Not too much changed here. CFn 17-1 became 17-0 lately, since 17-1 gave me focus on not quite the subject with AiServo... (unlike One Shot, the focus point is always automatically expanded, regardless of FL)

CFn 10-0 and 14-0; 21-0.

Quite a few additions / changes to the PFn however.

Also set some PFn, then set them off on camera. That way I have them avialiable when I need them, without needing a mac and FW...

PFn's
01: same
02: disable partial and average
03: specified: partial
05: f/18
06; set, then off
07: set, then off
08: 3 shots
09: set: +0- then off
10: set
14: stayed the same
15: stayed the same
17: set, then off
18: set, then off
19: high= 6 fps, (I think this one gets switched on/off most often)
21: stayed the same
23: 6 sec to 2 sec; 16 sec to 30 sec, post shoot to 2 sec.
24: stayed the same
25: P, eval, RAW, One shot AF, single, AWB
27: QCD only, set off
30: set.

[ChrisBlaze]

Whoa, that's a while back ;)

Still on the Mk2 (not N) though.

Not too much changed here. CFn 17-1 became 17-0 lately, since 17-1 gave me focus on not quite the subject with AiServo... (unlike One Shot, the focus point is always automatically expanded, regardless of FL)

CFn 10-0 and 14-0; 21-0.

Quite a few additions / changes to the PFn however.

Also set some PFn, then set them off on camera. That way I have them avialiable when I need them, without needing a mac and FW...

PFn's
01: same
02: disable partial and average
03: specified: partial
05: f/18
06; set, then off
07: set, then off
08: 3 shots
09: set: +0- then off
10: set
14: stayed the same
15: stayed the same
17: set, then off
18: set, then off
19: high= 6 fps, (I think this one gets switched on/off most often)
21: stayed the same
23: 6 sec to 2 sec; 16 sec to 30 sec, post shoot to 2 sec.
24: stayed the same
25: P, eval, RAW, One shot AF, single, AWB
27: QCD only, set off
30: set.

what type of shooting do you do?

[René Damkot]

Advertising (Packshots, clothing (not 'high fashion'), people, a little bit of everything else), Performing Arts.

[ChrisBlaze]

interesting, I just got my DIIN and right now everything is on Default execpt CF4-3, I dont know what lot of the setting are so I keep them on default.

[René Damkot]

I've found this (http://photoworkshop.com/canon/EOS_Digital.pdf) pdf *very* helpfull. There is also a quick reference guide here (http://photoworkshop.com/canon/EOS_Digital_Ref.pdf)

[ChrisBlaze]

Thanks for the info!

[ChrisBlaze]

I still dont understand CF 17 and 19

17 - expands the active area around manually selected focusing points. Isnt the point of shooting manual is to to control what you focus on?

19 - adds AF control features to compatible EF lenses. doesnt all lenses have AF control?

[René Damkot]

CFn 17 is kind of a 'tiny Auto AF point selection'. If the chosen AF point has too little contrast to focus, it will pick one (or two, depending on CFn 17, AF settings and focal lenght) of the surrounding AF points.
It caused me some OoF images by focussing on a cheek or microphone instead of an eye for example. (thread here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=291202&highlight=CFn+17),thanks PacAce)
Some other threads about CFn 17, and trouble with it: 1 (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=128576&page=2&highlight=CFn+17) and 2 (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=190130&highlight=CFn+17).
I don't use CFn 19, since I don't have the long lenses that feature an AF stop button. (I think that's 400mm and up, so in that case, neither do you)

[ChrisBlaze]

CFn 17 is kind of a 'tiny Auto AF point selection'. If the chosen AF point has too little contrast to focus, it will pick one (or two, depending on CFn 17, AF settings and focal lenght) of the surrounding AF points.
It caused me some OoF images by focussing on a cheek or microphone instead of an eye for example. (thread here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=291202&highlight=CFn+17),thanks PacAce)
Some other threads about CFn 17, and trouble with it: 1 (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=128576&page=2&highlight=CFn+17) and 2 (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=190130&highlight=CFn+17).
I don't use CFn 19, since I don't have the long lenses that feature an AF stop button. (I think that's 400mm and up, so in that case, neither do you)

ahh thank you very much.

[Lani Kai]

I wish however that the option could have been to bump up the slow speed burst from 3 to 5,.. jst to leave that 8.5 fps readily accesible.. if only so I can show off :lol:
The 1D MkIIN allows for that. Time to upgrade!

[r300f28]

Can someone explain to me how CF 4.1 works and how to use it while shooting?

[Poindexter]

CFn 17 is kind of a 'tiny Auto AF point selection'. If the chosen AF point has too little contrast to focus, it will pick one (or two, depending on CFn 17, AF settings and focal lenght) of the surrounding AF points.
It caused me some OoF images by focussing on a cheek or microphone instead of an eye for example. (thread here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=291202&highlight=CFn+17),thanks PacAce)
Some other threads about CFn 17, and trouble with it: 1 (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=128576&page=2&highlight=CFn+17) and 2 (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=190130&highlight=CFn+17).
I don't use CFn 19, since I don't have the long lenses that feature an AF stop button. (I think that's 400mm and up, so in that case, neither do you)


Thanks for your post - very helpful!

[René Damkot]

Can someone explain to me how CF 4.1 works and how to use it while shooting?

Whole thread about it here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=46965)....

[CyberDyneSystems]

The 1D MkIIN allows for that. Time to upgrade!

When I posted way back then, I was unaware that you can turn the PF functions on or off after they are set by simply using the menu..

So now I have four speed options, the defaults, and the low and high that I have set... :)