Powershot Pro1 + 250D

[oneironaut]

Hi everybody


Does anyone have experience on using pro1 with LA-DC58C conversion lens adapter and 250D close-up lens?

I'm considering to buy 500D or 250D close-up lens. I just have to know which one is better. I would have a need for the closer focus distance of 250D.

I'm just wondering whether with 250D the image quality is at least on the same level than the quality with 500D. I already have the conversion lens adapter and I will attach a close-up lens directly to it. So nothing of other possible solutions are not welcome.


Could somebody answer these questions? thanks!


Sorry about my bad English :-(

[EricvZ]

:-D Haai oneironaut,
I have no experience with your cam and 250D,
but IMO the 250D isn't any better or gives you more then the +4 diopter from Hoya.
The Hoya set of diopters for +1,+2 and +4 costs app. $43.95 (... approx. 1/3 to 1/2 the price of the 250D .. ).
You can stack them all 3 and get +7 together.
Hoya also have a diopter of +10 for $69.95

See also the site from Lensmate to get an idea :
http://www.lensmateonline.com/buy.html

There is also a link to photo-comparison :
http://www.lensmateonline.com/G3G5macrocomp.html

I use the Hoya set myself with my G3 and must say i am very satisfied with my pictures. Take a look in my gallery if you like.

[oneironaut]

Thanks for your advice EricvZ

I know that there are those cheap lenses, but I think that the quality isn't enough good for Canon L lenses. Maybe I'm wrong about it. Anyway - I'm now asking for experiences of 250D close-up. If those are very negative then I'm going to buy one of those cheap lenses.

[cas]

hi oneironaut,

I don't have experiences with the 250D or a 500D, but if you want to see examples of them with a Canon Pro 1 then take a look at this website.

http://www.achatzi.kreativ-foto.com/

There is also an alternative, the firm Zoerk offers a special lens, the Zoerk Macroskope, with +12 diopter. There are pictures made with a G2 in combination with the Zoerk Macroskope lens on the same site.

On my Canon G3 I use this lens and I'm very happy with it!!

[John_T]

I do have the 250D and the 500D, a G5 and a Pro1.

These Canon lenses are of top quality and are applicable for these two cameras and the EOS DSLRs too. When you see one you will better understand it's price. Both of these lenses are multi-element lenses with high quality glass good enough to be used with "L" lenses. The price isn't just for the name on the lens.

The 500D is meant for the shorter lens range, 50mm to 135mm, such as the G5, and is excellent with this camera.

The 250D is meant for longer lens ranges, 70mm to 300mm, such as the Pro 1, and gives outstanding closeups with this camera. You will see in the Pro1 Menu > Converter> 500D, and believe me, it's the right one.

These closeup lenses are matched to the appropriate lenses and when used on the right camera give no distortion or CA. For various reasons they cannot be successfully used interchangeably, I have tried it.

[eric1]

i think John_T ment the 250D is for shorter focal legnths up to 135, and
the 500D is for 135-300. i use the Hoya stack, or my 105 macro lens.

thanks,
eric1

[John_T]

Right Eric, I got it twisted up there. The confusing thing is that the 250D is about double the strength of the 500D, so therefore is right for the shorter lengths, while much too much for the longer lengths.

Many people think "Oh boy! Stronger is better!" NOpe, you just get edge distotrion and a thin DOF.

The 500D with the Pro1 gives you more working distance and a deeper DOF than Macro or Super Macro.

[Phillip]

Hi John.

Could you post some example shots taken with the Pro1 & the 500D?

I own a Pro1 & am contemplating on purchasing the 500D. but as yet I have not seen any good samples taken with the 500D on this camera.

Phillip

[John_T]

I think I posted a couple on this forum a while ago Phillip, think my avatar was one of them, but I don't find them right off the bat, nor can I distinguish those as 500D on my HDs without taking some time at it. I'd make some for you right now, but I'm just about to shut down for a total upgrade of my computer right now. Not sure when I will be back up, but I'll take this up when I come back.

As for the 500D, it is substantially better than the normal macro and the super macro. It, and the 250D are lenses that can be carried forward to any EOS, so in that sense they are a good investment. Glad I got them. You certainly won't regret it if you do. Can't comment on the Hoyas or other closeup lenses because you really have to try them side by side to get the whole story.

[oneironaut]

Thanks for all of you!

It's still hard to decide which one is better for me. Anyway, I think I won't buy those cheap lenses.

I would need shorter focus distance provided by a 250D close-up lens. I'm not sure but it seems that the DOF is okay ( http://www.kreativ-foto.com/Pro1/Pro1-Gal.html ). I don't photograph so 'multi-dimensional' objects that it would bother. And of course I will use the conversion lens adapter.

I want to take only macro photos which have background faded. But I suppose that it's possible with 500D also?

BTW what is the closest focusing distance of 500D. In Pro1 Manual it's said to be 33 centimeters. But when I asked from Finnish Canon they said it is 50 cm.