What printers print Adobe RGB

[jens1204@earthlink.net]

I have been trying to figure out what types of photo printers actually print in adobe RGB. It is my understanding that most print in srgb. Also what is it that only a few types of printers can handleAdobe RGB? I am currently sending my work to a Nuritsu machine that only does srgb and an AGFA machine which I do not know what it can handle.

[Roger_Cavanagh]

I have been trying to figure out what types of photo printers actually print in adobe RGB. It is my understanding that most print in srgb. Also what is it that only a few types of printers can handleAdobe RGB? I am currently sending my work to a Nuritsu machine that only does srgb and an AGFA machine which I do not know what it can handle.

Jens,

It's not that printers print in Adobe RGB or sRGB that you need to consider. Many printers - desktop and commercial - can print colours that are outside the gamut of both colour spaces, althoug overall print spaces may be smaller than sRGB.

You should try to obtain print profiles for the printer/paper combos that you use.

Regards,

[picnic]

I print from my Adobe 1998 RGB files--from either Photoshop or Qimage. In fact, because of the wider gamut of this color space (which is my preferred work space for PS), I feel that it sometimes improves prints.

However, my monitor is profiled, I softproof my images using an appropriate paper profile and then print from that file. I use color management the whole way through and my prints match my monitor (softproofed) extremely well.

Here is a good URL to help you understand--actually two.
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps8-colour/ps8_1.htm
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps7_print/ps7_print_mac.htm

Hope this helps.

Diane

[w10d]

Following on from what has already been said - it's worth remembering that Adobe RGB is a 'working colour space' rather than a device profile. In reality very few monitors can reproduce the full gamut of Adobe RGB, let alone printers.

[Jesper]

Jens,

There are two types of ICC color profiles - device-dependent profiles and device-independent profiles.

A device-dependent profile is a description of how a particular device renders colors (printer, monitor) or sees colors (scanner, camera). It describes the native color space of that particular device.

There are a number of device-independent color spaces, such as sRGB and Adobe RGB, which do not describe the color space of any particular device - they are just standard color spaces to make it easy to exchange images from one application to the other. You should choose one of the device-independent color spaces as your working space in Photoshop.

If you print an image, you need to tell Photoshop what the ICC profile is for your printer / paper / ink combination. Photoshop's color management system will then be able to translate the colors from the standard color space (Adobe RGB, for example) to the printer's native color space, so that what comes out of your printer closely matches what the colors should be.

There are no monitors and printers which have a native color space that is exactly the same as sRGB or Adobe RGB. If someone says a printer is an "sRGB printer", what (s)he means is, the printer (or the printer driver) expects an sRGB image as input and it converts the image to its native color space by itself. It doesn't mean the printer is capable of printing the entire gamut of sRGB.

(p.s. this question belongs in the Post processing and printing forum).

[Pef]

The HP7960 can use AdobeRGB space color internally.
This is a very nice printer with black & white capabilities.