Why Two Types of Storage in the Mark II?

[Mike H]

I noticed that Canon put two types of storage card into the Mark II. What's the advantage of having two types? I would rather carry around either one type or the other. Thanks.

Mike

[defordphoto]

You don't have to carry around two different types of cards. This verifies the trend that the technology will probably shift from CFs to SDs as they are smaller, faster and have the capability for more memory than CFs.

[robertwgross]

Why don't we go back to eight-inch floppy disks for storage?

---Bob Gross---

[CoolToolGuy]

Why don't we go back to eight-inch floppy disks for storage?

---Bob Gross---

God,Bob, weren't the Mavicas with the 3 1/4" floppies ugly enough? :shock:

[CoolToolGuy]

Seriously, does any of this have to do with the law-enforcement capability to verify that the image is uncorrupted/unmodified? If memory serves, that requires the use of both slots.

[Mike H]

Thanks, Jim. That makes sense ... they've given you a choice, and you can still use your older CF cards even if you're moving to the new standard already.

I'm laughing over people getting so upset that the camera doesn't go from one card to the other automatically. Yes, it would have been better that way, and perhaps Canon will fix that with a firmware upgrade. And yes, I realize that this would have been a great boon to sports shooters. It definitely was an opportunity missed. But I can't help reminding folks that just a short time ago we were all changing rolls everything 36 shots! :D

Let's hope that firmware upgrade comes before someone misses a shot over it! Thanks again.

Mike

[CyberDyneSystems]

Seriously, does any of this have to do with the law-enforcement capability to verify that the image is uncorrupted/unmodified? If memory serves, that requires the use of both slots.

Yes!

The inherent "secure" aspects of the SD card will make the MkII images useable in a court of law. (which thus far has not been the case for digital) I understand that there is a software package that is required.

[defordphoto]

Seriously, does any of this have to do with the law-enforcement capability to verify that the image is uncorrupted/unmodified? If memory serves, that requires the use of both slots.

Yes!

The inherent "secure" aspects of the SD card will make the MkII images useable in a court of law. (which thus far has not been the case for digital) I understand that there is a software package that is required.

That is correct. There is verification software you buy for that purpose.

[defordphoto]

I'm laughing over people getting so upset that the camera doesn't go from one card to the other automatically. Yes, it would have been better that way, and perhaps Canon will fix that with a firmware upgrade. And yes, I realize that this would have been a great boon to sports shooters. It definitely was an opportunity missed. But I can't help reminding folks that just a short time ago we were all changing rolls everything 36 shots! :D

Let's hope that firmware upgrade comes before someone misses a shot over it! Thanks again.

Mike

I understand why the complaint, but I'm sure Canon had a good reason behind it. Maybe Chuck can answer that over at Galbraith's forum. The biggest issue with the camera seems to be the vertical shutter button.

But, there will always be someone that won't like something about anything. If you gave people free thousand dollar bills they'd complain because their bill was dirty, or wrinkled, or felt funny, or the wrong color, or....

[dn7elson]

If you gave people free thousand dollar bills they'd complain because their bill was dirty, or wrinkled, or felt funny, or the wrong color

Yeah....you know, Silver vs. Black :lol: :oops: :lol:

[CyberDyneSystems]

Laugh all you want!

I allready lost shots over it.. TWICE in a row (well in about 90 minutes) :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ask Scottes.. he was there with me.. when we were shooting the Osprey dives.. on two seperate occasions.. twice I was shotting at 5fps chasing an Osprey in a dive and on both instances I got "Card full" just as the Osprey hit the water!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Some kind of record for bad CF card timing! I don't think I've ever had it happen before quite like that! :shock:

..(then again I've never had a shoting rate that would fill a CF so fast! :shock: )

[defordphoto]

Sounds like CDS is using the MKII as a photographic Uzi! We need to take up a collection for some 8gig cards for him! :lol:

[CyberDyneSystems]

Sounds like CDS is using the MKII as a photographic Uzi! ... :lol:

Yep.. "spray and pray" :lol:

The choice of photographers who's camera outstrips there own ability :?

[Jon Borcik]

Why don't we go back to eight-inch floppy disks for storage?

---Bob Gross---

Actually I thought paper tape was more secure and accurate!
HAHAHAHHAHA
:twisted:

[Mike H]

Okay, now I'm convinced that having two cards in the camera at the same time is a good thing, even if you aren't creating a simultaneous backup.

So how do you tell the camera to change cards? CDS indicates that it takes several steps. Anyone care to share the sequence (so I can start practicing in my head while I'm watching for the UPS guy)? Thanks.

Mike

[defordphoto]

Sounds like CDS is using the MKII as a photographic Uzi! ... :lol:

Yep.. "spray and pray" :lol:

The choice of photographers who's camera outstrips there own ability :?

:lol:

Well, it's certainly nice to have that option!

[CyberDyneSystems]

Okay, now I'm convinced that having two cards in the camera at the same time is a good thing, even if you aren't creating a simlutaneous backup.

So how do you tell the camera to change cards? CDS indicates that it takes several steps. Anyone care to share the sequence (so I can start practicing in my head while I'm watching for the UPS guy)? Thanks.

Mike

I tdies take several steps.. but FYI you CAN set it to write to both cards simultaeniously for a daul card poor man's RAID with flash cards! :)

To change the card being used for writing;

1. Press and hold down the "display" button (display has FIVE different functions)

2. While holding "display" use the wheel to select one of the five functions.. in this case select "folders"

3. Once the "folder" menu is up, then you need to press the "card" button.

4. Pressing the card button highlights the card in use.. spin the main wheel to select the other card.

Now you are ready to use the second card.

What's really silly about this is that the "card" button is not used for anything else except for using as a sort of "shift" key to get the LCD screen magnification buttons to function.. So really.. there is no reason at all that steps 1 and two are neccesary.. we should be able to just hit the "card" button and spin the wheel.. the smaller LCD onm the back of the camera allready has a "card" Icon for both cards.. we don't need to delve into the main menu with the "display" button to see what card we are selecting.... at least two extra steps involved that don't need to be.

To shoot to both cards simultaeneously.. there is a "back up" function in the menu... this is a lot easier to get to.

[blackviolet]

Sounds like CDS is using the MKII as a photographic Uzi!

i know what you're thinking - did he shoot 20 frames, or only 19? well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement i've kinda lost track myself. but being as this is a 1D mk II - the most powerful DSLR in the world, and would burst through an Osprey's full dive, you've got to ask yourself a question: do you feel lucky?

well, do ya CDS?

[PaulB]

blackviolet,
Love it.
Wish I'd thought of that myself..........

Seriously though, as I understand it, the MkII has the SD card slot for two reasons:
1. For the verification function so the images can be used as forensic evidence

2. Canon couldn't fit a second CF card slot in without a total redesign of that end of the body - don't forget that the cards go in from the back on the 1D and MkII.
On the 10D the card goes in from the end and there does appear to be enough room for a second card slot on that body (perhaps on the next one we will see two CF card slots or a CF and an SD like on big brother).

[blackviolet]

paul - check the write speeds of sd media on robgalbraith's performance database - most impressive :shock:

i wouldn't be too suprised if the mkiii (or whatever it is called) has only sd cards


...and no, i'm not starting a rumour...

[Mike H]

CDS, thanks for taking the time to explain that sequence. That was a lot of typing, which is bad news for those planning to do it for real. I hope this is one of those things that's easier to do than explain!

Since someone else already started it, the Mark III should be lighter, have only SD cards, and allow automatic switching of cards. And it wouldn't hurt if it were under $3000. Why stop there? What else? :D

Mike

[khkohl]

4gb CF cards at a reasonable price will make this whole discussion moot!

[CyberDyneSystems]

Sounds like CDS is using the MKII as a photographic Uzi!

i know what you're thinking - did he shoot 20 frames, or only 19? well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement i've kinda lost track myself. but being as this is a 1D mk II - the most powerful DSLR in the world, and would burst through an Osprey's full dive, you've got to ask yourself a question: do you feel lucky?

well, do ya CDS?

Bwahahahahaha ... spit my Iced coffe on that one! :lol: :lol: :lol:


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