Saying goodbye :(

[J.A.F. Doorhof]

With pain in my heart (and joy) I have to say goodbye to my friends on photography on the net.

After waiting for a long time on the new 1DsIII and after testing several times with MF cameras I decided that I wanted to make the switch to the MF system.

The choice has been the Mamiya 645 AFD/II with the new ZD digital back (22MP).

There for I can't post pictures anymore on this forum because it's no Canon.

I will of course keep the 5D for my other activities like live shows, sports and birding etc.

I have had a blast over here, and loved to read all the positive remarks about my work, never thought I would leave the Canon camp because I loved and still love the cameras.

However the DOF/Dynamic Range and sheer quality of the MF fits my work much better I believe.

Feel free to drop by on my site whenever you want, the galleries are updated app. twice per week.

Greetings,
Frank

[SOE digital]

You're leaving the forum because you think you can't post pictures that arn't done on a Canon?
O....kay.

[YosemiteJunkie]

Ouch. What's this place going to do without you and your beautiful photos? Hate to see you and your work go so I guess I'll just have to check it out and keep up with you on other places. 22mp. hmmmm hmmmmm hmmm. Good luck for sure.

[J.A.F. Doorhof]

Well it's a Canon forum ??
I would be thrilled to keep posting :D

[tommykjensen]

Of course you can continue to post photos here. It is only the equipment forums that are Canon specific. Everything else is open to any brand.

[ABrownPhoto]

I'm really happy for you to be upgrading to such an awesome camera! I also sad to see you go! Your awesome with a camera!

But i don't see why you actually need to leave POTN! I cannot name them off the top of my head, but there are plenty of NIKON users on here posting and commenting like the rest of us! They don't get any bushwah(my made-up word that means being harassed/made fun of/get crap) about using a different brand either! I say STAY here along with joining a MF club!

[JCR]

Canon, not canon.. matters not methinks.

But incase you decide to stick to your guns, may all your clicks but one come true :)

[disneydork06]

well you said ur gonna keep ur 5D...which is a canon so by default you should be able to stick around on the forums cause you have a 5D....right? right.

[Big_B]

I've been posting here for years and have never owned a Canon. Don't go!!!!!

[LCF]

Eh, Frank, don't kid us, you are not allowed to leave, what would POTN be without your amazing photos?

I'm a nikonian, but, pssht! :D hehe

C'mon blast us away with your MF images quality!

[Scarlett Nic]

Very sad indeed if we are to miss out on your amazing work from now on Frank. PLease reconsider leaving POTN.
Nic

[goatee]

Besides, when people start getting all "I've got more MP than you", those in the know will just say "Have you met Frank?. . . . "

Anyway, it will be really interesting to see if at small sizes there is a difference between the quality you can get with digital MF and DSLRs, or if it's just when you start to blow up that the differences become clear.

[Pekka]

Just keep posting, Frank!

[GyRob]

Iv enjoyed your shareing's of your work and wish you all the best with the new format .
Rob.

[dispatchermike21]

Just keep posting, Frank!


The word has been given Frank come back to the nest.

[J.A.F. Doorhof]

Well if Pekka says so :D

I didn't want to break any rules and I know how some forums are stricked in what is posted.
POTN was one of the first forums I shared my work on, and as of now I will keep doing it :D

Thanks Pekka.

[jgjulio]

Yea!

[GyRob]

Well if Pekka says so :D

I didn't want to break any rules and I know how some forums are stricked in what is posted.
POTN was one of the first forums I shared my work on, and as of now I will keep doing it :D

Thanks Pekka.
WELLCOME BACK THEN lol
Rob.

[MDJAK]

I've been posting here for years and have never owned a Canon. Don't go!!!!!

Off with his head.:D

Eh, Frank, don't kid us, you are not allowed to leave, what would POTN be without your amazing photos?

I'm a nikonian, but, pssht! :D hehe!

Blasphemy, say I. :cool:

Just keep posting, Frank!

The penultimate authority has spoken.

Now for the real brains behind the outfit.

MD "who demands you continue posting" JAK:lol:

[madferrit]

Wow.. Frank declares he's making a move to the dark side and all other non Canon users come out of the woodwork!

Like has been mentioned.. please do keep posting.. it isn't just about brand of camera, but more photographic style and technique that is more important.

[Andy_T]

Frank,

great to hear everything has been resolved to complete happiness...

Just one thing ... are you totally out of your mind to even considering not continuing to post here ???

We will certainly love to keep looking at your pics, and gasping in astonishment at your new images (like before, with your ole' Canon gear).

Best regards,
Andy

[Titus213]

I can't wait to see some stuff from the MF system. Your lighting and setups always amaze me and to be honest I didn't know or care what gear you were using. I just enjoy your excellent results.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Frank,
It's been discussed internally now, and the ruling is clear.

You my friend do not have permission to leave this forum! ;)
You can't leave, your not allowed!

Seriously though, Frank has been @ POTN for a long time, he's seen it grow exponentially in those years, a growth that has only been outshown by Franks own growth in skill, talent, and success.

If you look hard enough, you'll find Franks first "duck shots" here,. and now look at him!

I'm very interested in continuing to watch you grow Mr. Doorhof, as you turn this new page in your ever evolving career.

[Mr O]

I'm very interested in continuing to watch you grow Mr. Doorhof, as you turn this new page in your ever evolving career.
Here, here! :)

[MDJAK]

Frank,
It's been discussed internally now, and the ruling is clear.

The ruling is clear? Of course it is. I speak English, don't I?:lol:

[g-money]

Yeah, Glad your staying around. I love viewing your work. Now save us all the trouble and repost those duck pics!! Actually I would like to see one of your first portraits you posted. Glad you are staying

Greg

[ABrownPhoto]

YAY he's gonna stay!!!!!!!

WOOT WOOT

[amonline]

Frank, there is no reason for you to leave... besides, I want to see what this Mamiya can do. :lol:

[Tommy]

I want to see what this Mamiya can do. :lol:

It can make others very envious of it's owner... that's what it can do! lol! :lol:

[24Peter]

Well actually I think you should go Frank. But if you send me your 5D I post pics for your instead! :D

Seriously, I've seen elsewhere how excited you are about your new Mamiya setup. Congrats and enjoy it! But you could probably turnout great photos with a pinhole camera, so remember: it's not the camera, it's the photographer!

[madferrit]

Since MDJAK has the title "10 MP? No friggin deal" under his name.. shouldn't the Frank get something more suited to his 22 MP Camera?

[goatee]

hehe, something along the lines of "22MP? 1 kidney or two?"

P.s. not that I'm implying that members should sell their organs to pay for digital MF systems.

[LCF]

hehe, something along the lines of "22MP? 1 kidney or two?"

P.s. not that I'm implying that members should sell their organs to pay for digital MF systems.

hahahahha! :lol::lol:

Can I sell one kidney here on the forum? :D

[goatee]

I share a sense of humour with a Nikonian?

;) Only jesting, tell you what, do you know anyone who would sell on a kidney for me?

[J.A.F. Doorhof]

Wow, thanks so much :D
It's heart warming and touching.

And of course I will keep spamming :D
Untill Canon sends me the 1DsIII to test (well a guy can dream can't he :) )

[cosworth]

I don't think the wait will be much longer.

[DonE]

I don't post pics on this thread, but mainly hang out on the bird side of things, but from coming to this side have gotten a lot of great ideas and am amazed by your work. I hope you will continue to post your great photos on here. Thanks for all your wounderful work Frank!!

[Tareq]

Well, i have nikon P&S, i shooted once with MF, and i am going to buy one MF in the future [i was going to keep that as secret], but will that stopping me to come here or post?
Come on, i would love to see your works with MF to make me sure to get one later [Hassleblad mostly unless something much better coming].

[airfrogusmc]

Don't go away.... I've posted stuff I took with a Hasselblad (don't tell anyone)..... As long as you don't post Nikon you'll be OK:lol: :lol: right? Besides I would really like to see some photographs you take with that medium format bad boy.

[DwightMcCann]

Heck, Frank, I'd be interested in seeing your new setup here so you don't have to invade the hardware threads! And I am deeply thankful that Tommy made the distinction clear.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Tareq? With a Noink?
The Committee has ruled,
We have to be fair in the matter and even handed

Tareq must Leave! ;)

Well, i have nikon P&S, i shooted once with MF, and i am going to buy one MF in the future [i was going to keep that as secret], ....

[OptimizedDucati]

I'm a Nikon user, and I love this forum.

[Maureen Souza]

We will be anxiously waiting to see how your new equipment works out, Frank. I am so glad you are not leaving.

[Tareq]

Tareq? With a Noink?
The Committee has ruled,
We have to be fair in the matter and even handed

Tareq must Leave! ;)

ok ok, it is P&S and not DSLR, so not counted :lol:;)

[cdifoto]

If anything, you should stick around just to make fun of us for having inferior 35mm, 28.7mm and 22.2mm sensors.

[JohnnyG]

Frank, I've been admiring your photos for years both on this forum and others and would miss you very much. You're always so helpful and don't mind spending time with us explaining your techniques and for that, I'm grateful. Plus, your photos are truly breathtaking and stand as an inspiration to us all. They are always well thought out, impeccably arranged and composed, and presented with dignity.

I would miss you and I'm sure hundreds of others here would. I just hope you'll grace these pages with your new camera's output but I don't see how they can get better but knowing you, they will.

[nigelr07]

Frank

As a compete amateur in this complex field of photography, there are a number of people I look for in these forums, for ideas and direction. One of those happens to be your good self.

Personally I don't give a hoot what gear you use, all I know is this forum will be that bit poorer for not having your input.

[steveathome]

Frank, your work is inspirational, and as already said you are always very helpful.

Its so nice that someone in your position "bothers" to share technique, critique and technical advice, you have given me good advice on several occasions. I envy your new set up, but am pleased for you, as I know you will continue to provide spectacular images.

Stick around at the POTN, but I also wish very best of luck for you in your future, you are going all the way, and it couldn't happen to a nicer bloke.

[JaertX]

good to hear you're going to stick around...your work is very inspiring and it's nice to have such a high mark to try to work towards.

[Andy_T]

If anything, you should stick around just to make fun of us for having inferior 35mm, 28.7mm and 22.2mm sensors.

Full Frame? You call that FULL FRAME ?

(***Pulls Mamyia from slinger bag***)

Now *THAT* is a full frame camera !:lol:

Best regards,
Andy

[J.A.F. Doorhof]

LOL

[Andy_T]

Frank, if you still have your 5D, you might do some kind of comparison for us pixel peepers one day...

Best regards,
Andy

[mkuriger]

I'm very new here, and I don't even know you but I still don't want you to leave!

[Andy_T]

Frank, if you still have your 5D, you might do some kind of comparison for us pixel peepers one day...


OK, just found your reviews:
http://www.doorhof.nl/blog/index.php?topic=1123.15
http://www.doorhof.nl/blog/index.php?topic=1162.0

Great job!

Best regards,
Andy

[Ogrt48]

Oh wow, I just stumbled upon this thread and went to those review links. Those shots are so great. They make our cameras all look like 2d toys =\ I'm extremely shocked by how noisy the camera is at a 100% crop. o.0

[Mark_48]

Post some images from the Mamiya when you get a chance. You'll have everyone here wanting one :)

[Ogrt48]

Post some images from the Mamiya when you get a chance. You'll have everyone here wanting one :)

Theres a ton of his shots at the forum links above. The studio work is simply amazing.

[GMACK24]

I say stay.
I post all of my photos and if you take a look at my "gear list" none of my camera's are Cannon's.

No need to leave mate.

[J.A.F. Doorhof]

I already decided to stay :D

About the noise of the Mamiya.
The Mamiya has more noise over 200ISO than the Canon that's 100% true.
HOWEVER the Mamiya was build for studio work and other work that needs absolutly noise free operation at ISO50-100.

At ISO50 and 100 the pictures are 100% noise free.

[Ogrt48]

I already decided to stay :D

About the noise of the Mamiya.
The Mamiya has more noise over 200ISO than the Canon that's 100% true.
HOWEVER the Mamiya was build for studio work and other work that needs absolutly noise free operation at ISO50-100.

At ISO50 and 100 the pictures are 100% noise free.

I was just shocked that the noise is much worse at 400 on there than my crappy XT. I'm not saying that it's bad at all, I was just surprised. Those are some amazing photos in the reviews and threads on your forum. Once I saw your studio work with it it's easy to see why it's so much better than slr's for that stuff, so much better. And man, that color range is just amazing. o.0 I'd get one in a heart beat.. too bad I can't even afford to upgrade to a 30d though =\

[insideshot]

I agree, dont leave just because you have changed equip., continue to post pics here...if you enjoy then stay.

[Tareq]

I agree, dont leave just because you have changed equip., continue to post pics here...if you enjoy then stay.

HELLO, good morning.
He still here posting with his new equip

[AeroSmith]

Please keep posting! Canon be darned, we love your images.

[Croasdail]

Glad to see your hanging around. Your work always inspires and challenges. I went the Hassy route, and haven't been sad in the least. The work from the Mamiya looks wonderful. I love the slower pace to the whole process. I am even going to try some experimenting with sport shots with it the fall. Good news all the way around from ya. Cheers.

[J.A.F. Doorhof]

Yeah, the workflow is different in the studio but not worse.
The focus is slower but SO much more accurate it's scary :D

[jcw122]

Is it a rule you can't post non-Canon photos?

[JohnnyG]

Is it a rule you can't post non-Canon photos?
Of course not! We welcome all who have an interest in photography!

[goatee]

He's quite right, you can only post items of Canon gear. . .

[Yella Fella]

stop attention seeking man :P

your work has been great, dont you dare leave us hanging! :D when the forefather leaves, what are the sons meant to do?

[J.A.F. Doorhof]

LOL allready decided to stay don't worry.

It was not attention seeking by the way, but I have been here a long time and wanted to say goodbye the correct way, but was a bit shortsighted LOL

[Tareq]

LOL allready decided to stay don't worry.

It was not attention seeking by the way, but I have been here a long time and wanted to say goodbye the correct way, but was a bit shortsighted LOL

After that i think this thread should be closed:D;)