if you've upgraded from 10D .....

[edmund]

if you've shifted up.... would you mind telling me why? Obviously the MkII is an awesome piece of technology, but were/are there limitations with the 10D which have been frustrating you/ causing problems etc.
I'm here, dipping a toe in, wondering if I would be happy with the 10D.

Also - what two lenses would you advise. I realise that the quality of the picture depends on the quality of the lens to a large degree .... but where would you advise me to start if I'm on a bit of a budget? I'm reading about you all going with 'L' glass ...... I haven't looked into it (or through it!) but I guess it's a second mortgage. Could I get two lenses that would get me from moderately wide angle to 200mm equivalent with decent sharpness ...... for less than $1000

Thanks for your help. You are all much appreciated.

[Jon Borcik]

I do a lot of fast action sports photography. The 10D was definately an upgrade from my old Olympus E2, but the mkII is really what I need for speed. I have missed a lot of shots and have been frustrated at times with the AF when I need a quick response shot. Moving the focus to the "*" button helped a lot in that area, but I still get occasional AF problems. The shot I do get though at absolutely proffessional. Many are amazed at the action I have been able to capture. You can do it with this camera but it takes a lot of concentration at times to anticipate properly (part of the art though). I'll post some of my sports shots later this week if your interested. I haven't webposted the pictures, but I have sold them.
:)

[defordphoto]

I moved up simply because an affordable professional camera came available. I had no frustrations with the 10D, but if there was a weak point in trying to use the 10D as a sports shooter, as I was, it's the small buffer and slow(er) FPS. The AF is very adequate for sports shooting, however the MKII is a dream come true. AT times however, the 10D can seem to get confused and go into hunt mode when shooting AI Servo. For the most part it's adequate, but in what I shoot, you will miss a few shots.

I did not get a MKII to toss the 10D to the side. I will keep the 10D for the forseeable future. It's an awesome camera, meets my wife's needs and will act (also) as a backup for me if I should need it. The D60 will also be a backup and at the present time I don't plan on removing that camera from the bag either.

All that being said, the MKII is a freaking speed demon and that's what I needed for my style of shooting.

[scottbergerphoto]

8.5 fps
Fast and accurate AF in good lighting.
Excellent AI Servo in good lighting.
Beautiful color rendition(better the 10D).
Increased resolution/detail in my images.
The answer to your second question is no. The 1.3x crop, puts more emphasis on lens quality then the 1.6 crop. For high quailty lenses (L), each one is $1000+. The 50/1.4 or 1.8 are both great lenses for reasonable prices.
Regards,
Scott

[CyberDyneSystems]

Nothing wrong with the 10D.. most of us are still keeping ours!

[scottbergerphoto]

Nothing wrong with the 10D.. most of us are still keeping ours!
:!: :!: Absolutely

[GenEOS]

Nothing wrong with the 10D.. most of us are still keeping ours!

I never owned the 10D, I went from the D60 to the MKII.
I have had the opportunity to shoot a 10D on occasion and would say it is remarkably better than the D60 and a very nice camera.
Only because I shoots a lot of sports in low lighted situations, I upgraded to a MKII.
I would highly suggest a 10D for someone getting into digital.
It is a great camera and it has a lot of high end features.
Focusing is very good, and adequate for most anything.
FPS is a bit on the slow side, but still a respectable 3FPS, compared to that of a P-n-S.
Lenses?: Buy a 70-200 f2.8L, it's a must have.

[KennyG]

What is interesting across most Canon associated forums is the number of users that have gone 10D to 1D MK-II compared to the tiny few that have come from a 1D MK-I. It seems to be viewed as an upgrade from the 10D and isn't being sold as much as Canon intended to the PJ's. Very strange.

I upgraded from a 10D with 6mp to a 1D MK-I with 4mp. The 1 series cameras are that superior for certain jobs even less megapixels is better rather than worse. As a good all-round camera you can't get better than the 10D.

I keep forgetting I have a MK-II on order.

[bdavies926]

I upgraded from the 10D to the 1DM2 primarily for 3 reasons:

(1) The 2 extra megapixels is a plus for printing large wall portraits (like 24"x30")

(2) The pro body--I love it!

(3) Probably my biggest reason, the new E-TTL2 flash exposure system. I shoot a lot of events (weddings), and I'm one of those who never quite got the hang of getting consistent flash exposures with E-TTL on the 10D. And I'm not disappointed--for the first time I'm getting very consistent flash exposures (in ETTL mode with 550EX on the 1DM2) without needing to jump through hoops to manipulate the system in order to get there.

So far I'm a happy camper!

[CyberDyneSystems]

You know i never answered..

For me the extra MP were gravy... I was about to get a 1D (loosing two MP instead of gaining two) when the MkII rumors started..

I wanted a "1" body mainly for these reasons;

1: Superior and faster AutoFocus
2: Faster shutter response and burst rates.
3: Larger buffer and card write speeds.
4: Much more advanced custom features.
5: AutoFocus at f/8 (handy for big primes with teleconverters)

[Woolly Joss]

What sort of price are the MkII's being sold for in the UK?

I know I won't be able to afford it, but I was wondering just how far out of reach it is!

[Mike H]

I shoot biddy and high school basketball, and expect the Mark II to help me get better shots due to its reduced shutter lag, superior AF speed, and higher frame rate. Also, these games are played almost exclusively in terrible lighting, so the reduced noise at ISO 1600 will improve my image quality.

I also shoot event photography, and was very frustrated with the E-TTL metering. I was happy to see the previous post saying that E-TTL2 is really working.

I also like the 45 auto focus system. I'll be much more likely to have an AF point right over the subject's eyes when I shoot portraits now. That may seem like a minor point, but consider this: the depth-of-field used for portraits is often very shallow. It's easy to miss on the focus is you have to focus and then recompose since you will have to shift the camera a small amount to do so.

I second the motion on the 50/1.4 and 85/1.8. Those really are excellent quality, lightweight, and relatively inexpensive lenses. If you shoot portraits, sports (like basketball), or the stage, the 85/1.8 could be your most used lens.

I hope this helps.

Mike

[randyk]

I recently upgraded from 10d to 1d. It was more want than need though. I traded with a wedding pro (plus some cash natch), to his eye, the 10D was slightly better above ISO1600. They use 1D MKIIs for flash but 10D for existing light.

The 10D is really excellent, its just not the best for fast moving action. But thats no sin - what consumer grade camera is???