MAC Vs Windows

[ReSpawN]

To all Mac and Windows users...

Which one are you all using?
Are MACs specially designed for graphics?

All suggestions are welcome :D

[Penguin_101_1]

I am using Windows XP, PPC '02, Linux, Win 98, Apple IIgs OS. I don't think that the Mac was designed for graphics ( I may be wrong) but I think it looks best because it was designed for the same video card and not a lot like Windows edit which dosn't make its own hardware /edit (again, I may be wrong).
IMO Linux is the best and Windows XP is second best.

Just my $0.02

[cmM]

Windows XP Pro, and Red Hat Linux (Dual boot) I rarely use linux... only for educational purposes.
I don't use MAc, so I have no idea about its inclinations towards photography and image editing :?

[CyberDyneSystems]

WinXP..


The era that spawned the beleif that MAC was better for graphics is long since past :)

The "Empire" now dominates...

[Vita Rara]

Mac all the way. Switched about two years ago. I couldn't be happier.

Mark

[cprevost]

I think it's a wash. Go with whatever operating system you are more familair with and are happier working with. I love the Mac interface. I use both but am happier on a mac. It's not a performance thing it just feels better.

[blinking8s]

now an XP Shell running on a g5 would be a REALLY awesome machine...but, that wont happen...even thoug you can get OSX to run inside windows on an emulator right now, but its slow as hell

its preference, neither is better...mac seems to be the favor among a lot of printwork professionals and a TON of production (video) pros, not all graphic fields though. Mac's are very stable...but still have much room for imporvement...PC's are cheap and very user friendly, but somewhat unstable...but getting better

Personally, if you want a laptop, get a powerbook...it will humm as a work-horse machine.

but I use a PC at home, and in class...i've grown so close its hard to think about change. but I have the mac object doc bar in windows, it eats RAM...but its darn cool...

here...*chuckles*
http://www-edlab.cs.umass.edu/~ahelblin/misc/mac.html - turn your sound on

http://www.stardock.com/products/objectdock/ - object doc (windows user who NEED that mac'ish feel)...lol

the next version of windows (longhorn) which wont release prob till late 2006 is very similar to OSX, we'll see how that goes...

[Penguin_101_1]

here...*chuckles*
http://www-edlab.cs.umass.edu/~ahelblin/misc/mac.html - turn your sound on


LOL LOL LOL!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[ReSpawN]

here...*chuckles*
http://www-edlab.cs.umass.edu/~ahelblin/misc/mac.html - turn your sound on


LOL LOL LOL!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This video clip is really funny.....but if it is on Windows.....it will be never ending :lol: :lol:

[4walls]

here...*chuckles*
http://www-edlab.cs.umass.edu/~ahelblin/misc/mac.html - turn your sound on


Laughed till I cried... very funny!
:lol: :D :oops: :wink:

[eric1]

i would agre with CDS, it's a wash. just make shure all the apps you
want to run work on the system you choose. i use XP.

eric1

[Vita Rara]

here...*chuckles*
http://www-edlab.cs.umass.edu/~ahelblin/misc/mac.html - turn your sound on


Laughed till I cried... very funny!
:lol: :D :oops: :wink:

Interesting. As a Mac user I can't relate to it at all, nada, nil. I have no idea what computer this guy is referring to at all. I've never even heard of the "clover leaf" + period combination. Maybe some of these things were true in the OS 9 and before days, but now the Mac is a very competent, stable computer.

Mark

[Penguin_101_1]

here...*chuckles*
http://www-edlab.cs.umass.edu/~ahelblin/misc/mac.html - turn your sound on


Laughed till I cried... very funny!
:lol: :D :oops: :wink:

Interesting. As a Mac user I can't relate to it at all, nada, nil. I have no idea what computer this guy is referring to at all. I've never even heard of the "clover leaf" + period combination. Maybe some of these things were true in the OS 9 and before days, but now the Mac is a very competent, stable computer.

Mark

I think that the cloverleaf is the apple key but I bet for copyright reasons they can say the apple key. It was funny!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Mills]

Mac.

[Penguin_101_1]

Windows.

[richpix]

Mac (not MAC, that's something completely different), since OS 6 on a SE with dual floppy disk drives and something like 5.5 MB Mirror Technologies hard drive. The screen is b&w, 9 inches (measured diagonally). It still works fine.

[toglenn]

I bought my first home computer in 1980, an Apple. When IBM announced their PC, I bought one and was amazed by the improvements.

When Windows was announced, I bought that....Version3 (that was really bad!), and I've been a Windows user ever since. I build my own computers, so I didn't have much of a choice.

My daughter is a Graphics major and Macs are required, no Windows. When I saw the Mac package for the first time, I was impressed by the complete package. Everything was perfectly designed and worked without problems. Care and product quality were clearly displayed.

I still use Windows and will not change but I must say, the Apple package is very impressive and for someone who does not like to tinker, it may be your best choice.

As far as the finished processed files are concerned, Mac's have the edge in total graphic designs. In image processing, the difference is slight and a matter of personal choice. If I was to do it all again, I'd probably go Mac but I have too much invested in software to change now.

toglenn

[Canuck]

WinXP..


The era that spawned the beleif that MAC was better for graphics is long since past :)

The "Empire" now dominates...

I'm not convinced, sure the majority of home users is xp or some other incarnation of windows. I am running 98 OSR2 and XP on the big'un. I am about fed up with windows and ready to go MAC. It has to be better and more stable then xp. A friend of mine has a Compaq laptop and I have had nothing but problems and minidumps like 30 in a week. Everytime you start it up it comes up with 6 or so errors and if you're lucky :evil: you get a blue screen of death. What are mags like Pop Photo, Shutterbug, Digital Photo, and others put together on? I'd be Mac!

/rant mode=on
What would I like to see even more? The bill gates evil empire value drop to the point he can't even afford a cardboard box to live in. I have no respect for him and would like to see megashaft burn 1000 fold on what he has screwed the public with a pathetic os. Sure it is great if you are joe computer user, but for those of us that know more, it doesn't like tweeking. You have to admit, the bubbles in xp are annoyng as hell!
/rant mode=off

The first computer I ever used was an Apple IIC, then IIE, then Mac Plus, then Mac Performa 550 then went PC to see what it was like. I wished I had stayed MAC, but the ability to swap out stuff very easily is cool in the PC world. Now if Mac could do that Mac could really give the PC world a real run!

[blinking8s]

xp home is much much less stable than the pro version. also its really limited if you compare the two.

[alsmith]

Switched to Macs two years ago and have never looked back as the OS is simply easy to use and stable. I have worked with graphics on both platforms and I would say that the mac is definitely an easier working platform fro this type of thing. If you are in graphics, or photo stuff a mac is where it's at.

(still use a pc but less and less as time goes on. It's kind of a token computer for that one program I can't run which is getting to be less and less every month)

Going from a pc to a mac is a hard switch as the os is different so if you ware trying to make the move just be prepared for a learning curve. But once that curve is over you can be easily mor efficient on your mac. Most PC users are not willing to make the curve journey and instead just end up hacking the mac down.

So if you are thinking of the move don't do it unless you are ready to stick the curve out or you will be unhappy.

[Penguin_101_1]

WinXP..


The era that spawned the beleif that MAC was better for graphics is long since past :)

The "Empire" now dominates...

I'm not convinced, sure the majority of home users is xp or some other incarnation of windows. I am running 98 OSR2 and XP on the big'un. I am about fed up with windows and ready to go MAC. It has to be better and more stable then xp. A friend of mine has a Compaq laptop and I have had nothing but problems and minidumps like 30 in a week. Everytime you start it up it comes up with 6 or so errors and if you're lucky :evil: you get a blue screen of death. What are mags like Pop Photo, Shutterbug, Digital Photo, and others put together on? I'd be Mac!

/rant mode=on
What would I like to see even more? The bill gates evil empire value drop to the point he can't even afford a cardboard box to live in. I have no respect for him and would like to see megashaft burn 1000 fold on what he has screwed the public with a pathetic os. Sure it is great if you are joe computer user, but for those of us that know more, it doesn't like tweeking. You have to admit, the bubbles in xp are annoyng as hell!
/rant mode=off

The first computer I ever used was an Apple IIC, then IIE, then Mac Plus, then Mac Performa 550 then went PC to see what it was like. I wished I had stayed MAC, but the ability to swap out stuff very easily is cool in the PC world. Now if Mac could do that Mac could really give the PC world a real run!

I will reply to you using colors. :D

Compaqs and HPs are JUNK! I have had the same problem with both!
I don't like Bill Gates either. He makes an OK os but charges WAY TO MUCH MONEY FOR WHAT YOU GET!
I forgot the type of my first computer. It seems that I was a UltraComp but I don't know. It used Win 3.1 and DOS. I liked DOS. It was fun to see what your computer is doing without all of the bubbles telling me to update or whatever. I still like GUIs better but DOS is fun to do stuff in sometimes.

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I don't think I will ever change. I use Linux and I play around with freeware disk os on an old system.

[damnengine]

I work as a graphic & a/v designer at a broadcast company, we all use pc's, they're easier and cheaper to keep up to date, to customize and since we also use 3dsmax and digital fusion in our workflow, it's just easier to keep it all pc only (especially because it allows network rendering on the computers that aren't used at the time). I never encountered real stability problems since windows NT 4 (I never used the win9x or winME versions), and if it happened it was always was quite easy to solve. All the eyecandy of the mac OS might look cool in the beginning but it doesn't add anything when you need to really work on a system, I turn all the xp stuff off too.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Canuck,..

I think part of the problem you may be facinf re: stability is not the OS.. but the OEM "crap Spyware" installation..

Specifiacally HP and Compaq.. but really most consumer premade PCs are so stuffed with crap software that all starts up automatically it is no wonder they don't all crash all the time..

Now a real workstation.. either home made, custom built or even a brand nameunit will not ahve all that crap starting up sucking up RAM and basically hosing the system from the get go.

My PC for instance has NOTHING in the taskbar but the volume control, clock and local area connection info...

This is how a mildly overclocked XP1900 can run circles around a Compaq with a 3GH P4... :)

[Tom W]

Canuck,..

I think part of the problem you may be facinf re: stability is not the OS.. but the OEM "crap Spyware" installation..

Specifiacally HP and Compaq.. but really most consumer premade PCs are so stuffed with crap software that all starts up automatically it is no wonder they don't all crash all the time..

Now a real workstation.. either home made, custom built or even a brand nameunit will not ahve all that crap starting up sucking up RAM and basically hosing the system from the get go.

My PC for instance has NOTHING in the taskbar but the volume control, clock and local area connection info...

This is how a mildly overclocked XP1900 can run circles around a Compaq with a 3GH P4... :)

I agree - I run XP on Dell on both computers. I've disabled a few things that Dell thought I needed, and both machines run like a top. I can't recall the last time I had a problem with either one.

Run them clean, use Spybot and/or AdAware occasionally to delete any spyware that some crude website might try to leave on your machine, and do the regular maintenance and your machine should be trouble-free.

As for Bill Gates - I don't share the hatred. Supply & demand will dictate the proper price for any product, Windows included.

[Penguin_101_1]

Canuck,..

I think part of the problem you may be facinf re: stability is not the OS.. but the OEM "crap Spyware" installation..

Specifiacally HP and Compaq.. but really most consumer premade PCs are so stuffed with crap software that all starts up automatically it is no wonder they don't all crash all the time..

Now a real workstation.. either home made, custom built or even a brand nameunit will not ahve all that crap starting up sucking up RAM and basically hosing the system from the get go.

My PC for instance has NOTHING in the taskbar but the volume control, clock and local area connection info...

This is how a mildly overclocked XP1900 can run circles around a Compaq with a 3GH P4... :)

I agree - I run XP on Dell on both computers. I've disabled a few things that Dell thought I needed, and both machines run like a top. I can't recall the last time I had a problem with either one.

Run them clean, use Spybot and/or AdAware occasionally to delete any spyware that some crude website might try to leave on your machine, and do the regular maintenance and your machine should be trouble-free.

As for Bill Gates - I don't share the hatred. Supply & demand will dictate the proper price for any product, Windows included.

I guess supply and demand does have a lot to do with the price and the fact he dosn't make the price, the strore does.

Dell is an great PC maker. I have a Dell Desktop, Laptop, and Pocket PC and have never had a problem with any.
The things I have on my taskbar are weatherbug, AIM,Yahoo! IM, LAN Connection, Wireless Connection. MSN IM, PGP tray, Network Drive, LAN Connection (non wireless), Sound, Battery, Scanner, ActiveSync, Odyssey Client, and Clock. I have a lot of stuff.

[jimtfoto]

Use a Mac at work (newspaper) for page layout, graphics and photo editing ... however, have two desktop PCs and a laptop at home, all running Windows XP, Photoshop CS, Quark Express 6, etc. These are the latest versions which I can't use at work because we are tied to Mac OS 9 due to some add-on software compatibility. Am familiar with both platforms ... each has pluses and minuses and I enjoy working with both systems. Price was the factor in opting for PC at home ... more power, less bucks than the Mac.
Jim

[Tom W]

I guess supply and demand does have a lot to do with the price and the fact he dosn't make the price, the strore does.

Well, there seems to be some control, since nobody ever seems to sell the MS stuff much cheaper than anybody else. Same seems true with camera equipment.

Dell is an great PC maker. I have a Dell Desktop, Laptop, and Pocket PC and have never had a problem with any.
The things I have on my taskbar are weatherbug, AIM,Yahoo! IM, LAN Connection, Wireless Connection. MSN IM, PGP tray, Network Drive, LAN Connection (non wireless), Sound, Battery, Scanner, ActiveSync, Odyssey Client, and Clock. I have a lot of stuff.

Man, you've got a full tray! I have 7 icons - Hotsync (for the palm pilot that I never use), two for the internet/network connection, POW popup stopper, tiny personal firewall, and my USB card reader.

[cadd2]

Ah..... Mac or Windows? This ranks up there with Coke or Pepsi?, Ali or Tyson?, Burger King or McDonalds? Superman or Batman? It's all a matter of opinion. I use both. Some things work better on a Mac and others on a PC. Your choice.

[Penguin_101_1]

Ah..... Mac or Windows? This ranks up there with Coke or Pepsi?, Ali or Tyson?, Burger King or McDonalds? Superman or Batman? It's all a matter of opinion. I use both. Some things work better on a Mac and others on a PC. Your choice.

Bold is my answers.

[Andy_T]

here...*chuckles*
http://www-edlab.cs.umass.edu/~ahelblin/misc/mac.html - turn your sound on


Laughed till I cried... very funny!
:lol: :D :oops: :wink:

Interesting. As a Mac user I can't relate to it at all, nada, nil. I have no idea what computer this guy is referring to at all. I've never even heard of the "clover leaf" + period combination. Maybe some of these things were true in the OS 9 and before days, but now the Mac is a very competent, stable computer.

Mark

I switched from Mac to PC a long time ago, when Windows 3.11 was introduced.

That actually was the first time when you could think of using a PC for something vaguely similar to Desktop publishing. I can very well relate to all that was stated in the movie, and it definitely is a very accurate description of how I was working back then. However -
I hope that has changed since then :lol:

Don'T get me wrong, the mac is a very easy-to-use and also secure system. However, if you needed to use special software back then for work that gets the last out of desktop publishing and graphic design (e.g. title morphing or raytracing), and needed to use more than one program at a time or otherwise pushed the system to its limits, then you saw more of the 'bombs' (the window with the system crash actually has a little bomb in it :lol:) than other normal system messages.

Mind you - I only changed to DOS because I went out of DTP ... if I still did that, I'd most likely be using macs still.

Best regards,
Andy

[CyberDyneSystems]

Use a Mac at work (newspaper) for page layout, graphics and photo editing ... however, have two desktop PCs and a laptop at home, all running Windows XP, Photoshop CS, Quark Express 6, etc. These are the latest versions which I can't use at work because we are tied to Mac OS 9 due to some add-on software compatibility. Am familiar with both platforms ... each has pluses and minuses and I enjoy working with both systems. Price was the factor in opting for PC at home ... more power, less bucks than the Mac.
Jim

Interesting.... Quark USED to be one of the reasons people NEEDED a Mac.. how times change.

[Belmondo]

I was an early Mac user. Actually I go all the way back to the earliest 128K version (Hello). I stuck with them all the way up to early G3s. Unfortunately, the business I was in became generally standaradized on the Windows platform, and I found I was spending a lot of money trying to stay current with both. Ultimately I opted for Windows because it was the system I had to use, and most of the important Mac software I had been using was available on both platforms. The Mac was purely a luxury, and a hard one to justify.

Other than the popularity of Windows as a target for hackers, I find the transition to have been relatively painless, and for me, XP Pro has been very stable. I run it on everything.

I do miss MacExpo in San Francisco every January, though. The early years were wild.

[RoB_m]

i've always used a mac. i had a pc in high school for two years but it was just my game machine and i sold it for a dual G4. used my dad's mac plus with one megabyte of ram! it's still in the garage but it's carrying case is used by the cat as a bed.

as far as why macs are better: they used to be better for color management because they used a different gamma then PCs. macs used 1.8 while PCs used 2.2, which affected the color gamut that was visible on screen. the first desktop publishing apps were better written on the mac side and the following started there.
nowadays i'm pretty sure PCs can change their gamma and the apps aren't half assed ports anymore, so most of the advantages are gone. there's still a very different user experience and workflow between both platforms and i think that's what keeps us using macs still to this day.