C1SE sharpen settings not transferring to PS

[dplace]

when opening RAW images in PS CS using C1SE 3.5 the sharpening settings are not coming through _
yes _ the "Disable Sharpening on output" box is not checked _ view screen shoots at:

>http://www.dlpimages.com/Pages/C1%20Test%20Page.htm<

_ have tried reinstalling C1 but get a messages stating that C1 setup files are already present _ anyone else having this problem ? _ any suggestions ?

[slejhamer]

The main preview window in C1 does NOT accurately represent the sharpening settings that will be applied. You must use the smaller window in the focus tab itself to see how the converted file will look.

The preview in the focus tab is very accurate as it is based on the actual application of your settings; it's like a mini-conversion

With the focus tab active, you can click anywhere in the preview window to move the location of the sample that is represented in the focus tab window.

You can also resize the focus tab window so that it is larger if necessary.

Hope that helps.

[dplace]

The main preview window in C1 does NOT accurately represent the sharpening settings that will be applied.

Thanks for the input _ but _ that doesn't explain why the RAW files are transfering to PS CS with NO sharpening applied

[drisley]

C1 3.5 seems to be a little buggy, which is why they are now offering the upgrade for free.
However, I just tried and there was no problem.

Try uninstalling it, then going to your program files directory and delete the phase one directory. Then reinstall.

[dplace]

tried reinstalling _ twice _ during the reinstall a screen comes up which says something about the set up files are already installed _ have not figured out how to get a clean uninstall _ ran win add / remove program _ then deleated the phase one program folder but still get the setup found message _

[drisley]

Ah, ok.
If you are running xp, go into

C:\Documents and Settings\USER\Local Settings\Temp

Instead of USER, you will have the name of the current user on your computer.

This is where the temp files are stored and where the C1 install is probably "temporarily" extracting the "setup" files.

Delete all the files in this folder. They are all temporary and it wont hurt.
In fact, I have a shortcut to that folder on my desktop and I empty this folder daily. For some reason many programs dont clean up there temp files when they are done.

[CyberDyneSystems]

I am not sure we are fully understanding your stated problem?

In a follow up you mention that the RAW files do not have the sharpening applied when they are opened in PS...

To my knowledge.. C1 won't sharpen any RAW files.. it will only apply sharpening to the tif file that C1 outputs.

I am missing something?

[dplace]

In a follow up you mention that the RAW files do not have the sharpening applied when they are opened in PS...

the C1 program calls it "focus" _ the tabs are labeled: White Balance, Exposure, Focus, Develop _ in the Focus tab you set Sharpening: Method (standard look or soft look), amount (0-400), Threshold (0-50) _ if you look at the Preferences box (> file > preferences) toward the bottom is a section labeled "Processing settings" with a check box labeled "Disable Sharpening on output" _ in the previous version of C1 leaving this box unchecked would apply the C1 sharpening settings to the Tiff file opened in PS CS _ you could apply a prelimanary sharpening to the file before it opened in PS, do more work in PS, & then do a final sharpening for output (printing) _ with version 3.5 the tifs open in PS with no sharpening applied _ this is either a problem with the 3.5 version or they have lessened the effect of the sharpening settings so far that they are useless _

since we just switched to a Canon 1D mark II I just went back to an old 10D file, developed two files from C1 SE 3.5 to PS CS _ one with the sharpening settings cranked way up & the other with the sharpening set at 0/0 _ at print size both of the files look the same _ at 100% I can JUST see that the one file has been sharpened _ but _ not enough to make it work while _ again, it looks as though C1 has either cut the power of the sharpening or there is a fault in the program _

check the web page again _ more examples have been added _

>http://www.dlpimages.com/Pages/C1%20Test%20Page.htm<

[cgratti]

I am not sure we are fully understanding your stated problem?

In a follow up you mention that the RAW files do not have the sharpening applied when they are opened in PS...

To my knowledge.. C1 won't sharpen any RAW files.. it will only apply sharpening to the tif file that C1 outputs.



Correct... I applied it to the RAW files and then when converted to TIFF they come out fine for me. I have used C1 Rebel and Pro 3.5.

[theoldmoose]

C1 3.5 seems to be a little buggy, which is why they are now offering the upgrade for free.


Who wants a bug-ridden piece of code, even if it's free?

P1 has now launched a '4.0 wish list' thread on their forums, purportedly to ask folks what they would like in their coming October release.

Better that they fix all the bugs in their current code, instead.

[Cordell]

C1 3.5 seems to be a little buggy, which is why they are now offering the upgrade for free.


Who wants a bug-ridden piece of code, even if it's free?

P1 has now launched a '4.0 wish list' thread on their forums, purportedly to ask folks what they would like in their coming October release.

Better that they fix all the bugs in their current code, instead.

SIDE BAR:

Peace, calm down, hold it a minute, pause! Nearly every upgrade, new product, advancement, etc has bugs no matter how much it's tested. P1 takes care of their customers very well and they listen. How often have you heard of someone getting a new car because of a recall? How many times has Microsoft given customers a free upgrade with all the bugs that are found in it's products. Be cool, relax, take a deeeeeeeep breath. :wink:

[theoldmoose]

I would, except that P1 has pretty much drained my ability to wish to deal with them anymore.

You'll find I'm not alone in this, if you spend any time on their support forums. The worst IMO problem is major regression issues, where previously fixed bugs have resurfaced, or long-standing ones were simply overlooked. The latest word is that those might not get fixed in the upcoming 'maintenance' release, but rather might be put off until the October 4.0 upgrade. So what is the 'maintenance' release for, you might ask? Well, it's to add all the missing promised features from the current release, and to add promised support for new camera models!

That pretty much says it all, in my book. Their development/release process is totally out of control, as well as their management process. Instead of planning for bug fixes, they are planning for support for new camera models, and counting that as upgrades for existing customers (as if the majority of existing customers are swapping DSLRs every six months).