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jd_D60
5th of June 2004 (Sat), 04:56
I've been using this combo for a while and in the studio (say f11) the results are great but when shooting outdoors I often get software images, so today I shot a few test images at f2.8 and was quite surprised at the dof of 2.8 on the 10D.

http://johndavies.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/florida/piccies/lottie_full.jpg

shot of my daughter slightly off centre

RIGHT EYE

http://johndavies.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/florida/piccies/lottie_right.jpg

& LEFT EYE

http://johndavies.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/florida/piccies/lottie_left.jpg

Well I was quite surprised at the difference in sharpness.

No adjustments have been made to RAW image other that crop for Web

PS first time linking photos so fingers crossed

maderito
5th of June 2004 (Sat), 08:00
Looks like you're quite close to your pretty subject:

At 70 mm, f/2.8 on the 10D

Camera to subject 3 ft: DOF = 2.97 to 3.03 ft.
Camera to subject 5 ft: DOF = 4.92 to 5.08 ft.

At 3 feet, the DOF extends about 1/3 inch in front and beyond your focal point.
At 5 feet, it's about 1 inch.

I read frequently that you should stop down to at least f/5.6 to get adequate DOF for portrait-type shots.

I became so concened with this issue that I plugged the DOF formulas into an Excel worksheet. The actual formulas and online DOF calculator (not mine!) are at: http://dfleming.ameranet.com/dofjs.html

Tom W
5th of June 2004 (Sat), 08:48
Looks like you're quite close to your pretty subject:

At 70 mm, f/2.8 on the 10D

Camera to subject 3 ft: DOF = 2.97 to 3.03 ft.
Camera to subject 5 ft: DOF = 4.92 to 5.08 ft.

At 3 feet, the DOF extends about 1/3 inch in front and beyond your focal point.
At 5 feet, it's about 1 inch.

I read frequently that you should stop down to at least f/5.6 to get adequate DOF for portrait-type shots.

I became so concened with this issue that I plugged the DOF formulas into an Excel worksheet. The actual formulas and online DOF calculator (not mine!) are at: http://dfleming.ameranet.com/dofjs.html

There's some that might use a somewhat larger or smaller Circle of Confusion for the calculation, but I agree that your DOF is very shallow at f/2.8 at relatively close range. I think that this is one of the reasons that people think that they have a focus issue, when they are really dealing with a very shallow DOF as well as the false expectation that a camera can lock focus within a 5 mm range repeatedly.

That's a very good example, JD!

BTW, Manderito, do you happen to have the Excel Spreadsheet available as an e-mail attachment? I'd be interested in it if it is. Don't worry if you can't though, I can understand. PM me if you can.

Sendide
5th of June 2004 (Sat), 12:19
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maderito wrote:
Looks like you're quite close to your pretty subject:

At 70 mm, f/2.8 on the 10D

Camera to subject 3 ft: DOF = 2.97 to 3.03 ft.
Camera to subject 5 ft: DOF = 4.92 to 5.08 ft.

At 3 feet, the DOF extends about 1/3 inch in front and beyond your focal point.
At 5 feet, it's about 1 inch.

I read frequently that you should stop down to at least f/5.6 to get adequate DOF for portrait-type shots.

I became so concened with this issue that I plugged the DOF formulas into an Excel worksheet. The actual formulas and online DOF calculator (not mine!) are at: http://dfleming.ameranet.com/dofjs.html



I'm interested too in getting this Excell file, great idea, is it possible to post it? or as tom mentionned , if you don not mind emailing it to me as well.
regards
KHalid

Sendide
5th of June 2004 (Sat), 12:21
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maderito wrote:
Looks like you're quite close to your pretty subject:

At 70 mm, f/2.8 on the 10D

Camera to subject 3 ft: DOF = 2.97 to 3.03 ft.
Camera to subject 5 ft: DOF = 4.92 to 5.08 ft.

At 3 feet, the DOF extends about 1/3 inch in front and beyond your focal point.
At 5 feet, it's about 1 inch.

I read frequently that you should stop down to at least f/5.6 to get adequate DOF for portrait-type shots.

I became so concened with this issue that I plugged the DOF formulas into an Excel worksheet. The actual formulas and online DOF calculator (not mine!) are at: http://dfleming.ameranet.com/dofjs.html



I'm interested too in getting this Excell file, great idea, is it possible to post it? or as tom mentionned , if you don not mind emailing it to me as well.
regards
KHalid