HDR question (picture)

[zack3082]

picture was taken from johninjapan.com, ive seen his and a few other photographers hdr work.

from what ive seen hdr is numerous shots at different shutter speeds and that takes me about 20-30 seconds to do with a tripod.

how would you have a moving subject in a picture and still do hdr?

http://www.johninjapan.com/images/comprofiler/plug_profilegallery/62/tnpg_28326054.jpg

[thekid24]

Can we get a bigger size of photo, or maybe a link?:D

[e r y k]

most likely did a "semi" hdr, taking one shot, then changing the exposure in a raw convertor of some sort, then merging.

[Tsmith]

As noted the image seems rather small you have posted yet from what I can tell it seems more of an image with tone mapping applied rather than a true HDR process.

[Caster]

I saw a tutorial on Flickr (or a photography blog, I can't recall exactly), but it gave these photos a weird effect that almost looked like HDR and they did it with a lot of portraits. It had a lot to do with the High Pass filter in Photoshop, you basically duplicate the layer of the image, use the high pass filter, set the blending mode to "vivid color" then you create another duplicate of the original layer, same filter, then Unsharp Mask and then set that mod to difference (I think), you have to mess around with it, I'll keep looking to see if I can find it..

[Cathpah]

most likely did a "semi" hdr, taking one shot, then changing the exposure in a raw convertor of some sort, then merging.

exactly. OR, they used a 1d at full frame rate and had the person slow down the action as much as possible.

i'd bet on the raw manipulation though.

[adas]

Even at this size it looks pretty awful.
You need a HDR means to display a HDR image, not a 5 stops monitor.

[kevin_c]

I think the OP has posted it this size because he did not take the image, although as suggested a link to a larger one would be helpful. (and probably the best legal option...)

You would normally take multiple exposures by changing the shutter speed because changing the aperture could result in the images not 'registering' properly. (the images field of view could change very slightly).
To do this on a moving subject involves a 'fake' method by just using one image and merging copies of this image that have different PP work done on the shadows/highlights/exposures etc.

I personally don't like HDR images, the ones I see always look 'flat' and over saturated, most have 'halos' around them edges of objects as well - It's almost like the idea of an image having shadows is alien! :-) - They just don't look realistic, which I thought was the whole idea of them - to increase the low dynamic range of digital capture. (similar to a good colour negative film :-))
Maybe someone can show me some good ones :-)

But what do i know... Just my personal view on the subject

(Rant over :-))

[Gadget-Guy]

PhotomatixPro will let you produce a semi HDR from one RAW file and then tone map it as a normal HDR image and other than that you can use a program called LucisArt which is either stand alone or CS Plugin to achieve a very similar effect.

[Cathpah]

PhotomatixPro will let you produce a semi HDR from one RAW file and then tone map it as a normal HDR image and other than that you can use a program called LucisArt which is either stand alone or CS Plugin to achieve a very similar effect.

I use photomatix for all my HDR work but I have to say, three (or more!) separate exposures seems to have a much nice effect than just raw manipulation.

[zack3082]

hre yall go, this photographer's stuff is neat.. check the sushi cchef pic for the full size
http://www.johninjapan.com/community/task,userProfile/user,62/tab,getProfileGalleryTab/

[Gadget-Guy]

I use photomatix for all my HDR work but I have to say, three (or more!) separate exposures seems to have a much nice effect than just raw manipulation.

Yes i do agree and i myself normally take 5 exposures or more depending on the light for static subjects but i also like the advantages it can give to my MX and Motorsport pictures in which case i use a single RAW.

[Cathpah]

hre yall go, this photographer's stuff is neat.. check the sushi cchef pic for the full size
http://www.johninjapan.com/community/task,userProfile/user,62/tab,getProfileGalleryTab/



i dig it but it all looks a little overcooked to me. its certainly a matter of opinion, but I enjoy it most when HDR can helpwith shadow/highlight/cloud detail/contrast without making it look overly "enhanced"

still interesting and cool stuff...has to have been done with just one RAW manipulated 3 ways. thanks for linking it.

[Vitruvius]

Maybe its just me, I dont know but I've been thoroughly unimpressed by the majority of HDR images I've seen, even the supposedly good ones. At least to me there would be a time and a place where an HDR image would be useful it seems usually they are made for the sake of being HDR and the resulting image is worse then the original. Could be I'm just overly critical but I dont usually see that many impressive HDR shots.

[nicolerork]

Stay away from HDR.

[zacker]

I saw a tutorial on Flickr (or a photography blog, I can't recall exactly), but it gave these photos a weird effect that almost looked like HDR and they did it with a lot of portraits. It had a lot to do with the High Pass filter in Photoshop, you basically duplicate the layer of the image, use the high pass filter, set the blending mode to "vivid color" then you create another duplicate of the original layer, same filter, then Unsharp Mask and then set that mod to difference (I think), you have to mess around with it, I'll keep looking to see if I can find it..


Its in the Strobist group.. do a search for "OT- eureka the dave hill look" or something to that effect.. i have played with this many times and have not had any success with it except for waaaay over sharpening a shot! lol

Ths guy might have tone mapped a single image or he might have learned the "Dave Hill" style of lighting... its hard to tell from that lil pic!

[zacker]

I cant say Im a huge fan of Black and white Photography... doesnt mean its not good... just not me! Everything has its place... Evrything has its fans.. its all good.

[kevin_c]

Stay away from HDR.

Or else...? ???

[Cathpah]

Stay away from HDR.

haha...ok. any reason why? or just your personal taste.

how about:

stay away from bad HDR

[303villain]

I agree with the above post. Some of the images in the gallery linked to I like. Not the Sushi chef though, it's way overdone and the colors look to me to be way off. I enjoy doing HDR's for certain things, its all personal and up to you though.

[Duder]

again, poorly tone mapped/processed images are giving HDR a bad name. There's no such thing as a bad HDR because it's a technique, not a 'look'!
Anyone who says they don't like 'HDR's' doesn't know what they're talking about.

[Sydor25]

Stay away from HDR.

Why would you say this?

[Anke]

If you take out the "tn" you get the main image

http://www.johninjapan.com/images/comprofiler/plug_profilegallery/62/pg_28326054.jpg

Not brilliant but still quite artistic