Considered sharp for 10D? (Focusing problems in 10D)

[AA]

I have been reading a lot about focusing problems in 10D. I just switched from Nikon FM 2 to 10D. I'm not very satisfied with the results.

Just wondering if the picture below is considered sharp or not. Or I should bring it for service as what has been done by sgregory (Focusing problems in 10D).

http://www.angkriwan.org/AA/Copy%20of%20Parrot%20@%20Whiteman%20Park.jpg

[Pekka]

Please post original size photo with EXIF information, and info how your have post-processed it.

[scottbergerphoto]

All digital photos, particularly those produced by a CMOS chip and AA filter, need some form of sharpening. As Pekka stated, without knowing what you did before/during and after the shot, it's impossible to tell. Part of the problem in evaluating that picture is lack of contrast. It's pretty dark. An adjustment in levels would help.
Regards,
Scott

[CyberDyneSystems]

In the "Top tips" sticky thread.. on the second page there is a link here;
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=213493#213493

which covers the spteps one can take oif they are concerned that there camera is focusing incorrectly...

:)

[Jim_T]

Yes, you have to sharpen.. Pictures directly out of the 10D tend to be a little soft. It's a common complaint. Also, you don't say what lens you're using. The lens is perhaps THE most important component when it comes to picture quality.

If you don't want to post process, try increase the in-camera sharpening... But as Pekka says.. You'll have to provide more information and a link to a full sized image..

[droosan]

I have been reading a lot about focusing problems in 10D. I just switched from Nikon FM 2 to 10D. I'm not very satisfied with the results.

Just wondering if the picture below is considered sharp or not. Or I should bring it for service as what has been done by sgregory (Focusing problems in 10D).



What was the lens, the aperture, and the speed? You have a surprisingly large DOF, which makes me think you had a small aperture, which makes me wonder about whether diffusion and camera shake are issues. If your lens was a long zoom, (especially at f/11 or so...) you probably not going to get top sharpness except with a tripod, or in strong sun.

Yes, and you'll probably need to digitally sharpen too, depending on what you're doing with the picture.

[AA]

I'm so very new with this digital camera.

There is no post-processing.

The lens is EF28-135 3.5-5.6 IS.

I think I lost the rest of the information.

Thank you for everybody's input.

[SlickStreet16]

I think I lost the rest of the information.

AA,

You should be able to see the EXIF info as follows:

Open the picture on your hard drive and right click on it. Then click Properties, and click the Summary tab. The info should be there.

Find the shutter speed, aperture, ISO and focal length that the picture was taken at.

[Tom Florsheim]

Their is either something wrong with your camera or you are not focusing right because that photograph should be much sharper. I do get very sharp photographs with my 10D, but you can focus wrong as we all do at times.

Tom

[defordphoto]

There is no post-processing.

That is why that photo is not sharp. Almost ALL photos that come out of any dSLR need post-processing if you expect them to be razor sharp. That photo would be easily processed to show great detail, contrast, brightness and resulting sharpness in about 30 seconds.

These are not point and shooters people.

[Chris1le]

That photo would be easily processed to show great detail, contrast, brightness and resulting sharpness in about 30 seconds.

Hope you don't mind but I did this in just over 30 seconds :lol: to show that most all DSLR images need some kind of processing. For the most part levels and sharpening are all that are required. Others images will need more processing. The focus looks good. The image is a little underexposed but levels helped out there.

http://www.pbase.com/image/29876410.jpg

[Scotty G]

If you do not want to sharpen in PS then go to the menu, choose parmeters and bump the sharpness up as far as you can.

The 10D will then take very nice sharp pictures right out of the camera.

Good Luck

Scotty

[mxer82]

Why does Canon leave the settings so that they need to be sharpened out of the box? It is kinda dissapointing to have to mess with pictures with a 1-5 thousand dollar camera! Just curious.

[Sendide]

Besides all what was well said, I think that there is no focusing problem with your camera according to the picture you posted. Some 10Ds did come with front or back focusing problems, but it were your case, we could 've seen shaprer back or front (I assume you focused on the bird)which both look more blurry in the post. since the bird looks the sharpest part of the picutre, as the folks said, increase sharpning in camera setting or after the shot in any appropriate software.
regards
Khalid

[cmM]

Why does Canon leave the settings so that they need to be sharpened out of the box? It is kinda dissapointing to have to mess with pictures with a 1-5 thousand dollar camera! Just curious.
You can always set the camera to automatically sharpen....

But not everyone wants sharp pictures all the time, and you have more control over the image in PS (or any other image editing software)

[AA]

These are the pictures after maximizing the 'sharpness' parameter.

http://www.angkriwan.org/aa/Copy of Holden Steering Wheel.jpg

Tv( Shutter Speed )
1/60
Av( Aperture Value )
5.6
Metering Mode
Evaluative
Exposure Compensation
-1 1/2
ISO Speed
400
Lens
28.0 - 135.0 mm
Focal Length
135.0 mm

Please advise.

Thank you.

[AA]

Sorry missed the address for the picture.

http://www.angkriwan.org/AA/Copy%20of%20Holden%20Steering%20Wheel.jpg

[Sendide]

for a shutter speed of 1/60, looks quite sharp to me
good luck
khalid

[Cadwell]

Plus of course, the EF 28-135mm isn't the sharpest lens in the bag... whatever it's other merits may be.

[droosan]

Plus of course, the EF 28-135mm isn't the sharpest lens in the bag... whatever it's other merits may be.

True, and it's wide open at f/5.6 and slow at s/60. But the picture is still usable--just not at full resolution. Sharpen it up, add a little contrast, and crop it a bit, and you got a nice picture.

http://66.28.36.20/misc/Parrot.jpg

Whoops. That's a bit over-sharpened. But you get the idea.

[Jim_T]

Why does Canon leave the settings so that they need to be sharpened out of the box? It is kinda dissapointing to have to mess with pictures with a 1-5 thousand dollar camera! Just curious.

This is a very common question.. It's not a fault or deficiency of the camera.. It was by design.

The 10D was aimed partially at the pro market.. I guess it was expected that images would be subject to some sort of workflow. (This is what RAW is all about after all).. Post processing is generally the best time to apply all the desired effects.

Rather than being tied to the sharpening provided by the camera firmware, post processing allows you to use an assortment of sharpening techniques to different degrees.. (Sharpen, unsharp mask.. etc).

However, the soft image complaints from the snapshot crowd were noted and Canon increased the default sharpening in the Digital Rebel.. As a result less (if any) processing is required. See the link below..

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d/page12.asp

[AA]

Thanks you all.