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Mills

6th of June 2004 (Sun), 22:32

Now that we are capturing all of these great images with these wonderful EOS Machines, We need to find a way to properly display larger quantities on the Web. That to me sounds like a new challenge, build my own website. So I ask. Go Live! or Dream Weaver?

7th of June 2004 (Mon), 04:24

I used DreamWeaver to build my site, but only the text pages. Try Coppermine (http://coppermine.sourceforge.net) for the photo pages. It stores the pics in a MySQL database. Makes updating new photos a doddle. Once configured, it sits on the web server, you just poke more pictures into the database and viola, they appear on site. Have a look at my site if you want to see an example (link in sig)

HTH

kahfluie

7th of June 2004 (Mon), 04:43

I use Microsft Frontpage. easy enough to use. For photo gallery, I've been using Breezebrowser to create the gallery.

I just loaded Coppermine over the weekend and I'm not sure I like it. Perhaps need to try it out a little longer, but not sure I like it as much.

Pekka

7th of June 2004 (Mon), 05:12

ron chappel

7th of June 2004 (Mon), 05:18

Say WHAT???????????

This is why i will never bother to build a website-just too much agravation :cry: :cry: :cry:

7th of June 2004 (Mon), 05:42

Say WHAT???????????

This is why i will never bother to build a website-just too much agravation :cry: :cry: :cry:

Well, now there's an informative comment :twisted:

Care to explain what is "too much agravation"

Pekka

7th of June 2004 (Mon), 05:53

Say WHAT???????????

This is why i will never bother to build a website-just too much agravation :cry: :cry: :cry:

If you refer to "MySQL database, PHP with Imagemagick or GD support and one ftp account" this is stuff you get when you pay the server rent - you do not have to set it up, only know what you need to buy.

mson

7th of June 2004 (Mon), 10:09

I am a BIG fan of Dreamweaver. It's an amazing piece of software. Fireworks has the ability to create a web "photo album" However, if you use Exhibit Engine you don't *need* Dreamweaver or Fireworks. If you plan on doing more with your site or if you want to do more then just display your photos, I would recommend Dreamweaver & Fireworks, possibly Flash as well.

Macromedia has a free 30 day trial on all of these if you want to play with it before making your decision.

http://www.macromedia.com/software/

ScottJE22

7th of June 2004 (Mon), 10:42

It is a good idea to use a database driven system from the start.

Exhibit Engine which drives my galleries http://photography-on-the.net/gallery/index.php?groupid=1 is available on this site at http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=29266

You will basically need a server with one MySQL database, PHP with Imagemagick or GD support and one ftp account. If you like, I can set EE up for you as soon as your server is online. There is a thread with server provider recommendations in http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=26707

Add another vote for EE... :D

I have been enjoying EE very much -- it's really not that hard to set up if you're comfortable editing some text files and working with FTP. It has a little bit of a learning curve, but it has so many options that I am only scratching the surface. The hardest part for me was understanding the resize actions actions and paths. It takes a little time, but once it's configured and on your server, it's pretty much no-maintenance!

On the plus side, you upload an image one time and EE resizes it to give you thumbs, microthumbs, and however many other sizes you want. I can't tell you how much time I used to waste resizing images three or four times for HTML galleries... I would strongly advise simplifying your life by using something that will automate the presentation of your work like PHP and MySQL.

So do a little work up front, and posting your images gets a whole lot easier. I pump out an 800x when I'm ready to post and it takes me minutes.

Good luck to you, whatever you decide to use!

dsze

7th of June 2004 (Mon), 11:35

I use a combination of Flash, Dreamweaver and Photoshop.

http://home.insightbb.com/~dsze

-d

Mark Kemp

7th of June 2004 (Mon), 11:46

ScottJE22

7th of June 2004 (Mon), 11:59

For those of us just using a little bit of space that we got with our ISP accounts i.e http://www.m-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

Net Objects Fusion is a good bet, its very easy - all point and click and you can get a free macro to make simple galleries like mine.

Not a patch on EE and not as powerful as dreamweaver etc. but a good simple start if you don't need too much to begin with.

Yes - I think it bears mentioning that EE (and Coppermine IIRC) require that you either run your own webserver or "rent space" on one. This wasn't a tough choice for me -- I was paying $13/month for a TypePad blogging account. One day, it hit me that for $4/month at TotalChoiceHosting.com, I could have a ton of space, unlimited MySQL databases, PHP, host as many Movable Type blogs as I wanted, run EE, and basically have a place to experiment on the Web. It was a no-brainer.

I was specifically looking for hosts friendly to Movable Type when I came across Total Choice Hosting. They came highly recommended in the MT community. As it turned out, unlimited My SQL and PHP were perfect for EE so I decided to give that a whirl as well.

I used to use the 10MB of space that BellSouth gives me, but to tell you the truth I don't even remember how to logon to it anymore since I haven't used it in forever...

Bluelens

7th of June 2004 (Mon), 12:07

I run two sites and I use PostNuke (http://www.postnuke.com) for the main site backbone and then EE or Coppermine for the gallery.

Of course if you don't need all that power then you could use MoveableType (http://www.moveabletype.org) for postings and then EE or Coppermine for the gallery.

PostNuke is great if you want lots of options and expandability (more then one person using the site as a website, want to discuss different things/areas). MoveableType is great for a more barebones site that provides a backbone for a single person.

Yes, I like the ability to only having to change a theme or download one if I want a new look.

Mills

7th of June 2004 (Mon), 23:56

Thanks for all of the great input.

Penguin_101_1

8th of June 2004 (Tue), 00:20

Dreamweaver http://www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/?promoid=home_prod_dw_082403
I have used this software but I don't use it anymore. It is great if you have a lot of money.

kahfluie

8th of June 2004 (Tue), 04:59

Well, I'm still trying out Coppermine and I think I'll continue using it. It does make it easier than doing all the links etc... I guess I just had to get used to it.

I'll have to also look at Pekka's script. Looks like it's a good one. For now, Coppermine is it.

alsmith

9th of June 2004 (Wed), 00:19

All i have to say is MACROMEDIA

Get the MX Package and you will need not much else.

Yup

ScottJE22

9th of June 2004 (Wed), 07:16

All i have to say is MACROMEDIA

Get the MX Package and you will need not much else.

Yup

No argument on that -- but it can be expensive!! Just a hint - if you are in any way affilitated with a school (K-12, Higher Ed) you can get some serious discounts on this, and just about any other software package you could want...

Mark Kemp

9th of June 2004 (Wed), 15:36

All i have to say is MACROMEDIA

Get the MX Package and you will need not much else.

Yup

...... Except a detailed knowledge of HTML, SQL, DHTML etc etc etc

Scottes

9th of June 2004 (Wed), 15:39

I use vi

blinking8s

10th of June 2004 (Thu), 16:59

for my personal poorly shot amateur work i use SimpleViewer for a web gallery (http://www.airtightinteractive.com/simpleviewer/) which works out great because its a dynamic flash gallery and makes my life easier when i want to show off some pictures to friends and stuff

but I study web design in University

MS FrontPage is evil, for the hearts and feelings of others who do not use Internet Explorer as their browser...please avoid using this software, it writes dirty code and is extremely limited. You are better off just learning xHTML and using notepad.

a dynamic site is the best way to go, for this you would need your basic tools, photoshop/dreamweaver and even flash if you wanted to jazz it all up, but for a LARGE quantity of pics static is the way to go. Then the serverside stuff, knowing php/asp/coldfusion...just depends on what you want...but php is most peoples choice because costs are cheaper. then know your data base side, SQL or MYSQL...

a very nice open source backend for your website is TextPattern (http://www.textpattern.com) which is still under development, but looks to be extremely promising in the near future

a good host with a lot of storage that supports php/mysql is dreamhost.com (http://www.dreamhost.com/rewards.cgi?blinking8s)

for high cost projects i would host somewhere like flashlevel.net (http://www.flashlevel.net)

i have multiple acounts with both

in my arsenal i have...

Dreamweaver MX'04
Flash MX'04 Pro
Photoshop
Illustrator

and have learned or am in the process of learning...

XHTML
CSS
JavaScript
PHP
MySQL
ActionScript

ScottJE22

10th of June 2004 (Thu), 18:50

...
a very nice open source backend for your website is TextPattern (http://www.textpattern.com) which is still under development, but looks to be extremely promising in the near future
...

At a quick glance, it looks a lot like Movable Type (only still open-source -- a sore subject...). Have you used it? Might be a good MT replacement some time in the future...

blinking8s

10th of June 2004 (Thu), 20:13

I used it in its beta stage, just downloaded the most recent version, but posted in on another forum a few days ago and eveyone with CMS experience that tried it out loved it. My experience with it so far has been great, I havent tried their gallery plugin for pictures, but everything else has been awesome...the forum is great help too, and it took me about a minute to install. I cant speak too much for it now, but I am sure its official release for the 1st finished version will be awesome. As a CMS its possibilities are unlimited with the way they designed it.