Keeping EXIF data when you "Save for Web"?

[ScottJE22]

So I bought the Kelby book on PS CS for digital photographers thanks to the great press it has received on the forum...

I learned some cool tricks so far and I'm pretty excited. But I noticed that when I get to the point where I want to save an image for inclusion in my EE gallery or my deviantART gallery, I have to do a "Save for Web" to get a JPEG. But when I do that, all my EXIF data is gone!

Is there a trick that I'm missing to preserve EXIF data when you "Save for Web," or a way to save an image as a JPEG without doing "Save for Web"?

Thanks in advance!

[Scottes]

Image... Mode... 8-bit (if necessary)
File... Save As... JPG

[ScottJE22]

Image... Mode... 8-bit (if necessary)
File... Save As... JPG

Thanks, Scott. I think that was the missing link :roll: I was so pumped up about using 16-bit that I forgot that not all PS functions work unless you go back to 8-bit.

So do you typically leave your saved PSD files in 16-bit and change to 8 when you want to save a JPEG? (I'm obviously still trying to develop a workflow here that works for me...)

Thanks!

[Scottes]

Actually I just about always save in TIFF. I know, I know - it's destructive. But I have found that saving PSD is just a waste of space for me. By the time I need to generate another final image of some picture I realize that the last attempt isn't so great. So I go through the whole Capture 1 / PS CS workflow and find that the final image looks a bit (sometimes a LOT) better because I've learned a few more things. I also rarely work in adjustment layers and all those other things you're supposed to do. For the rare times that I need/want to re-do an image, I just do it all over again. I'm pretty good with both PS and C1, and I still manage to learn new tips or techniques quite frequently. My images come out better every week I think, and noticably better every month. So I'll just completely process them again, with no complaints.

HOWEVER, my recommendation is different than my practice. Always work in 16-bit mode. Do everything possible in adjustment layers. Never, ever work on the background layer - duplicate it and then click on it's eye to disable it. Try to to everything in a way that lets you adjust it down the road. Then Save As PSD and either Flatten and Save As TIFF for printing, or convert to sRGB and Save For Web if posting.

[ScottJE22]

Ah yes -- "Do as I say not as I do..."

I'm a teacher so I'm familiar with that technique :)

Thanks for the help!

[PhotosGuy]

Never, ever work on the background layer - duplicate it and then click on it's eye to disable it.

That's what I tell my students, too, but lately I've rethought it since I've been amazed at how fast I can fill up a hard drive.
Duping the Bkg layer doubles the file size & TIFs are already bigger than RAW files. Plus, I've archived the RAW files so why "archive" the Bkg layer? I can extract a new Bkg layer & just drag it into the file if I need it since I don't crop 'till one of the last steps & I save before the crop.

Does anyone see a downside to this that I don't see?

[4walls]

So I bought the Kelby book on PS CS for digital photographers thanks to the great press it has received on the forum...

I learned some cool tricks so far and I'm pretty excited. But I noticed that when I get to the point where I want to save an image for inclusion in my EE gallery or my deviantART gallery, I have to do a "Save for Web" to get a JPEG. But when I do that, all my EXIF data is gone!

Is there a trick that I'm missing to preserve EXIF data when you "Save for Web," or a way to save an image as a JPEG without doing "Save for Web"?

Thanks in advance!

PS will dump the EXIF data if you use save for web, so the easiest way to
solve this if you are doing a lot of JPG's is to create an action. You will
want to RESIZE your photo to 72dpi, then RESAMPLE to the pixel size you
want and then SAVE AS JPG. This will give you the same picture but with
the EXIF data preserved. As stated above, you will need to make sure
that the MODE is 8-bit before you do this. This would make a good "SAVE
FOR WEB WITH EXIF" action.

[ScottJE22]

PS will dump the EXIF data if you use save for web, so the easiest way to
solve this if you are doing a lot of JPG's is to create an action. You will
want to RESIZE your photo to 72dpi, then RESAMPLE to the pixel size you
want and then SAVE AS JPG. This will give you the same picture but with
the EXIF data preserved. As stated above, you will need to make sure
that the MODE is 8-bit before you do this. This would make a good "SAVE
FOR WEB WITH EXIF" action.

I'm just learning how to setup Actions for Batch processing, so this will definitely be one that I'll set up.

Thanks!

[damnengine]

So I bought the Kelby book on PS CS for digital photographers thanks to the great press it has received on the forum...

I learned some cool tricks so far and I'm pretty excited. But I noticed that when I get to the point where I want to save an image for inclusion in my EE gallery or my deviantART gallery, I have to do a "Save for Web" to get a JPEG. But when I do that, all my EXIF data is gone!

Is there a trick that I'm missing to preserve EXIF data when you "Save for Web," or a way to save an image as a JPEG without doing "Save for Web"?

Thanks in advance!

PS will dump the EXIF data if you use save for web, so the easiest way to
solve this if you are doing a lot of JPG's is to create an action. You will
want to RESIZE your photo to 72dpi, then RESAMPLE to the pixel size you
want and then SAVE AS JPG. This will give you the same picture but with
the EXIF data preserved. As stated above, you will need to make sure
that the MODE is 8-bit before you do this. This would make a good "SAVE
FOR WEB WITH EXIF" action.

You don't need to resize it to 72 dpi, just do image size to the right pixel size immediately. The DPI doesn't matter for web purposes where you use pixel sizes anyway.

[PhotosGuy]

You don't need to resize it to 72 dpi,

If you resize to 72 ppi, (that's Pixels Per Inch), then you'll get a smaller file size & the pic will load faster.

[damnengine]

You don't need to resize it to 72 dpi,

If you resize to 72 ppi, (that's Pixels Per Inch), then you'll get a smaller file size & the pic will load faster.

No. If you have your image size in pixels, it doesn't matter how much dpi or ppi it is. 600x600 px @ 72 ppi is the same size as 600x600 px @ 300 ppi.

[PhotosGuy]

No. If you have your image size in pixels, it doesn't matter how much dpi or ppi it is. 600x600 px @ 72 ppi is the same size as 600x600 px @ 300 ppi.

You're right! I tried it in P$hop & the size is the same. But, I would still post at 72 ppi w/low compression & little sharpening to discourage piracy.

[4walls]

Sorry, you do not need to do the 72dpi of course. The only way that makes a difference is if you are printing the picture.

[LouDawg]

Sorry, you do not need to do the 72dpi of course. The only way that makes a difference is if you are printing the picture.

Correct.

[Richard_Miami]

PS will dump the EXIF data if you use save for web, so the easiest way to
solve this if you are doing a lot of JPG's is to create an action. You will
want to RESIZE your photo to 72dpi, then RESAMPLE to the pixel size you
want and then SAVE AS JPG. This will give you the same picture but with
the EXIF data preserved. As stated above, you will need to make sure
that the MODE is 8-bit before you do this. This would make a good "SAVE
FOR WEB WITH EXIF" action.


Thank you very much Mr. Walls. I had been planning a simple action but putting it off for a while. After reading this, I recorded it and tested it, both as a stand alone action and as an action launched by Adobe Bridge on a multiple selection. Works like a charm! :D

Very much appreciated!

[davidbell]

I like using Save For Web for various reasons, but would like to keep EXIF, anyone know if its possible a couple of years on to do this?

Some option somewhere in PS, maybe in CS3?

PS

Just reading this old thread reminded me about The Myth Of DPI (http://www.rideau-info.com/photos/mythdpi.html)

[billsparks]

I just created an action to do this.

http://billsparks.deviantart.com/art/Save-For-Web-With-EXIF-CS4-145916188