We obviously just don't get it

[ssim]

I went to a local camera club exposition tonight that was focussed on nature. You know there wasn't one justabird there. They had the audacity to actually have a name on each slide.

Geesh.

:D :D

[ndh]

I'm trying to learn bird names but you know, there are just too many birds to fit on my laminated quick-reference card! :wink:

This forum has given me "a few" hints on what red-winged blackbirds look like, though. :)

[robertwgross]

I went to a local camera club exposition tonight that was focussed on nature. You know there wasn't one justabird there. They had the audacity to actually have a name on each slide.


I'm curious. At your club, are the photographs shown on real slide transparencies, or digitally projected, or digitally on a large LCD screen?

Now that Kodak has gone out of the business of slide projectors, things will change rapidly.

---Bob Gross---

[ssim]

The slides were shown on a slide projector and the digital on a lcd projector.

I just joined this club a few weeks ago. It is coming up to the end of season and I got there just in time for the digital competition last week and the slide competition this week. They really don't give digital the attention and credit that it is due. They are just starting to put more emphasis on digital and that is why I joined, perhaps I can learn something (cause it ain't happening hangin around Ian :roll: )

The LCD projectors of today are great for giving your powerpoint presentations but they don't give justice to a good image. This was evidenced in the judging. I was sitting behind the person running the laptop and the difference between it's screen (which are not great to begin with) and the projected image was big. At last night's slide competition they images were much better on the big screen.

The judging last night was the way it should have been. First they run through all the slides. Then they start over and let the judge look at the image for a few seconds. They then judge on (in last night's case it was nature night) the nature value and then are judged on its technical merit and composition. The digital competition was done with the judges not being able to see all the images and then just one mark for the whole image. The image that won was in the first five shown and (it was nice) they gave a high mark but after that they seemed to judged all others agains that one. To make a long story short I didn't like the way the digital competition was judged, particularly after I saw how they handled the slide competition.

[CyberDyneSystems]

It is curious to hear about who exactly is still dragging there feet re: Digital..

Film obviously is still viable.. and will allways have some place.. but that "place" is diminshing so quickly it is almost frightening.. Robets point about Kodak being a perfect example...

Fuji had established an early and solid foothold in the digital camera business... they saw the writing on the wall...

It seems to me that in not much more than the last year and a half the "realm" of digital has completely eclipsed film.

RE: LCD Projectors Vs. Slides.. absolutely.. LCD projectors need to some a long way.. but also to the point.. the varying degrees of qulity amongst them is astronomical.. as is the price. There are affordable options around $1,000.00 right now.. but compared to a 10,000.00 "Big gun" they look like "poop"

Really.. I don't imagine anything that will beat a good slide for a looooooong time.

Bird ID: One of my reference books is over 1,000 pages... :roll:

That's one book... just focusing on the North Eastern US...

I suppose if we really want to be able to ID all these little buggers.. we need to get a diploma from Cornell... :)

[jboyd]

Does your camera club always judge digital as a seperate division?? My club does not really seperate digital. I shoot exclusively digital, have prints made, and enter them in print competitions. Granted, I do not do extreme manipulations on them. Usually levels, saturation ... that type of thing. When I first joined the club they did not know they were digital prints as compared to prints from film. And I have placed in competitions.

Our annual Salon competition does have a seperate division for digitally altered, but most of mine were still entered in the print division. Next year I do want to try to have some slides made from my digital images to enter the slide division. But, they do not always turn out great.

Jackie Boyd

[robertwgross]

I attended the meeting of an outdoor club, and one person was presenting a "digital slide show" using an LCD projector. Unfortunately, the projector was not good, the resolution was not good, the dynamic range was not good, etc.

For the fifty people sitting in the back of the room, they saw some pleasant images on the screen. For three of us photographers sitting on the front row, it looked terrible.

The good LCD projectors these days do about 1 megapixel or a little better. So that is just a fraction of your total image data if you are using a typical modern digital camera.

---Bob Gross---