POTNAC Newcastle meet (Australia)

[ofdphoto]

EDIT: This might as well be a general Newie sub-thread until someone starts another one. So until further notice, we'll plan Newcastle POTN stuff in here. K?

This is the official planning thread for our first big POTNAC (POTN Aussie Club) Newcastle meet. Since there are so many of us now.

So here are the objectives:

1.) Pick a date within 1 month of today (17/7). Preferably a Saturday (unless I'm wrong about this conflicting least with work, church and sunlight).
2.) Pick a venue within 20-30 minutes drive of Newcastle's CBD to go walking/shooting/whatever together.
3.) Organise car pooling for those who need it (or just to be green).
4.) Do it!

Go forth and discuss!

[Jim G]

I'm in!

I can do either Sat. the 28th or Sat. the 4th.

Venue? Hmmm.

I can drive people if they want :)

[llenuts]

Ill go third and discuss, not quite forth yet...

Unfortunately due to work, I can't guarantee any Saturday available. But if the date is set, I can try my best to get the day off. (Saturday overtime rates for an apprentice make a big difference to the weekly pay!)

As for a venue, anywhere I guess, I'm yet to take any decent photos, (at all!) so anywhere will be fine by me!

I have my own transport, and if work permits and I can attend, I'm also happy to drive others.

Now goes fourth!

[Jim G]

C'mon other Novocastrians, post post post :p

[ofdphoto]

Well, Saturday the 28th is out ... because 1.) it's tomorrow and 2.) (not meaning to be selfish, but ...) I'm going to be in Sydney all day.

So let's aim to do something on the 4th.

I propose a sunrise+breakfast+chimping timeslot, but if that's not do-able for others maybe we can go later in the day. My initial thoughts on location:

* Somewhere coastal (Jim, you've been doing this recently so maybe you could suggest a location).
* Somewhere on the road to Maitland (around Hexham) -- there tends to be low-lying fog there early in the morning and *from memory* there might be some nice spots to stop and go walking around the river. (Alright, some research required.)

Would an early timeslot help with your work, llenuts?

Just my thoughts. Feedback welcome. Anyone with better ideas can feel free to take over :-D

[Old Fart]

I'm up for this too (if you can tolerate a nutter like myself)

Richmond Vale Railway Museum might make for interesting photos

[llenuts]

So let's aim to do something on the 4th.



The 4th would suit me well, as I know I won't be working that weekend.

Any place suits me, and for a time slot, anytime is fine by me, I will just go home and back to bed afterwards!

Ohh, and a chance to try out my new 580EXII would be good too, along with someone who can show me the fancy things it can do!

[AdamC]

Um ok, I have nothing to add here but felt bad I hadn't posted yet.. :oops:

I don't have any suggestions, but I'll try to make it when it's decided.

[Jim G]

Well, Saturday the 28th is out ... because 1.) it's tomorrow and 2.) (not meaning to be selfish, but ...) I'm going to be in Sydney all day.

So let's aim to do something on the 4th.

I propose a sunrise+breakfast+chimping timeslot, but if that's not do-able for others maybe we can go later in the day. My initial thoughts on location:

* Somewhere coastal (Jim, you've been doing this recently so maybe you could suggest a location).
* Somewhere on the road to Maitland (around Hexham) -- there tends to be low-lying fog there early in the morning and *from memory* there might be some nice spots to stop and go walking around the river. (Alright, some research required.)

Would an early timeslot help with your work, llenuts?

Just my thoughts. Feedback welcome. Anyone with better ideas can feel free to take over :-D

Well my next sunrise idea actually involved cemetaries... have yet to see how that one'll pan out tho :p Actually... the Porkers are playing on the evening of the 3rd so if we are doing a sunrise one I'm gonna be pretty buggered.

Hey, we could always do a zoo trip.. Cessnock Zoo anyone? I haven't been there but apparently it's alright...

[Jim G]

Richmond Vale Railway Museum might make for interesting photos

You know, I've heard of this place but aren't sure where it is... Google to the rescue! :p

[eXc450]

For me to be there, not the 11th. 4th is best for me if it's finished by 11am as my girly is doing a concert.

I have no idea for a venue. But I have no artistic streak (yet!)

[ofdphoto]

Okay ... so it's looking like a sunrise shoot of some sort, followed by brekkie somewhere nearby, perhaps followed by an optional museum visit.

Jim, any particular cemeteries you had in mind? What do others think of this? I'm keen ...

Please throw any more ideas you might have into the mix. If no-one else steps in earlier, I'll make a final decision for us on Friday morning. Meanwhile, if those who are planning to be there could please PM me their mobile number, email address, suburb and car situation (seats needed/available), I'll coordinate the transport.

Cool!

[Jim G]

I was actually thinking of Stockton cemetary - though that's got me thinking....

I've never actually tried but how easy would it be to access the sand dunes from the road further up towards the Bay? There are some damn big sand dunes along there and that could be very cool with some sunrise/morning light happening. Haven't been there since I have a car, though (boy, that's been a while) and I always used to walk there from quite a ways back - which is obviously not any good at that hour of the morning.

I also need to sus out whether the Stockton cemetary has anything interesting in it at all - I might pop around there tomorrow or the day after to do a quick assessment for shootable things ;)

[eXc450]

I've just PMd you with my mobile. Hopefully you guys can teach me some stuff, cause I am far from knowing what I am doing! haha

[Jim G]

I might pop across to Stockton sometime in the next couple of hours to check out what's happening.. google might also come to the rescue with some answers re: whether the dunes are possible. Is anyone interested in the dunes idea for something different?

[ofdphoto]

Loving your ideas so far Jim ...

[AdamC]

I might pop across to Stockton sometime in the next couple of hours to check out what's happening.. google might also come to the rescue with some answers re: whether the dunes are possible. Is anyone interested in the dunes idea for something different?

I'm 99% sure that the sand dunes at Stockton are pretty inaccessible, unless you like 2 hour hikes or have a 4WD vehicle. My partner used to 4WD in that area years ago.

[Jim G]

I'm 99% sure that the sand dunes at Stockton are pretty inaccessible, unless you like 2 hour hikes or have a 4WD vehicle. My partner used to 4WD in that area years ago.

Yes, yes that's true as I've found out thisevening. Can't borrow my parents 4WD on this short notice so that's out! :(

Could always do Sandgate cemetary if we want a cemetary one - that's big enough to accomodate many photographers ;)

[ofdphoto]

Thanks for checking that out Jim ... I would have thought there were more dune photo ops than that too!! Great to know in advance.

Okay, here's my proposal:

* Sunrise shoot at Sandgate Cemetery.
* If it's not working out, we can just drive a bit further up the highway and find something better.
* Breakfast & chimp Hexham Maccas.
* For those who are able/keen, head on over to Cessnock zoo for a few hours (or as long as you please). It opens at 9am and costs $12/head. (I checked out the railway museum and interesting stuff only happens on Sundays ... great thing to aim for next time though!)

Thoughts?

If you're coming, please PM me with aforementioned details (thanks for those who have already ... I'll get back to y'all soon). At this stage with people's varied commitments it might be best for most of us to get ourselves to Sandgate and carpool from there, but let me know your transport status anyway and if it makes sense I'll coordinate something more organised.

Coolness!

[AdamC]

One idea my partner had when I mentioned this thread, was Shortland Wetlands. I've never been there myself, but I imagine it would be full of subject matter for the birders among us.

So has the date been decided yet?

[ofdphoto]

Wetlands .. another good idea .. and conveniently, also close to the cemetery :-)

Meet is this Saturday.

Thanks Adam!

[AdamC]

Meet is this Saturday.

That rules me out, I have my son this weekend. Have fun guys!

[ofdphoto]

That rules me out, I have my son this weekend. Have fun guys!

We'll miss you :-(

Next time you can pick the date ... should happen soon I reckon ...

[AdamC]

We'll miss you :-(

Thanks Luke. I admit that getting up early enough for a dawn meet would be a hell of a struggle anyway.. :) I won't miss out entirely, I'll be busily shooting my son's soccer match - last chance before the end of the season.

[eXc450]

so are we meeting at the cemetary or maccas? What time?

[Jim G]

Wetlands .. another good idea .. and conveniently, also close to the cemetery :-)

Meet is this Saturday.

Thanks Adam!

Ooh! Wetlands.. I like this idea. I haven't got the lens length for birding unless they're real close but that sounds like awesome fun.

[ofdphoto]

I suggest meeting at the cemetery at 6.30am ish. Sunrise is officially 6.42am. I'd say it wouldn't hurt to be a bit later than that, but I'll be aiming for 6.30 myself. We'll probably still be there until 7.30-8ish, after which we can take a vote on wetlands or Cessnock Zoo. (I think I'll be voting for the zoo ... save wetlands until Adam can join in).

We should be specific about which part of Sandgate cemetery we want to meet at too, I guess. Google Earth, here I come ...

[eXc450]

We should be specific about which part of Sandgate cemetery we want to meet at too, I guess. Google Earth, here I come ...

I think the place with most parking, is west bound (towards maitland) on the highway.

May be worth posting up what our cars our too - Cause I haven't met anyone.

I have a green (looks black at night) suzuki vitara 4x4, and a silver 4 door skyline (not sure which I will be bringing yet)

[ofdphoto]

Agreed on the location.

I will be in either a Blue/Silver Camry wagon or a very crappy looking green Corolla (my brother's car -- he's away atm).

[eXc450]

Weather is looking dodgy today, but it may work out ok.

Luke - Can you PM me your mobile number in case I can't find you guys?

http://www.abc.net.au/newcastle/weather/#Newcastle

[eXc450]

I am having a really dodgy day, I am pretty sick. I'll message you if I am not coming Luke. Hoping to be better by the morning

[Jim G]

If it's raining are we calling it off?

[Jim G]

Also, car's a red CE Lancer wagon.

[llenuts]

Yep, not working tomorrow, so consider me there if I manage to drag my ass outta bed!

Ill be in a black EJ Holden

Anyone keen to decide on some wet weather plans just in case?

[Jim G]

I'm out to see the Porkers at the Cambo tonight - should be an awesome gig. I'll be there in the morning unless it's pouring down rain - assumedly we'll reschedule or come up with something else if it's raining?

[ofdphoto]

Hey all ... sorry I'm checking in a bit late. We had guests over for dinner.

I think everyone who's PM'd me has my mobile number ...

I'll be waking up at 5.30 ish and will consult the clouds. If it's looking ugly I think we should postpone, especially as two people won't be able to make it tomorrow anyway.

Otherwise proceed as planned. Rain = bad. Some clouds = ok ;-)

[Jim G]

Sounds good. I'll be up at, hm, six at this rate. See y'all tomorrow morning assuming it's not rainy ;) Some clouds could be quite nice for atmosphere in a cemetary :)

[ofdphoto]

Sky is lookin' good. Cya all at the dead centre shortly.

[Jim G]

Sounds good to me. Can't see a cloud in the sky from where I'm sitting ;)

[eXc450]

How did it go? I really wanted to go. I hope it went well enought that you guys want to organise another.

Any pics from the day?

I am still sick. Got really bad last night, it's lucky I didn't go, I think I would have ended up having an accident, I wasn't very alert, so driving wouldn't be the best idea.

[eXc450]

nevermind, I found the thread.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=357961

[AdamC]

How did it go? I really wanted to go. I hope it went well enought that you guys want to organise another.

Any pics from the day?

I am still sick. Got really bad last night, it's lucky I didn't go, I think I would have ended up having an accident, I wasn't very alert, so driving wouldn't be the best idea.

Sorry you're not well mate. Hope you're feeling better soon.

[ofdphoto]

Awright evvybody ...

Let's start figuring out another meet, wot?

Throw your ideas and availability into the mix. Someone (possibly me) will step in at an opportune time to make a final decision for us all and look after organising the details.

Talk!

[AdamC]

Availability might be tricky for me as I have a few things going on, but I'll let others set the date and I'll endeavour to be there. Early mornings are pretty much out for me though, just can't do it :)

As for locations, all I can think of at the moment is the Wetlands.

[Hairyman]

If we are working on Saturdays then I am available for the 3rd, 10th and 24th of November.

Early in the morning is good for me.

I was thinking about "Architecture".

[eXc450]

anyone else have a 4x4? How about a sunrise at the Sygna (Stockton Beach) followed by a (half?) day of just stuffin around on beach?

ED. said he was gonna come out sometime, so that could be our second 4x4. It would be an early start to get there by sunrise. i haven't actually been to the Sygna before, But I'd imagine we'd need 30 mins from leaving the carpark to getting there

I can take my 4x4 plus 2 people (3 if you dont mind being squished) but I don't want to go out alone...so......


opinions?

I am avaialbe only Saturdays, and avaialable 10th, 17th november (and 24th...except that's voting day)

Chris

[Jim G]

I like the Wetlands idea though I do only have 135mm of reach (well, more if you take into account crop factor but meh)... Can't get too many faraway birdies with that.


I really like the Stockton idea - I may be able to scab Dad's 4WD as we've taken it out to Stockton before (then I took it up and around Fraser Island) and I've got all the appropriat recovery gear and whatnot if necessary :p Heck, he may even want to come.. though he's not into photography as much so he may feel a little left out :p

If we can come up with a date I can sus out the availability of the vehicle - lemme go look at my roster...

Oh and as Joshua mentioned last night on MSN, after daylight savings kicks in it'll be easier to get up for sunrise as it won't be so damned early :p

[eXc450]

Is it worth knowing everyone MSN if you use it?

Mine is exc450@gmail.com during the day (at work...but I am mobile so it depends on where I am if I will be on)

[ofdphoto]

MSN: linarms@yahoo.com
Skype: linarms

[Old Fart]

The MG Car Club has a hillclimb at Ringwood on November the 18th
If Mattara has wet the appetite for motorsport photography.

[Hairyman]

I probably just have the early mornng to spend on a Saturday before needing to ferry around the kids. I don't have a 4WD so it'd be a pain for anyone to drive me there and back for only a short while.

I have more time on Sundays generally.

The Wetlands sound good.

I'm at work on the 18th, so I could not get to the hillclimb (although that would be very cool).

[AdamC]

I'm liking the Sygna idea (although I said dawn stuff wasn't doable) - I've never actually been there and have wanted to for ages. I'd have to ride with someone else though. 4x4ing is definitely something that you want at least 2 vehicles for though. I could manage saturdays but sundays would definitely be better for me.

I wouldn't mind the hillclimb idea, but last weekend showed me that my lens is too slow for such work - seems to struggle to keep up when using AI Servo mode.

MSN: zaphod_1969@hotmail.com

[Old Fart]

We could always settle for sunset shots from the brewery wharf
be a pity to have to sit and wait for the perfect shot while enjoying an ale or 2.

[llenuts]

We could always settle for sunset shots from the brewery wharf
be a pity to have to sit and wait for the perfect shot while enjoying an ale or 2.

Now thats a brilliant idea!

I'm keen for either day, and any time too. So consider me as just a part of the crowd.

Also I've got no idea where to go, so wherever, suits me!

Msn: llenuts@hotmail.com

[ofdphoto]

Church commitments on Sundays make it impossible for me (unless it's a sunrise shoot and I can get home by 9.30am) ... but that doesn't preclude a meet happening in my absence, by any means!!

[Jim G]

I'm liking the Sygna idea (although I said dawn stuff wasn't doable) - I've never actually been there and have wanted to for ages. I'd have to ride with someone else though. 4x4ing is definitely something that you want at least 2 vehicles for though. I could manage saturdays but sundays would definitely be better for me.

I wouldn't mind the hillclimb idea, but last weekend showed me that my lens is too slow for such work - seems to struggle to keep up when using AI Servo mode.

MSN: zaphod_1969@hotmail.com

We walked to the Sygna one time from Stockton... damn did that take a long time and walking on sand sucks :p Then of course we had to walk back...

Ok, if we had to arbitrarily pick a day to see whether everyone's free on it... how's, say, Saturday the 17th of November for everyone? That's three weekends away..

Any other arbitrary selection of days welcome ;)

[AdamC]

We walked to the Sygna one time from Stockton... damn did that take a long time and walking on sand sucks

That's why I haven't been yet :)

[Hairyman]

Sorry can't make the 17th.

[Old Fart]

You walked to the Sygna from Stockton, you should see a therapist about that
I'm sure there's an illness for symptoms like that :)

I'll see closer to the day if I can make the 17th.

[ofdphoto]

Is there only person who definitely can't make the 17th?

If so, we might tentatively run with that date. No need to finalise other stuff for another week or so ...

Keep weighing in on ideas or throwing your own into the mix :-)

[Jim G]

You walked to the Sygna from Stockton, you should see a therapist about that
I'm sure there's an illness for symptoms like that :)

I'll see closer to the day if I can make the 17th.

We also stopped half-way to drag a massive log up a sand-dune that was covered in broken glass for no reason other than to sit on it at the top. I think we had too many guys and not enough girls on that walk... I blame it on rampaging teenager-itis :p

[eXc450]

Went out to the Sygna on Saturday just to have a look-see. It was an easy trip. only took us 10-20 mins from the beach entry. Expect a lot of sand/sea spray on your camera, it seems to always be windy at Stockton Beach.

The extra 2-3 guys with me would make a substantial wieght difference, but I don't think we should have any problems as far as getting stuck goes.

For those that don't want to stay out for other than the sunrise, it wouldn't be a big deal to drop you back at the entry point.

[Hairyman]

A very kind offer for people with limited time. I'm stuck on-call for work all day I'm afraid.

[Jim G]

Went out to the Sygna on Saturday just to have a look-see. It was an easy trip. only took us 10-20 mins from the beach entry. Expect a lot of sand/sea spray on your camera, it seems to always be windy at Stockton Beach.

The extra 2-3 guys with me would make a substantial wieght difference, but I don't think we should have any problems as far as getting stuck goes.

For those that don't want to stay out for other than the sunrise, it wouldn't be a big deal to drop you back at the entry point.

2-4 guys with a few bucket-loads of camera gear... ;)

I ought to find out in the next couple of days if I can scab a 4WD myself so no real biggie if one does get slightly stuck...


Well, who's keen and able to make the 17th? Lemme go find out what time sunrise is nowadays... yay for daylight savings making it slightly more palatable :p

[eXc450]

I can make 17th as long as its confirmed sooner rather than later.

[ofdphoto]

17th: lock it in Eddie.

At this stage it's looking like a Stocko 4WD adventure.

[eXc450]

Cool...*Adds to Calandar*

Someone want to work out a meet time?

I would suggest we meet at The Metro at the round about on Lavis Lane (williamtown?..not the airport one..the other one) 60 minutes before sun is due to come up. That gives us 45 minutes to get out there and 15 mins to setup and meet each other. I'd suggest if you are bring a 4x4, you come 70 minutes before sunrise to give you time to get a beach pass if you need it and let tyres down ready to go ($30 for a year, $10 for 3 days)

If anyone has a body board with a plastic/fibreglass base, bring it a long for some sand boarding action :D

We can meet earlier if others think we should?
Attached is a pic of my car - It's the middle one - A green Suzuki Vitara.

I can't see there being many others meeting there, but then again, I think fisherman go out at that sort of time? so there could be lots of 4x4s there.

[eXc450]

All we need now is confirmed numbers plus a 2nd 4x4....

[eXc450]

http://www.ga.gov.au/bin/gazmap_sunrise?placename=Stockton&placetype=H&state=NSW#loc



STOCKTON BEACH Lat=-32°49'00" Long=+151°54'00"
TIMES OF SUNRISE AND SUNSET
(for ideal horizon & meteorological conditions)
Time zone: +11.00 hours
17/11/2007 Rise 05:42 Set 1932


Computed using National Mapping Division's sunrisenset program, version 2.2

[eXc450]

Hmm...well I hit a snag today, I was under the car and I have a cracked gearbox cross member....I will be chasing one tommorow, but if I can't source one, that could be a problem...but hey! It's 2 weeks away, so it should be fine

[AdamC]

Alrighty, I'm in!

Just want to restate what I said earlier, we should be considering at least two vehicles as mandatory. 4x4ing in one vehicle isn't on. :)

I'll be driving one of these:

http://curreytech.net/albums/th_magna/abf.sized.jpg

[ofdphoto]

Is one of the Magnas an AWD ??

:-D

Hopefully another 4WD will surface before the big day. Still more than 2 weeks to sort out details. If no POTN'ers surface with a 4WD, I'll hassle some of my 4WD friends ...

[AdamC]

Is one of the Magnas an AWD ??


Yup :) The white one, my fiancee's car. I don't think it would fare well in the dunes though. :)

[ofdphoto]

Wimp.

:-P

[Jim G]

All we need now is confirmed numbers plus a 2nd 4x4....

I'm up for it - I'll try and confirm 4WD today, will definitely know over the weekend if not today.

[Jim G]

4WD confirmed - Dad's coming along, too ;) That means we have room for two or three and camera gear as there's bucketloads of room in the 4WD.

[eXc450]

Good Stuff.

I am hoping to get a Gearbox cross member today, so I should have that fixed tommorow.

[Jim G]

So that's, what, five people (and two 4wds, pending cross member) confirmed so far? Anyone else? :p

[::John::]

Hey guys

Please go say 'hi' to another new Central Coast member (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=31)

I am sure he could benefit from your fellowship. ;)

[Jim G]

Hey guys

Please go say 'hi' to another new Central Coast member (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=31)

I am sure he could benefit from your fellowship. ;)

I wonder if he'll want to come along to Stockton? :p

[my name is always taken]

hi guys
just want to know when your doing your stockton dunes shot ? would be interested in coming ,have car but can't get far on sand (toyota camry) what date and times would you be going ?? would like to meet others in the industry.

maybe if i ask work then i might might be able to get a 4be too.......
thanks
clint

[AdamC]

hi guys
just want to know when your doing your stockton dunes shot ? would be interested in coming ,have car but can't get far on sand (toyota camry) what date and times would you be going ?? would like to meet others in the industry.

maybe if i ask work then i might might be able to get a 4be too.......
thanks
clint

Hi Clint. Looks like it's on for the 17th. No firm meetup plans so far, but this is what we have so far:


I would suggest we meet at The Metro at the round about on Lavis Lane (williamtown?..not the airport one..the other one) 60 minutes before sun is due to come up. That gives us 45 minutes to get out there and 15 mins to setup and meet each other. I'd suggest if you are bring a 4x4, you come 70 minutes before sunrise to give you time to get a beach pass if you need it and let tyres down ready to go ($30 for a year, $10 for 3 days)

If anyone has a body board with a plastic/fibreglass base, bring it a long for some sand boarding action :D

We can meet earlier if others think we should?
Attached is a pic of my car - It's the middle one - A green Suzuki Vitara.

I can't see there being many others meeting there, but then again, I think fisherman go out at that sort of time? so there could be lots of 4x4s there.

[my name is always taken]

Sounds good
ill keep myself open for that time.
like i said i can try and get a 4x4 from work but im sure there pretty anal about not lending them out for stuff like this....but ill ask. and i never knoew you need'd a pass for there ? last ime i went i did'nt have one. oops.......


any way ill stay tuned.

thanks

[Jim G]

Hi Clint. Looks like it's on for the 17th. No firm meetup plans so far, but this is what we have so far:

Some have said that it's easier to get to the wreck by entering the beach at the turnoff on Fullerton Rd. about a km from the bridge turnoff and just going straight up the beach there - anyone got good info about the quickest/best way?

[AdamC]

Some have said that it's easier to get to the wreck by entering the beach at the turnoff on Fullerton Rd. about a km from the bridge turnoff and just going straight up the beach there - anyone got good info about the quickest/best way?


My fiancee did a lot of 4x4ing in that area in her younger days, and she says what you're referring to was known as the 'black track' which is an illegal access and may not even still exist (there is a new housing estate in the area.) The only two legitimate accesses are Lavis Lane, and Bribie Point, neither of which she says are a good idea in the dark..

Edit: Correction. Sounds like they're referring to the Cox's Lane access, which is for the sand mine only and is gated off.

[Jim G]

My fiancee did a lot of 4x4ing in that area in her younger days, and she says what you're referring to was known as the 'black track' which is an illegal access and may not even still exist (there is a new housing estate in the area.) The only two legitimate accesses are Lavis Lane, and Bribie Point, neither of which she says are a good idea in the dark..

Edit: Correction. Sounds like they're referring to the Cox's Lane access, which is for the sand mine only and is gated off.

Good to know that info!

The Bribie Point place is easy enough to get onto the beach from... I reckon that'd be doable in the predawn light with care. I haven't been able to get to Lavis Lane when it wasn't flooded out so I haven't got much idea about that one...

[AdamC]

Good to know that info!

The Bribie Point place is easy enough to get onto the beach from... I reckon that'd be doable in the predawn light with care. I haven't been able to get to Lavis Lane when it wasn't flooded out so I haven't got much idea about that one...

Yeah I think Bribie point would be easiest and safest, but then we've got a fair drive back down the beach (40Km speed limit) dodging fishermen. Will just need to take it slow and careful. :)

[ofdphoto]

Alright looks like this is all going ahead for the 17th. I'm planning to be there but am shooting a ball the night before, a wedding reception that afternoon and a baby dedication on the Sunday, so I may be somewhat stuffed. I'll post a few firm details and start collecting people's details etc. later this week. If I can't be there I'll hand over the data to ... let's see ... Chris. Thanks for the research everyone (and for the PM, Chris).

[eXc450]

I am the Chris, Luke is refering to.

Lavis lane is the quickest way in. I haven't had any problems going through there. I did help dig out a hilux last weekend though! haha, darn city folk ;) Birbui is easy as to get in, but it's also 20 mins further on the road, plus I'd say 30+ on the sand. Lavis is our best option unless the other 4x4 is scared of going down to 18psi or lower.

My dad would also like to come along, but he will drop out if we need the space for one of you's.


I'd be estimating meeting at 4:15 to leave at 4:30.The sun will apparently rise around 5:30. That gives us about an hour to get out to the wreck (I think we would need about 20-30 mins if we have no problems..so that gives us a bit of room)

Cheers
Chris

[eXc450]

Stockton Beach - Sygna POTN Meet Details

CHECK THIS POST FOR UPDATES over the next 2 weeks

DATE : 17th November 2007

TIME: 4:15am meet to leave servo at 4:30am. (4x4 drivers come early if you need beach pass)

PLACE : Metro Service Station, Williamtown, at roundabout, corner of Lavis Lane/Nelson Bay Rd/Cabbage Tree Rd (Search www.whereis.com.au (http://www.whereis.com.au) for "Lavis Lane" "Williamtown") We will get everyone to drive their car to the beach access point, but we will meet at the servo first.

BRING: Camera gear, Lunch in case we are out a while. Body board for sand boarding if you have one. Hat/Sunnies (strongly suggest sunnies)

OTHER STUFF: Take your rubbish home with you. We want Stockton Beach to keep 4x4 access. Respect the owners 4x4's so they are willing to do it again if we want to. We will be in the dark on the way to the Sygna, so driving lights are recommended. Be extra careful reversing back down hills especially if you don't have rear lights.





Total Seats Available;(14)

eXc450 - 4
Jim G - 4?
My name is always taken (Clint) - 2
John (my mate) 3 or 4


Confirmed (10);


eXc450 (me/Chris) + Dad(Russell)
Jim G + Dad
Adam C + Friend
My name is always taken (Clint)
Linarms (Luke)
John (my mate) + his mate + a Pajero (as long as he wakes up)


Maybes (0);



Can't Make it on the 17th;

Hairyman
Old Fart (Plus a Zook!)


So that means if the Maybe's come, we are pretty much full already. If you're name isn't on the list, let me know, if you are not in the right category, let me know.

Please PM me your mobile number if you are happy to do so.

Cheers
Chris

[ofdphoto]

Alrighty, it looks like Chris is taking over! Thanks mate ... happy to abdicate ... ;-)

I'm also happy to stay on the "maybe" list until the last minute ... that way others are free to join the fun. I don't mind not going on this one if it means more fun for someone else ... especially given the other craziness of the weekend for me.

Will watch with interest :)

[Jim G]

I am the Chris, Luke is refering to.

Lavis lane is the quickest way in. I haven't had any problems going through there. I did help dig out a hilux last weekend though! haha, darn city folk ;) Birbui is easy as to get in, but it's also 20 mins further on the road, plus I'd say 30+ on the sand. Lavis is our best option unless the other 4x4 is scared of going down to 18psi or lower.





Pfft, 18 psi.. I spent a week at or below 15 :p

[eXc450]

Good stuff :)

I also have another friend that may come which means heaps of room. But he hasn't confirmed so...

[Old Fart]

If I can make the day I'll bring "She who must be obeyed"'s Suzuki
must be about time I got it axle deep in sand again.

[eXc450]

Cool!

[eXc450]

Hey Jim (and others),

Any chance you could bring along your radio triggers and flash's if they aren't a huge setup? I would love to have a play with this as I want to go down this route in a year or so, but have never seen it outside of photos.

I would also love a run down on how to use flash cause I only have the on board flash which I will be going to a 580 or something early next year.

[Jim G]

Hey Jim (and others),

Any chance you could bring along your radio triggers and flash's if they aren't a huge setup? I would love to have a play with this as I want to go down this route in a year or so, but have never seen it outside of photos.

I would also love a run down on how to use flash cause I only have the on board flash which I will be going to a 580 or something early next year.

Yeah, sure... I'll probably have a total of 3 flashes still by the time this outing comes around so you can have a play with the infrared ETTL too :p

[ofdphoto]

I can bring my pocketwizards ...

[Jim G]

I can bring my pocketwizards ...


ooh please do! I'd love to have a look at those. it'll put my cheap ones to shame ;)

[my name is always taken]

hi all
just want to confirm that i can make it .
just found out today that i can get work's troopy , "big v8 turbo mate" with loads of room on the back as its a tray back.. and there's an extra seat for anyone who wants it......

eXc450 sent you a post with deatils thanks

see you there

[Jim G]

hi all
just want to confirm that i can make it .
just found out today that i can get work's troopy , "big v8 turbo mate" with loads of room on the back as its a tray back.. and there's an extra seat for anyone who wants it......

eXc450 sent you a post with deatils thanks

see you there

Love the troopies! That'll be fun :p

[eXc450]

Hey Clint,

V8s can be hard on the sand if you are new to it - Have you driven it much? Have you had it on the sand at all? It's great that you can get it, but if it causes us problems and we miss the sunset...

but if you have taken it on the beach before it should be ok... I will leave it up to you to decide :)

[::John::]

Hey Clint,

V8s can be hard on the sand if you are new to it - Have you driven it much? Have you had it on the sand at all? It's great that you can get it, but if it causes us problems and we miss the sunset...

but if you have taken it on the beach before it should be ok... I will leave it up to you to decide :)

Sunset?

How long are you guys gonna be out there?

[my name is always taken]

sent you a message

yeh have taken another troopie there before, driven it alot as it's out the front now, and use it for work regularly. so im used to the power and it taking off ....

i know not to plant it on take off.

should be fine............ i hope... haha

im pretty confident in driving in that situation.

[AdamC]

hmm.. makes me want to borrow a 6x6 'cruiser from work.. I wish..

[eXc450]

haha sunset...i meant sunrise...

[Jim G]

Had a chat to a fellow who's been 4WD'ing quite a bit and he recommended the Birubi entrance as a safer bet than Lavis Lane... might take 20 mins more but if we got stuck it'd take a lot longer :p He said it would be quite easy to get off the beaten track on Lavis and get stuck in the soft sand between dunes..

[my name is always taken]

just wondering what type of 4x4 vehicle's are going to be there?

can't wait to go there again. be fun :)

[my name is always taken]

like i mean what are you guy's taking ?????

not in general.

[Jim G]

like i mean what are you guy's taking ?????

not in general.

A new Rav4, which is Dad's... I took it up and around Fraser Island for a week a couple of months ago and it proved to be capable offroad.. we've also played around in the sand dunes at the northern end of Stockton once. Darn good fun!

Dad's coming, too :p

[my name is always taken]

sweet
i've been there once before in another troopy and had loads of fun .
can't wait to go there and do it again.
driving in the dark is going to be tricky though...

[Jim G]

sweet
i've been there once before in another troopy and had loads of fun .
can't wait to go there and do it again.
driving in the dark is going to be tricky though...

Well... from what I've mucked around in at Birubi that ought to be easy enough to access the beach from in the pre-dawn light... Lavis Lane is meant to be rather a lot harder in the dark and worse to get bogged in if you ride off the track.

[my name is always taken]

don't know what birubi track is like. but from what i remember the lavis lane track was a pretty windind track , could be difficult in the dark.
where abouts is the other entrance ? i dont know it sorry.

[Jim G]

don't know what birubi track is like. but from what i remember the lavis lane track was a pretty windind track , could be difficult in the dark.
where abouts is the other entrance ? i dont know it sorry.

about 20mins further north, up closer to Boat Harbour... it's obviously a bit further to drive back but given a good low tide we ought to be able to make good time along the beach. well, not as good as during the day but still ok!

tides are high around 0120, low around 0630... so it'll be on the low side by the time we get out there.

[AdamC]

given a good low tide we ought to be able to make good time along the beach. well, not as good as during the day but still ok!


Bear in mind that a 40Km/hr speed limit applies, and it's likely that fishermen will be out on the beach. Even so it's not all that far.

[Jim G]

Bear in mind that a 40Km/hr speed limit applies, and it's likely that fishermen will be out on the beach. Even so it's not all that far.

I think 40km should be plenty enough in the dark on a beach that I haven't driven on more than once before!

Good point with the fishermen, too.

[eXc450]

Well I am happy to do either entrance, but it's 20mins further on the road and a fair bit further on the beach....

I have not had any problems with Lavis Lane. Not that I have been there in the dark. But it shouldn't be too bad.

What would you guys prefer to do?

[my name is always taken]

Im easy
i dont know this other entrance.
is it still poss that we meet at the servo ?

[eXc450]

we could still meet at that servo, but we'd have to meet probably 30-60 minutes earlier at a guess...it's getting pretty darn early.

The other option is we just take the 4x4s that are confident going in at Lavis

[my name is always taken]

lavis lane . it's not going to be the blind leading the blind is it ?
(i think even with high beams on could still be tricky , but im guessing )

and time does'nt bother me as im leaving 3am

what if it's still raining ?
whats the go then ?

im easy on anyway ,lavis sounds the easiest on time wise.

ill stay tuned

[eXc450]

*shrugs* I will try to convince my friend to go out tommorow night and see - that way it will be wet and dark! haha then i can let you know!

Apparently (I havent done it) wet sand is easier....

If it's raining, I'd say we don't go. That's why I have asked for everyone's mobiles. If its not looking good next Friday we can pull the pin. Just make sure you call me if there is doubt :)

I will ask around the 4x4 peoples I know how bad it is in the dark

[Jim G]

*shrugs* I will try to convince my friend to go out tommorow night and see - that way it will be wet and dark! haha then i can let you know!

Apparently (I havent done it) wet sand is easier....

If it's raining, I'd say we don't go. That's why I have asked for everyone's mobiles. If its not looking good next Friday we can pull the pin. Just make sure you call me if there is doubt :)

I will ask around the 4x4 peoples I know how bad it is in the dark

Wet sand IS easier.... It's harder and you're not as likely to get bogged :p

Rain I say no go as as much as it'll be easier to drive in unless it's only light rain photos are going to be crap :p

[Jim G]

we could still meet at that servo, but we'd have to meet probably 30-60 minutes earlier at a guess...it's getting pretty darn early.

The other option is we just take the 4x4s that are confident going in at Lavis

I don't really have that many qualms going in on unfamiliar sand but I'd like to check out the place first.. if it's going to be too hard to negotiate in the dark the other one may be a better go :p I suppose I'll see what I can do about getting in there and checking it out before we try it on Saturday.

[ofdphoto]

I'm glad some experts are figuring this out ... I have no idea what the best plan is!!

[Jim G]

experts

*falls about laughing, at least in my case*

[eXc450]

meh, we'll be ok. The only issue I think will be no lights reversing back down the hills.

[eXc450]

Ok, I have updated the list http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=4251478&postcount=90

I have 2 mates that want to come just depends on whether they wake up early enough.haha. They will both have 4x4s if they come, so we will have a fair arsenol it would seem!!

The people I have talked to, other than 1 guy, said normal lights are fine for what we plan to do (ie. a direct trip - not playing on the dunes) Obviously driving lights would be better.

The main consideration from the people I talked to was simply getting lost, but that shouldn't be a major issue.

[Jim G]

meh, we'll be ok. The only issue I think will be no lights reversing back down the hills.

Birubi entrance there weren't any hills to speak of between the road and the beach - bumps, yes, but nothing you'd call a dune..

[eXc450]

Birubi entrance there weren't any hills to speak of between the road and the beach - bumps, yes, but nothing you'd call a dune..


Yeah, you're right...but again, it just adds alot more time to the trip making it an earlier start....



Are the other drivers happy to go in at Lavis Lane or not? I don't want to force anyone into anything.

[AdamC]

Are the other drivers happy to go in at Lavis Lane or not? I don't want to force anyone into anything.


I'm easy either way, as long as the drivers are comfortable with it.

[ofdphoto]

Thanks for all your work on this Chris et al.

As long as it's going to be no hassle to do a quick run back to the cars after sunrise (so I can get back and get my kit ready for a wedding reception shoot) I'm totally there ...

Would love to be able to stay longer tho!! :-(

[eXc450]

Yeah we will be able to take you back no worries. Allow 1 hour from when we leave the Sygna, so I would say 8am at the earliest...

Are the other drivers wanting to stay out longer or just for the sunrise? Cause I am happy either way, but would prefer to stay out a big longer, perhaps go up to burubi and come out there

[eXc450]

So far the weather is looking good....

http://www.abc.net.au/newcastle/weather/#Newcastle

[ofdphoto]

So you can recognise me on the day:

http://mickella.com/gallery2/d/4934-1/20071113_001_bw.jpg

:-D

(It's Movember, hence the style of this particular self-portrait!!)

[AdamC]

So you can recognise me on the day:


:-D

(It's Movember, hence the style of this particular self-portrait!!)


Holy cow, we're heading out into the dunes at night with a SERIAL KILLER!! :shock:

Just kidding mate :)

Here's one of me, from this weekend:

http://curreytech.net/albums/cruise_20071111/aah.sized.jpg

[Old Fart]

I'm out on weekend, seems I'll be installing a server from 7am saturday till it's commisioned :(

[my name is always taken]

im easy with lavis lane entry.

and i'll be staying after sunrise too. wana try and get some 4x4 shots.
and i'll bring some shovels too. (just incase)

here's my scary pic.

[AdamC]

I'm out on weekend, seems I'll be installing a server from 7am saturday till it's commisioned :(


Bugger!

[eXc450]

Haha, I only have one pic of me available at the moment....so this is me. and my car is the green one in the middle

[eXc450]

I have updated the main post, but here is our list so far.

Total Seats Available;(14)

eXc450 - 4
Jim G - 4?
My name is always taken (Clint) - 2
John (my mate) 3 or 4

Confirmed (9);


eXc450 (me/Chris) + Dad(Russell)
Jim G + Dad
Adam C
My name is always taken (Clint)
Linarms (Luke)
John (my mate) + his mate + a Pajero (as long as he wakes up)

So all up that is 5 POTN guys, and 4 non POTN guys. No ladies as yet. Geez...whats wrong with us! ;)

[Jim G]

So you can recognise me on the day:

http://mickella.com/gallery2/d/4934-1/20071113_001_bw.jpg

:-D

(It's Movember, hence the style of this particular self-portrait!!)


That is one awesome mo you have going there. I'm impressed!

[ofdphoto]

That is one awesome mo you have going there. I'm impressed!

:-D

Thanks.

[Jim G]

Here's the car:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1415/1301193976_91c60be20d_b.jpg

No photos of me handy but I'm sure there won't be that much confusion :p

[eXc450]

Wow. that looks like an ad. Nice work.

BTW Luke - any reason you chose a pic of you naked to upload instead of a clothed one ? ;P

[ofdphoto]

Not naked. Just ... shirtless.

And why? Cos I had no singlets that went with the mo.

:-P

[Old Fart]

Adding prison tats across the knuckles next are you :P

[ofdphoto]

Adding prison tats across the knuckles next are you :P

Ooooo the missus would love that!!

[AdamC]

Total Seats Available;(14)

Confirmed (9);



So does that mean there would be room for another? I have a non-POTN photographer buddy from Sydney who wouldn't mind coming along as well. Can I tell him he's in?

[eXc450]

I have no problems with your friend coming :)

[AdamC]

I have no problems with your friend coming :)


Cool. Make that Confirmed=10 then. :)