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Speeed
16th of July 2007 (Mon), 22:09
I spend most of my time here reading & learning so I thought it was about time to share some of the things I've learned from reading these pages.
thank you for the many lessons and great dicussions.
all shot with an XTi

1
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w231/frejentrazac/The%20Hall/hallclock.jpg
2
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w231/frejentrazac/The%20Hall/hall6.jpg
3
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w231/frejentrazac/Power/power8.jpg
4
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w231/frejentrazac/Power/power3.jpg
5
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w231/frejentrazac/Power/power7.jpg
6
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w231/frejentrazac/BChurch/bchurch11.jpg
7
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w231/frejentrazac/BChurch/bchurch.jpg
8
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w231/frejentrazac/BChurch/bchurch12.jpg

shannyD
16th of July 2007 (Mon), 22:20
i really love all of them. i used to live in NJ as well. and got some pics. on my old 35mm SLR but scanning the pics always look so grainy. but those are wonderful. thank you for posting them.
shannon

chet79
17th of July 2007 (Tue), 04:24
WOW. Nice set!

I would love to visit NJ sometime. There seems to be heaps of places like this.

kenyc
17th of July 2007 (Tue), 06:08
What/where is this. Nice shots.
KAC

shannyD
17th of July 2007 (Tue), 09:47
WOW. Nice set!

I would love to visit NJ sometime. There seems to be heaps of places like this.

go to PA, or NY if you want to see awesome places like that. or even further north. i guess im tainted for the 9 months i spent living in jersey. i lived in ewing (right next to little falluja AKA trenton) and wasnt happy there. probably because of all the violence there. i felt like i needed to lock my doors and roll up my windows just driving through cadwalder heights. and there are some beautiful homes there.
the north east is covered with places like this. even MD well all through the east coast really. just going from north to south you start finding different types of buildings and stuff. im just tainted from living in jersey though. so my opinion of the place doesnt matter. lol.
the best place that i ever went to for the best stuff was places like Salem Mass, richmond VA and to the little tiny towns way out in the middle of no where. always had such great places to photograph.

Speeed
17th of July 2007 (Tue), 14:05
thanks for the kind words on my work. I really enjoy shooting these places.
as shannyD has said there is no shortage of places like this in the northeast.
you just have to be willing to get in the car and drive and at times be savvy in dealing with the authorities.
also as shanny said, there are some real treasures in the trenton area but the risks usually far outweigh the rewards.

2005GLI
18th of July 2007 (Wed), 03:50
whrere in nj was this taken? the power plant one looks like the old path power plant in jersey city.

Speeed
18th of July 2007 (Wed), 22:24
please forgive me but I've been avoiding the location questions on purpose.
these photos were all shot recently in the northeast.

kenyc
18th of July 2007 (Wed), 22:31
please forgive me but I've been avoiding the location questions on purpose.
these photos were all shot recently in the northeast.

Why?

KAC

Gamut
18th of July 2007 (Wed), 23:33
The shots are great. However, the dilapidation of what looks to have been some amazing architecture is sad — especially the church. Great job capturing that though. I'd love to get my hands on that clock shot and get rid of all the electrical lines and Jeep. The clock is great in contrast to the red bricked building.

Isaac86hatch
18th of July 2007 (Wed), 23:37
The east coast has soo many great places to shoot. Nice set!


cheers

Jim G
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 08:26
#3 and #7 are GREAT. I really like the weird perspective in #3 and the dramatic angle in #7.

zippy25
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 09:42
please forgive me but I've been avoiding the location questions on purpose.
these photos were all shot recently in the northeast.
Why are you avoiding the location question? I don't mean to go overboard on this, but it is a bit irritating that you start off with how you have been reading and learning from this forum, and want comments about your photos, but when questioned about where it is, you admit to purposely keeping it from us. Most every person on this forum that I have ever asked for advice or information has gladly given it because that is how you get better.

As you admitted, "I spend most of my time here reading & learning so I thought it was about time to share some of the things I've learned from reading these pages. thank you for the many lessons and great dicussions".

Well good thing you learned a bunch of stuff and are now to good to share your information.

Your photos are nice and your location is good. I have no patientce with your attitude. Admittedly, I am going overboard on this, but we don't need attitudes like yours on this forum.

Sorry to everyone else for the rant:(

Village_Idiot
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 11:34
Why are you avoiding the location question? I don't mean to go overboard on this, but it is a bit irritating that you start off with how you have been reading and learning from this forum, and want comments about your photos, but when questioned about where it is, you admit to purposely keeping it from us. Most every person on this forum that I have ever asked for advice or information has gladly given it because that is how you get better.

As you admitted, "I spend most of my time here reading & learning so I thought it was about time to share some of the things I've learned from reading these pages. thank you for the many lessons and great dicussions".

Well good thing you learned a bunch of stuff and are now to good to share your information.

Your photos are nice and your location is good. I have no patientce with your attitude. Admittedly, I am going overboard on this, but we don't need attitudes like yours on this forum.

Sorry to everyone else for the rant:(

Legal issues I would suspect. I mean, technically if some one were to recognize the poster and the pictures that they took, they could use it as proof of tresspassing or breaking and entering.

Covering one's rear is more important than appeasing a stranger on a forum some times...

It's a long shot and even if he revealed location and specifics, he may (assuming OP is a he) never get caught...but why put yourself at risk?

zippy25
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 11:39
Legal issues I would suspect. I mean, technically if some one were to recognize the poster and the pictures that they took, they could use it as proof of tresspassing or breaking and entering.

Covering one's rear is more important than appeasing a stranger on a forum some times...

It's a long shot and even if he revealed location and specifics, he may (assuming OP is a he) never get caught...but why put yourself at risk?
Hey, you know, I never considered that. Well, if that is the case then I am sorry for my rant, but maybe he could have told us that. Thanks for pointing that out to me. :oops: :oops:

kenyc
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 11:59
Break the law, go to jail. :)

Why take the chance for a few pics?

I guess this was more or less implied with the OP's response here:

"....and at times be savvy in dealing with the authorities."

KAC

Speeed
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 12:35
yes, the reason for my evasive "attitude" has to do with the fact that I did not have permission to photograph these places.

ZIppy, interesting conclusions you draw about me from a single post but sincerely they couldn't be further from the truth. I'd be more that happy to discuss technique with you but I'm not willing to jeopardize myself or these locations. (as I would like to return to them)
these types of places are my primary photography interest and I enjoy photographing and documenting them immensely.

KAC, its all about the rush!

again,thanks for the kind words

zippy25
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 12:51
Hey Speeed- did you bother reading this...


Hey, you know, I never considered that. Well, if that is the case then I am sorry for my rant, but maybe he could have told us that. Thanks for pointing that out to me. :oops: :oops:


After someone else pointed out what your possible reasons might have been, I admitted my error and apologized. Either way it would have been nice had you let us know your reasons rather than allowing some of us to jump to conclusions.

Again, I am sorry for the mis-understanding

kenyc
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 13:29
...

KAC, its all about the rush!

...

Yeah, that's what the serial killers say too. :lol::lol::lol:

Still I love the photos.

KAC

Village_Idiot
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 13:29
"Urban exploration" often puts a person where they're not supposed to be...

kenyc
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 15:57
"Urban exploration" often puts a person where they're not supposed to be...

Calling something by a different name doesn't change the legality of the activity. :)

KAC

airfrogusmc
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 16:39
Heres a guy that died trying to preserve history in his photographs. Maybe breaking the law can be worth it. Most real creative people don't follow the rules much anyway. Theres allot of his photographs on permanent display at the Chicago Cultural Center. He was always in trouble for trespassing.

http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/architecture/061124/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nickel

His photographs are incredible...

kenyc
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 17:02
Heres a guy that died trying to preserve history in his photographs. Maybe breaking the law can be worth it. Most real creative people don't follow the rules much anyway. Theres allot of his photographs on permanent display at the Chicago Cultural Center. He was always in trouble for trespassing.

http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/architecture/061124/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nickel

His photographs are incredible...

Thanks, for the links and info. From the few photos I quickly looked at, you are right that was important work to be captured. It's unfortunate he died doing it but likely also at least part of the impetus to prevent it.

The photos in this thread are very similar to his work. Question to the OP, are you familiar with Nickel?

KAC

airfrogusmc
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 17:18
Kenny I'm sure there are very different motivating factors at work here. Nickel photographed to save the buildings the only way he could; in photographs. It is a shame that he died but he died doing what he loved. How many people can say that. He died to young though. Channel 11 here in Chicago did a piece on him a while back. He took architectural pieces that he could carry out of some of the buildings. If he hadn't of saved them in pieces and photographs they would have been lost forever.

kenyc
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 18:11
Kenny I'm sure there are very different motivating factors at work here. Nickel photographed to save the buildings the only way he could; in photographs. It is a shame that he died but he died doing what he loved. How many people can say that. He died to young though. Channel 11 here in Chicago did a piece on him a while back. He took architectural pieces that he could carry out of some of the buildings. If he hadn't of saved them in pieces and photographs they would have been lost forever.

I think you are correct. Nickel really was doing his best to preserve heritage as best he could with what he could. I can definitely understand and identify with that. Definitely someone and something I want to learn more about. I'm not necessarily sure that that was the motivating factor here for the OP, only he knows that. :)

KAC

Speeed
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 19:37
KAC, yes I am familiar with Richard Nickel.
my motivation is somewhat similar to his.

the trespass issue is unfortunately a technicality.
I'm well aware of the consequences.

I enjoy the adrenaline rush of a successful entry and exit, I can not and will not deny that.
most importantly I enjoy documenting places that society has deemed no longer useful and discarded leaving them for mother nature to reclaim.

take the photos of the power plant for instance, as I spent my day walking around the place I couldn't help but think about the lives of the people that were once employed there. the maintenance man that worked 12 hour shifts to put his 2 boys through school or the payroll clerk that was probably a 25+ year employee that payed the hard working laborers and machine operators, the inside jokes and gossip that every place of employment has, the notice posted on the bulletin board informing the workers that they are going to lose their jobs because the place was closing.

these places are magical to me and are my escape from this very crazy and sometime hectic world that we live in.
not to mention most people would never have the opportunity to see these places if it wasn't for a history dork that chooses to break the law, like myself.

everyone has their vice. some gamble, some do drugs, some cheat on their significant others.........I trespass.

I take only pictures and leave only foot steps.

kenyc
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 20:12
Well I love your images, keep up the great work! And stay safe.

KAC

chet79
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 21:44
I enjoy the adrenaline rush of a successful entry and exit, I can not and will not deny that.

most importantly I enjoy documenting places that society has deemed no longer useful and discarded leaving them for mother nature to reclaim.
I too enjoy urban exploring and I gotta agree with you on both counts.

take the photos of the power plant for instance, as I spent my day walking around the place I couldn't help but think about the lives of the people that were once employed there. the maintenance man that worked 12 hour shifts to put his 2 boys through school or the payroll clerk that was probably a 25+ year employee that payed the hard working laborers and machine operators, the inside jokes and gossip that every place of employment has, the notice posted on the bulletin board informing the workers that they are going to lose their jobs because the place was closing.

these places are magical to me and are my escape from this very crazy and sometime hectic world that we live in.
not to mention most people would never have the opportunity to see these places if it wasn't for a history dork that chooses to break the law, like myself.
I feel the same sense of emotion in some of the places I've visited. It sure is an escape from reality, and it makes you think of the people who used to work at these places. Check out these two shots (from a bottle capping place I visited a few months ago). The first two are from the part of the place at the back, where the workers used to live, and the third is from the cafeteria.

Photo 1 (http://chet.smugmug.com/photos/100557922-L.jpg)
Photo 2 (http://chet.smugmug.com/photos/100558863-L.jpg)
Photo 3 (http://chet.smugmug.com/photos/100441205-L.jpg)

fiftysvn
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 22:42
Awesome pictures. Does anyone know of any areas in nyc that are like that?

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Also, do you mind telling what kind of lense you used? I really like the last two pictures, though they are all great.

airfrogusmc
19th of July 2007 (Thu), 22:57
Well I love your images, keep up the great work! And stay safe.

KAC

Agree with Ken don't wind up like Mr Nickel.

3Turner
20th of July 2007 (Fri), 00:03
Speeed, I like the shots, can't pick a fav...but I do however find that sign shot very, very funny:lol: ....