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Collin85
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 08:02
I've a friend who knows someone who works for someone who once met someone who had a Canon T shirt on. They said the 50D will be better than the 40D. You heard it here first. :)
:lol::lol::lol:

00silvergt
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 12:35
Oh really like the 30D was better than the 20D :rolleyes:


It is...

Ferosso
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 13:07
Wow, haha :lol:
http://kmug.co.kr/board/data/dcqna/canon40D.jpg

00silvergt
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 13:15
LOL that's an old pic...

naqs
28th of July 2007 (Sat), 06:16
yea I've seen it too - I wonder how much battery a screen that big would use?

00silvergt
28th of July 2007 (Sat), 13:18
yea I've seen it too - I wonder how much battery a screen that big would use?

Photoshop'd 20D I think it was...

naqs
28th of July 2007 (Sat), 18:27
I thought it was? :lol:

you tell me - what's different between the 20D and 30D apart from the screen?

scotttnz
28th of July 2007 (Sat), 19:47
you tell me - what's different between the 20D and 30D apart from the screen?

Spot meter, and a bunch of interface\firmware changes.

I have hardly used either of them myself, but I know af a number of people who upgraded from the 20D to the 30D and claim that it is a much better camera to use.

Broncobear
29th of July 2007 (Sun), 08:42
From doing a little research it appears that the 5d model is actually a poor sell in the european market. The MKiii has not lived up to par for Canon partly because of the AF defect in a number of camera's and the so so reviews by some credible magazines.

So the speculation that the 40D may come with more than it should could actually be valid. Still I'm skeptic, Canon may actually not care so much about their bodies because let's face it, lenses must make about 70% of the market right?

As long as they release something that is slightly higher in par with most of the competition by their standards, by the stats you guys claim like MP's. That's all they may try to deliver.

stasber
30th of July 2007 (Mon), 06:38
Photoshop'd 20D I think it was...
an old pic indeed... and rumbled by the top right pic :lol:

you can clearly see the name plate is 20D

mwwahahaha

can't even say "nice try punk" this time!

going on a nice long holiday in august and won't even think about a 40D or a 60D or a 32DD. well ok, might make an exception for the latter :cool:

00silvergt
30th of July 2007 (Mon), 12:05
you tell me - what's different between the 20D and 30D apart from the screen?

Picture Styles, better shutter 100,000 cycles, spot metering...

Broncobear
30th of July 2007 (Mon), 12:59
Spot metering is really huge.

Citizensmith
30th of July 2007 (Mon), 13:11
I'm still using a 300D, I've finally got the money for a new body, now its just a case of waiting and seeing what the extra features vs extra price of the 40 vs 30 weigh out like. Wish they'd hurry up and release the specs/price on the damn thing.

00silvergt
30th of July 2007 (Mon), 13:13
Even if it is not that big of a difference between the two cameras, if you consider picture quality from the camera there really is no difference between the two cameras at all. However, which camera will help you take good pictures, then it is most definitely the 30D. Even with minute differences between the two models, the 30D is still a better camera.

scotttnz
30th of July 2007 (Mon), 20:35
I was talking to my top secret contact yesterday, who works for Canon in NZ. I asked him about the 40D. He told me that there is a product announcement scheduled for the 21st of August (He couldn't remember the exact date, so the 26th date that has been rumoured could be it.) He has not been told what it is, but expects that it will include a 30D replacement. So there you are.....with that exciting news scoop from me you know..........nothing more than you did before. :)

I ended up ordering a 5D from him, so I don't care about the 40D anymore ;)

BCinMB
31st of July 2007 (Tue), 15:13
I'm still using a 300D, I've finally got the money for a new body, now its just a case of waiting and seeing what the extra features vs extra price of the 40 vs 30 weigh out like. Wish they'd hurry up and release the specs/price on the damn thing. I'm in the exact situation you're in. However, i might just get a 70-200 f/2.8 to get a nice focal range with my 24-70, if i don't see the need for a new body. But i'm getting tired of my 300D..

Samba
31st of July 2007 (Tue), 20:02
We should start a club. I'm still using my 300D too, and I am going nuts waiting for the 40D specs. I've been good and spent some money on glass, but now it's time for a body upgrade. Come on Canon! Let's have it already. I should probably just get the 30D, and use the savings on a 50mm 1.4.

00silvergt
31st of July 2007 (Tue), 20:04
We should start a club. I'm still using my 300D too, and I am going nuts waiting for the 40D specs. I've been good and spent some money on glass, but now it's time for a body upgrade. Come on Canon! Let's have it already. I should probably just get the 30D, and use the savings on a 50mm 1.4.


That's what I had in mind...there already is a decent upgrade for the 300D; either the 400D or the 30D.

vien
1st of August 2007 (Wed), 01:07
i'm quite keen on the 40d as well :)

Still using a 350D, looking to step up to something more solid.

Bring on the press release in late august!! :)

00silvergt
1st of August 2007 (Wed), 01:13
i'm quite keen on the 40d as well :)

Still using a 350D, looking to step up to something more solid.

Bring on the press release in late august!! :)


Let's wait and see.

2005GLI
1st of August 2007 (Wed), 02:04
i'm quite keen on the 40d as well :)

Still using a 350D, looking to step up to something more solid.

Bring on the press release in late august!! :)


more solid? whats wrong with the 350d? Its pretty solid to me especially with the grip on it. I may upgrade to the 30d if the 40d ever comes out, and when i do that the xt will become IR only.

vien
1st of August 2007 (Wed), 04:26
more solid? whats wrong with the 350d? Its pretty solid to me especially with the grip on it. I may upgrade to the 30d if the 40d ever comes out, and when i do that the xt will become IR only.

alloy vs plastic body, that's the difference. Also there's a size difference between 20/d30d & 350/400d.

mrludecrs
1st of August 2007 (Wed), 09:53
I was in a camera store the other day and asked if the lack of 20Ds in the stores was an indicator of a soon to be released 40D. The salesperson more or less dodged the question. I really don’t think people like that have an inside scoop on what’s in the pipeline. Companies are very protective of not-yet-released products and usually only spread rumors very close to launch to generate buzz.

I’m probably going to stick with my 350D for quite some time. I actually prefer the smaller body to the 20/30/5D size cameras. I just find those too cumbersome. If and when a 450D comes out and IF it has some *really* compelling features, I might upgrade. Until then, I’ll try to build up an assortment of quality lenses.

I just don’t see the point of constantly chasing the latest gadget with the newest bells and whistles. I think I have A LOT to learn with photography as it is and a new camera really isn’t going to help me take better pictures necessarily. I need to master the fundamentals first. That’s how I look at it anyway.

lowcrust
1st of August 2007 (Wed), 15:15
I was in a camera store the other day and asked if the lack of 20Ds in the stores was an indicator of a soon to be released 40D. The salesperson more or less dodged the question. I really don’t think people like that have an inside scoop on what’s in the pipeline. Companies are very protective of not-yet-released products and usually only spread rumors very close to launch to generate buzz.

I’m probably going to stick with my 350D for quite some time. I actually prefer the smaller body to the 20/30/5D size cameras. I just find those too cumbersome. If and when a 450D comes out and IF it has some *really* compelling features, I might upgrade. Until then, I’ll try to build up an assortment of quality lenses.

I just don’t see the point of constantly chasing the latest gadget with the newest bells and whistles. I think I have A LOT to learn with photography as it is and a new camera really isn’t going to help me take better pictures necessarily. I need to master the fundamentals first. That’s how I look at it anyway.

The lack of 20D's could also be explained with the fact that is was replaced a year and a half ago by 30D....

Either way, I can only assume a store has the same kind of reasoning as most of us in this thread right now -- we're not gona buy a new camera for at least another 3 weeks.

timbop
1st of August 2007 (Wed), 16:24
The lack of 20D's could also be explained with the fact that is was replaced a year and a half ago by 30D....

Either way, I can only assume a store has the same kind of reasoning as most of us in this thread right now -- we're not gona buy a new camera for at least another 3 weeks.

I think he mistyped "30D" when he said "20D"

mrludecrs
1st of August 2007 (Wed), 18:12
I think he mistyped "30D" when he said "20D"

Correct, I meant to type "the lack of 30Ds..."

canon shooter
2nd of August 2007 (Thu), 00:11
I see B & H now has the 30D for $999.

40D MUST BE COMING

monkey28
2nd of August 2007 (Thu), 10:16
i surfed other website it said avaliable in Canada on Aug 23!

Citizensmith
2nd of August 2007 (Thu), 10:25
it won't be available anywhere in August. It probably won't be available in September either. What you were reading about is an estimate of when the official press releases will come out. So, information on the camera MAY be available in Canada on Aug 23. Thats all unfortunately.

Chosenbydestiny
2nd of August 2007 (Thu), 14:45
I hate being such a foolish early adopter, but man I cannot wait until they announce the new specs and launch dates!

Racer X
2nd of August 2007 (Thu), 15:27
I went to buy a 30D last week at a local shop. They will not stock them any longer. If you want one, they will order one but that's it. They advised me to wait a month. I may just wait until the 30D goes under $1000 at Amazon...almost there. The savings will pay for the 85mm I want and I won't have to wait 2 more months for stock to arrive in stores.

CoolToolGuy
2nd of August 2007 (Thu), 16:18
The guy at my local (favorite) store will never release info ahead of time, but when I started talking about a replacement for the 30D he did ask me if I want to be first on the list. :cool:

I said no, because at this point I don't know the specs, but I could be swayed once I have seen them. There is a good chance I will get one, but it might have to wait a little while.

Have Fun,

00silvergt
2nd of August 2007 (Thu), 16:22
I too try to avoid being an EA. This is OT, but this reminds of the HD DVD and Blu-Ray. EA's bought the players for $1000 with the library still in its infancy, now that both formats have grown, you can get the updated Samsung Blu-ray for 1/2 the price of the original model and the Toshiba HD for 1/2 the original as well.

Citizensmith
2nd of August 2007 (Thu), 16:28
I too try to avoid being an EA. This is OT, but this reminds of the HD DVD and Blu-Ray. EA's bought the players for $1000 with the library still in its infancy, now that both formats have grown, you can get the updated Samsung Blu-ray for 1/2 the price of the original model and the Toshiba HD for 1/2 the original as well.

I'll buy one when I can get a multiformat player for under $500. At the moment the players that play both seem to be over $1000 though so I may be waiting a while. :) And a decent quality upsampling DVD player does a good job anyways.

Guess I'll have to get a 40D instead.

00silvergt
2nd of August 2007 (Thu), 16:39
I'll buy one when I can get a multiformat player for under $500. At the moment the players that play both seem to be over $1000 though so I may be waiting a while. :) And a decent quality upsampling DVD player does a good job anyways.

Guess I'll have to get a 40D instead.

I think the upconverting players are pretty good, especially now that they have it at full HD (1080p). Now getting a TV that will optimally display at 1080p, that's a whole different story. I'll wait for a true standard to rise and then get that player.

To segue back into the topic...I think I will skip the 40D, when the time comes, sell my 30D and/or my XT and get the 1DMKIII!

canonrap
2nd of August 2007 (Thu), 18:05
it won't be available anywhere in August. It probably won't be available in September either. What you were reading about is an estimate of when the official press releases will come out. So, information on the camera MAY be available in Canada on Aug 23. Thats all unfortunately.

So the release date for the 40D is MAY then:!:

Citizensmith
2nd of August 2007 (Thu), 18:10
So the release date for the 40D is MAY then:!:

No, Canon are much quicker than Nikon about getting things on the shelf. If the press release is indeed at the end of this month I'd expect the camera itself to be on the shelves October possibly, November definitely.

And no, thats not fact, just from watching how long things have taken previously.

canon shooter
2nd of August 2007 (Thu), 23:37
I went to buy a 30D last week at a local shop. They will not stock them any longer. If you want one, they will order one but that's it. They advised me to wait a month. I may just wait until the 30D goes under $1000 at Amazon...almost there. The savings will pay for the 85mm I want and I won't have to wait 2 more months for stock to arrive in stores.30D already below $1,000 at B&H

Muzz
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 07:05
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1094/996322672_9f7d316feb_o_d.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1089/996322654_fff17b0e68_o_d.jpg

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1019&thread=24235814

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/Canon_40D.html

:)

Yohan Pamudji
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 10:19
It's on now! Disappointing specs if true--wouldn't even entice a 20D user like me to upgrade, let alone 30D users. Then again there might be some really nice features that didn't make the main bullet point list (curious to see how the 3 custom settings on the shooting mode dial work--could be very cool depending on how they work). One peeve of mine has finally been resolved: full time ISO display on the top LCD and in the viewfinder. Finally.

lowcrust
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 12:15
Don't worry we're just quoting and cross-linking ourselves on all these photo-fans websites.

00silvergt
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 13:01
12-13MP on the same die? Unless Canon puts in some awesome code for noise reduction in the DIGIC, that may get ugly...

jedwards
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 15:03
That's about what I have been hoping for. I may end up with a 40D when they hit the shelves. A 30D with DIGIC III and custom settings is just about perfect for what I need. What I don't need is more megapixels - 8 MP is plenty IMO - I would much rather have expanded dynamics and higher bit rates at 6 MP, than a 20MP noisy mess jammed into a DSLR to get some P&S users to switch to EOS.

lowcrust
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 15:17
Yep, too bad the majority of people can't squeeze that equation into their heads...

deeeez
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 16:01
As someone who is waiting to upgrade from a Nikon D70 to a Canon, I can tell you that I would be really dissapointed if indeed these specs turned out to be true.

If there is no ISO 3200 capability, no new AF system why wouldn't I not just purchase a 30D at a big discount?!
Or better yet, buy a used 1D MKII!

The pictures though look really convincing I must say..

00silvergt
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 16:23
As someone who is waiting to upgrade from a Nikon D70 to a Canon, I can tell you that I would be really dissapointed if indeed these specs turned out to be true.

If there is no ISO 3200 capability, no new AF system why wouldn't I not just purchase a 30D at a big discount?!
Or better yet, buy a used 1D MKII!

The pictures though look really convincing I must say..

Well, it is a win-win the way I see your situation. If the 40D turns out to be the best thing since sliced bread then get that...you score. If the 40D flops, then the 30D's will still be super discounted since it is no longer the newest thing, you still score.

JohnnyG
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 16:38
Well, it is a win-win the way I see your situation. If the 40D turns out to be the best thing since sliced bread then get that...you score. If the 40D flops, then the 30D's will still be super discounted since it is no longer the newest thing, you still score.
and you would buy old technology because of price??? I guess I don't think that way. I don't believe the 30D will come down too much. Look at the 20D when the 30D was announced. It hardly moved and in some retailers, it was more than the 30D. I would think we'll see the same thing or at least close to it.

I'm just a "have to get the new toy" kind of guy. The 30D was hardly an upgrade for me but the 40D is. I looked at the 30D as a "warmed over" 20D. Both fantastic cameras for sure but older technology. The possible "Auto ISO" would be almost worth it by itself to me and the much larger screen excites the hell out of me. I'm so tired of looking at my tiny screen. Real tired!

00silvergt
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 16:53
"Old technology?":rolleyes:

If you want the newest and greatest, and money is secondary, dude your camera came out in March; 1DMKIII, no question. :-?

JohnnyG
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 17:08
"Old technology?":rolleyes:

If you want the newest and greatest, and money is secondary, dude your camera came out in March; 1DMKIII, no question. :-?
That is funny DUDE! Used to be a film camera 10 years old was pretty new! Now, a digital camera 3 years old is really old. It's the technology thing dude! Get with it!:rolleyes: same as a PC. My PC is 3 years old and slowing down. I need a new processor so I'll build one soon.

Get the 1DMKIII yourself, you deserve it and sound like you can afford it! I want the 40D to make a 2nd camera with my 20D!:D:D:D

Headcase650
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 17:14
Just went and looked at the 360 view of the mk3 on canons website and its hot shoe looks very similar to the one on the 40D pictures with the "gasket" around the base of the shoe. If this thing is weather sealed Im gonna be getting one for sure after all the bugs are worked out. The one think thats sure though is that its hot shoe is entirely different than the 20D/30D.

Citizensmith
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 17:19
Get the 1DMKIII yourself, you deserve it

Can I have one too please?

Actually the 30D has come down in price a fair bit already (showing up at the $1000 mark) so I doubt the 40D will make it drop any further.

It's likely that the 40D will ring in around the $1500 mark so will its features be worth the extra cash. Going on what has been rumoured so far I'd personally say yes.

lowcrust
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 17:46
I'm just a "have to get the new toy" kind of guy.
Then why do you still have the 20D? Probably because you think it's a good camera and the new technology wasn't worth the money and hassle to switch. This isn't computers we're talking about. A 1 1/2 year old camera is not old the same way as a top level graphics card is.


The 30D was hardly an upgrade for me but the 40D is.

How do you know that? Don't expect too much, this is a good camera that is reasonably priced. You will not see a revolution like the 10D or 300D was within those series. You will only see fine tuning and market adjustments from here on.

gooble
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 17:59
Anyone seen this?

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/digital-cameras/canon-40d-dslr-prosumer-flagship-images-285891.php

00silvergt
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 17:59
That is funny DUDE! Used to be a film camera 10 years old was pretty new! Now, a digital camera 3 years old is really old. It's the technology thing dude! Get with it!:rolleyes: same as a PC. My PC is 3 years old and slowing down. I need a new processor so I'll build one soon.

Get the 1DMKIII yourself, you deserve it and sound like you can afford it! I want the 40D to make a 2nd camera with my 20D!:D:D:D


Really? Wow, computers are old at 3 years? ;):rolleyes:

So you are going to upgrade to a new camera, why because it is new? Would it really make your pictures look that much better?

I think you missed my point, I was thinking if you are coming from the D70 and want to switch to Canon, but was waiting for what the 40D had to offer, it is still a win situation for you regardless of how the 40D is configured. Since you are going to Canon regardless...so if the 40D is great then wow you get a new camera. If it sucks then you got a deal on the 30D...By no means will the 30D be obsolete just because the 40D is out, that's just plain stupid. I will be getting the 1DMKIII, thank you very much...my point with that is, why wait for the 40D if you are waiting for the newest technology, smart guy, you can just buy the 1DMKIII since you said saving money is not a thing for you. The 40D will not be more sophisticated than the 1DMKIII, I can guarantee you that!

gooble
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 18:04
This looks somewhat credible to me. The last image of the back would probably be harder to photoshop at that angle. Also the fact that the wheel and joystiq are roughly in the same place as the 30D makes sense. Other obvious photoshopped pics of the "40D" moved the command wheel too far to the right to make it practically unusale.

00silvergt
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 18:09
Thanks, Gooble, but someone already posted that earlier, albeit from a different site.

gooble
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 18:09
In this thread? Oh crap.

gooble
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 18:18
Did anyone notice the third under-the-thumb button on the back?

00silvergt
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 18:31
Did anyone notice the third under-the-thumb button on the back?

Now I did, I wonder what that will be for, IF this is credible...I like the CS settings on the knob...Again IF this is credible.

equetefue
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 18:34
Digic III would be great. I'll be happy with a very useful 1600ISO

gooble
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 18:51
Now I did, I wonder what that will be for, IF this is credible...I like the CS settings on the knob...Again IF this is credible.

Doesn't the 1D III have that third button and it is assignable with a CF? I think the focus can be shifted from the back (*) and put to the new button.

00silvergt
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 18:55
On the 1DMKIII it is label AF-on...is that to turn the AF on and off? I don't have the 1DMKIII, yet...soon, my friend, soon. LOL

Yohan Pamudji
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 18:56
Doesn't the 1D III have that third button and it is assignable with a CF? I think the focus can be shifted from the back (*) and put to the new button.

This 3rd button on the 1DIII is the "AF On" button. So, similar to using the * button to activate AF on bodies prior to the 1DIII.

JohnnyG
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 19:29
Just went and looked at the 360 view of the mk3 on canons website and its hot shoe looks very similar to the one on the 40D pictures with the "gasket" around the base of the shoe. If this thing is weather sealed Im gonna be getting one for sure after all the bugs are worked out. The one think thats sure though is that its hot shoe is entirely different than the 20D/30D.
That's exciting but I guess the weather sealing thing isn't a big one with me but important never the less. I've seen p/s with it for $250 so it really must not cost much. I know that a SLR has many more buttons and other openings so that changes the number of sealed places but still....

I tried to do some measurements on my 30D compared to the pictures we have and that screen can't be much over 3" if it's 3. I'm not sure it is.

I appreciate your investigating and I think it's fun as I'm sure you do.:D:D:D

JohnnyG
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 20:08
Really? Wow, computers are old at 3 years? ;):rolleyes:

So you are going to upgrade to a new camera, why because it is new? Would it really make your pictures look that much better?

I think you missed my point, I was thinking if you are coming from the D70 and want to switch to Canon, but was waiting for what the 40D had to offer, it is still a win situation for you regardless of how the 40D is configured. Since you are going to Canon regardless...so if the 40D is great then wow you get a new camera. If it sucks then you got a deal on the 30D...By no means will the 30D be obsolete just because the 40D is out, that's just plain stupid. I will be getting the 1DMKIII, thank you very much...my point with that is, why wait for the 40D if you are waiting for the newest technology, smart guy, you can just buy the 1DMKIII since you said saving money is not a thing for you. The 40D will not be more sophisticated than the 1DMKIII, I can guarantee you that!
Thanks for the recommendation of the 1DMKIII but that's not for me. The 40D is! and yes, it will definitely make my pictures better! and yes I'm upgrading because it's new. and yes a computer is old at 3 years and I am experienced enough to know it. Anyone that knows anything about computers realize that they double in power every 18 months so your computer is really antiquated as soon as you leave the store with it. It's just a fact of technology. And I'm not coming from a D70 but a 20D!

Another observation: first you say I might be stupid about the 30D being obsolete. I never used that word and in fact I think the 30D is an awesome camera. Then you call me "smart guy"! Is that a put-down or what? I think you may be losing the spirit of fun on this forum. I know some others love that kind of aggressiveness but I don't welcome it here.

If you want to talk about the 40D, then let's do it and stop the put downs. Just because I can't afford the 1DMKIII doesn't make you a better photographer than me or anything else but I hope you enjoy it.

Citizensmith
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 20:30
and yes a computer is old at 3 years

I dunno, it kind of depends on what you use it for. If all you ever do is surf the web, check email, and write a few word documents a 6 year old computer is just fine. If you want to do photoshop work it will run on an old computer but it'll cost you extra time. If you are a gamer a 3 year old computer will barely scrape by.

I mean have you seen the recommended set up for Crysis? They optimized it for quad-cores and DX10.

Keith R
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 20:52
That's about what I have been hoping for. I may end up with a 40D when they hit the shelves. A 30D with DIGIC III and custom settings is just about perfect for what I need. What I don't need is more megapixels - 8 MP is plenty IMO - I would much rather have expanded dynamics and higher bit rates at 6 MP, than a 20MP noisy mess jammed into a DSLR to get some P&S users to switch to EOS.

Amen to that!!

Keith R
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 21:00
If there is no ISO 3200 capability, no new AF system why wouldn't I not just purchase a 30D at a big discount?!

Errr... assuming it's not a trick question, no reason at all - the 30D is a wondrous camera, and one the 40D will be hard pushed to improve on in any meaningful sense.

JohnnyG
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 21:16
I dunno, it kind of depends on what you use it for. If all you ever do is surf the web, check email, and write a few word documents a 6 year old computer is just fine. If you want to do photoshop work it will run on an old computer but it'll cost you extra time. If you are a gamer a 3 year old computer will barely scrape by.

I mean have you seen the recommended set up for Crysis? They optimized it for quad-cores and DX10.
I do it all, even heavy duty gaming. I'm a FPS gamer. That's a "first person shooter"! So, horsepower (cpu) and graphics card is very important. I never have been able to afford the $600 cards but I do manage to get a pretty good $200-$300 one which makes my games run very well. I run 2 computers, one I built and the other a Dell. They're both fairly fast but time has taken it's toll on them. The games have passed me by and I need at least a new card for the homebuilt. That will bring me up to date.

I haven't seen Crysis as it's not out yet but they also did Farcry so it must be good.

But none of this has anything to do with cameras other than computers, and cameras are basically a computer with buttons and stuff:lol:

Citizensmith
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 21:28
I haven't seen Crysis as it's not out yet but they also did Farcry so it must be good.

Screen shots and video are amazing. It's due out Nov 14th so not long to wait. And there is Unreal 3 and Call of Duty 4 around the same time. Lots of FPS goodness. :)

I just built a new one (X2 6000, 2G RAM, X1950) so I'm happy right now but boy does gaming stuff age fast. The oldest of my 3 has a Ti4200 which was a wonderful card when I got it and now wont even let you install most games.

lowcrust
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 21:46
The more leaks we see about the 40D the more I think it's a 7D we will see in the end of the month...

BTW Far Cry 2 just announced.., less non-humans and set in an African civil war where you are working both sides.

whakojacko
3rd of August 2007 (Fri), 22:47
the pictures look to good to be fakes-there are lots of small subtle differences from the 30d . The specs Im not about to beleive, so ill go on pictures alone. ISO in viewfinder-finally!. The custom settigns on the control wheel looks nice, 3" lcd is sweet, looks like same af :(. Perhaps (hopefully) weather sealing. Sraw is a nice but largely useless addition.

danskim
6th of August 2007 (Mon), 10:12
Hard to trust anything until an official release.

JohnnyG
6th of August 2007 (Mon), 10:18
The more leaks we see about the 40D the more I think it's a 7D we will see in the end of the month...


What do you mean? Don't you think the 40D leaks are for the 40D? I'm confused.:confused:

danskim
6th of August 2007 (Mon), 11:38
I think he means he expects a 5D successor to be announced rather than a 30D successor although I don't agree with the cynicism... haha...

JohnnyG
6th of August 2007 (Mon), 11:44
I think he means he expects a 5D successor to be announced rather than a 30D successor although I don't agree with the cynicism... haha...
I guess so! :lol:

Headcase650
6th of August 2007 (Mon), 16:11
Those pics cant be the replacement for the 5D. no way in hell, its mated up with a 17-85 IS EF-S.

lowcrust
6th of August 2007 (Mon), 16:17
Nobody said they were. danskim got the aswer for you. I'm just saying that's a typical Canonesque move; it happened to the MKIII.

Oh and for the record; I think those pictures are fake. Something with the on/off dial doesn't seem right (among other things).

Headcase650
6th of August 2007 (Mon), 19:34
If it is fake its got to be the best one I have ever seen. All the previous fakes have been picked apart with in hours of surfacing. The attention to detail with the lable, the MkIII hotshoe, the 1D style buttons etc.

danskim
6th of August 2007 (Mon), 20:08
I'd be happy with either update actually... Although I guess a 40D upgrade is more feasible for me than a 5D or a 6/7D. :)

danskim
8th of August 2007 (Wed), 14:04
http://www.canon-eos-40d.com/

Too bad these latest rumors don't add many features. 10MP and anti-dust.

JohnnyG
8th of August 2007 (Wed), 16:03
http://www.canon-eos-40d.com/

Too bad these latest rumors don't add many features. 10MP and anti-dust.
Very obvious fake for sure! What gets me is who would do such a thing???

Ultimate CC
8th of August 2007 (Wed), 22:47
I can't wait for the 40d but bought an open box 30d for 750...

goatee
9th of August 2007 (Thu), 03:22
Digic III would be great. I'll be happy with a very useful 1600ISO
I found ISO1600 on the 10D usable, and on the 20D usable with no noise reduction, when used carefully.

00silvergt
9th of August 2007 (Thu), 12:30
Very obvious fake for sure! What gets me is who would do such a thing???


you know, the obvious list of individuals...the loner in high school that is alienated from his parents, the geek next door that has 0 life outside his/her computer, the photographic hardware nut that believes cameras go before the individual using it, the loser who would like to get recognition...

00silvergt
9th of August 2007 (Thu), 17:13
Ladies and Gentlemen, May i present to you...the Canon 40D!

http://www.canon40d.net/oh_40_d.jpg

Citizensmith
9th of August 2007 (Thu), 17:20
Hey its the Pekka standard rumour image, now with a 40D on it. :)

gooble
9th of August 2007 (Thu), 18:07
Ladies and Gentlemen, May i present to you...the Canon 40D!

http://www.canon40d.net/oh_40_d.jpg

I wish people would quit posting that stupid image.

00silvergt
9th of August 2007 (Thu), 18:11
I wish people would quit posting that stupid image.


Why it is just as helpful as anyone else's "predictions".;):p

blam
15th of August 2007 (Wed), 09:53
that's obviously the 5D MKII photoshopped to a 40D.........you're not fooling anyone

JohnnyG
15th of August 2007 (Wed), 09:57
that's obviously the 5D MKII photoshopped to a 40D.........you're not fooling anyone
The 5D is mighty but not that mighty:lol::lol::lol:

mantra
15th of August 2007 (Wed), 13:22
does somebody know if a new 5D will be out with the 40d?

laimis.s
15th of August 2007 (Wed), 13:32
does somebody know if a new 5D will be out with the 40d?
no, and i highly doubt it will.

foghorn
15th of August 2007 (Wed), 14:02
I wish people would quit posting that stupid image.
Somebody was tragically born with a sense of humor.

wimg
15th of August 2007 (Wed), 14:11
does somebody know if a new 5D will be out with the 40d?
September 2008 is what I was told. :)

And oficial launch over here of the 40D September, 6, 2007.

Kind regards, Wim

Punisher77
15th of August 2007 (Wed), 15:06
September 2008 is what I was told. :)

Hmmm, I doubt that Canon would let the 5D get 3 years old without a replacement. One of their competitors would probably release a competing product before then.

lowcrust
15th of August 2007 (Wed), 16:39
So far they havn't, though. A new model will probably not be released until they see a drop in sales for the 5D. That will happen when the prosumer segment think the MKI is getting long in the tooth and as long as there's no competition to beat it (either by other Canon models or by competitors) it's no hurry.

Matt57
15th of August 2007 (Wed), 16:40
I'm hearing 9-12 to 9-15 is when it goes on sale.

Maybe, maybe not.

JohnnyG
15th of August 2007 (Wed), 20:04
does somebody know if a new 5D will be out with the 40d?
The information I have is the 40D comes out August 20th-21st, 5D follows later, and lastly the 1DS Mark III. All three this fall.

Citizensmith
15th of August 2007 (Wed), 20:58
I'm occasionally searching for 40D on Amazon to see when it shows up for preorder (probably after the info release). I'm still amused about the second search result each time.

http://www.amazon.com/Nearly-Lites-Forms-Tapered-Beige/dp/B000PRQYEY/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/002-4877484-0108827?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1187229361&sr=8-2

lostdoggy
15th of August 2007 (Wed), 21:03
The information I have is the 40D comes out August 20th-21st, 5D follows later, and lastly the 1DS Mark III. All three this fall.


Nah I heard from a reliable source the 5DMII and the 1DsMIII will both be announced together on April 1, 2008... My source also said that they will be raffling off 10 of each body w/ matching set of L lenses. My source also told me that they'll be announcing soon the site to register for the raffle.

Tom W
15th of August 2007 (Wed), 21:28
Nah I heard from a reliable source the 5DMII and the 1DsMIII will both be announced together on April 1, 2008... My source also said that they will be raffling off 10 of each body w/ matching set of L lenses. My source also told me that they'll be announcing soon the site to register for the raffle.


On the very slim chance that that is true, I'd love to buy a raffle ticket. :)

lowcrust
15th of August 2007 (Wed), 21:41
What's a raffle?

Rocket Boy
15th of August 2007 (Wed), 21:51
What's a raffle?

A means of raising money by selling numbered tickets, one or some of which are subsequently drawn at random, the holder or holders of such tickets winning a prize, or in this case a 5DMII and/or a 1DsMIII.

lowcrust
15th of August 2007 (Wed), 22:01
Ah, like a lottery ticket in other words. Thank you! Another word added to my meager vocabulary!

ScottE
15th of August 2007 (Wed), 22:49
Ah, like a lottery ticket in other words. Thank you! Another word added to my meager vocabulary!

Like a lottery ticket except on a smaller scale. Say some ladies want to buy a new coffee pot for the senior citizen's centre. They make a quilt and sell raffle tickets for a couple of dollars each. They then draw a ticket to find out who gets the quilt, use the money to buy a coffee pot and get a few bottles of gin with the excess cash. Everybody ends up happy.

tzalman
16th of August 2007 (Thu), 02:18
I'm occasionally searching for 40D on Amazon to see when it shows up for preorder (probably after the info release). I'm still amused about the second search result each time.

http://www.amazon.com/Nearly-Lites-Forms-Tapered-Beige/dp/B000PRQYEY/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/002-4877484-0108827?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1187229361&sr=8-2

For that the 38DD will be enough of an upgrade for me.

lostdoggy
16th of August 2007 (Thu), 02:37
On the very slim chance that that is true, I'd love to buy a raffle ticket. :)

Here's the site:

lostdoggy.com

please make checks out to: CASH

paypal will be accepted lostdoggy@APRILFIRST.com

for only $1/raffle ticket.

laidbackman
16th of August 2007 (Thu), 02:59
I wish people would quit posting that stupid image.
So why did you post it then :lol:

Box Brownie
16th of August 2007 (Thu), 03:27
Like many who have posted I also am looking forward to the 40D (or whatever it will be called) but I do find the speculation just winds folk up!

Those that know when the new models are due are not saying because if this runs true to course then we will immediately on the official date see the independant reviews e.g. dpreview, imaging-resource etc. Why! because they have all signed NDAs. Likewise the stores will then have the pre order offers for the deliveries possible up to 6 weeks after the date depending on the local market.

Canon in common with all such manufacturers protects its commercial privacy about new releases, so all 'claims' to know are just speculation. As for semi official "leaks", well if that were the case the 40D would have been here by now, wouldn't it?

Lets all be patient and read the reviews when they are posted.

Chill out time ;)

Muzz
16th of August 2007 (Thu), 07:45
I see the price of the 30D is at an all time low for us UK folk:

http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/prod53.html

laimis.s
16th of August 2007 (Thu), 09:31
I see the price of the 30D is at an all time low for us UK folk:

http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/prod53.html

£549 ????? :o

now thats cheap. i paid that much for my 400d :(

its tempting to just buy the body now, but the other side of me is stopping me and whispering "5D, you know u want to" ;) and yes i do :)

AdamJL
16th of August 2007 (Thu), 10:38
Digital Rev are selling them for LESS than 500 ;)
£476.69 to be exact...

timbop
16th of August 2007 (Thu), 17:50
interesting. IIRC back when the 30D came out, they did not ravage pricing to clear 20D stock out. In fact, canon continued to supply them for several months before finally discontinuing them. Perhaps this bodes well for the theory that it will be a MUCH improved 20D being released this time, instead of a 20Dm3? I hate to get too pumped up, but a 40D with weather sealing, improved AI servo, 14bit raw, and much larger burst depth would definitely get my christmas dollars - or at least $1500 of them.

JohnnyG
16th of August 2007 (Thu), 18:03
Nah I heard from a reliable source the 5DMII and the 1DsMIII will both be announced together on April 1, 2008... My source also said that they will be raffling off 10 of each body w/ matching set of L lenses. My source also told me that they'll be announcing soon the site to register for the raffle.
Is this a joke? :lol:

lostdoggy
16th of August 2007 (Thu), 20:41
Is this a joke? :lol:

For more info read POST #409

Tom W
16th of August 2007 (Thu), 21:03
For more info read POST #409

:D :D

Check's in the mail - not saying which check or where it's headed though....

JohnnyG
16th of August 2007 (Thu), 21:07
For more info read POST #409
Well I guess this is fine IF they don't announce them this fall like the rumors say! I really don't care personally though as it's the 40D that I want!

But, I really do love raffles, especially for those prizes. If it does happen next April I'll be in it I hope!:D:D:D

mantra
17th of August 2007 (Fri), 03:54
i hope that the new 40D would have a focusing screen inspect-able :D:D:D:D

alwilson
17th of August 2007 (Fri), 05:15
Digital Rev are selling them for LESS than 500 ;)
£476.69 to be exact...

True, but alas... :rolleyes:

AdamJL
17th of August 2007 (Fri), 06:25
Ahh balls :(

Never went that far through the purchase

goatee
17th of August 2007 (Fri), 06:45
insptectable or replaceable? I'd love a replaceable focussing screen (yes, I know you *can* replace them, e.g. with the katz eye ones, but it's fiddly)

Ultimate CC
18th of August 2007 (Sat), 00:34
any deals on 30ds in the states?

Muzz
18th of August 2007 (Sat), 05:02
Ahh balls :(

Never went that far through the purchase

Best to use Digital Rev via ebay using the No Vat thing guys :)

Or if you really are desperate they are £549:

http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/prod53.html

:)

CoolToolGuy
18th of August 2007 (Sat), 06:28
any deals on 30ds in the states?

B&H has it for $989.95 USD

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/423708-REG/Canon_1234B004_EOS_30D_Digital_Camera.html

Have Fun,