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tommykjensen
18th of June 2004 (Fri), 11:57
What do You think of this one where I have replaced the sky with a completely new sky.

http://photo.klein-jensen.dk/photo.php?n=gisselfeldt_edited.jpg


This is the original

http://photo.klein-jensen.dk/photo.php?n=gisselfeldt_original.jpg

RoB_m
18th of June 2004 (Fri), 12:39
something seems off, but i can't put my finger on it. the building could maybe use a little more contrast to match the rich sky.

i can still see a few white edges on the top of the roof.

BigRed450
18th of June 2004 (Fri), 12:44
What you see or rather don't see Rob is the lack of strong shadows and high dynamic range that acompanies a clear blue sky. This is what gives us a sense of something being just not quite right....

As you can see by the image there is a soft shadow on the lawn to the right of the builbing indicating that the sun is shining from high to the left. The side of the hedge towards us is also dark, indicating again that the sunlight is coming from behind the building...

IMO the building should be darker and richer in color to look like it is in shadow...

PS Your masking job is quite good.

damnengine
18th of June 2004 (Fri), 14:02
what I usually do when I have to add a sky in my manips is to add some clouds with a gradient mask to the original sky colour from the photo, it will make the sky less boring and will conflict less with the objects in the photo, I gave it a quick shot here (hope it's ok I messed with your photo). It's not the best sky for the job, but it's just an indication and it was the first sky I had at hands.

http://www.damnengine.net/scrap/gisselfeldtnew.JPG

rick barclay
18th of June 2004 (Fri), 14:31
I like yours alot better than the original, Tommyk.

Damnengine, tell me, how in the world do you get a sky like that and shadows at the same time?

damnengine
18th of June 2004 (Fri), 14:50
Sometimes reading helps
It's not the best sky for the job, but it's just an indication and it was the first sky I had at hands.

I just wanted to show how blending in a sky can be made a little bit easier :roll:

damnengine
18th of June 2004 (Fri), 15:04
here's a more teletubby sky :P

http://www.damnengine.net/scrap/gissefeldtnew2.JPG

I just wanted to say when adding a gradient mask it will "connect" a bit better to the foreground.

BigRed450
18th of June 2004 (Fri), 15:34
Just a little brightness/contrast adjustment on the building and grounds.

http://users.air.on.ca/cbjaps/Webpostpics/tommykfix.jpg

jonnyhorizon
18th of June 2004 (Fri), 18:46
heres another before and after
comments welcome
http://www.johncastor.com/mtevans061504/images/MtEvans2004-06-15-031-web.jpg
http://www.johncastor.com/mtevans061504/images/MtEvans2004-06-15-031-ver3final-web.jpg

PhotosGuy
18th of June 2004 (Fri), 21:23
jonnyhorizon - nice job retaining the hair in the second pic. Now that you did, I'd clone it out at the back of it's neck! It just keeps pulling my eye toward it.

robfo0
18th of June 2004 (Fri), 21:33
Yes, very nice mask on the goat! Ive always had a problem masking hair, what method do you use? maybe this isnt the best forum to ask this question, but what about others, whats the best masking method for hair (particularly models in the wind)?

Thanks :)

PhotosGuy
18th of June 2004 (Fri), 22:15
whats the best masking method for hair]

Try Filter> Extract.

jonnyhorizon
18th of June 2004 (Fri), 22:47
yes it was a filter extract
use a big brush on the hair and a small one on the horns
had to clone some of the goatee (no pun)
weird thing about the goat is that it appears to me that really is the way his hair is growing
...

PhotosGuy
18th of June 2004 (Fri), 23:36
weird thing about the goat is that it appears to me that really is the way his hair is growing

I agree, but it's the brightest thing in the pic & draws attention away from everything else.
Oh, how about brightening that catchlight in the eye?

tommykjensen
19th of June 2004 (Sat), 02:36
Thank You for the suggestions.

How do I use the gradient layer?

I am trying and I got as far as this

http://photo.klein-jensen.dk/public/photoshop01.jpg

But how do I blend the sky in instead of that gradient mask?

tommykjensen
19th of June 2004 (Sat), 03:30
Ok this is my new attempt, I still didn't get the gradient mask to work :(


http://photo.klein-jensen.dk/photo.php?n=gisselfeldt_edited2.jpg

vfilby
19th of June 2004 (Sat), 09:37
Hey Tommy,

Here is what I have done in the past. Don't use the layer mask to cut out the sky, but use it for the gradient.

Create a new layer and select the sky. Once the sky is selected then just fill that layer with black and move it to the bottom out of sight, this will come in handy if you need to reload the selection. Now create a new layer and copy just the sky, add a layer mask and use the gradient on the layer mask.

I don't know if there is a better way but this seems to work for me.

Vince

Scottes
19th of June 2004 (Sat), 12:32
I thinks it's very good, but needs some help with shadows as BigRed450 said.


I started going into this image in more detail, along with my thoughts on replacing a sky. Well, after 2 hours later it turned into another one of my silly tutorials. Post Processing #7 - Replacing The Sky (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=234590#234590)

Now I've got to go back to what I was doing before I read this topic....