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DallasPhoto
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 09:34
This was my first wedding ever and I was very nervous about it. Just need a little help and a few suggestions on how everyone else would edit this pic. If you edit it, I would really like to know the steps of WHAT you did, not just the end result.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/n_d_mand13/wed1.jpg

Jonny
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 09:50
Well there are plenty of things you could do to improve it but to be honest unless you could do a good job of opening the grooms eyes i wouldn't bother.
Shame.

*Mike*
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 09:52
You might want to consider using fill flash in the future. It will help properly expose the subjects without blowing out the sky. Have you tried this shot in B&W? It might have a little more pop. 1st weddings are tough. Hang in there. At some point the scary thing flip to fun.

*Mike*
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 09:54
Well there are plenty of things you could do to improve it but to be honest unless you could do a good job of opening the grooms eyes i wouldn't bother.
Shame.

Is the guy a squinter? We've had weddings were the groom was squinting so hard the whole time - inside, outside, where ever. There are tricks to get his eyes open, but the vast majority of the candid photos, his eyes are squinting.

DallasPhoto
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 10:06
That's just how the groom is...Very squinty eyed. I actually have shots where they LOOK more closed than this BUT they aren't closed

bcap
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 10:21
Here is my edit:

http://www.mimphoto.com/photos/wed1-2.jpg

Done 100% in lightroom (except the border) with the following settings:

Fill Light + 37
Blacks + 10
Contrast + 20
Clarity + 33

Highlights + 17
Lights + 11
Darks + 9
Shadows + 4

Grayscaled w/ the following settings:
Red + 30
Orange + 19
Yellow - 13
Green + 72 (I chose this because this blew out the background even more, bringing the couple out of the photo and making them pop. If you turn down the greens instead, you can keep some of the details in the tree in the back)
Aqua + 11
Blue + 34
Purple + 2
Magenta + 19

I did a simple Vignette with the following settings:
Amount - 60
Midpoint 18

Then I played with the camera callibration to get the B&W look I wanted:
Tint + 45
Red Hue + 43
Red Saturation + 45
Green Hue + 43
Green Saturation + 38
Blue Hue - 34
Blue Saturation +32

Hope this helps :)

CyberPet
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 11:31
A very easy way to fix this is:

1. Duplicate the background layer.
2. Set the blending mode of the duplicate to "Screen"
3. Lower the opacity to taste (in my case I did lower it to 80%)
4. Alt/Option-click on the "Add Vector Mask" icon in the Layer palette, so it becomes black.
5. Start painting in the layer mask with a white soft brush and bring out the couple (so they become brighter).
6. Merge the layers when pleased with the result.

The imag would be nice this way, but I went a bit further:
7. Duplicate the background layer again
8. Add a Gaussian Blur of about 3 pixels (on this small image, you need more on a full res image - maybe 10 pixels or 15).
9. Set the blending mode of the duplicated (blurry) layer to "Soft Light"
10. Lower the opacity to about 50%, this will give the image a bit more punch.

I did also adjust some grey skin tones and a bit of red in his face, but that's for lesson #2. :D

http://the-halls.se/edited/wed1_pet.jpg

bcap
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 11:35
Great edit Petra!

CyberPet
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 11:35
Oh, and a piece of advice - timing is everything - and so is backgrounds. Place yourself in a position where the background is the least obstructive (you might have done that already - but I find the grey structure to the right and the person behind him being a bit obstructive).

DallasPhoto
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 12:00
See, it was very hard to move around at this place... It was a small dock that is surrounded by water on three sides. It was small too, probabley about 40 feet long and 30 feet wide. It was a really weird setup

Vulcan58
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 12:06
Oh, and a piece of advice - timing is everything - and so is backgrounds. Place yourself in a position where the background is the least obstructive (you might have done that already - but I find the grey structure to the right and the person behind him being a bit obstructive).


Plus, the bride looks like she's had her head impaled by that beam behind her.
I'd have tried to have found a neutral background if possible, & shot with large aperture to get Bokeh thing ??

CyberPet
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 12:27
You're welcome!

inthegarden
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 15:41
Petra's work was really nice. The reason I am posting this version is only to suggest cropping. You could also clone out the tree trunks.

DallasPhoto
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 16:58
Ok, I just bought a book off of amazon about CS2 which is what I have started using... But in the mean time, what are the propper steps in "cloning"something out?

inthegarden
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 17:37
I have taken classes at the local community college to learn photoshop (I have cs2). Longterm, you might consider that. In the meantime, you could try doing a search on google for clone stamp tutorials or techniques.
Betterphoto.com offers online photoshop classes, and I know there are other websites that have classes, which you could search for.
I am also a member of NAPP, which has a website with tutorials, books for sale, a monthly photoshop magazine, etc. They also sponsor 1 day classes in many cities. Their url is www.photoshopuser.com
Good luck!

Steiglitz
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 18:37
This shot is not worth editing....their expressions are not flattering, and are basically way off...throw it out, and deal with keepers.

NO amount of post processing can save a bad composition. Start first, with a good comp, then go from there...don't give up....keep on practicing.

ChrisLUM
27th of July 2007 (Fri), 20:47
1- Levels - Brightened up the image
2- Bumped up contrast
3- Decreased saturation
4- Played with highlights and shadows

This is a quick edit for me but that would be the gist of it. I edit quick.

http://www.lightupmedia.com/chris/wed1.jpg

Raphael V
28th of July 2007 (Sat), 07:59
Since you asked i tried a quick edit.:)

This is just a 1 minute edit

Raphael V
28th of July 2007 (Sat), 08:02
This is the duotone dream version

Raphael V
28th of July 2007 (Sat), 08:04
Desaturated and then selectively coloured yellow and red

Raphael V
28th of July 2007 (Sat), 08:06
A quick desaturation of my original edit.

Raphael V
28th of July 2007 (Sat), 08:08
A ran a few Actions too.:D
This is the Midnight Sepia Action

Raphael V
28th of July 2007 (Sat), 08:11
A few more Actions,:eek:
1.The Urban Acid Action,
2.The Lomo Effect Action from BHP Photography.

subtle_spectre
28th of July 2007 (Sat), 09:55
I wouldn't do much at all. I don't think the shot desrves too much criticism, either. I would probably lighten up the faces/skin using a new layer, levels and layer mask. I would then find some eyes to put on the man. Voila!

Edit: Okay...I played with it a bit...also addes a medium vignette. For my tastes, the images started with a bit more contrast than I would have liked, so I have not addressed that aspect. Also, taking eyes from this man in another images would obviously be better.

http://scottcphoto.com/images/wed1.jpg

k_blais
28th of July 2007 (Sat), 10:10
I agree with Scott. Although there were some nice edits here, I kind of liked the original. I would try to lighten up the faces a bit in Photoshop, and I would probably try to clone out the bridesmaid in the back as well. It is a shame that the groom's eyes were closed, but there is a feel to the original pic that I like.

DallasPhoto
30th of July 2007 (Mon), 02:53
I agree with Scott. Although there were some nice edits here, I kind of liked the original. I would try to lighten up the faces a bit in Photoshop, and I would probably try to clone out the bridesmaid in the back as well. It is a shame that the groom's eyes were closed, but there is a feel to the original pic that I like.

I'm really glad that some people like this picture unlike the man up top who said I shouldn't waste my time and that their facial expressions were way off. Hmm, that's the way they smile. BUT like I said, the groom is very squinty eyed and i have several other shots of this same time and his eyes look exactley the same. I thank everyone so much for their constructive criticism and all the edits. I have fallen in love with this website... Thank you ALL and the posts from me will keep coming

Tobster001
31st of July 2007 (Tue), 23:04
IF i had to use the image, i would go a little something like this but neater... :T

rockwithme192
31st of July 2007 (Tue), 23:20
Some of you are going a bit over the top with trying to lighten the people up a bit haha!
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/3528/wed1copyuh2.jpg