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Woodchuck
23rd of June 2002 (Sun), 20:44
Hi Guys and Gals,

I just got a Canon S30. Loving it so far! Anyone have experience with
this adaptor? Really would like to be able to add lenses:

http://www.ckcpower.com/s3040.htm

Wanting mostly for macro. Think one would be able to do decent
closeup work...like postage stamp size?

Thanks!

Rustle
24th of June 2002 (Mon), 11:38
We've talked about this before and no one's piped up with a review. I think that means that no one's bought the adapter, yet. There is, however, a really good review of the adapter for an S20 at Steve's Digicams. It's pretty much the same thing.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/s20_lenses.html

Russ

Inactive member 38
1st of July 2002 (Mon), 23:49
I just got my adapter in the mail last week. I like it, but it seems like $50 is a high. So far I have bought 3 filters (polarizer, ND2, UV Haze - all Quantaray), but no lenses yet. I'm trying to decide on a 2x telephoto. I haven't found any stores that carry camcorder lenses and very few that have 37 mm anything. I will probably buy a Tiffen 2x from CKC Power if it is available in 37 mm. The adapter works very well with the filters, and to my surprise, does not scratch the S30 (one of my fears). It's very sturdy too - I don't worry about it getting banged up with normal use.

As far as delivery, I chose standard UPS shipping and got it in 3 days (I was worried about CKC Power....the webpage isn't exactly professional, it needs and I was told is being updating).

With all three filters on, there is some vignetting in the corners at wide-angle, but they disappear when zooming in. I imagine a 2x telephoto would be the same length as the stacked filters and have the same results.

Unfortunately, when the adapter is used, the optical viewfinder is less useful, as it is partially blocked.

As for closeup filters, I found these:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005U247/qid=1025409231/br=3-2/ref=br_lfncs_p_2/103-9031251-9135058

I couldn't find any other 37 mm closeup filters, but a step-up ring could be used to allow the use of larger filters.

If anyone has questions about the adapter, I'd be happy to respond

Woodchuck
6th of July 2002 (Sat), 11:44
Thanks Maverick!

My main use for the adaptor would be for the purpose of taking close shots of subjects down to about 1" x 1" ... really hoping this would work well with a close-up lens as at the link you provided. Hopefully someone has tried this and can confirm good or bad results or have other ideas or options. Thanks again!

Woodchuck
6th of July 2002 (Sat), 12:56
Might also add to this, that I have not had the best of luck with pictures of flowers with the S30. Probably not being patient enough :-) Usually my pictures are not quite as sharp as I would think they should be. I saw some very clear S10 pics of closeups...can't find the link right now :-( ... I assume the S30 has the capability of equally as good pics as the S10...maybe better?

iandnor
10th of July 2002 (Wed), 00:27
I bought the adapter for my S30, and have coupled it with a range of filters and a 8X32 CrystalVue monocular lens (all purchased from CKCPower).

It all has exceeded my expectations. I have found the combinations easy to use. I am getting good sharp distance shots. The monocular is also good for macro. I can get down to about 25 mm wide (5mm with the digital zoom). As a bonus, the monocular can be used without the camera as a binocular alternative.

When putting on the adapter, you need to be sure it is centred over the lens while tightening it down. If it is off centre you get scratches on the outside of the lens barrel of the camera as the lens moves in and out.

I am happy to answer any questions on this.

Ian

Woodchuck
10th of July 2002 (Wed), 08:43
Hi iandor,

Thanks for the feedback! Sounds like I may place an order soon. Regarding the monocular...I believe that would do the trick for me. Is it the KENKO 8x32 for $158 at the link below?

http://www.ckcpower.com/kenko8x32.htm

jim9tan
11th of July 2002 (Thu), 06:50
Hi Guys,

Glad that someone has finally found a good extender for the S30. Can I asK?

1) The CrystalVue looks big compared to the S30. Does this place any stress onto the camera body?
2) Does the monocular obscure the optical VF?
3) Does it obstruct the focus and exposure eye?

Thanks.

iandnor
13th of July 2002 (Sat), 07:06
Woodchuck,

No, it is the CrystalVue 8X32 (USD$149). I chose it over the Kenko because the lens is threaded and therefore can be directly attached to the adapter. The Kenko needed an additional adapter before it could be attached to the adapter (if you follow what I mean). I have been very happy with it. It doesn't turn your comapact into an SLR, but it sure gives it some extra possibilities.

Jim,

You are right, both the CrystalVue and the Kenko are quite substantial with respect to the camera. I tend to hold the setup by the monoculr/lens (as this is where the centre of gravity is), and therefore there is no strain at all on the camera. However, even when I have caught myself supporting it all through the camera, I have not been conscious of any strain. Perhaps this is due to the strong body of the S30 and because the lens is firmly attached through the tripod mound (fairly strong part of the camera). When on a tripod no weight from the lens passes to the camera.

The adapter blocks about one third of the optical viewfinder. I find the viewfinder is still useable. Of course if the monocular is attached you will need to use the LCD anyway.

It occludes about one half of the auxilary light, so it is probably not much use. This has not caused me any problems but I suppose it depends how you intend using it.

Hope this has helped.

Ian

Woodchuck
13th of July 2002 (Sat), 11:28
Hi iandnor,

Thanks much for the info! By any chance, when using the adaptor, have you tried any closeups with something like the Tiffen Company 37mm Close Up Lens at the link below? My main aim is to get closer shots of flowers and stamp-sized objects. Thanks for any feedback!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005U247/qid%3D1025409231/br%3D3-2/ref%3Dbr%5Flfncs%5Fp%5F2/002-8497066-8610448

iandnor
15th of July 2002 (Mon), 17:04
No, I haven't tied any other lenses besides the CrystalVue 8X12. This lens does give pretty good macro shots though.

Ian

ruby
18th of July 2002 (Thu), 18:28
hi iandnor,
Could you post some shots that you have taken with the crystalvue please. I am also thinking of ordering it. Thanks

Inactive member 38
1st of August 2002 (Thu), 11:26
Has anyone with the adaptor tried the Tiffen 2x lens or any other 2x or 3x lenses? I am looking to buy one for sports photography and am leaning towards the Tiffen 2x, but simply because I don't know much of what else is out there (the CKC power website isn't that helpful I feel).

Thanks

Inactive member 38
3rd of August 2002 (Sat), 19:14
I ended up purchasing the Tiffen 2x Telephoto lens from Circuit City for ~$60 (US).

I've posted comparisson shots with and without the lens attached below for anyone interested:

http://www.pbase.com/maverick55/telephoto_test

brutal
3rd of August 2002 (Sat), 20:29
Nice shots. I had never looked at circuit city for photo stuff. Too bad they don't carry much in the 52mm range

jim9tan
4th of August 2002 (Sun), 04:44
Hi Maverick,

Thanks for the work. Are you satisfied with the Tiffen??

Inactive member 38
4th of August 2002 (Sun), 12:27
I can't say just yet because those are the only shots I've taken so far with the lens. However, if you compare the S30 w/6.0 digital zoom with the S30 full tele w/Tiffen (same focal length), the Tiffen one is a lot nicer in my opinion. The image seems a bit light, but I think that I should have closed the aperture a bit more, maybe around 7.1

I bought the lens for taking pictures of Penn State football games, so the verdict will be out when the season starts, but I expect it to do very well.

Something to note: With the telephoto lens on, the focus assist light is blocked (it would be with any lens), so focusing becomes more critical. In low light I would not trust the auto focus, as I found it to be focusing on the outside edge of the lens (it judged the distance to be just outside the macro range). As long as the focus assist lamp doesn't come on, the camera should focus normally.

ChuhChink
12th of September 2002 (Thu), 15:54
I was looking into buying a CrystalVue zoom add-on lens, but had a question--I was wondering if somebody here could help me out.

From what I gather, the CrystalVue needs an adapter for the Canon S40 in order be secured to the add-on lense. Does anybody have a picture or a link to a picture of this adapter? I don't quite understand how the adapter works or goes on the unthreaded telescoping lense of the camera.

Thanks.

Rustle
12th of September 2002 (Thu), 16:07
The original post on this thread had the link. Are you looking for something more?

http://www.ckcpower.com/s3040.htm

Russ

ChuhChink
14th of September 2002 (Sat), 02:40
Is the same adapter used, regardless of whether the add-on lense is telephoto or macro? In regards to the link above, will any 37mm lense/filter/attachment work?

delphinus
17th of October 2002 (Thu), 13:19
Hi all, just found out an alternative to CKC s30 filter adapter. Just check http://naojiro.dcp.jp/s30.html

Though the same technique is used, this adapter is not anodized, and looks better with s30 compared to CKC's black adapter (I don't understand why CKC anodized them in the first place considering the metal looks s30 has). More over the price is cheaper at 4800 yen (+- US$33)

More info required as I can't read Japanese, which is used in the website.

Delphin

bigdave
17th of October 2002 (Thu), 14:32
delphinus wrote:
Hi all, just found out an alternative to CKC s30 filter adapter. Just check http://naojiro.dcp.jp/s30.html
...More over the price is cheaper at 4800 yen (+- US$33)


That DOES look better than the ckc adapter! I translated the japanese site using altavista, but the english it gave me was kind of confusing. Delphin, did you happen to know how I could order something from Japan. I've never ordered anything from overseas before and I wondered if anyone could tell me how this works.

ruby
17th of October 2002 (Thu), 19:33
Hi I just found a new lens adapter for my S30 at bugeyedigital.

http://www.bugeyedigital.com/product_main/ckc-a40ad37.html

It only costs $23.00 and I think it is made by CK.
I have ordered it and the close up lens! Hopefully it will arrive this weekend. Will keep you all posted.


Ruby

delphinus
18th of October 2002 (Fri), 02:31
Just found out the following line at http://naojiro.dcp.jp/u-no.html : Sorry but we can not provide our works to foreign countries now!

Seems we need to rely to someone from Japan, which unfortunately quite difficult.

Ruby? I think you need to check the link again. I think that is an adapter for A40 not S30.

Delphin

ruby
18th of October 2002 (Fri), 12:18
whoops Thanks luckily they are in my area and I should'nt have any problem!!

ruby

delphinus
21st of October 2002 (Mon), 09:06
Been thinking of looking for contact in Japan to buy the adapter when I realized from the picture that the camera can't be turned off. The slider on/off switch will simply hit the above canopy like part of the lens cylinder.

Regards,

Delphin

anayv
22nd of October 2002 (Tue), 18:53
According to the folk who make the adapter for the S30/40,the camera WILL shut on and off.

Also,hitting the 'MACRO' button twice,enables close up shots. About 4" from the lens.I've taken a few shots that close.

look at the Rose flower shot . follow this link,

http://www2.photosig.com/userphotos.phpportfolioId=29584

anayv
22nd of October 2002 (Tue), 18:56
opps.Try this link instead.

http://www2.photosig.com/userphotos.php?portfolioId=29584

pat_ccf
23rd of October 2002 (Wed), 12:55
anayv wrote:
According to the folk who make the adapter for the S30/40,the camera WILL shut on and off.

Also,hitting the 'MACRO' button twice,enables close up shots. About 4" from the lens.I've taken a few shots that close.

look at the Rose flower shot . follow this link,

http://www2.photosig.com/userphotos.phpportfolioId=29584



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what do u mean 'WILL shut on and off?
With the adapter attaching, can I still switch the camera on and off?? How??

by the way, those photos from the link u recommended are great!!!

delphinus
23rd of October 2002 (Wed), 13:11
We got 2 adapters under discussion recently. One from CKC (www.ckcpower.com) and one from Japan. Both adapters will allow you to switch on and off, however the adapter from japan will not allow you to slide the lens cover back to original position. CKC's one will let you slide the lens cover back to original position.

Delphin

anayv
23rd of October 2002 (Wed), 19:29
Thanks.those shots from the link are mine.Some from the Canon S30,others from an older HP315.
Delphin explained it well,about the adapters.I should have specified.

ruby
29th of October 2002 (Tue), 12:43
I ordered the CK adapter and the Tiffen macro lens from Bug Eye digital. They are awesome. I will try to post some pics soon. I plan on ordering the wide angle and the telephoto lens by Christmas. The only drawback is that I will need a bigger camera bag.

ruby

Falc
28th of December 2002 (Sat), 16:59
Theres always the option of buying the underwater housing which then can use the sea&sea adapter and wide angle/macro bayonet lenses.

http://www.seaandsea.com/dig_conv_lens.html

hextor
21st of January 2003 (Tue), 06:36
Someone mentioned a while ago about using a step up ring to be able to avoid vignetting with the wide angle.

Does anyone remember how much setup this person was using? (i want to order online)

Also, can someone please post some samples on using the monocular?

Thanks!

bobio
27th of January 2003 (Mon), 17:14
I am planning on purshasing the adapter myself. The questuon I have is the difference between getting the 2x telephoto lens or getting the +7 and +10 close-up filters. Do you think they would produce the same effect?
I do alot of close-up landscape and garden pictures. Any feedback would be appreciated.

ruby
30th of January 2003 (Thu), 17:06
Hi I finally have a shot up taken with my macro lens on the s30 with the ck adapter. I have 2 tiffen lens. 10x + 7x both bought at bugeyedigital. check www.photosig.com under users Ruby Rieke and there is a macro shot of an Iris. I don't think you need to be signed up for this,but I am not sure. They have some really great photographers.

nachi
25th of February 2003 (Tue), 03:54
ruby wrote:
Hi I just found a new lens adapter for my S30 at bugeyedigital.

http://www.bugeyedigital.com/product_main/ckc-a40ad37.html

It only costs $23.00 and I think it is made by CK.
I have ordered it and the close up lens! Hopefully it will arrive this weekend. Will keep you all posted.


Ruby

Hi, I too think of purchasing it. How are the results?
Keep us posted. Considering that CKC adapter is $50, this
is a real good find. By the way does it work with s30 ?
The bugeyedigital page says its for A30 and A40.

Nachi.

ruby
6th of March 2003 (Thu), 17:43
Sorry I made a mistake on the first post. I got the adpter for the S30. It works great!! I love the macro lens. I also got the Crystalview scope but do not use it as much. This week I will try out a circular polarizer lens I bought. I found that if you are outdoors in the sun you should get a hoddman also.

check out my gallery under Orchids for some macro shots.

delphinus
20th of March 2003 (Thu), 11:40
I couldn't find any contact in Japan for me to buy the filter, so I end up buying CKC's adapter. My first impression is that it looks very ugly if you didn't attach any lens or filter, but after attaching any of them, it looked alright.

One thing I don't like is that it blocked the flash path resulting in vignetting at lower right of the LCD at full wide. However that can be easily fixed by zooming a little bit.

Overall I'm quite happy with it. Will try out the polarizer filter tomorrow afternoon.

Delphinus
PS S30

PS: I had very little background on photography, so I want to ask anybody if macro lens provide just magnifying effect or focus performance or provide both? Thanks in advance.

ruby
24th of March 2003 (Mon), 17:20
The macro lens lets you get closer to objects than you would be able to without it. Otherwise you can not focus. It also gives you a nicer blurred background.

Traste
15th of May 2003 (Thu), 12:08
I belive its stated somewhere on the CKC site that the adapters are black anodized to minimize reflections, which would affect image quality, but if you dont feel chique enough with a black adapter, maybe you can buy a bottle of silver spray paint and spray it silver.
Whats a little loss in image quality when you look soo much cooler with a matching adapter?

/Traste




delphinus wrote:
Hi all, just found out an alternative to CKC s30 filter adapter. Just check http://naojiro.dcp.jp/s30.html

Though the same technique is used, this adapter is not anodized, and looks better with s30 compared to CKC's black adapter (I don't understand why CKC anodized them in the first place considering the metal looks s30 has). More over the price is cheaper at 4800 yen (+- US$33)

More info required as I can't read Japanese, which is used in the website.

Delphin

doumworld
15th of May 2003 (Thu), 12:34
A very good adapter tube for S30 to S45 (metal) and for S50 (black) is here : http://idigicam.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=dcqa&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=58

eagles_creek
22nd of May 2003 (Thu), 17:29
Hello Ruby,

how's your crystalview doing?

Have you tried taking marco shots with it?

How does it compare with your tiffen close-up lens?

Hope to hear from you soon!

Thanks!

eagles_creek
22nd of May 2003 (Thu), 17:30
Hello Ruby,

how's your crystalview doing?

Have you tried taking marco shots with it?

How does it compare with your tiffen close-up lens?

Hope to hear from you soon!

Thanks!

chiquito3
31st of May 2003 (Sat), 07:15
Does this adapter really let you cole the whole lens cover, or it does only let movement for the on of click?
Please let me know.

chiquito003@aol.com

delphinus
31st of May 2003 (Sat), 23:09
Chiquito? Which adapter do you mean? So far we got 3 adapter:

CKC adapter: I owned this one and I can confirm that you can't close the lens cover.

Japanese adapter: Don't have this one, but judging from the picture, I'd say you can't close cover as well.

Korean adapter: same as japanese one.

Delphinus
PS S30

eagles_creek
1st of June 2003 (Sun), 01:05
delphinus wrote:
Chiquito? Which adapter do you mean? So far we got 3 adapter:

CKC adapter: I owned this one and I can confirm that you can't close the lens cover.

Japanese adapter: Don't have this one, but judging from the picture, I'd say you can't close cover as well.

Korean adapter: same as japanese one.

Delphinus
PS S30

That's right. I own the ckc adaptor too,and the cover cannot be closed once you have the adaptor on.

lord.hypnos
2nd of June 2003 (Mon), 20:36
delphinus wrote:
Japanese adapter: Don't have this one, but judging from the picture, I'd say you can't close cover as well.


You are correct. Next to the first set of pictures it reads that you can turn the camera off and on, but you are not able to close the lens cover.

From the text on the home page for the site, it seems like the guy is either taking a long break or shutting down. I read his diary page, and he moved in March which is the reason for break.

Sorry, delphinus. If I'd have known that you wanted to buy the adapter, I could have bought it for you. The owner of the site and I actually lived in the same city.

PappyVR4
3rd of June 2003 (Tue), 17:04
Hey guys. This adapter looks great, and I will definately have to try it out. I'm tired of being limited to the camera's stock lense.

For those of you who don't like that it's all black, I have a solution. I assume they want it black primarily in that inner area near the lense. The rest of it, you can sand or take a grinder too, and just remove the black anodizing. This will give you a nice brushed aluminum look to complement the rest of the camera. I think that painting over the anodizing will look not only cheap, but also will most likely chip.

delphinus
3rd of June 2003 (Tue), 18:50
Hi lord.hypnos,

I initially faced some problem when I ordering this adapter since they have to ship it internationally. But afterwards I managed to get my aunt to buy this for me. Thanks a lot lord.hypnos.

I got some question regarding super tele monocular. I saw one being sold in my hometown, Kenko KDT820 8x30. However they only have 28mm thread size. Now assuming that I'm using reverse ring 37-28mm, will there be a lot of vignetting? and also I'm worried on how to do manual focusing with this super tele monocular (whether fix the monocular focus and do MF with you cam or vice versa?).

Delphinus
PS S30

muzikool
8th of June 2003 (Sun), 15:22
doumworld wrote:
A very good adapter tube for S30 to S45 (metal) and for S50 (black) is here : http://idigicam.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=dcqa&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=58

Hey guys, I'm new to this... thanks for the great information here on adapters. Am I correct in that none of the adapters allow the cover to close once the adapter is connected? Also, has anyone looked into this adapter that doumworld provided a link too? It's not a big deal to me that the adapter matches the camera, but it is a good-looking adapter! The price difference from the one at buyeyedigital is what drew my attention, as I don't have much extra cash to spare. Thanks for the feedback in advance.

pblevitt
10th of June 2003 (Tue), 08:32
Muzikool

I've got the BugeyeDigital adapter, and it doesn't let you close the cover.

Looking at the 'other one (tube)', it looks from the pictures that the same applies (notice the cut-out on the side of the barrel).

If you could open and close the cover, you would need some way of keeping the adapter lined up with the lenses barrel, so the adapter would have to clamp to a second point of the camera for stability. This would make it too unwieldy.

Normally, with price differences, you get different quality of build.

I noticed that the 'tube' one has a rubber type antislip beside the tripod screw. This may mean that the metal may be thinner. Wont know until they get tested side-by-side.

chiquito3
10th of June 2003 (Tue), 08:48
There is a new adapter made by Kenko. It is so new that they don't have a photo yet. I spoke with a sales person on the Filter Connection Site.
http://www.2filter.com/

They say it is made of a silver colored plastic and it screws at the bottom of the camera and also a part of it mounts on top of it. The thread is 30.5MM.
I'm waiting for Kenko to post the pics. on their site or for someone here to recomend it. The price is also attractive $23.66. If any one knows anything please let me know.

chiquito003@aol.com

Corey H
10th of June 2003 (Tue), 22:55
A summary of the lens adapters would be nice. So far the ones I'm interested in are:

http://www.ckcpower.com/s3040.htm

AND

http://idigicam.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=dcqa&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=58


Any Feedback on these adapters????


Also, which thread count is most common. I want to buy lenses that I will be able to use in the future. Is 37mm more common than 30.5mm?

Any help on these matters would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Corey

delphinus
10th of June 2003 (Tue), 23:40
Hi Corey,

Have you check with idigicam whether the price listed is in US$ or other kind of $? I tried to find the information but cannot find it, so I just assumed that it is US$.

As for your question regarding which one is more common, I'd say that 37 is more common since all the monocular lens sold in www.CKCpower.com uses 37mm thread.

I personnaly feel that the question is not that important since you can buy ring adapter/ reverse ring adapter to mount any size of filter or lens to your camera. However with 30.5mm thread count, vignetting will occur more if using more than 1 filter or any adapter ring as compared to 37mm adapter..

Hope this clarifies your doubt.

delphinus
PS S30

Corey H
11th of June 2003 (Wed), 12:29
delphinus,

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm pretty sure the price at Idigicam is in U.S. dollars.

I think I am going to get the adapter for the s30 from them. Although I like the looks of the CKC adapter better. (as far as stability goes)

delphinus
12th of July 2003 (Sat), 07:19
Hi all, I've bought a filter adapter from kenko (30.5mm) and all I can say is it is great. I'll compare it directly to ckc adapter below:

Kenko (30.5mm)
*Plastic Material: I like it since I can remove scratching-my-camera worries from my head. It also hug the camera from botton, front, and below, thus makes it mch more stable compared to ckc. The position of lens toward filters is also closer (more precise) compared to ckc and this offers the same vignetting degree to ckc (although it is only 30.5mm).
*Size: Smaller and foldable. Can easily be put in your pocket.
*Flash performance: This is what I greatly like from Kenko. Vignetting due to blocked line of sight is greatly reduced. Now I only need to zoom in 2 step to remove vignetting as compared to 4 steps ckc need.
*AF focus: Not blocked.
*Price: Wohoo, I got this at S$40 as compared to US$49 of ckc

I've been working on my own filter adapter for s30 with the performance beat ckc's adapter in a way that I can close lens cover and more stable. However due to very high price of manufacturing 1 prototype, and due to the cheap product of kenko, and due to the difficulty in getting screw material, I've decided not to go to mass production.

Hope this helps.

Delphinus
PS S30

delphinus
12th of July 2003 (Sat), 07:28
Hi Ruby? I remember that you have bought a +10 and +7 tiffen close up lens. Can I check with you whether this can help me in taking picture of 1mm wide object and fill at least half of LCD? The object I'm planning to capture is a very small water droplet.

Delphinus
PS S30

chiquito3
12th of July 2003 (Sat), 07:39
Delphinus

Will the adapter work with step up rings of 37mm thread?
I'm new at photography, how do I minimize vignetin with
the Kenko adapter?

delphinus
12th of July 2003 (Sat), 09:21
Hi Chiquito3, I forgot to mention that the adapter comes with a 30.5->37mm step up ring. I've tried stacking step up ring -> Cicular Polarizer -> UV filter. No vignetting occur at full wide.

Another thing that I forgot to mention is that the vignetting due to flash occurs when I put the filters (step ring and 2 filters), and need about 2 step zoom toward tele to eliminate the vignetting. with adapter only, there is negligible vignetting at full wide.

Delphinus
PS S30

Corey H
14th of July 2003 (Mon), 23:59
Delphinus,

Is the Kenko adapter the same one as the acetar?

The acetar is also plastic and you describe it perfectly. If you don't know which one the acetar is, you can look on ebay and type. "canon s30 lens adapter" and it will show up from Henry's.

It sounds the same. Would you consider this to be the best one of them all? How about adding lens' to it. Will it be sturdy enough to handle them?

Thanks
Corey

delphinus
15th of July 2003 (Tue), 08:38
Yep, it's the same thing. I have an exactly the same carton box, plastic box, but under kenko's name. So it seems the company kenko engage to manufacture it decided that they can sell to others as well.

I'd say I'm quite happy with this adapter due to its small size. Answering your question regarding its sturdiness, it is very sturdy or at least on par with ckc adapter. There are 2 point of attachment for this adapter, one from the tripod and the other one (latch type) goes to optical viewfinder (very slightly block your view). This combination makes it very sturdy.

However I have one point to add. The tripod mount is now slightly off the center. It is not directly below the lens, but it moves toward outer ridge.

Hope this helps.

delphinus
PS S30

PS: Btw it is not the best one available. The best one is of course my own prototype that I can close the lens cover. :)

Corey H
15th of July 2003 (Tue), 10:43
Thanks for the quick reply.

Yeah that helps me out quite a bit, and therefore am gonna pick one of these up. Now I'm just wondering what kind of wide angle/telephoto/filter lens to purchase. If anyone has any idea on which lens' are good let me know. I'm trying to get an idea myself but there are a lot of mixed reviews.

Corey

anayv
15th of July 2003 (Tue), 12:34
I use mostly Tiffen for my S30.(37mm)
Good quality,and cheap.

I have a 2x tele Converter($59.00,US)
Circular Polarizer (19.99,US).
UV lens.
A Nuetral density filter and a 812 warming filter.

Also a CrystalVue Optics Sharp Shooter 8x mono zoom lens.($149.00, US).This gives 8x magnification.
Factor in your 3x canon zoom lens,and around 24x magnification is possible.The 8x zoom lens can be focused manually.

Some shots :

www.pbase.com/anayv

ANAYV

delphinus
15th of July 2003 (Tue), 13:18
Hi Anayv, do you mean that the 8x tele must be focused manually or can be focused manually? Mind sharing to us your experience in using it, whether it is difficult to focus or frequency of usage, etc? Right now I'm in the process of deciding which lens to use. I saw 8x 30.5mm tele lens sold here at S$179, but I do not know the performance comparison to Crystalvue. Does Crystalvue lens exhibit severe vignetting at full wide?

Delphinus
PS S30

Corey H
16th of July 2003 (Wed), 00:48
Another question about addon lens'

I'm getting the Acetar adatper which is 30.5mm. Can I use a 28mm wide angle lens without getting vignetting. Or am I kidding myself. The reason I ask is I have narrowed my wide angle choices down to Nikons.

I want the most compact model, but this has 28mm threads. Is there even such thing as a 30.5mm - 28mm ring???

Corey

delphinus
16th of July 2003 (Wed), 01:19
Hmmm, I've ever heard about reverse ring to use smaler-than-available adapter ring. But up to this day, I haven't found a single shop that is actually selling it, so you might want to try finding that in your local store.

I'm not too sure myself, but I think the lens diameter is bigger than 28mm lens, which will definitely create vignetting. Even if you're using 37mm wide, there will still be slight vignetting. So in the case of 28mm, I think it should exhibit worse case of vignetting.

Delphinus
PS S30

maxd
16th of July 2003 (Wed), 08:13
Hi Anayv,
I'm planning to buy one of the adapter under discussion and I'm curious about the use of the CrystalVue Optics Sharp Shooter 8x mono zoom lens. I'm a bit worried of the difficult to focus due to the fact that it's almost impossible to see if your subject is sharp through the S30 monitor, even if in the center-magnified manual focus mode. You wrote that you set the monucular focus manually, but how can you do that? Do you set it to a fix value before mounting the Sharp Shooter to the camera or do you focus whith the monocular already screwed to the adpter/camera? How do you combine the focus setting of the in-built lens with the monocular focus?
And, abuot your Tiffen lens, how does the camera AF system work when you use the adapter with the 2x Tele converter?
Any reply/comment is apreciated.

delphinus
16th of July 2003 (Wed), 11:09
Hi Maxd, I'm using kenko 2x telephoto lens. From what I know, all 2x tele lens and below are designed to work with camera's auto focus. So there'll be no manual focusing needed.

For 8x tele lens, I believe you MUST do manual focusing. Anayv, would you mind clearing our doubt?

Delphinus
PS S30

NB: Yippie, this is my 100th posting

maxd
13th of August 2003 (Wed), 06:05
I recently found a new Canon S30, S40, S50 LENS & FILTER KIT offered on eBay by panwebi-auctions:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2944701858&category=30011
The adapter is the same plastic one already seen under the brands Kenko and Acetar, but I'd like to know more about how the unbranded 0.42x and 2x lenses work. That kit is cheaper than every other similar solution I've found, but I'm a bit sceptic about the quality of the lenses.
I've also just found a similar kit by 47st.Photo, with the same adapter but different lenses (Opteka 0.5x and 2x):
http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=2945686808
If anyone owns or has tried one of that kits, share his experience will be very appreciated. Thanks.

anayv
13th of August 2003 (Wed), 16:36
sorry for the long delay.I just received it today in my e-mail.

Once the 8 x zoom lens is on your camera,you need to focus the lens .There is a decent range to adjust.
I just look in the LCD,then turn the barrel until the image looks the sharpest in the LCD.Then i allow the camera to auto focus.Most times,pictures come out in perfect focus,as with the 3x lens on the camera.

Hardly any vignetting with this lens.Only at full max wide angle.more vignetting with the 2x Teleconverter by tiffen.

Tripod is necessary,with this much zoom.i never handhold with 8x lens on camera.That would be dumb.

In really bright outdoor light,it can be difficult to get the maximum focus.Some folk use manual focus with this.
i never have.

you can always take a few more shots,adjusting the zoom focus slightly.

Or,use the focus bracketing feature on your S50!!

Did you get it?

How much better than the S30?
More noise?
Faster focus?

thanks
ANAYV

maxd
14th of August 2003 (Thu), 09:36
Hi Anayv,

Thanks for your clarifying answer about the use of the monocular lens.

My new S50 is coming from Japan (in Italy's stores that camera was toooo expansive for me) and I'll get it next week. I've been reading a lot about the new 'noisy' S50 CCD and I was tempted to buy the S45 for that reason. I ended up choosing the S50 for a price reason (it was only $20 more than the S45) and because I rarely take pitures in low light with the flash off. So I decided for more resolution (even if that means more noise too). I loved my S30 and I'm sure I will love my new S50 with its improoved functions (focus bracketing, flash control, etc.). As far as I will have my new camera I'll let you know my opinion about the difference between S30 and S50.

What exactly do you mean when you say: In really bright outdoor light,it can be difficult to get the maximum focus.
Is it 'cause of the diffucult of watching images on LCD in the daylight ?

I'm planning to take pictures of wild animals (beavers, chamois, etc.), but I dont want to walk for hours with my heavy SLR, a tripod and a couple of lenses (one of them is a 500 mm) in my bag. Have you had any experience with your digital set (S30 + adapter + 8X monocular + tripod) and this kind of subjects ?

anayv
15th of August 2003 (Fri), 20:51
yes,the LCd is hard to see in bright sunlight,and thus focusing is more difficult.

i took some shots from about 30 feet away.

I can e-mail you a few shots.

e-mail me,as I don't visit this site too often.

ANAYV

young24
19th of August 2003 (Tue), 11:32
Help some advice ... can a 30.5mm adapter fits a 30mm lens.
Brought a pair of sony 2x and 0.5m (30mm) for my video cam before ... would be good if they are compatible :)

Ps: anyone from singapore ... can advise where can find the adapter.

Thanks

delphinus
19th of August 2003 (Tue), 13:29
I bought mine at Cathay Photo on Peninsula Plaza level 1. That place is also the best bet to find reverse adapter ring 30.5mm -> 30mm.

Delphinus
PS S30

LoneShadow
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 04:06
Hello all,

The thread ive been searching for since past few days all over internet :)

As someone mentioned in the earlier posts, I too got interested in the ebay deals, It has the kinko adapter, and some opteka/digital optics lenses.

I am not sure how good the quality of those lens are.

Here are few questions I have, hope someone could answer, and the original poster of this thread updates his/her first post, if he/she can.

1) Which adapter is better, the kinko or ckc one ?

2) 30.5mm threading or 37mm threading is good ?

3) which lens are good and at what price ?

Or even if the combos you bought and at what price and from where, would be great too.

I know I can read through the discussions above, but a consolidated message would benifit all.

Thanks for taking your time to reply,
LS

phidong
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 06:42
Please don't ressurect old threads. :/ They stop for a reason.