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Ronald S. Jr.
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 12:14
For those of you trying to give up coffee, but don't want to...find an herbal tea in the stores called "Roastaroma". It's one of those celestial seasonings. Then, if you use milk in your coffee, go over and get some Vanilla Organic Silk soy milk. Those two together are a wonderful, yet tasty alternative to coffee and cow's milk.

Ronald S. Jr.
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 12:16
Ron, you'd get along famously with my mom. ;) She is STRICTLY organic, natural whole foods. It was amazing the impact that change had on her life. That woman has so much knowledge about foods it's scary. Pesticides and 'fake' foods are at the top of her DO NOT TOUCH list. And she has done her best to walk her children away from them too.

But... she is able to do that. She can afford it, and the change only affects her and my dad. He eats the same way, and has since been taken off all his cholesterol and blood pressure medicine. It is amazing.
It is much harder to make that change if you don't have access to the kind of foods you need, and if you can't afford it.

I have learned a lot from my mom, and get much information from her, but I try to use what she says in a practical way for me and my family.

I have stopped drinking coffee. :shock: Strictly on her advice and nudging. (Ok, I admit, I'm weaning myself from coffee. Its a work in progress)

You say that you lost 3 lbs a day? Was that for an extended period of time? That's 90 lbs a month... that too me sounds dangerous. But what do I know. I've never in my life lost more than 20 lbs a month.

Thanks for your input.

Yes ma'am. 1.5-3 lbs. daily for a period of roughly a month or so. Then I hit a rough patch and couldn't afford organic, let alone all the supplements for detoxification that I was taking. So, it stopped. A little came back, but not much. I've just started again, so we'll see how it goes.

Oh, and I don't know how old you are, but at my age, it's not too dangerous to lose weight quickly.

P.S.- I rarely exercised during that period. That was diet change alone that knocked off the weight. I was afraid to find out how much I'd lose if I worked out, too. I also didn't particularly have to moderate my intake of the organic food, either. I rarely was hungry at night. I felt like a million bucks, which was saying something big. Because of the 'american killer diet', I'd had a slight upset stomach 24/7 my whole life. For the first time in my whole life, after 23 years, I felt great. That's how good organic is.

In2Photos
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 12:22
Yes ma'am. 1.5-3 lbs. daily for a period of roughly a month or so. Then I hit a rough patch and couldn't afford organic, let alone all the supplements for detoxification that I was taking. So, it stopped. A little came back, but not much. I've just started again, so we'll see how it goes.

Oh, and I don't know how old you are, but at my age, it's not too dangerous to lose weight quickly.

P.S.- I rarely exercised during that period. That was diet change alone that knocked off the weight. I was afraid to find out how much I'd lose if I worked out, too. I also didn't particularly have to moderate my intake of the organic food, either. I rarely was hungry at night. I felt like a million bucks, which was saying something big. Because of the 'american killer diet', I'd had a slight upset stomach 24/7 my whole life. For the first time in my whole life, after 23 years, I felt great. That's how good organic is.
Did a Doctor tell you it was OK to lose that much weight? I doubt it. At that rate you likely lost muscle mass to go along with any fat, and probably lots of water weight, especially since you did not workout.

Athena
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 12:24
For those of you trying to give up coffee, but don't want to...find an herbal tea in the stores called "Roastaroma". It's one of those celestial seasonings. Then, if you use milk in your coffee, go over and get some Vanilla Organic Silk soy milk. Those two together are a wonderful, yet tasty alternative to coffee and cow's milk.

I just use the Silk Plain, Light. It's healthier than the vanilla stuff. I don't like flavored coffees, so can't handle flavored soymilk in my coffee either. Just my own quirk. lol

Ronald S. Jr.
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 12:45
There's nothing wrong with a couple grams of fat. Also, the sugar isn't very unhealthy either, as it's not refined sugar, rather evaporated cane juice.

Athena
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 15:15
I save the fat and sugar for other treats. ;)

Ronald S. Jr.
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 15:21
So what's your "healthy" treats?

I do vanilla soymilk and strawberry smoothies, dried apple rings, dried pineapple, and uh...I don't know. I guess I'm not the "treat" type.

Athena
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 15:36
I don't really do sugar treats either, but if I want to do something random like eat a cookie from a batch I just made for the kids I do - guiltfree. I tend to want things that involve salt and cheese. My mother jokes that I should have one of those salt licks that they make for deer. :lol:

I have a snack mix that I like a lot - soybeans, pepitas, sunflower seeds, raisins, almonds, and cherries. It comes from Walmart. I also like carrots as a snack. On the less healthy side, occassionally I have a glass of wine and/or a few squares of dark chocolate. :)

BearLeeAlive
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 15:47
So what's your "healthy" treats?
Mine usually involve fruit, or sometimes veggies. I will have a few nuts (usually almonds), a bit of low fat cheese, a bit of yogurt or cottage cheese, or some other small simple protein source with the fruit or veggies.

BearLeeAlive
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 15:49
I On the less healthy side, occassionally I have a glass of wine and/or a few squares of dark chocolate. :)
A glass of red wine, combined with a bit of cheese is actually a fairly healthy, balanced snack. Why do you think there are so many skinny Frenchmen. ;)

Ronald S. Jr.
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 16:00
I've never understood what people enjoy so much about chocolate...I was just never a fan. I mean, it's ok, but it's nothing special to me.

Ronald S. Jr.
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 16:01
A glass of red wine, combined with a bit of cheese is actually a fairly healthy, balanced snack. Why do you think there are so many skinny Frenchmen. ;)

What's the healthy part of the cheese?

BearLeeAlive
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 16:09
What's the healthy part of the cheese?
The stuff inside the wax. ;)

That's the yummy part anyway. Cheese in small portions are not that bad, especially if you choose the low fat ones. Other than cheese, and a bit of ice cream, I hardly eat any milk products. I used to drink a couple glasses of milk with a meal, now it is just water.

Maxed Out
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 16:41
Won't take this long ever again:lol:......

UPDATE:


http://maxypad19.smugmug.com/photos/204083968-L.jpg

Total Loss of ~129 lbs

~5.357 lbs lost per person

cfpackerfan
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 16:59
I've never understood what people enjoy so much about chocolate...I was just never a fan. I mean, it's ok, but it's nothing special to me.

What's the healthy part of the cheese?

So am I to understand that 'going natural and organic' strips away every ounce of humor and adventure from a person? If so... I'll stay fat. :p

dilorenzo1954
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 17:18
I've never understood what people enjoy so much about chocolate...I was just never a fan. I mean, it's ok, but it's nothing special to me.
Ron, Ron, Ron....You just don't understand! As an avowed chocoholic I have to ask my wife to hide the dark chocolate M&M's lest I eat the whole 2 lb bag. Worse yet, they just came out with dark chocolate PEANUT M&M's. Chocolate is about the only thing I have no self-control over! Well... that and pizza...:p

BearLeeAlive
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 17:52
So am I to understand that 'going natural and organic' strips away every ounce of humor and adventure from a person? If so... I'll stay fat. :p
:p :p :p

Ronald S. Jr.
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 17:56
So am I to understand that 'going natural and organic' strips away every ounce of humor and adventure from a person? If so... I'll stay fat. :p

I know you're joking, but just the same, I didn't say it affected people that way. Simply, eating is a means of survival. It's not something you [should] do just because you want to; it's something you must do. People have come to think of eating as a fun, social thing. Even so, it doesn't mean you have to eat unhealthy things in the company of others. Eating can be fun...but it can also be healthy.

BearLeeAlive
4th of October 2007 (Thu), 18:16
Now, that was much better put Ron. I know many of our friends that come over and eat our healthier fair actually enjoy it and look forward to it. My wife has discovered many, many recipes that offer a healthier choice, and they are delicious.

I still believe that if you eat wee bits of the so called unhealthy stuff, but only occasionally, you can still remain healthy. Exercise is at least as important to a healthy body as food is. Losing weight, with little gain to ones physical well being is in itself not the route to healthiness.

In2Photos
5th of October 2007 (Fri), 05:57
I know you're joking, but just the same, I didn't say it affected people that way. Simply, eating is a means of survival. It's not something you [should] do just because you want to; it's something you must do. People have come to think of eating as a fun, social thing. Even so, it doesn't mean you have to eat unhealthy things in the company of others. Eating can be fun...but it can also be healthy.
While I partially agree with your comments I would ask you this: Why do we have taste buds if eating isn't supposed to be fun? Food can be experienced just like any other aspect in life. The problem is not that people enjoy food, it is that they enjoy too much food. Big difference!

Athena
5th of October 2007 (Fri), 06:21
Agree - also a problem though that we have so many artificial and modified foods that have been manufactured to fool our tastebuds. :( It certainly makes eating healthy more difficult for everyone.

Ronald S. Jr.
5th of October 2007 (Fri), 08:26
While I partially agree with your comments I would ask you this: Why do we have taste buds if eating isn't supposed to be fun? Food can be experienced just like any other aspect in life. The problem is not that people enjoy food, it is that they enjoy too much food. Big difference!

You have taste buds so you can tell what you're eating. Otherwise, you wouldn't know when someone put anti-freeze in your soup.

In2Photos
5th of October 2007 (Fri), 08:49
You have taste buds so you can tell what you're eating. Otherwise, you wouldn't know when someone put anti-freeze in your soup.
Right, I forgot we were created after antifreeze! :rolleyes:

Ronald S. Jr.
5th of October 2007 (Fri), 08:52
:lol: You know I was joking. Seriously, though. It's just so we can tell what we're eating. You have to eat and drink certain things, and without taste buds, you wouldn't know the difference. Taste buds are just another built-in "safety device".

By your comment about "we were created", though, I fear that the "why we have taste buds" discussion is heading toward religion, so we won't go there. Someone is bound to say that a man in the sky wanted us to enjoy food. I get the feeling you might be a man of science, though. ;-)

In2Photos
5th of October 2007 (Fri), 08:57
:lol: You know I was joking. Seriously, though. It's just so we can tell what we're eating. You have to eat and drink certain things, and without taste buds, you wouldn't know the difference. Taste buds are just another built-in "safety device".

By your comment about "we were created, though, I fear that the "why we have taste buds" discussion is heading toward religion, so we won't go there. Someone is bound to say that a man in the sky wanted us to enjoy food. I get the feeling you might be a man of science, though. ;-)
I am. But I still believe in you know who. And yeah, I knew what you meant. ;)

cfpackerfan
5th of October 2007 (Fri), 10:10
the "why we have taste buds" discussion is heading toward religion This cracked me up. Don't know why. :lol:

Good morning all.
I'm enjoying a wonderful cup of tea and a small handful of raw almonds and dried cranberries. (And I checked, there is sugar in my cranberries. Ick)

In2Photos
5th of October 2007 (Fri), 10:21
This cracked me up. Don't know why. :lol:

Good morning all.
I'm enjoying a wonderful cup of tea and a small handful of raw almonds and dried cranberries. (And I checked, there is sugar in my cranberries. Ick)
There is sugar in all fruit Cat. ;) Some just have more than others. Dried fruit is the WORST fruit you can eat. It still contains all the sugar but none of the water leaving you hungry and wanting more.

cfpackerfan
5th of October 2007 (Fri), 10:27
There is sugar in all fruit Cat. ;) Some just have more than others. Dried fruit is the WORST fruit you can eat. It still contains all the sugar but none of the water leaving you hungry and wanting more.I meant that there was added sugar. :p
Maybe I need to find a different fruit to go with my almonds. :cool:

In2Photos
5th of October 2007 (Fri), 10:33
I meant that there was added sugar. :p
Maybe I need to find a different fruit to go with my almonds. :cool:
And some even have added sugar. Amazing isn't it? Do you like grapes? That would be a great substitute.

Ronald S. Jr.
5th of October 2007 (Fri), 11:00
Just make sure they're Chilean grapes. Best for you, and best tasting.

My unsulphured organic dried apples are absolutely delicious, and have absolutely nothing added to them.

Athena
5th of October 2007 (Fri), 16:16
You have taste buds so you can tell what you're eating. Otherwise, you wouldn't know when someone put anti-freeze in your soup.

just for clarity - antifreeze (Ethylene glycol) is sweet. This is what makes it so very dangerous. Toxic and yummy is not so clever around kids and pets... :(

kja
5th of October 2007 (Fri), 22:27
Wow, what a hoot! Just read back a bit :)

I have just been living my normal life, not obsessing about anything. Eating to live and enjoying the heck out of a whole variety of things - sometimes for the pure hell of it :)

Call me a happy clam even if I'm not the perfectly constructed model it seems many wish to be or that "society" holds up as the goal!

Didn't weigh in this week, though expect not much of a change from last week. Still have some work to do to get some inches off and some core strength back, but I'll get there.

Great job, Everyone - we can get there!

Mgdh
8th of October 2007 (Mon), 06:16
Right, getting back to the 'weigh-ins' ;)

Maxy Update Down a further 1lb this morning :D

Came as a surprise as I was expecting to hold steady or gain a little due to the weekend.

*Doing the happy dance here*

-Pleiades-
8th of October 2007 (Mon), 06:22
almost forgot to put my weigh in up.

Only lost half a pound this week, but it was better than what I was expecting. Ate (and drank) a few dinners this week I shouldn't have, so just happy I didn't put anything on.

dilorenzo1954
8th of October 2007 (Mon), 11:24
I was afraid of the scale today!! No walking while on vacation due to blisters and eating more that during a regular week...but I was able to maintain and actually lost 2 tenths of a pound:D. But I'll just keep it as even for the week. On the good side, I should be able to resume walking in a few days as my feet are feeling much better...;)

kja
8th of October 2007 (Mon), 17:25
Wow, three losers on a Monday morning! Way to go, Guys!!!

I was out and about doing what I love to do this weekend - diving - so didn't do my usual walking. Hopefully it will even out! Did 15 minutes on the elliptical yesterday + 10 minute brisk walk + 50+ minute beach walk, so it was a pretty good day considering I was tied to my desk most of it!

Ed...how are the blisters? Sorry to hear they slowed you down. Bare feet whenever I can are the way to go!

In2Photos
9th of October 2007 (Tue), 08:31
Right, getting back to the 'weigh-ins' ;)

Maxy Update Down a further 1lb this morning :D

Came as a surprise as I was expecting to hold steady or gain a little due to the weekend.

*Doing the happy dance here*
Way to go Mark!
almost forgot to put my weigh in up.

Only lost half a pound this week, but it was better than what I was expecting. Ate (and drank) a few dinners this week I shouldn't have, so just happy I didn't put anything on.
Grat job Kinnon.
I was afraid of the scale today!! No walking while on vacation due to blisters and eating more that during a regular week...but I was able to maintain and actually lost 2 tenths of a pound:D. But I'll just keep it as even for the week. On the good side, I should be able to resume walking in a few days as my feet are feeling much better...;)
Not bad Ed considering being on vacation and all.

In2Photos
9th of October 2007 (Tue), 08:35
Maxy - I am down 2 pounds this week! Woo hoo! Looks like working out is starting to work out. :lol: 3 days a week with the weights, plus I walked at the air show Saturday, golfed on Sunday, plus ran around doing an engagement shoot, and softball last night doesn't leave much time to eat (or sleep). :p

Here is one from the air show Saturday.

http://www.pbase.com/madawson/image/86900377.jpg

dilorenzo1954
9th of October 2007 (Tue), 08:54
Wow, three losers on a Monday morning! Way to go, Guys!!!

I was out and about doing what I love to do this weekend - diving - so didn't do my usual walking. Hopefully it will even out! Did 15 minutes on the elliptical yesterday + 10 minute brisk walk + 50+ minute beach walk, so it was a pretty good day considering I was tied to my desk most of it!

Ed...how are the blisters? Sorry to hear they slowed you down. Bare feet whenever I can are the way to go!
Kristin, It sounds like you did just fine (and had a lot of fun to boot!). The blisters are healing... The worst one's are on the back of my heel/ankles, so wearing shoes kinda aggravates them:(. I added some moleskin to the back of my shoes and they feel a lot better (can't wear sandals to work). Thanks for asking.:D




Not bad Ed considering being on vacation and all. Thanks for the support Mike! Sounds like your program is "working out" well!:D

PeaPicker
9th of October 2007 (Tue), 09:34
Hey Max down another 2 lbs. About 5 to go.

POTN WINNERS UNITE! :D

Mgdh
9th of October 2007 (Tue), 11:27
Way to go Mark!

Grat job Kinnon.

Not bad Ed considering being on vacation and all.

Thanks, Mike, and well done indeed to the other two ;)

Maxy - I am down 2 pounds this week! Woo hoo! Looks like working out is starting to work out. :lol: 3 days a week with the weights, plus I walked at the air show Saturday, golfed on Sunday, plus ran around doing an engagement shoot, and softball last night doesn't leave much time to eat (or sleep). :p

Here is one from the air show Saturday.

http://www.pbase.com/madawson/image/86900377.jpg

Nice Warthog! And congrats to you on the loss, too :D

Hey Max down another 2 lbs. About 5 to go.

POTN WINNERS UNITE! :D

Yay, well done!!!

milleker
9th of October 2007 (Tue), 12:17
Please put me back down to 14 more lbs to go, 6 lost so far. Don't know how I've done it but last week managed to take a few off even though I haven't been watching my intake. So, vacations are done, its time to buckle back down.

The Outlaw
9th of October 2007 (Tue), 13:27
havent been walking much due to being fat and that we've had temps 85+ when it should be 60, humidity that feels like your hiking a jungle trail while just walking down the street. sweating so much doing nothing that i've had to resort to changing and showering 3x a day. im one of those people that when everyone else is comfortable im about 5deg too hot

milleker
9th of October 2007 (Tue), 14:03
You must be east coast? Had a photo outing to the Renfest here in Maryland. Car bumper thermometer said 92 and it is rarely ever wrong. On top of that we've been in a drought and the dust in the air was very thick.

The Outlaw
9th of October 2007 (Tue), 20:26
You must be east coast? Had a photo outing to the Renfest here in Maryland. Car bumper thermometer said 92 and it is rarely ever wrong. On top of that we've been in a drought and the dust in the air was very thick. central pennsylvania. we set a record temp the other day of 85 it said on the news thats the hottest its been on that date since the 40's

guinea
10th of October 2007 (Wed), 06:59
I lost another 2lbs this week.

This is actually my lowest loss since I started, but I'm not downhearted as my average since starting th programme is still over 5lbs a week. I have now lost a total of 8 stones and 6 pounds.

cylentka
10th of October 2007 (Wed), 07:32
Wow, this must be the "lose two pounds" week! I have also lost TWO pounds! :D I wasn't sure what to expect because I didn't weigh last week, and didn't get my weight workout last week. I did try to walk more to make up for it, but then I got hungry for ham and cooked a big ham dinner last weekend. I have been really good about eating wisely most of the time, so it looks like that is working. Or else its just a fluke and the weight will re-appear next week, lol. Time will tell.

Congrats to everyone who has lost some this past week. You are all very inspirational even though I don't have the time these days to congrat each of you by name.

OFFICIAL MAXY UPDATE- two pounds down, Max. And thanks again for your work on the chart.

kja
10th of October 2007 (Wed), 18:30
Max - 9.5 left to go for me...

What a week for me...my emotional life has been all over the place and that just makes everything suck. Today is the worst. Hopefully it will get better.

Good on ya' all for staying the course and making progress!

Maxed Out
11th of October 2007 (Thu), 06:16
great job everybody:).....I got you all in the chart....I'll post it as soon as I get back from school;)

cylentka
12th of October 2007 (Fri), 08:50
I just read THIS (http://life.familyeducation.com/nutrition-and-diet/weight/46762.html?page=1&detoured=1) article. Now I'm a tad confused. I always thought the less fat in a diet, the better. And now this is telling me that 20% - 30% of my calories should be fat?? "Good" fat, that is. Any thoughts or comments? Do you folks factor in a little fat every day? I know I eat some fat, even when I eat low-fat food, but I seriously doubt that 20% of my calories are fat calories these days. Maybe I'll have to put the sausage back in breakfast, lol. :D

BearLeeAlive
12th of October 2007 (Fri), 09:19
Wanda, essential fats are, well essential. ;)
I'm thinking breakfast sausages to not fall into this category, sorry. :lol:
This is why almonds are a popular snack, salmon is a popular fish, and olive oil used on salads as a way to the some good fat into your system. It obviously does need to be balanced with you intake of proteins and carbs. I am far from an expert, only going on a few bits I have learned when I lost a big chunk of weight a few years back, but any Omega-3 fatty acids are good ones.

In2Photos
12th of October 2007 (Fri), 09:46
I just read THIS (http://life.familyeducation.com/nutrition-and-diet/weight/46762.html?page=1&detoured=1) article. Now I'm a tad confused. I always thought the less fat in a diet, the better. And now this is telling me that 20% - 30% of my calories should be fat?? "Good" fat, that is. Any thoughts or comments? Do you folks factor in a little fat every day? I know I eat some fat, even when I eat low-fat food, but I seriously doubt that 20% of my calories are fat calories these days. Maybe I'll have to put the sausage back in breakfast, lol. :D
I try for a 40/40/20 diet. That is 40% of my calories come from protein, 40% from Carbs, and 20% from fat. The 20% fat is mostly made up of unsaturated fats from nuts, olive oil, and some animal fat (like fat from fish).

Use www.fitday.com (http://www.fitday.com) to check your content of calories and calories from fat.

cylentka
12th of October 2007 (Fri), 12:05
Wanda, essential fats are, well essential. ;)
I'm thinking breakfast sausages to not fall into this category, sorry. :lol:
This is why almonds are a popular snack, salmon is a popular fish, and olive oil used on salads as a way to the some good fat into your system. It obviously does need to be balanced with you intake of proteins and carbs. I am far from an expert, only going on a few bits I have learned when I lost a big chunk of weight a few years back, but any Omega-3 fatty acids are good ones.

Thanks for the input, Jim. I have been eating almonds for a midmorning snack, and today I added a few to my lunch. And I'll try to eat some salmon every week. I only like canned salmon, but I suppose that is better than deep-fried perch. ;) I still get breakfast sausage on Saturday morning and ice cream after church on Sunday. :)

I try for a 40/40/20 diet. That is 40% of my calories come from protein, 40% from Carbs, and 20% from fat. The 20% fat is mostly made up of unsaturated fats from nuts, olive oil, and some animal fat (like fat from fish).

Use www.fitday.com (http://www.fitday.com) to check your content of calories and calories from fat.

Thanks for the link! Looks like a great program. I will try to tweak my diet a bit. For some reason I tend to need lots of protein. I feel starved, weak and lethargic if I don't get tons of protein. I guess the good thing is that I'm learning a lot about how my body needs and uses food, so that when I'm at my weight goal I should hopefully be able to maintain my weight with a little effort. I know there is no way I can go back to my old eating lifestyle, but I'm starting to see how I can feel full and satisfied on less food. Unfortunately, I still crave salty foods and will eat too many Ruffles if they are around, lol. :p

Becky N
12th of October 2007 (Fri), 12:27
Checking in to let Max know to take 1 more pound off. Yay!!!

cylentka
12th of October 2007 (Fri), 12:51
yay Becky!

I have spent the last half hour on the fitday site, lol. Its awesome! I really like the way you can plug in custom food. I just fished my Lean Cuisine dinner box out of the trash to cut out the nutritional facts panel so I could plug it all in. I love this kind of stuff. Next thing you know I'll be buying one of those Katina computerized scales that compute body mass and all sorts of things, heheh.

Maxed Out
12th of October 2007 (Fri), 16:14
UPDATE:


http://maxypad19.smugmug.com/photos/207287410-L.jpg

Total Loss Of: ~142.7 lbs
~5.94 lbs Lost Per Person

-Pleiades-
15th of October 2007 (Mon), 04:19
4.5 pounds lost for me this week, but....

....I don't understand how. I've been eating healthily for over 3 months now and going to the gym. My weight loss has been steady losing around .3 to 1 kilo each week. For my exercise I play squash once a week, I do a step class and a pilates class at least once a week. 3 times a week I do weights and aerobic training and then I do 3 days (plus a day of squash) of just aerobic training - treadmill, bike etc.

Here's what I don't understand.... This past week I've only made it to the gym once to do an aerobic session plus a game of squash, and that's all I've done this week for a couple of different reasons. I haven't changed my eating habits, I've still comsumed the same amount of calories each day, which is what I always do, gym or no gym.

But how could I have lost 2 kilos this past week?? I surely couldn't have lost THAT much muscle mass in a week by not going to the gym. And theoretically even though I'm still consuming the same amount of calories each day and not burning as much because I haven't been to the gym as often. Shouldn't I be losing less weight not more?

Sorry about the long rant, I'm just a bit confuzzled ???

cylentka
15th of October 2007 (Mon), 07:43
4.5 pounds lost for me this week, but....

....I don't understand how. I've been eating healthily for over 3 months now and going to the gym. My weight loss has been steady losing around .3 to 1 kilo each week. For my exercise I play squash once a week, I do a step class and a pilates class at least once a week. 3 times a week I do weights and aerobic training and then I do 3 days (plus a day of squash) of just aerobic training - treadmill, bike etc.

Here's what I don't understand.... This past week I've only made it to the gym once to do an aerobic session plus a game of squash, and that's all I've done this week for a couple of different reasons. I haven't changed my eating habits, I've still comsumed the same amount of calories each day, which is what I always do, gym or no gym.

But how could I have lost 2 kilos this past week?? I surely couldn't have lost THAT much muscle mass in a week by not going to the gym. And theoretically even though I'm still consuming the same amount of calories each day and not burning as much because I haven't been to the gym as often. Shouldn't I be losing less weight not more?

Sorry about the long rant, I'm just a bit confuzzled ???

I was sorta wondering the same thing when I lost two pounds after skipping a gym workout. I was expecting to have gained weight, but I lost more than I usually do. I usually only lose half a pound a week, so two pounds was a big difference. I don't know if its a coincidence, or if I just managed to keep my calories lower out of guilt/fear for not getting to work out. Sometimes I don't think we burn as many calories at the gym as we like to think we do, but that is just a guess. Also, I'm wondering if it has something to do with how much water is in the body. If we exercise maybe we hold more water in our muscles, or just drink more water to make up for sweating. Again, just a guess.

On another note, I have been using fitday to track my calories/nutrients and I discovered its extremely easy to get enough fat in the diet, but a real challenge to get enough protein. I found some fish steaks in foil at the store. Looks a bit like cat food, lol. The albacore steak has 150 calories but a whopping 35g of protein! Ok, I did not like it and had to put mustard on it to make it edible, but it was worth it to get 35g of protein that easy! Next, I'm trying the tuna steaks (slightly different than the albacore). Not as much protein, only about 25g, but still a lot compared to nearly everything else I eat. And hopefully more tasty. If anyone knows a good way to prepare fish steaks without adding tons of calories, please share! I usually only like fish if it is battered and deep fried. The bare steaks (even the marinated ones) taste like raw fish to me. blech.

dilorenzo1954
15th of October 2007 (Mon), 08:57
Good morning group!

MAX ALERT!!
Nice going Wanda & Kinnon:D:D
Well... I'm able to somewhat walk again, with some discomfort, but manageable. We had a group outing to Brookfield Zoo in the Chicagoland area and I was able to withstand the day with my gear strapped to my back for close to 6 hours. I will resume mi 4 mile walks starting tomorrow morning and if I have to cut it short I will. I've taking up the slack with some weightlifting, crunches, and aerobic stretching so with that, plus eating right again I was able to net a loss of 2.6 lbs!!:D:D

In2Photos
15th of October 2007 (Mon), 09:02
4.5 pounds lost for me this week, but....

....I don't understand how. I've been eating healthily for over 3 months now and going to the gym. My weight loss has been steady losing around .3 to 1 kilo each week. For my exercise I play squash once a week, I do a step class and a pilates class at least once a week. 3 times a week I do weights and aerobic training and then I do 3 days (plus a day of squash) of just aerobic training - treadmill, bike etc.

Here's what I don't understand.... This past week I've only made it to the gym once to do an aerobic session plus a game of squash, and that's all I've done this week for a couple of different reasons. I haven't changed my eating habits, I've still comsumed the same amount of calories each day, which is what I always do, gym or no gym.

But how could I have lost 2 kilos this past week?? I surely couldn't have lost THAT much muscle mass in a week by not going to the gym. And theoretically even though I'm still consuming the same amount of calories each day and not burning as much because I haven't been to the gym as often. Shouldn't I be losing less weight not more?

Sorry about the long rant, I'm just a bit confuzzled ???
Sometimes the body needs to rest. Every now and then it is ok to just take a day off. Your body falls into a routine and it is good to shake that up. You can do this by taking a day off, trying a new workout, or just changing your diet. That being said you should still keep working out. But once or month or so you can take a day off.

I was sorta wondering the same thing when I lost two pounds after skipping a gym workout. I was expecting to have gained weight, but I lost more than I usually do. I usually only lose half a pound a week, so two pounds was a big difference. I don't know if its a coincidence, or if I just managed to keep my calories lower out of guilt/fear for not getting to work out. Sometimes I don't think we burn as many calories at the gym as we like to think we do, but that is just a guess. Also, I'm wondering if it has something to do with how much water is in the body. If we exercise maybe we hold more water in our muscles, or just drink more water to make up for sweating. Again, just a guess.

On another note, I have been using fitday to track my calories/nutrients and I discovered its extremely easy to get enough fat in the diet, but a real challenge to get enough protein. I found some fish steaks in foil at the store. Looks a bit like cat food, lol. The albacore steak has 150 calories but a whopping 35g of protein! Ok, I did not like it and had to put mustard on it to make it edible, but it was worth it to get 35g of protein that easy! Next, I'm trying the tuna steaks (slightly different than the albacore). Not as much protein, only about 25g, but still a lot compared to nearly everything else I eat. And hopefully more tasty. If anyone knows a good way to prepare fish steaks without adding tons of calories, please share! I usually only like fish if it is battered and deep fried. The bare steaks (even the marinated ones) taste like raw fish to me. blech.
Wanda glad you like Fitday.

As for your fish. Mustard is a perfectly good choice to add flavor to your food. It has very little calories. If you continue to eat fish you might try using FF italian dressing or even soemthing like old bay. Spices are fine to use. You can also eat canned Tuna. It has similar amounts of protein, very little fat too. For other protein rich foods consider chicken, turkey, or egg whites.

cfpackerfan
15th of October 2007 (Mon), 09:03
WOW you guys! Way to go!

I've been eating BADLY the last few days on vacation, but I have walked more in the last 4 days, than in the whole last month combined, lol.

I will weigh tomorrow though. ;)

cylentka
15th of October 2007 (Mon), 10:01
Good job, Ed, glad you are able to walk some now.

Cat, good job on the walking. Good luck with your weigh-in. Vacations do tend to lead to bad eating, but that is part of the reason they are vacations, lol! I think we all eat badly on vacations and family get-togethers.

Ronald S. Jr.
15th of October 2007 (Mon), 10:39
The albacore steak has 150 calories but a whopping 35g of protein! Ok, I did not like it and had to put mustard on it to make it edible, but it was worth it to get 35g of protein that easy! Next, I'm trying the tuna steaks (slightly different than the albacore). Not as much protein, only about 25g, but still a lot compared to nearly everything else I eat. And hopefully more tasty. If anyone knows a good way to prepare fish steaks without adding tons of calories, please share! I usually only like fish if it is battered and deep fried. The bare steaks (even the marinated ones) taste like raw fish to me. blech.



Just be forewarned....tuna, salmon, and some other fish has dangerous levels of mercury in it, so be sure to eat it sparingly. This mercury build up can result in renal distress and failure.

Better choices would be to eat fish (read the label- should be wild catch to be healthy) like flounder, cod, haddock, orange roughy, and some others.

A favorite meal of my family is to take cod fillets and lightly coat with pure olive oil (the fruity taste of the extra virgin oil doesn't go well with the fish) and coat with italian seasoning, salt, garlic, and pepper. Go light on the garlic, but it adds a very nice touch. Then broil uncovered at 500º for 6-8 minutes per side, based on thickness of the fish. Take it out,rub a stick of butter on the top side (just run the short end along the top slowly) and then sprinkle with sea salt to taste. Very delicious.

As another tasty side dish to go along with it, having a similar taste, take some spinach greens (leaves) but try to make sure they're fresh not bagged. Not hard to find. Put a little of the same olive oil in a small frying pan, and turn it on med-hi. heat minced or granulated garlic in the oil, and add italian seasoning. Once it's hot, throw a gigantic handful (probably two) of the spinach leaves in, and just keep stirring until they're shriveled and cooked. Only takes a couple minutes. You have to use more than you'd eat, as it shrinks significantly.


As to salt...be sure to switch to sea salt. No more expensive really, and readily available in any store. MUCH healthier.

The Outlaw
15th of October 2007 (Mon), 10:54
+5 this week. too much eating/ not enough exercise

Ronald S. Jr.
15th of October 2007 (Mon), 11:30
wow, for a week, that's impressive! :lol:

I tend to keep "normal" even if I don't exercise because I go up and down 3 flights of stairs dozens of times a day.

cylentka
15th of October 2007 (Mon), 17:01
Just be forewarned....tuna, salmon, and some other fish has dangerous levels of mercury in it, so be sure to eat it sparingly. This mercury build up can result in renal distress and failure.

Better choices would be to eat fish (read the label- should be wild catch to be healthy) like flounder, cod, haddock, orange roughy, and some others.

A favorite meal of my family is to take cod fillets and lightly coat with pure olive oil (the fruity taste of the extra virgin oil doesn't go well with the fish) and coat with italian seasoning, salt, garlic, and pepper. Go light on the garlic, but it adds a very nice touch. Then broil uncovered at 500º for 6-8 minutes per side, based on thickness of the fish. Take it out,rub a stick of butter on the top side (just run the short end along the top slowly) and then sprinkle with sea salt to taste. Very delicious.

As another tasty side dish to go along with it, having a similar taste, take some spinach greens (leaves) but try to make sure they're fresh not bagged. Not hard to find. Put a little of the same olive oil in a small frying pan, and turn it on med-hi. heat minced or granulated garlic in the oil, and add italian seasoning. Once it's hot, throw a gigantic handful (probably two) of the spinach leaves in, and just keep stirring until they're shriveled and cooked. Only takes a couple minutes. You have to use more than you'd eat, as it shrinks significantly.


As to salt...be sure to switch to sea salt. No more expensive really, and readily available in any store. MUCH healthier.

I thought the mercury was only dangerous for children and pregnant women. At any rate I don't think I'll eat enough fish to worry about it. I was hoping to get in a couple of servings a week, at most. We might have cod around here, but I don't think we have any of the other fish you mentioned. I will try some of the different spices, or maybe just chop up the cooked fillet and put it in a salad, lol. The spinach recipe sounds interesting, I have always liked spinach. Can't say that I have ever heard of sea salt, though. I'll have to look into it and see why it is healthier.

+5 this week. too much eating/ not enough exercise

Wow, didn't even know it was possible to put on 5 pounds in one week! That is like 17,500 extra calories! :shock:

The Outlaw
15th of October 2007 (Mon), 17:25
Wow, didn't even know it was possible to put on 5 pounds in one week! That is like 17,500 extra calories! :shock:

yea that cant be right, i think i forgot to post my weigh in the week before. i was +2.5 so prolly +2.5 this week makes more sense.. seeing that did actaully make me go get some exercise tho today lol went for 2mile walk then went to shoot hoops bymyself for an hour. shooting hoops doesnt sound like much but when you miss 90% of the shots and have to chase your own rebound you get alot of short sprints in

Ronald S. Jr.
15th of October 2007 (Mon), 17:31
I thought the mercury was only dangerous for children and pregnant women. At any rate I don't think I'll eat enough fish to worry about it. I was hoping to get in a couple of servings a week, at most.



Can't say that I have ever heard of sea salt, though. I'll have to look into it and see why it is healthier. :shock:


1. Try not to get more than that, if it's one of those types. Remember to get wild caught fish, too, if you can. Tastes better, and it's better for you.

2. Should be right by table salt on the shelf in the store. You probably never saw it because you were never looking for it. Table salt contains iodine, whereas sea salt doesn't. You shouldn't get too much of this, and if you like salt, all the more reason to switch. A lot of the foods you eat have more than enough iodine in them...no reason to try and get more. Table salt also contains additives, often times just an anti-caking additive, but still not good. If it's not real, you shouldn't eat it.

-Pleiades-
15th of October 2007 (Mon), 19:48
I was sorta wondering the same thing when I lost two pounds after skipping a gym workout. I was expecting to have gained weight, but I lost more than I usually do. I usually only lose half a pound a week, so two pounds was a big difference. I don't know if its a coincidence, or if I just managed to keep my calories lower out of guilt/fear for not getting to work out. Sometimes I don't think we burn as many calories at the gym as we like to think we do, but that is just a guess. Also, I'm wondering if it has something to do with how much water is in the body. If we exercise maybe we hold more water in our muscles, or just drink more water to make up for sweating. Again, just a guess.

On another note, I have been using fitday to track my calories/nutrients and I discovered its extremely easy to get enough fat in the diet, but a real challenge to get enough protein. I found some fish steaks in foil at the store. Looks a bit like cat food, lol. The albacore steak has 150 calories but a whopping 35g of protein! Ok, I did not like it and had to put mustard on it to make it edible, but it was worth it to get 35g of protein that easy! Next, I'm trying the tuna steaks (slightly different than the albacore). Not as much protein, only about 25g, but still a lot compared to nearly everything else I eat. And hopefully more tasty. If anyone knows a good way to prepare fish steaks without adding tons of calories, please share! I usually only like fish if it is battered and deep fried. The bare steaks (even the marinated ones) taste like raw fish to me. blech.

Thanks for the reply. Even if we're not burning as much as we think we are, we're still burning calories. Hmmm....not sure about the water. When I'm at work I usually drink two litres and then when I go to the gym I generally drink another litre. So maybe it does get stored? Who knows!

Maybe try eggs and other veggies, legumes etc for a little extra protein? I too need to up my fish intake and so does my husband (his HDL levels [good cholesterol] were too low, so he needs to eat more fatty foods, half his luck!) and I don't really like fish all that much so I've been trying to find ways of preparing it so it tastes half decent. One I've found is to get some fillets of just some kind of white fleshed fish, for me here it's bream and deep sea perch, wrap it up in foil with some olive oil (contains good cholesterol) and herbs and bake it in the oven till it's cooked.

Or what I bought from the supermarket (haven't tried it yet) is premade fish fillets. They've already been marinated and all you have to do is put them in the oven. They look good, lets hope they taste good!

Sometimes the body needs to rest. Every now and then it is ok to just take a day off. Your body falls into a routine and it is good to shake that up. You can do this by taking a day off, trying a new workout, or just changing your diet. That being said you should still keep working out. But once or month or so you can take a day off.


I usually take 2 days off a week from proper exercise. Here's my week.... I have mondays and tuesdays off and on mondays my husband and I have an hours game of squash (finally beat him last week :D ) tuesday I don't go to the gym but we usually do something active like go for a walk in a national park or the beach or that kind of thing, he fishes and I take photos. On wednesdays after work I do an aerobic and a weights workout at the gym, thursdays I do a step class and that's it, friday's I do pilates and a weights workout, saturdays I don't really do anything and sundays before work I do a cardio and weights workout. When I do my cardio and weights workout, I usually mix it up a bit by using different machines, weights and techniques so my body doesn't get too used to it all.

And I *think* my body has time to rest and recover, or maybe it doesn't? I'm never sore after a work out, and I never feel totally exhausted. I don't starve myself, I never go hungry. Maye I don't mix my diet up enough, I have the same thing for breakfast and lunch each day, but I always vary my dinners.

Ahhh well.....it's still working for me, just not as well sometimes :rolleyes: at least I'm losing and not putting on. Twas just a little confused about this past week.

kja
16th of October 2007 (Tue), 01:04
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If anyone knows a good way to prepare fish steaks without adding tons of calories, please share! .

Fish is great. I only eat what we catch ourselves so have learned quite a few ways to make it.

We almost always grill it - either in the webber, on the bbq itself or under the griller in the stove. A spray of good olive oil, some foil and you're good to go for all of these:

cajun spices if you like hot. Make sure to get the one that doesn't have salt as the main ingredient.

sweet chili -usually found in the asian foods section. I dip my fish in it.

lime and pepper AND lemon and pepper - each has a unique flavor

Add a salad with yummy crisp greens and other crunchy veggies (use some sweet chili for the dressing too) and it's good to go.

Making a fish pocket in foil is also a great way to cook it. Make a bed of foil and then add whatever you want as a bed for the fish to lay on - I use spinach, coloured peppers (capsicums), onions, sweet potato slices, citrus fruit, celery. zucchini + your chosen spices (I like a bit of garlic and then whatever else)...singly or in combinations. Put the fish on the bed. Add a bit of olive oil and spices as you like. Finish off with a few slices of citrus or more capsicum slivers on top. Wrap him up tight with the foil. Bake him in a dish in the oven, throw him in the weber or pop him on the bbq - they all work.

I also like a combo of sweet corn, capsicum, celery and zucchini steamed and then fresh ripe tomatos added at the last minute as a side. Works really well with fish, for me.

cylentka
16th of October 2007 (Tue), 08:28
yea that cant be right, i think i forgot to post my weigh in the week before. i was +2.5 so prolly +2.5 this week makes more sense.. seeing that did actaully make me go get some exercise tho today lol went for 2mile walk then went to shoot hoops bymyself for an hour. shooting hoops doesnt sound like much but when you miss 90% of the shots and have to chase your own rebound you get alot of short sprints in

Sounds like you are on the right track again. :D

1. Try not to get more than that, if it's one of those types. Remember to get wild caught fish, too, if you can. Tastes better, and it's better for you.

2. Should be right by table salt on the shelf in the store. You probably never saw it because you were never looking for it. Table salt contains iodine, whereas sea salt doesn't. You shouldn't get too much of this, and if you like salt, all the more reason to switch. A lot of the foods you eat have more than enough iodine in them...no reason to try and get more. Table salt also contains additives, often times just an anti-caking additive, but still not good. If it's not real, you shouldn't eat it.

Not sure about the wild-caught fish. Fishing isn't a big industry in the midwest. :rolleyes: I'll have to start reading labels and see if I can tell where our fish is from. Or maybe go to an asian market where they have more varieties of fish.

I don't buy salt very often and I do just grab the one that I've always used. I have had it drilled into me that I really need that iodine they put in the salt, so I'm a bit surprised that you're saying I don't really need it, lol.


Maybe try eggs and other veggies, legumes etc for a little extra protein? I too need to up my fish intake and so does my husband (his HDL levels [good cholesterol] were too low, so he needs to eat more fatty foods, half his luck!) and I don't really like fish all that much so I've been trying to find ways of preparing it so it tastes half decent. One I've found is to get some fillets of just some kind of white fleshed fish, for me here it's bream and deep sea perch, wrap it up in foil with some olive oil (contains good cholesterol) and herbs and bake it in the oven till it's cooked.

Or what I bought from the supermarket (haven't tried it yet) is premade fish fillets. They've already been marinated and all you have to do is put them in the oven. They look good, lets hope they taste good!

I do eat eggs quite a bit (probably too often), I just love them. And I've been eating whole raw almonds as one of my daily snacks. I'm still a slacker when it comes to veggies but I try to get one serving a day. :confused: And I have peanut butter on whole wheat toast for breakfast. With the fish added to my diet, my protein levels are gradually creeping up.

But now I've noticed that I don't get very much iron in my diet!! So I'm thinking of getting a box of Total cereal and crunching up one serving and putting it in a cup or two of low-fat yogurt for breakfast. I think that would give me my daily requirements of iron and 10 vitamins (from the Total), plus protein and calcium from the yogurt.

I also found a recipe for "cereal snack meringues" that might be good. It takes three egg whites, 2/3 cups of sugar and 4 cups of Total cereal. Beat the whites, add sugar, fold in cereal, then bake at 325 for about 15 minutes. (drop from teaspoon onto lightly greased cookie sheet) Add half cup of chocolate chips to the mix if you like chocolate and can tolerate the calories.

Thanks for the fish ideas. I will keep experimenting. I have some of the pre-made fillets that have been marinated and what I've tried so far hasn't been appetizing. But then I don't like fish all that much. I'm going to try different varieties and see if I find some I like. The convenience is just what I need. Maybe if I pan-fry it in olive oil PAM it will taste better than simply microwaved. blech.



Fish is great. I only eat what we catch ourselves so have learned quite a few ways to make it.

We almost always grill it - either in the webber, on the bbq itself or under the griller in the stove. A spray of good olive oil, some foil and you're good to go for all of these:

cajun spices if you like hot. Make sure to get the one that doesn't have salt as the main ingredient.

sweet chili -usually found in the asian foods section. I dip my fish in it.

lime and pepper AND lemon and pepper - each has a unique flavor

Add a salad with yummy crisp greens and other crunchy veggies (use some sweet chili for the dressing too) and it's good to go.

Making a fish pocket in foil is also a great way to cook it. Make a bed of foil and then add whatever you want as a bed for the fish to lay on - I use spinach, coloured peppers (capsicums), onions, sweet potato slices, citrus fruit, celery. zucchini + your chosen spices (I like a bit of garlic and then whatever else)...singly or in combinations. Put the fish on the bed. Add a bit of olive oil and spices as you like. Finish off with a few slices of citrus or more capsicum slivers on top. Wrap him up tight with the foil. Bake him in a dish in the oven, throw him in the weber or pop him on the bbq - they all work.

I also like a combo of sweet corn, capsicum, celery and zucchini steamed and then fresh ripe tomatos added at the last minute as a side. Works really well with fish, for me.

Great ideas, thanks! You'd think they'd breed a fish that doesn't taste fishy, lol. I just do not like that strong fish taste. (or smell)

cylentka
16th of October 2007 (Tue), 09:50
Ooooohhhhh, ooooooohhhh, oooooohhhhhh!

Now I've just gotta try this Potato-Crusted Salmon Recipe (http://www.bettycrocker.com/Recipes/Recipe.aspx?recipeId=34416)! It even looks good. ;)

PeaPicker
16th of October 2007 (Tue), 09:51
Wow, didn't even know it was possible to put on 5 pounds in one week! That is like 17,500 extra calories!
Wanda
I think I could do it with vanilla ice cream and chocolate syrup.
But let's don't go there. :)

Hey Max...down 2 more lbs.
Almost at my goal of 180. :D
Everyone keep on keepin' on.

Ronald S. Jr.
16th of October 2007 (Tue), 10:27
I have had it drilled into me that I really need that iodine they put in the salt, so I'm a bit surprised that you're saying I don't really need it, lol.


Yeah, you need extra iodine....and milk's gonna strengthen your bones. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

cylentka
16th of October 2007 (Tue), 11:29
Yeah, you need extra iodine....and milk's gonna strengthen your bones. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You're gonna be a funny looking old man with a goiter and a humpback some day. ;):lol:

misspix
16th of October 2007 (Tue), 11:46
Hullo all :D I have been seriously slacking in the last couple of weeks, I am laying all the blame on my annual trip to budgeting h3ll :evil:
I woke up this morning with a better outlook, however and am ready to go back at it!

Some wonderful updates since I last visited, congrats to all :D

MAX: I am at a standstill-the last two weeks would you just N/A for me?

In2Photos
16th of October 2007 (Tue), 14:20
Yeah, you need extra iodine....and milk's gonna strengthen your bones. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
At least I won't grow breasts from drinking soy milk. ;)

Ronald S. Jr.
16th of October 2007 (Tue), 15:19
At least I won't grow breasts from drinking soy milk. ;)

Pft...I had them long before soy milk. :lol:

Ronald S. Jr.
16th of October 2007 (Tue), 15:20
You're gonna be a funny looking old man with a goiter and a humpback some day. ;):lol:

You'll be the disfigured one from all that fake food and milk you eat. :-)

guinea
16th of October 2007 (Tue), 18:09
Hey folks. I've just had my weekly weigh in and I've lost another 5lbs.

I not have broken through the 16 stone barrier and am still on target for being a healthy weight by Christmas.

Well done all the losers. I hope we can inspire the struglers to shed a few more pounds in the coming weeks.

cfpackerfan
16th of October 2007 (Tue), 18:09
You're gonna be a funny looking old man with a goiter and a humpback some day. ;):lol:

You'll be the disfigured one from all that fake food and milk you eat. :-)

And just where is the playground police when you need them? :p

*off to buy a really loud whistle*

BearLeeAlive
16th of October 2007 (Tue), 19:42
And just where is the playground police when you need them? :p

*off to buy a really loud whistle*
:lol: :lol: :lol:
What, the fish is not appropriate here. ;)

kja
16th of October 2007 (Tue), 19:59
Thanks for the fish ideas. I will keep experimenting... Maybe if I pan-fry it in olive oil PAM it will taste better than simply microwaved. blech.
OMG - do NOT nuke the fishies! No wonder it tastes terrible LOL That made my stomach turn over, really ;0

Great ideas, thanks! You'd think they'd breed a fish that doesn't taste fishy, lol. I just do not like that strong fish taste. (or smell)

I can't stand fishy fish. Salmon is ok, but just barely. I abhor tuna. Go for the white fleshed, big flake fish types for a sweeter, non-fishy flavour. You can get fresh water fish like walleye or pike - they are both really good and light flavoured.

I'm doing so-so. Just keeping on instead of progressing. Ah well...

Ronald S. Jr.
16th of October 2007 (Tue), 20:10
That's another thing...quit using the microwave, guys. It's gonna hurt you.

The microwaves in microwave ovens are obviously a form of radiation, but because of the extremely short wavelength and power of this radiation, it mutates the molecules of the food, often creating carcinogens and leaking nutrients from your food.

Here's a link to find out more. http://www.lifestylelaboratory.com/articles/dangers-microwave-ovens.html

the_incubus
16th of October 2007 (Tue), 20:45
I absolutley HATE fishy fish. And for a while (like a year) i would only eat tuna salad. But I know that fish is one of the healthiest and most important things in you diet so im slowly eating more and more. Like Kja said, most white fish are good. I eat yellow snapper, flounder, i personally like tuna and i love mahi-mahi. Oh and halibut is good as well.

cfpackerfan
16th of October 2007 (Tue), 21:56
:lol: :lol: :lol:
What, the fish is not appropriate here. ;)Apparently not. :lol:

kja
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 02:24
Ronald - my lord, guy, you have a ton of tidbits to share ;) Interesting food for thought, no pun intended!

Mgdh
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 05:50
Too much gone on to comment on here ;) just Well done to all the losers, and keep on keeping on folks!

Maxy Update I weghed on Monday - just been too busy to check in. I'm another 1lb down :D

cylentka
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 07:36
At least I won't grow breasts from drinking soy milk. ;)

If cows milk gave people breasts I'd be a 44D instead of ... um, smaller.:rolleyes:

I live and grew up in dairy farm country and often drank milk that was not homogenized or pasteurized. Just fresh in the jug straight from the cow. We'd let the cream rise to the top and spoon it off. Then we drank the milk, fat and all. We're a skinny family and most of my relatives have lived to be 90 or so, with a few centenarians in the bunch. (except the idiots that kill themselves off early with cancer sticks).

I love milk. :D

cylentka
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 07:50
Hey folks. I've just had my weekly weigh in and I've lost another 5lbs.

Wow, I'm amazed!

OMG - do NOT nuke the fishies! No wonder it tastes terrible LOL That made my stomach turn over, really ;0

I can't stand fishy fish. Salmon is ok, but just barely. I abhor tuna. Go for the white fleshed, big flake fish types for a sweeter, non-fishy flavour. You can get fresh water fish like walleye or pike - they are both really good and light flavoured.

I'm doing so-so. Just keeping on instead of progressing. Ah well...

Geez, the package said to just pop the fishies in the microwave for 1.5 minutes, lol. Ok, I'll try pan fried next time. Thanks for the tips on the different fish, I'll try to look around. I usually avoid the seafood counter at the store because its always crowded and I just hate to wait in line to buy stuff. And I always feel so sorry for the poor little lobsters in the lobster tank. :(

Hang in there and you'll progress sooner or later.

That's another thing...quit using the microwave, guys. It's gonna hurt you.


Ya know, if I had to stop using the microwave I'd be back to a diet of oreo cookies and milk, with some toast and jelly thrown in every now and then. ;)


Maxy Update I weghed on Monday - just been too busy to check in. I'm another 1lb down :D

YAY!

and for my Maxy Update: Down two more pounds! :D

And I celebrated with chocolate cake, lol. I think I'm no longer used to that much sugar and chocolate because it actually made me a bit dizzy and my head just felt really weird for about half an hour. The best thing about weight loss is that I actually RAN a little bit at the Y yesterday. I started out walking a mile back in June, then gradually added some jogging. I still can't jog a full mile, but when I started jogging yesterday, I upped it a bit and I was actually running a few times around the track. It felt so good. I used to just love to run and I could go so fast, but I haven't been able to even think about running the past few years. Someday I want to be able to run an entire mile again. :)

BearLeeAlive
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 07:54
Until a few years ago, I too drank hordes of milk, now very little. Funny though, as I often craved a glass, now I still like it but prefer water. This change came about with my big weight loss a couple years back.

Wanda, I to used to drink lots of what we called 'Cow Milk', the stuff straight from the cow after separating the cream. I loved drinking it warm. We often took shots straight from the udders too, it was like a warm rich tasting treat. :)
Dear mudder, give de other udder to me brudder. ;)

BearLeeAlive
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 07:57
BTW Max, I am finally down another pound. I still have 4 more to go, but may shoot a bit further after that. These darn 'love handles' were the first fat to clad my body, and the last to go. :)

cylentka
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 07:57
Ronald - my lord, guy, you have a ton of tidbits to share ;) Interesting food for thought, no pun intended!

I'm surprised he uses a computer, lol. And I'm certain he doesn't own or use one of those nasty microwave-emitting cell phones. :shock:

BearLeeAlive
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 08:01
Fish, I love fish. Salmon is probably my favourite, but most grilled fish I like. I do like many have suggested here, rub in olive oil and a few herbs and on the grill for a short time. I would rather my fish be towards the undercooked side then overdone and drier. I just love a good tuna steak, and not one of those prepackaged ones, it must be fresh and only cooked to barely past rare, oh so yummy. :)

We used to eat the breaded quick cook fish sticks at least once a week. Haven't had any lately until the kids complained. We tried some and I really didn't like them anymore. I truly believe that once you start eating right for a while, you will crave these good foods, and not the bads ones.

cylentka
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 08:11
Until a few years ago, I too drank hordes of milk, now very little. Funny though, as I often craved a glass, now I still like it but prefer water. This change came about with my big weight loss a couple years back.

Wanda, I to used to drink lots of what we called 'Cow Milk', the stuff straight from the cow after separating the cream. I loved drinking it warm. We often took shots straight from the udders too, it was like a warm rich tasting treat. :)
Dear mudder, give de other udder to me brudder. ;)

I don't drink as much milk as I used to, and I drink 2% milk (I just can't stomach skim milk), but only because if I get to consume 120 calories I'd rather have meat. I would drink a gallon a day if calories didn't matter.

I rarely got the milk warm as the cows were usually all milked by machine, but it was delicious when I got it.

BTW Max, I am finally down another pound. I still have 4 more to go, but may shoot a bit further after that. These darn 'love handles' were the first fat to clad my body, and the last to go. :)

YAY Jim! :D I am also finding my middle weight to just be hanging on. I could probably go down a pant size if my tummy and love handles would get with the program. :evil:

Fish, I love fish. Salmon is probably my favourite, but most grilled fish I like. I do like many have suggested here, rub in olive oil and a few herbs and on the grill for a short time. I would rather my fish be towards the undercooked side then overdone and drier. I just love a good tuna steak, and not one of those prepackaged ones, it must be fresh and only cooked to barely past rare, oh so yummy. :)

We used to eat the breaded quick cook fish sticks at least once a week. Haven't had any lately until the kids complained. We tried some and I really didn't like them anymore. I truly believe that once you start eating right for a while, you will crave these good foods, and not the bads ones.

I cannot stand the fish sticks any more. My kid used to eat them all the time and I just got sick of even looking at them. Same with chicken nuggets, lol. I have never grilled fish. Nor have I ever bought olive oil (other than olive oil PAM). I don't even own a grill, other than a small George. Might be something to think about next spring. ;)

BearLeeAlive
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 08:17
Might be something to think about next spring. ;)
I grill on the BBQ all winter. It is on a veranda just outside the kitchen door though.

You can also use the broiling element in an oven quite effectively. While we do eat fish baked some times, I do prefer the texture from grilling, a tad crispy on the outside, and soft and moist on the inside. :)

We also have a fantastic sushi restaurant only a couple blocks from home we go to once in a while.

In2Photos
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 08:20
Ronald - my lord, guy, you have a ton of tidbits to share ;) Interesting food for thought, no pun intended!

I'm surprised he uses a computer, lol. And I'm certain he doesn't own or use one of those nasty microwave-emitting cell phones. :shock:
Tell me about it. His state of paranoia is quite alarming. Ronald, I can't believe you drive a car, use electricity, ans spend time on a computer. Certainly those things are not the healthy alternative. Maybe you should move to Amish country. ;)

Ronald S. Jr.
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 08:27
Some things are unfortunate necessities. I do own a cell phone, but only for business, and I never put it to my ear.

State of paranoia? Nah...just a few very unhealthy things that I stay away from. Being healthy doesn't mean you're paranoid.

Maybe I am paranoid....early Death is following me..I know it!!! :shock:

cylentka
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 09:45
Maybe I am paranoid....early Death is following me..I know it!!! :shock:

Look on the bright side... less need for hefty retirement savings so you can spend more of your current income on camera gear. ;):lol:

cylentka
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 09:49
I grill on the BBQ all winter. It is on a veranda just outside the kitchen door though.

You can also use the broiling element in an oven quite effectively. While we do eat fish baked some times, I do prefer the texture from grilling, a tad crispy on the outside, and soft and moist on the inside. :)

We also have a fantastic sushi restaurant only a couple blocks from home we go to once in a while.

I think I'm a bit too wimpy to BBQ in the winter, lol. :oops: I have tried to broil fish in the oven (many moons ago) and it always sets the fire alarm off. When I lived in an apartment I would just shut off the breaker to that part of the apartment and yank out the battery, but my current house has too many fire alarms for that to be an option now. :( The fish doesn't burn, but the juice on the pan burns just enough to set off the alarm. The kitchen doesn't look smokey but there is a smell, and apparently enough foul stuff in the air to activate the alarms. :confused:

I only saw sushi once, at a restaurant in Tokyo, and I refused to touch it. It just looked so nasty, lol. But that was in 1993, I'm braver now. a little... :p

cfpackerfan
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 09:55
I'm up a pound. Dang vacation. :(

cylentka
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 10:11
Hey, one pound is not bad. And its probably muscle, right??

cfpackerfan
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 10:13
Hey, one pound is not bad. And its probably muscle, right?? ;) :cool:

cylentka
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 16:02
Just got back from the store. I found a new (to me) cereal called Hi-Protein Crunch, from Back to Nature. It has 15g of protein in half a cup. Also has 170 calories and 14g of sugar, so I'm thinking I'll eat it as a midmorning snack and not a meal, lol. I also bought more fish in the flavor pouches. I ate the Light Tuna today and it was fairly good fried. So I'm trying teriyaki salmon and a few others. I picked up a box of Whole Grain Total, and Dannon light and fit strawberry yogurt for breakfast. The Total has 100% of calcium as well as iron and other stuff. It crunches down good, so I can put it in half a cup of yogurt for breakfast and be all set, I think.

Of course now my fear is that my body will be in such shock from my eating right (or more so) that I'll drop dead in two weeks. :confused: :)

dilorenzo1954
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 16:14
It crunches down good, so I can put it in half a cup of yogurt for breakfast and be all set, I think. :confused: :)

I'm not crazy then... I don't like milk in any way other that milk shakes. So instead of putting milk in my cereal, I either add apple juice or yogurt to it and fresh fruit and I'm good to go. My wife thinks I'm nuts, although that might be for other things:p

cfpackerfan
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 16:17
I don't like milk in any way other that milk shakes. And technically, there is hardly any milk in a milk shake. :lol: ;)

dilorenzo1954
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 16:35
And technically, there is hardly any milk in a milk shake. :lol: ;)
Maybe that's why I like 'em...:p

cylentka
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 16:59
I'm not crazy then... I don't like milk in any way other that milk shakes. So instead of putting milk in my cereal, I either add apple juice or yogurt to it and fresh fruit and I'm good to go. My wife thinks I'm nuts, although that might be for other things:p

I only like milk on Cheerios. :rolleyes: Its just not right on any other cereal. Oh, except the occasional Frosted Mini Wheats at midnight. :p

I like my milk real cold, and entire glass gulped straight down. Breathe and repeat until satiated. ;)

kja
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 22:14
Wanda - not sure how the pan fry thing will work, but try it. I don't know about fish in packets, I haven't seen them and don't buy fish, so I'm no help there.

If you have an oven it should have a broiler thing, right? We call it a grill here; it's the flip down door that has a tray in it and flames/heat from the top? That's almost as fast as the microwave and tastes oh so much better!

Max - 9lbs to go...

Ronald S. Jr.
17th of October 2007 (Wed), 22:28
Wanda - not sure how the pan fry thing will work, but try it. I don't know about fish in packets, I haven't seen them and don't buy fish, so I'm no help there.

If you have an oven it should have a broiler thing, right? We call it a grill here; it's the flip down door that has a tray in it and flames/heat from the top? That's almost as fast as the microwave and tastes oh so much better!

Max - 9lbs to go...



LOL...where you from? My way I mentioned earlier is the best way I've ever found to eat fish. All ovens that I've seen have a broil function. Been a long time since I had a regular one, though...should be two dials. Turn one to "Broil" and the other to 500º. Olive oil is the key. Olive or walnut. They stand the high heat best.

cylentka
18th of October 2007 (Thu), 07:14
Wanda - not sure how the pan fry thing will work, but try it. I don't know about fish in packets, I haven't seen them and don't buy fish, so I'm no help there.

If you have an oven it should have a broiler thing, right? We call it a grill here; it's the flip down door that has a tray in it and flames/heat from the top? That's almost as fast as the microwave and tastes oh so much better!

Max - 9lbs to go...

The pan-fried fish was much better. Good enough for me. I don't really expect food to taste wonderfully good, I just don't want it to taste bad, lol. I'll try broiling someday when I feel like dealing with the oven and the smoke alarms. :rolleyes:

LOL...where you from? My way I mentioned earlier is the best way I've ever found to eat fish. All ovens that I've seen have a broil function. Been a long time since I had a regular one, though...should be two dials. Turn one to "Broil" and the other to 500º. Olive oil is the key. Olive or walnut. They stand the high heat best.

I looked at olive oil in the store and it had like 120 calories in a tablespoon! :shock: So I'm sticking with olive oil PAM for now. Zero everything, heheh. (and my oven just has one dial, turn it all the way up and its on broil)

In2Photos
18th of October 2007 (Thu), 12:12
Just got back from the store. I found a new (to me) cereal called Hi-Protein Crunch, from Back to Nature. It has 15g of protein in half a cup. Also has 170 calories and 14g of sugar, so I'm thinking I'll eat it as a midmorning snack and not a meal, lol. I also bought more fish in the flavor pouches. I ate the Light Tuna today and it was fairly good fried. So I'm trying teriyaki salmon and a few others. I picked up a box of Whole Grain Total, and Dannon light and fit strawberry yogurt for breakfast. The Total has 100% of calcium as well as iron and other stuff. It crunches down good, so I can put it in half a cup of yogurt for breakfast and be all set, I think.

Of course now my fear is that my body will be in such shock from my eating right (or more so) that I'll drop dead in two weeks. :confused: :)
WOW! 14g of sugar in one serving. That is worse than some of the so-called "sugar cereals". That is half of the amount of sugar in a 12 oz. soft drink. Take a look at Kashi cereals. They are high in protein but lower in sugar than the one you mention.

I looked at olive oil in the store and it had like 120 calories in a tablespoon! :shock: So I'm sticking with olive oil PAM for now. Zero everything, heheh. (and my oven just has one dial, turn it all the way up and its on broil)
All oils are high in calories because they are pure fat. But olive oil is a good fat and you shouldn't need a tablespoon to lightly coat the fish. The Olive Oil spray you use does actually have calories. They can say that it doesn't because any food that has less than 5 calories per serving can claim 0. But if you spray that can longer than the one second it starts to add up. I use the spray when I just need a light coating on the pan, but if I am cooking something like chicken or fish I will add some olive oil to the pan. Remember that you are not eating all the oil. Most stays in the pan (unless something in the pan can absorb it like bread crumbs or flour) or splatters all over the stove. :lol:

Ronald S. Jr.
18th of October 2007 (Thu), 13:12
When I cook for other people, I'll use some type of non-stick spray if I really need to, but when I spray that, I can't help feeling like that "spray" smell seems awfully dangerous smelling. Don't you think? Everytime I smell it, I think "ugh..that can't be good".

Along the same lines as smelling meat cooking. If you ever get the chance, try it. Cook organic meat, and then regular. I do it all the time because I cook for my residents here. The organic smells wonderful, and after you get used to that smell, and you put on the supermarket meat, it actually made me wonder if it was still good! :-D

Ronald S. Jr.
18th of October 2007 (Thu), 13:16
All oils are high in calories because they are pure fat. But olive oil is a good fat and you shouldn't need a tablespoon to lightly coat the fish.

Absolutely...probably the single healthiest thing you can cook with, as far as oils and sprays, etc. go.

Most stays in the pan (unless something in the pan can absorb it like bread crumbs or flour) or splatters all over the stove. :lol:


:lol: :lol: I can't even turn the knobs on my stove after I've cooked with olive oil. I can't get a grip on them! :lol:

Maxed Out
18th of October 2007 (Thu), 14:55
I grill on the BBQ all winter. It is on a veranda just outside the kitchen door though.

You can also use the broiling element in an oven quite effectively. While we do eat fish baked some times, I do prefer the texture from grilling, a tad crispy on the outside, and soft and moist on the inside. :)

We also have a fantastic sushi restaurant only a couple blocks from home we go to once in a while.


mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........SUSHI ! *drools everywhere*

You guys are hilarious.....I guess debate club really payed off for some


chart comming!

guinea
18th of October 2007 (Thu), 14:56
I don't like to fry with olive oil. I like it in salad and with focaccia, but I think it tastes bad when heated.

The mother in law makes roast potatoes with olive oil and they are nowhere near as good as when cooked in normal vegetable oil or, even better still, goose fat.

Maxed Out
18th of October 2007 (Thu), 15:05
UPDATE:


http://maxypad19.smugmug.com/photos/209886113-X3.jpg

Total Loss Of: ~154.3 lbs!
~6.42 lbs Lost Per Person!

cylentka
19th of October 2007 (Fri), 07:33
WOW! 14g of sugar in one serving. That is worse than some of the so-called "sugar cereals". That is half of the amount of sugar in a 12 oz. soft drink. Take a look at Kashi cereals. They are high in protein but lower in sugar than the one you mention.

All oils are high in calories because they are pure fat. But olive oil is a good fat and you shouldn't need a tablespoon to lightly coat the fish. The Olive Oil spray you use does actually have calories. They can say that it doesn't because any food that has less than 5 calories per serving can claim 0. But if you spray that can longer than the one second it starts to add up. I use the spray when I just need a light coating on the pan, but if I am cooking something like chicken or fish I will add some olive oil to the pan. Remember that you are not eating all the oil. Most stays in the pan (unless something in the pan can absorb it like bread crumbs or flour) or splatters all over the stove. :lol:

I just looked online at the Kashi cereal and the one that looked the most interesting, GOLEAN Crunch, has 12g of sugar, 9g of protein per serving (half cup). It does sound like a good cereal brand, tho, I'll try some soon. I've been eating the Hi-Protein crunch as a snack and I haven't noticed a sugar buzz or anything. Its a tasty snack. :) The 14g of sugar is supposedly naturally-occurring, if that makes a difference. The problem with eating cereal as a snack is that now half my calories are carbs. But not sure that is a problem, lol.

I will reconsider the olive oil, lol. I can see how it would not take all that much to cook a slab of fish. I just freaked when I saw the calorie content on the label, heheh. :rolleyes:

kja
19th of October 2007 (Fri), 17:21
The pan-fried fish was much better. Good enough for me. I don't really expect food to taste wonderfully good,
Glad the pan-fried worked a bit better for you!

I couldn't eat if food didn't taste great! Why do you have such low expectations for food? For me, part of eating isn't just for fuel, it's something that can (and should imho) engage several of the senses at once. It can (and should imho) be fun, at least sometimes, too! Food is not the enemy...sitting on our butts doing office work or vegging in front of some electronic device is.

I looked at olive oil in the store and it had like 120 calories in a tablespoon! :shock: So I'm sticking with olive oil PAM for now. Zero everything, heheh. (and my oven just has one dial, turn it all the way up and its on broil)
As others have said, olive oil is a fat. But a tablespoon is an enormous amount of olive oil for most things and you likely wouldn't actually consume that much even if you used that much to cook with. And remember that your body actually needs fats and calories to work properly - just need to try to choose the best ones most of the time ;)

Best gadget I ever bought was a pump spray. Put the olive oil in, give whatever you're cooking a spritz. Measure the spritz a couple of times to see how much you're actually using...it's an interesting exercise. I also use the pump spray to make garlic bread - that fine mist seems to give just the right amount for the bread to go golden and slightly crisp...mmmm, it's only 6am and now I'm hungry for garlic bread! lol

If I grill/broil anything I don't use oil at all. If I roast something (the world's easiest meal - stick everything in a big dish, give it a spritz, use your pastry brush to make sure the olive oil got everywhere and stick it in the oven for 1-2 hours!) I'll usually use about three spritzes tops for the whole thing.

I hope everyone's weekend is fabulous - I'm flat out with a big photo job that came up at the last minute so probably won't be able to check in much.

-Pleiades-
19th of October 2007 (Fri), 17:25
Best gadget I ever bought was a pump spray. Put the olive oil in, give whatever you're cooking a spritz. Measure the spritz a couple of times to see how much you're actually using...it's an interesting exercise. I also use the pump spray to make garlic bread - that fine mist seems to give just the right amount for the bread to go golden and slightly crisp...mmmm, it's only 6am and now I'm hungry for garlic bread! lol



What a great idea! Have to give that one a go, now I just need to find a spray bottle that hasn't had cleaner in it.....

ooooh and garlic bread....yum.....wondering if it's a good breakfast substitute :rolleyes:

BearLeeAlive
19th of October 2007 (Fri), 17:29
Yup, food has to taste good. That said, sometimes you have to give it a few tries if it is something new to you, usually you will adapt to liking it. (But remember, this is coming from someone who eats everything ;)).

I use one of those pump sprayers too, they work great.

I do rub most grilled foods lightly with olive oil if it is real lean, it gives it an nice colour, adds to the flavour, and allows the herbs and spices to cling better.

Have fun at your shoot Kristin, I am headed with my wife to the mountains for a wee luxury get away. We will do some hiking and canoeing during the day. As mentioned on the chat thread, it is a Annibirthtines present for all the ones I missed. ;)

BearLeeAlive
19th of October 2007 (Fri), 17:31
ooooh and garlic bread....yum.....wondering if it's a good breakfast substitute :rolleyes:
Unfortunately bread of any kind is not a good choice, but a nice fresh slab of grilled garlic bread is so very yummy. :D

Maureen Souza
19th of October 2007 (Fri), 18:38
Just checking in for the update..........and it isn't good. up one pound:evil::evil:

Life has been chaotic....but I'll get back on track.........someday;)

kja
20th of October 2007 (Sat), 01:37
Have some time before I head out again today and I'm bored so surfing...otherwise I'll have a nap and be all groggy!

What a great idea! Have to give that one a go, now I just need to find a spray bottle that hasn't had cleaner in it.....
ooooh and garlic bread....yum.....wondering if it's a good breakfast substitute :rolleyes:
I bought ours at the supermarket. We have a couple now - one plain, one with fresh chili and olive oil and one with garlic and olive oil. If you can, get different colours - makes life easier ;)


Have fun at your shoot Kristin, I am headed with my wife to the mountains for a wee luxury get away. We will do some hiking and canoeing during the day. As mentioned on the chat thread, it is a Annibirthtines present for all the ones I missed. ;)

I hope to have some fun.

Have a fabulous get-away!!

Unfortunately bread of any kind is not a good choice...
I don't believe this for one tiny second ;) Maybe white bread has no redeeming value beyond comfort food, but there are lots of choices out there that have lots of things a body needs. Bread isn't evil ;)

Of course, I don't think anything really is a no-no as long as one is realistic and doesn't over-do it! Even birthday cake with buttercream icing which I have to say I've only got three more weeks until I can have :D

cylentka
20th of October 2007 (Sat), 15:39
I couldn't eat if food didn't taste great! Why do you have such low expectations for food? For me, part of eating isn't just for fuel, it's something that can (and should imho) engage several of the senses at once. It can (and should imho) be fun, at least sometimes, too! Food is not the enemy...sitting on our butts doing office work or vegging in front of some electronic device is.

Best gadget I ever bought was a pump spray. Put the olive oil in, give whatever you're cooking a spritz. Measure the spritz a couple of times to see how much you're actually using...it's an interesting exercise. I also use the pump spray to make garlic bread - that fine mist seems to give just the right amount for the bread to go golden and slightly crisp...mmmm, it's only 6am and now I'm hungry for garlic bread! lol

I think my low expectations for food come from three things (1) upbringing, (2) laziness, (3) attitude.

First, my grandmother lived with us when we were growing up and she apparently had trouble digesting fat and spices (she was around 90), so my mom cooked everything very bland. Hot dogs were boiled twice (two different pots of water), hamburgers were also boiled, we ate a lot of plain mashed potatoes. Vegetables did not have butter or salt on them, etc. Food was never appetizing and I simply gulped the required 3 bites of whever we had, downed a couple glasses of milk, and went back out to play. Even after my grandmother passed on my mom cooked the same way most of the time. Habit, I guess.

Second, I just never bothered to learn how to prepare food so that it tastes good and I'll just do whatever is easiest.

Third, I figure all food does is turn into crap anyway, so why spend a lot of time worrying about what it tastes like? If it doesn't make you gag, and fills you up, it must be the right thing to eat. :p

The plus side of all of this is that once I get a plan and some self-control, dieting is fairly easy for me. I don't have any comfort foods, as food was never comforting, lol. And I don't over-eat for any psychological reasons like some people seem to. My weight has gradually creeped up due to lack of activity for the most part, since I've been tied to a desk job and a small child at home. Add a few bad eating habits to that, and 6 years later Wanda has gained 30 pounds. :shock:

The pump spray sounds like a good idea, I'll look for one!

Just checking in for the update..........and it isn't good. up one pound

Life has been chaotic....but I'll get back on track.........someday

One pound is not bad. Hang in there.

I don't believe this for one tiny second ;) Maybe white bread has no redeeming value beyond comfort food, but there are lots of choices out there that have lots of things a body needs. Bread isn't evil ;)

Of course, I don't think anything really is a no-no as long as one is realistic and doesn't over-do it! Even birthday cake with buttercream icing which I have to say I've only got three more weeks until I can have

I tend to agree with this. Even as I'm constantly adjusting my diet to eat healthier (primarily so I can eat less and not feel hungry), I let myself eat ice cream a few times a week(one scoop, no goodies on top), and junk food snacks every day (100 calorie bags, because its so hard to stop, lol). I just got done mowing the yard and I ate a slice of pumpkin pound cake. :D But I just ate ONE slice! And I had sausage with my breakfast today, mostly because I love the way it smells. But I'm going to have lean fish and vegetables for dinner and then stop eating. :cool:

Pass me a slice of that birthday cake in three weeks! :D

The Outlaw
22nd of October 2007 (Mon), 11:36
my normal weight fluxuation is rediculis..... acording to the figures, after being up 5 last week this week im down 7 and i've done very little:o fat people must naturally have more fluxuation than normal people.

good news is i weighed in at 303.7 which is the best weigh in i've had since my partner got pregnant lol i gained more weight than her during the pregnancy :lol:

BearLeeAlive
22nd of October 2007 (Mon), 12:19
I don't believe this for one tiny second ;) Maybe white bread has no redeeming value beyond comfort food, but there are lots of choices out there that have lots of things a body needs. Bread isn't evil ;)
I never implied bread is evil, I sure hope not, I eat it fairly often. ;) I am as guilty as anyone for not eating the absolute best foods all the time too. :D

I did imply that it is not usually the best choice, just as many high starch foods aren't if you are trying to lose weight, it play lots of havoc on your insulin levels.

I just love all these high starch foods, bread, pasta, potatoes, white rice and the like. :D I have always eaten 'healthy' bread. I usually have open face sandwiches to lessen the amount of bread intake. Unless I will be doing a high energy activity the next day, I keep my portions of these foods at supper to a minimum.

A friend who lost 150 lbs in1 1/2 years was told to eat no, or at least very little high starch food, and he swears this was the key. He did fantastic, taking no supplements nor having anything but diet and exercise a a means for weight loss. He was skiing with us last winter, his first time on the slopes in almost 10 years. Could hardly keep up with the guy.

-Pleiades-
22nd of October 2007 (Mon), 23:08
Hello all :D

Well no change for me this past week. After such a huge loss week before I'm not bothered, I have a feeling this next week is going to be a good one....

dilorenzo1954
22nd of October 2007 (Mon), 23:21
Well.. It was bound to happen. I'm still slowed down by my foot blisters and wasn't able to walk as I wanted to this past week. I did get some time on the treadmill while my son was at hockey practice, but it's not enough and it's all catching up to me. All that said ,I only gained 1.5 lbs. I'm not too upset as I'm actually ahead of schedule and it's just a small bump on the road...
So MAX if you read this... Add 1.5lbs to my weight for the week.

NBEast
22nd of October 2007 (Mon), 23:36
Well.. It was bound to happen. I'm still slowed down by my foot blisters and wasn't able to walk as I wanted to this past week. I did get some time on the treadmill while my son was at hockey practice, but it's not enough and it's all catching up to me. All that said ,I only gained 1.5 lbs. I'm not too upset as I'm actually ahead of schedule and it's just a small bump on the road...
So MAX if you read this... Add 1.5lbs to my weight for the week.
If it's on the heel, Scotch Tape. Stops the friction and lacks the mass of the expensive over-the-counter solutions.

If it's already blistered, put cotton under it. If during activity, just take a minute and apply. Obviously, it works best to be applied before the activity. Just tape a large strip or two across the rub area.

Maybe late for this one, but for the next blister activity, carry a bit and take a minute to apply when needed. Does wonders for keeping your routine up.

dilorenzo1954
23rd of October 2007 (Tue), 09:26
If it's on the heel, Scotch Tape. Stops the friction and lacks the mass of the expensive over-the-counter solutions.

If it's already blistered, put cotton under it. If during activity, just take a minute and apply. Obviously, it works best to be applied before the activity. Just tape a large strip or two across the rub area.

Maybe late for this one, but for the next blister activity, carry a bit and take a minute to apply when needed. Does wonders for keeping your routine up.
Thanks, I did that, and actually my heels are better. I now have a blisters on my toe on the left foot and it's really uncomfortable to even stand on this foot let alone walk. I might have to lance it.

thomascanty
23rd of October 2007 (Tue), 09:31
When I was hiking a lot, I always developed blisters pretty easily. I found that duct tape applied directly over the blister helped a lot. Even better than moleskin. Now, I always keep a roll of it in my backpack.

cfpackerfan
23rd of October 2007 (Tue), 16:25
3 pounds DOWN! !! *Doin the happy dance*

dilorenzo1954
23rd of October 2007 (Tue), 16:28
Way to go Cat!!:D:D:D

By the way, I'm watching your "happy dance" on You Tube...:p

BearLeeAlive
23rd of October 2007 (Tue), 16:45
Yo Cat, I thought you was lookin' mighty fine. ;)
Good job. :)

cfpackerfan
23rd of October 2007 (Tue), 20:35
Way to go Cat!!:D:D:D

By the way, I'm watching your "happy dance" on You Tube...:p

THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_eQiM-rTKk)one? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

BearLeeAlive
23rd of October 2007 (Tue), 20:44
THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_eQiM-rTKk)one? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm real glad you are happy Cat, but I so did not need to see this. :shock: :confused: ;) :lol:

dilorenzo1954
23rd of October 2007 (Tue), 21:21
THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_eQiM-rTKk)one? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Poor kitties... No, I was watching the one with the treadmills... it's pure genius!:D:D:D

cfpackerfan
23rd of October 2007 (Tue), 21:25
Poor kitties... No, I was watching the one with the treadmills... it's pure genius!:D:D:D I love that one. :lol:

Mgdh
24th of October 2007 (Wed), 04:48
Oops, just realised, I had not checked in yet this week.

Well donen, all the losers. Glad to see everyone is positive, whatever the last week gave - it's the end result that counds :D

Maxy Update I'm down a further 1lb this week too. :D:D:D

cylentka
24th of October 2007 (Wed), 08:13
3 pounds DOWN! !! *Doin the happy dance*

WOO HOO! Awesome! :D

THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_eQiM-rTKk)one?

LOL

I was watching the one with the treadmills... it's pure genius!

I agree

I'm down a further 1lb this week too.

YAY! :D

I have a MAXY UPDATE too, I'm down another pound this week.:)

I was hoping for another one of those miraculous 2-pound losses, but I guess that is unrealistic considering my eating habits. ;):p And I was a bit bad again last night and ate a taco and tortilla chips and some sort of dip stuff that I don't even want to think about the calorie/fat content. :confused: Plus a very small piece of cake. :rolleyes: And yes, I will be doing penance the rest of the week. :confused:

edit: I just calculated my BMI online and I'm happy to report that it is 24.1 which puts me in the healthy range. Barely healthy, but its a start! I'd like to get that number down to about 20, I think.

kja
24th of October 2007 (Wed), 18:19
Maxy - 8 more to go for me, which means I lost a little this week.

Only have three weeks left til my original "goal date" so don't think I'll make it but I'm a heck of a lot closer to where I wanted to be than I was when I started, so that's a good thing!

Way to go, All You Losers! Another week of walking the right (more or less) path - go us!!

I'm pretty happy today coz I just ordered a bunch of new camera gear - can't open it until 14th November but that's OK...kinda like a mini-pre-Christmas :)

Maxed Out
24th of October 2007 (Wed), 22:05
got everybody in!!!;)

great yob....i mean job:)

cylentka
25th of October 2007 (Thu), 12:21
Ok, I've got question about iron.

I have these spiffy new multi-vitamins with iron. But I'm eating more foods with iron these days too. So I'm getting about 25mg of iron a day and the RDA is 18mg for me. What is the toxic level for iron? Some websites say to not get more than the RDA, others say its ok to get up to 45mg a day, and others are in between. Whut sez youse?

dilorenzo1954
25th of October 2007 (Thu), 13:14
I say stop when you start affecting the polarity of compasses...:p Sorry I couldn't help it.....

misspix
25th of October 2007 (Thu), 21:33
ROFL, Ed! :lol:

Ronald S. Jr.
25th of October 2007 (Thu), 23:59
Ok, I've got question about iron.

I have these spiffy new multi-vitamins with iron. But I'm eating more foods with iron these days too. So I'm getting about 25mg of iron a day and the RDA is 18mg for me. What is the toxic level for iron? Some websites say to not get more than the RDA, others say its ok to get up to 45mg a day, and others are in between. Whut sez youse?

Most people get plenty of iron from the foods they eat, especially if you eat healthy and don't microwave your food. ;-)

The best vitamins out there, hands down, are Thorne Research Basic Nutrients. I prefer the III, as it has no copper or iron. About $30 a month to take, and they make you feel like a million bucks. All natural ingredients/capsules, too.

cfpackerfan
26th of October 2007 (Fri), 00:02
especially if you eat healthy and don't microwave your food

:lol: Yeah Wanda.

The Outlaw
26th of October 2007 (Fri), 00:02
i see alot more walking in my near future :d finaly getting the 75-300 i been wanting but instead of the basic cheapo one thanks to a member of the boards im getting the usm model. so i should be out walking even more now to play with the lens. man i gotta get back in the 200's. getting so close only like 3 more pounds till im under by 2lb so my weight flux wont send me back over 300

cylentka
26th of October 2007 (Fri), 07:52
I say stop when you start affecting the polarity of compasses...:p Sorry I couldn't help it.....

:lol::lol:

Most people get plenty of iron from the foods they eat, especially if you eat healthy and don't microwave your food. ;-)

The best vitamins out there, hands down, are Thorne Research Basic Nutrients. I prefer the III, as it has no copper or iron. About $30 a month to take, and they make you feel like a million bucks. All natural ingredients/capsules, too.

Never heard of Thorne, I'll look them up. It makes no sense that all-natural costs more than whatever the other kind are. :rolleyes: I always assumed all vitamins in a vitamin pill were fake (made in a lab). If Thorne vitamins are natural, why did they have to research them? :confused:

Maybe men can get all the iron they need from a healthy diet, but I don't see any way to get 18mg of iron a day from just eating. The exception is to eat Total every day, which has 18mg of iron in a serving, which is essentially the same as taking a vitamin. (I discovered that I'm allergic to yogurt so I can't have my Total and yogurt breakfast like I planned.)

I'm still far from convinced that microwaving food does any damage to the nutrients. All the fat survives intact, so why wouldn't the nutrients. ;) I agree that some food does not taste as good when microwaved, but every food has its optimal way to be prepared. For instance I think potatoes should only be baked or fried. Boiling them ruins them and mashing them is just gross.:p