Model - Cropping suggestions please?

[clos]

http://ompi.onemodelplace.com/OMP_Images/Photographer/52286/52286_p_551DA0E1-2B3D-897A-25F815772339245A.jpg

-Clos

[Aylwin]

Not cropping suggestion but... to me, a landscape shot might be better.

[berto]

is that a ready stance? is that a porno pose?

explain?


berto

[stopbath]

is that a ready stance? is that a porno pose?

explain?


berto

That's fine art. Don't you think the photo is fine art too? :lol:

As for the question of crop... You cropped off part of the reflection in the water, which is sad.

Not a very flattering photo of the young lady. :cry:

[clos]

Alywin,

I don't agree landscape would produce too much negative space, I think.

Berto,

Thanks for the unconstructive criticism. This is the pose my client wanted and that is what she gets, smart ass.

Stopbath,

Not sure what you mean about that sarcasm either but I'll give you the benifit of the doubt. Yeah I wasn't sure if I should include her complete refelection. It put the horizon in the middle and I wasn't going for symmetry, but that might have worked, don't know.

Again, if anyone can suggest a CROP I would greatly appreciate it. I wasn't really looking for other critiques (need greater depth of field, even out the horizon, could be a bit sharper, stance not symmetrical enough or too symmetrical). It's not a keeper but the client loves it and I am just wrestling with the crop.

Thank you in advance I know this forum won't let me down.

-Clos

[PhotosGuy]

I think a landscape bkg would just compete with her. I'd crop it so more of her reflection showed.

[Scottes]

You got a crop suggestion which you seem to have ignored. Further, you resort to name-calling and assuming attitudes from others. You can't take criticism when you ask for it - and putting it in Critique is asking for it. Next time try being a little more helpful with what you want and don't want.

We're going to let you down with that attitude. So do what you want.

[ChrisN]

There are a few things that I would change in this image, so please bear with me (and take it any way you want with as many grains of salt as necessary).

1) I don't like the geometry of the picture. Her right arm looks horribly bent because of the reflection, I might have had her come up out of the water to just to the other side of the elbow to enhance the line and provide a more graceful transition to the water (or even had her straighten the arm a bit)

2) I think the crop is too tight, her right leg is slightly trimmed off and her left is not, I don't think a landscape is the answer but having slightly more surrounding's would differentiate the context of the location.

3) Something about the leg position is troubling me. I have no idea how I would have corrected it as it is accentuating the width of the back to the narrowness of her head and shoulders. Maybe have her pull her knees in a little and raise her feet out of the water a bit to be a bit more playful?

I like her face, her expression and I think the idea was there, but definately explore a few other options and run with it.

Consider yourself lucky to have such a lovely model, I cannot convince any of my female friends to pose for me, my son is my only willing participant.

[clos]

You got a crop suggestion which you seem to have ignored. Further, you resort to name-calling and assuming attitudes from others. You can't take criticism when you ask for it - and putting it in Critique is asking for it. Next time try being a little more helpful with what you want and don't want.

We're going to let you down with that attitude. So do what you want.

Scottes,

Please dop not misunderstand much is lost in lack of writing skills. The only problem I have is with Berto's comment, he did not input anything constructive, just a stab (I could be wrong but that's that way I took it). My displeasure was intended for him not this forum, I apologize if it was taken any other way.

Not sure what you mean by a cropping suggestion I missed. Aylwin suggested landscape, Stopbath suggested more foreground, Berto didn't suggest anything. Am I missing something?

I am assuming attitudes based on the writings/postings just as you are assuming mine. Let's not get off on the wrong foot. I am not sure where you are coming from?

-Clos

[clos]

Thanks Chris.

-Carlos

[Scottes]

I am not sure where you are coming from?

If you're going to post in Critique you need to have a thicker skin, and not resort to name calling and such. You aren't always going to hear what you want to hear in Critique. You asking for *opinions* and many opinions just plain suck. So you have to throw out the junk and listen to the rest.


Now I propose we move on...


Personally, I'd agree with Stopbath about leaving more reflection if you have it. However, this would leave most of the subject in the top third, which might look a little odd. How about cropping right at the line where the reflection of her cleavage starts? Try both I'd say.

I would also crop it a bit wider - it's cropped too tight in my opinion.

[Aylwin]

I agree with what you're saying about the negative space in landscape. But I consider her reflection in the water to be negative space too. Perhaps if the water was darker or the reflection clearer... :roll:

Also, I thought the legs could use a bit of space on each side. But I suppose that's the original frame so there's no more space to recover?

Anyway, since the shot is already tight, how about making the crop even tighter? And how about changing the aspect ratio? For example, here's 4:5 crop.

http://www.cal-family.org/download/crop45.jpg