My photos are up on Getty Images news - what next?

[Tobers]

I'm not a pro by a long shot, but I'm after some advice.

I've been covering the foot & mouth outbreak near to me in Guildford, UK, over the last week with my trusty 30D. As I live nearby and know the area, it's been quite easy to hang about with the main press pack (even getting right into the thick of things without needing a press pass). I've also been the only photographer present at a couple of impromptu news conferences outside the source of the outbreak in Pirbright so have some "exclusives".

As I had some newsworthy pics, and a 3G phone & laptop with me, I submitted about 40 pics to Scoopt (www.scoopt.com), an online "citizen journalism" agency owned by Getty, just to see what would happen.

Virtually all my pics were approved by Scoopt, and 37 of them put up on Getty Images in the main news section covering the foot & mouth story as it unfolded (go to http://editorial.gettyimages.com/Editorial/News.aspx and search for "Andrew Tobin" to see them). I even had one "news event" section all to myself on the Getty site. Most of the pics were up on Getty within an hour of me taking them.

How do I find out if any of the pics sold anywhere? I'm really interested (not for money reasons) to find out what has happened to them. Scoopt said that they get a report at the end of the month from Getty - is this right? Do I get informed proactively by Getty or not?

Cheers!

Tobers

[Box Brownie]

Hi Neighbour ;)

A real case of right time, right place. This is the first time I have heard of scoopt and they way they market contributors images.

Best of luck and do update with any details as they come available if you are able to share them. :D

[Col_M]

When i went to scoopt one of your images cycled on the front page. It looks like they are marketing your images well and i hope you get a good few sales :) I'm jealous ;)

[Tobers]

Thanks. Yep - they've got me on their home page (dont recall getting paid for that one :rolleyes:).

The story is dying a death at the moment but there are still TV crews outside the Pirbright labs. I stopped by just now and the majority are asleep! Assuming it is all contained, the only thing left is how it got out in the first place.

Anyway, back on topic...any more info on how this works would be v.helpful.

Cheers!

Tobers

[blackshadow]

Thanks. Yep - they've got me on their home page (dont recall getting paid for that one :rolleyes:).

I have a feeling they would call this marketing your image so you wouldn't get paid for it unless they make a sale.

Congrats on getting your foot in the door with them.

[DocFrankenstein]

info on how this works

Well... if my overall understanding is right, "citizen" reportage means you might not get paid when they use your images.

Did you sign a contract?

[Tobers]

To get membership of Scoopt you need to agree to Ts and Cs. Photographers get 40% of the sale price as I understand it. Could do with being a bigger percentage of course, but I'm not overly bothered at the moment.

[blackshadow]

I think the thing with agencies is that it takes all the pressure of marketing off you and if they can make a sale that you couldn't make it beats the hell out of 40% of nothing.

[primoz]

Richard It's true with normal agencies, but in this case I would be a bit more careful. First, normally split is 50:50 not 40:60. Second, agencies I deal with don't have something like:
When you send a photo to Scoopt, you give us a licence to market that photo on your behalf. You also agree that for the first twelve months only, nobody else -- including you -- will publish that photo in any shape or form.
It might not mean much for someone, but for me it's pretty normal to get at least same amount, if not more, from other clients then I get from primary agency for that shoot. So in this case, you lose option for extra money. And as Doc said, on the end you might not even get paid for this. So people should be a bit careful with this "citizen journalism". I'm not saying this particular agency is bad, but just be careful.
As for original question goes. Normally agencies send reports once a month or even once every quarter, and you get paid after that... week, month, even half a year after that. It all depends on agency. But in your case, I wouldn't expect report from Getty, since officially you don't have anything to do with them.

[Tobers]

Thanks for that - makes sense. I did think their terms were a bit restrictive but I'm not overly bothered with such a small number of pics.

I'll watch how things proceed with these Scoopt guys and keep you posted.

[JurekB]

I think the point with Scoopt is that their primary target is the general public and their cameraphones so from that perspective what they are offering is fairly reasonable. I can't see any full time news togs giving it a second look, they'd probably even consider it bad for the industry.

Lots of media organisations are now offering similar things, from tabloid papers to BBC and Sky News. It would be interesting to find out what they pay considering there is no middleman. I suspect it's not much.

From Tobers point of view even if you make no money it's still something to put on a CV that you have had images taken up by Getty and that can be no bad thing.

[PhotosGuy]

It might not mean much for someone, but for me it's pretty normal to get at least same amount, if not more, from other clients then I get from primary agency for that shoot. So in this case, you lose option for extra money. For PJ work, keep shooting & moving around to get similar shots that you can sell elsewhere. You don't have to put everything you shot in Scoopt , do you?

[Tobers]

Top tip - I did this and kept 50% for myself :D

[AussieCat]

i approached getty

austtralia - re: the entertainment section/office

they liked some of my images but said i need to get a further feel of what the

photojournos take .... and get back in 6-12 mnths


that was 9 mntsh back
now im gonna reapproach them as they said


any tipe on how to best reapproach them with my best 10 pics etc?

i do social events photography in syndey and some red carpets ...

Well... if my overall understanding is right, "citizen" reportage means you might not get paid when they use your images.

Did you sign a contract?