Nikon D200 discontinued

[computerguru3190]

Hey,

I heard the Nikon D200 was being discontinued today. There are no announcements of a successor so if the 40D comes out soon, there should be no competitor from Nikon in the works.

Chris

[lostdoggy]

And we care because....!!!

[Tee Why]

It's still on their site.
http://nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=2&productNr=25235

and still for sale at B&H as well.

[ScottE]

And we care because....!!!

We care because if the 40D should go full frame the Nikon D300 would be a viable alternative.

[cosworth]

...if the 40D should go full frame.....

This statement is amazing.

[wilvoeka]

The D200 was actually discontinued about a month ago.

[lostdoggy]

We care because if the 40D should go full frame the Nikon D300 would be a viable alternative.

40D go Full Frame, Hmmmm..... when will that be, Hmmm...If I was a betting man I'll place my bet on never!!!

[laimis.s]

i highly doubt 40d will be full frame. dont get your hopes up. (not even about weathersealing IMO)

[radiohead]

The D200 was actually discontinued about a month ago.

That's the first I heard. Do you have any evidence for this because I'm sure the Nikon forums would like to know.

[wilvoeka]

The only evidence I have of it is that all the local camera shops here can not get any more, and they have been told not to expect any more.

[radiohead]

So, not actual evidence then.

[ScottE]

40D go Full Frame, Hmmmm..... when will that be, Hmmm...If I was a betting man I'll place my bet on never!!!

That is close to the probability of me switching to Nikon.

Scott

[Sean286]

The D200 was "softly" discontinued awhile ago... the replacement is slated to come out November.... BUT! The 40d and the D200 (or d300 or whatever the new one is called) are NOT the same level of camera! The 40d is slated as pro-sumer... the D200 is the start of the pro line. The new one is rumored in having the 12.3mp D2X chipset to offer a lower priced competitor to the 5D (yet not full frame). Am I going to get the new "d300"? Bet-yur-pants I will!!!!

All said and done.... Nikon vs. Canon.... they both take HORRIBLE pictures unless the person using them has the eye! .... and we all really want a Hassy H3D anyways!!!;)

[-MasterChief-]

proof is in the pudding:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/413121-REG/Nikon_9993_D200_Digital_Camera_with.html

[radiohead]

That's the 18-70 kit - now superseded by the 18-135 (over here at least), 17-55 and 18-200 kits.

No question there's a new model on the way at some point, but at the moment it's rumour only.

[-MasterChief-]

oops, my bad! :p

[radiohead]

:D

Don't be daft. I guess I'm just wearied by reading countless rumours at DPR.

[HughScot]

The only evidence I have of it is that all the local camera shops here can not get any more, and they have been told not to expect any more.

I work for Ritz Camera and we can still get them.

[Punisher77]

I work for Ritz Camera and we can still get them.

Can you get me a 5dmk2? :)

[jwil]

Nikon has a press event coming up around the same time as Canon. I'd bet a D200 successor is in the works to compete with the 40D launch.

[Keith R]

the D200 is the start of the pro line.

No it ain't - it's prosumer same as the 30D.

Some folk try to big it up into being a baby D2X but it's still just a prosumer with some "added value" (or not) bells and whistles.

[davidwegs]

Not that I particularly care Keith, (I shoot Canon) but I did buy and use the d200's for a while and they are well above (in practical use) the 30D in pretty much all but the high ISO noise performance.

The bodies are a large step ahead of the 30D IMO.

[radiohead]

Re: prosumer tag. If you can make money with it it's a pro camera. Anything more than that is pure marketing fluff.

[Tom W]

Not that I particularly care Keith, (I shoot Canon) but I did buy and use the d200's for a while and they are well above (in practical use) the 30D in pretty much all but the high ISO noise performance.

The bodies are a large step ahead of the 30D IMO.

I think that one of the biggest reasons that there was some strong outcry when the 30D came out was that it wasn't the proverbial "D200 killer" camera. Nothing wrong with the 30D in my experience, but it wasn't notched up high enough to give the D200 a run for it's money. Granted, it wasn't priced as high either.

Canon could have put more bells and whistles on the 30D, even while keeping the (still excellent) 8.2 mpx sensor.

[Headcase650]

Nikon also has a wider line up. D40, D40x for entry, D80 advanced amateur, D200 entry pro and the D2hs and D2xs top of the line. I don't have any problems calling the D200 entry pro, go handle one and see for yourself.

[00silvergt]

I agree with "we care because..." Most of us have invested heavily on our Canon equipment, and buying a Noink right now, at least for me is out of the question, unless it will massage my back and...

[Tom W]

Nikon also has a wider line up. D40, D40x for entry, D80 advanced amateur, D200 entry pro and the D2hs and D2xs top of the line. I don't have any problems calling the D200 entry pro, go handle one and see for yourself.

Vs Canon's XT & XTi which compete with the 2 D40's. The 30D sits, I believe, somewhere between the D80 and D200. The 5D sits in a unique spot, that doesn't have a real parallel at Nikon. The 1D2/1D3 and 1Ds2 sit around the two D2 bodies. I think that Canon and Nikon both shoot for the "holes" in each other's lineup. In fact, I recall some heated discussion a couple of years ago about Canon's gap between the then 20D and the 1DII - which Nikon seemed to fill with the D200.

[theflyingkiwi]

And we care because....!!!

we care because Nikon is the 2nd biggest camera company in the world, after canon.

If canon start losing the next model that nikon brings out canon will try and beat.

[cdifoto]

I hear Canon has a 1D Mark III in the works.

[lostdoggy]

we care because Nikon is the 2nd biggest camera company in the world, after canon.

If canon start losing the next model that nikon brings out canon will try and beat.

When Nikon Dieds, Sony or Fuji will buy them up. But that's Not going to happen because Nikon is own by the one of the largest Bank in Japan. But if Leica Dieds Sony will buy them up just for the Name.

Besides the DSLR war have just begun and Like all war only the strong will survive. Just take a look at the SLR of the 70's and you'll see that by the end of the 70's only a handful survived.

I believe history will repeat itself. If Nikon don't begin developing Sensors and support chipsets they aren't going to survive this time around. The most likely possibility is Nikon will ally them self with Kodak and IBM for their future sensor supplier and most likely that is why the D200 has been discontinue because Sony is no longer providing Nikon with the latest Sensor technology saving it for their own upcoming flagship BODY and Possibly a new lens mount to accommodate a new line of Zeiss Built Pro Lenses.

[cdifoto]

When Nikon Dieds, Sony or Fuji will buy them up. But that's Not going to happen because Nikon is own by the one of the largest Bank in Japan.

I don't know if it's true that a bank owns Nikon, but I find it interesting that you think a bank, of all owners, would hang onto a money pit. :lol:

[S2000]

Nikon is a publicly traded company in Japan. It's not owned by "one" but many companies and individuals.

Here is Nikon's Corporate model:

http://www.nikon.co.jp/main/eng/portfolio/ir/business_info/img/jigyo_top_img_i.gif

Here is a general breakdown of Nikon's stock:

http://www.nikon.co.jp/main/eng/portfolio/ir/stock_info/img/zu_i.gif

Name of Shareholder Number of shares held
(thousands) Percentage of total
shares issued
The Master Trust Bank of Japan, Ltd., Trust Account 38,583 9.7%
Japan Trustee Services Bank, Ltd., Trust Account 22,049 5.5%
Meiji Yasuda Life Insurance Company 20,565 5.1%
State Street Bank and Trust Company 13,011 3.3%
The Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ, Ltd. 12,297 3.1%
The Chase Manhattan Bank NA London 11,371 2.8%
Tokio Marine & Nichido Fire Insurance Co., Ltd. 10,067 2.5%
Mitsubishi UFJ Trust and Banking Corporation 9,134 2.3%
Nippon Life Insurance Company 7,893 2.0%
The Joyo Bank, Ltd. 6,801 1.7%

[Keith R]

Not that I particularly care Keith, (I shoot Canon) but I did buy and use the d200's for a while and they are well above (in practical use) the 30D in pretty much all but the high ISO noise performance.

The bodies are a large step ahead of the 30D IMO.

I owned two D200s, and was originally a Nikon guy until the D200.

Not even Nikon itself has the temerity to try and market this as a pro camera - their own positioning of the D200 is in the "advanced amateur/semi-professional photographer" market, just like the 30D.

Just because a camera has weather sealing and feels good in the hand doesn't make it "pro", even if it feels like it.

It does nothing that's meaningful to good photographs, better than the 30D - unless you have an absolute, make-or-break need for Auto ISO, in-VF grid lines and custom shooting banks.

They surely don't make up for the inconsistent metering, unreliable AF, noise and inability to capture fine detail that I - and many others - have experienced (and are still experiencing) using it.

And - seriously - a camera that eats through a fully-charged battery in less than 400 shots hardly lends itself to professional work.

Without the image quality being there, the D200 is as "professional" as the next hammer, and frankly I wouldn't use one for much more than knocking nails in, so that's an apt analogy.

Of course, if the "pro" use it's being put to is sitting on a tripod in a perfectly-lit studio, taking one photograph every twenty minutes and then going back to the shot each time to fix the bollocksed metering and inaccurate focussing from the previous shot, then yes it could be used professionally, which is of course a different thing altogether...