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walkien
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 11:54
Did anyone here use this for your 10D? any comments?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=264195&is=REG
Haifidelity
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 12:01
there's a built-in protective LCD screen on the 10D as is--apprently the replacement is 10 bucks.
walkien
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 12:04
there's a built-in protective LCD screen on the 10D as is--apprently the replacement is 10 bucks.
Where can I buy one, is it hard to replace? my LCD screen get scratched all the time. :cry:
Thanks
dsze
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 13:25
On all of my cameras, I've always used PDA protective film over my LCD screens and touch-screens on my video cameras. The PDA protectors do make the LCD a little less sharp, but who cares. We should be using the histogram anyway, and for me its more important to have the screen protected from scratches and just have to replace the PDA film every year or so. It is relatively cheap. I just make a pattern of my screen with paper and then cut the PDA film to match. Speaking of which, I need to quit reading messages on this forum and go cut new film for my 'just arrived' 10D!
-danie
kong
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 16:33
The pda protector is exactly what I use and it works great. I gave out about 6 of them out at the speedway this may for fellow photographers, they thought it was a great idea.....
dsze
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 16:35
Yes,it really works great. It takes some time to get your template made and cut it out and get it on straight and stuff, but its cheap and works well. I also use it on my video camera touch-screen, my PDA, my cell phone screen.
-daniel
defordphoto
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 17:32
When I first got my D60 2 years ago I was a bit paranoid about scratching the LCD cover so I put a protector on it. Hated what it did to my view, but I'd suffer. Then I found out the covers are only $10 and are simple to replace. I ripped that protector off immediately and then once again enjoyed a clear view.
And my LCD cover had nary a hint of a scratch when I recently traded it. My 10D is now over a year old and also nary a scratch. The protectors are pretty pricey and really whack the view on the LCD.
Not worth it, IMO.
msvadi
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 17:42
Did anyone here use this for your 10D? any comments?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=264195&is=REG
I understand that one cannot put this particular protector on a 10D or a DRebel.
walkien
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 17:45
Then I found out the covers are only $10 and are simple to replace. I ripped that protector off immediately and then once again enjoyed a clear view.
Did you order the cover from Canon or camera retail store? I did a search on the web, but no luck. I want to replace mine ASAP
Thanks
defordphoto
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 17:54
Then I found out the covers are only $10 and are simple to replace. I ripped that protector off immediately and then once again enjoyed a clear view.
Did you order the cover from Canon or camera retail store? I did a search on the web, but no luck. I want to replace mine ASAP
Thanks
I never bought a new one as I had no need to. I have never scratched one yet. You can get them from Canon. Just call them.
danik
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 18:38
Bought the exact same one for my 10D. Works great, optically clear, does not affect LCD quality at all.
dsze
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 19:10
I don't understand why its such a big deal to have an optically perfect LCD display? I mean the amount that my PDA film distorts the view on is very minimal. I can read all of the menu items, and I can accurately see the histogram and I can accurately see the composition. Why does it need to be tack sharp on the LCD? We know that the LCD is fairly inaccurate when it comes to exposure anyway. For the $10 that you'd spend on a new LCD screen you could get 5-10 years worth of PDA protectors.
defordphoto
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 19:25
I don't understand why its such a big deal to have an optically perfect LCD display?
Then what's the big deal if the LCD cover has a couple of scratches? ;) These things are tougher than you guys realize. I have heard of extremely few people that have ever scratched them.
dsze
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 19:31
Scratches are a big deal for 2 reasons. A scratched PDA protector can be pulled off and replaced instantly giving me a clear view again. Replacing the LCD screen would take much longer unless you kept them on hand & If I decide to sell the camera at some point down the road. I would bet that most people would be more likely to buy a camera with a clean LCD than a comparable camera with scratches. I think thats a pretty good reason.
defordphoto
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 19:33
I didn't think it was that big a deal to "have an optically perfect LCD display." ;)
dsze
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 19:41
What are you talking about? There is a huge difference between the small distortion that a PDA screen causes and having a big scratch on your LCD! Does that really need to be explained? Why take the chance? All I was saying is that the very, very slight visual imperfection that the cheap PDA protector causes is well worth protecting the LCD IMO. Then pulling that off and sticking a new one on takes about 5 minutes. Changing the LCD screen would be a much more involved process I would imagine.
No, I don't think that having an optically perfect LCD is that important, but having one that is in good shape certainly is important to resale value. No? Are you still confused as to why I prefer throwing away a little piece of cheap, easily replacable plastic as opposed to 'possibly' scratching my LCD's?
defordphoto
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 19:50
:) I just prefer to have the clear view on my LCD and have yet to scratch one, and have been shooting digital for 4 years now without one scratch. I'm letting people know that the LCD covers on the Canon cameras are very robust and very difficult to scratch and they are very cheap.
Just in one breath you say that it's not a big deal to have a perfect display and then in another you say it is. I was just trying to figure that one out...
dsze
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 20:01
lol....ok, man. Here it is for you broken down real simple-like; :wink:
1. It is not so important to have an LCD so optically accurate that you think you can't place a PDA protector on it, because LCD's on your camera are not optically accurate representations of the image file anyway!
2. It is important to maintain your camera for resale value. This includes keeping scratches off of the entire unit. Additionally, a big scratch on your LCD may render it useless. A scratch on the PDA prot. does not.
So, no I do not believe that I am contradicting myself. All I am saying is that the PDA film does not cause significant loss to your use of the LCD in comparison to a scratch on the LCD itself.
Thats great that you haven't had a scratch in 4 years...but re-read this post. Obviously, there are people who already have scratched LCD's, so obviously it does happen! WHY TAKE THE CHANCE? Taking a chance on scratching is not worth it in my opinion as using the PDA film is obviously not worth your time.
....by the way, forgive me for being snappy this evening. Its been a long day! :)
defordphoto
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 20:05
:) You don't have to break anything down for me. PDA covers are being presented as the save all for the super-inexpensive and tough LCD cover that we all have on our Canon cameras. There are two sides to everything and I'm presenting the other side is all. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that there are two ways to go on this one. And if people are that hard on their cameras to be damaging the LCD cover that often, I don't think I'd want to buy their used equipment anyway.
It is really that simple.
blinking8s
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 20:29
keep its resale value, if you scratch it you might be fine with it scratched, but who wants to spend $600 on a drebel or more for whatever camera you have if it has some big dink in the LCD...
ive yet to dind a store with pda protectors...
but i dont think ill be able to resell my 300d for anything by the time i want to get rid of it...so its all good
Photorob
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 20:33
I did not realize that the LCD covers were so cheap to replace. Are these also available for the Mark II? I bought the 4' Hoodskins LCD overlays from B&K for about 10$ and these fit like a glove and are invisible if put on properly. I also bought the 2" which fit well over the top LCD panel. They have no adhesive and seem to do a great job. I am not so worried about scratching myself but my wife can't keep away from my camera. I am in the process of buying her a cheaper digital that is more compact. Any suggestions?
CyberDyneSystems
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 20:40
1. These screens don't scratch easy
2. There is a huge difference in tryiong to guage color and exposure accuracy using an LCD that may have a scratch on it.. and trying to do the same with an LCD that happens to sport a hazy detail and color robbing PDA protector.
The things just aren't needed...
dsze
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 21:20
Whether or not they scratch easy is not the point. They DO SCRATCH. This post was started by someone who says, "my LCD gets scratched all the time."
"color robbing PDA protector" What? Do you really determine color by your LCD? Come on. We've all read the articles on how pointless it is to determine color & exposure by the LCD image so I won't go into why this is a silly thing to say. You should be using your histogram anyway. So, why not protect it? We're talking about a super thin film that is meant to protect visual screens. It is advertised as reducing glare. Glare from bright sunlight is a major factor in why the LCD is not a consistent way to determine color and exposure.
A quick search popped up Best Buy with some PDA protectors for 19.99 for 12. I replace mine about once/year....So, 12 sheets.....you do the math; much cheaper than replacing the LCD.
anyway....what the heck are we doing? Surely, there is something more substantial to learn about digital photography for us. :) I think I'm going to try to find something to read on colorspace. later.
Ebbz
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 22:06
[quote="dsze"]Whether or not they scratch easy is not the point. They DO SCRATCH. This post was started by someone who says, "my LCD gets scratched all the time."
The first guy just asked how to protect them...he didn't say anthing about scratching them all the time. :D
defordphoto
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 22:16
I did not realize that the LCD covers were so cheap to replace. Are these also available for the Mark II?
Yes. Of course. They are also very simple to replace. Scratching a lens element is one thing (I use UV's on all my lenses), scratching an LCD cover is nothing to get all excited about.
defordphoto
1st of July 2004 (Thu), 22:18
[quote=dsze]Whether or not they scratch easy is not the point. They DO SCRATCH. This post was started by someone who says, "my LCD gets scratched all the time."
The first guy just asked how to protect them...he didn't say anthing about scratching them all the time. :D
Well, actually, yes he did, in the third post.
jooka
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 00:25
Where i can order these PDA covers?
mikeg
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 00:49
www.daproducts.com
$6
I used to have one on my D60. Works good. No light fall-off.
Scratch resistant face.
KennyG
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 04:23
I'm with you on this one Jim. My two bodies get thrown in and out of the Billingham, hooked over Armco barriers, showered in gravel and there isn't a scratch on either LCD. Even if there was, to be honest it wouldn't bother me.
There seems to be more effort put into keeping the cameras pristine for resale than using them to take pictures these days. Cameras are tools, not fragile works of art.
CyberDyneSystems
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 06:35
"color robbing PDA protector" What? Do you really determine color by your LCD? Come on. We've all read the articles on how pointless it is to determine color & exposure by the LCD image so I won't go into why this is a silly thing to say. You should be using your histogram anyway. So, why not protect it? We're talking about a super thin film that is meant to protect visual screens. It is advertised as reducing glare. Glare from bright sunlight is a major factor in why the LCD is not a consistent way to determine color and exposure.
... so why exactly are we protecting these useless LCD screens??
I tried the Histogram... couldn't read it through the PDA protector... :wink:
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