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Jmurman
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 04:46
If I wanted to use one of the hacks that are out there fro my 300D.....HOW do i get the info loaded into my camera? Pardon my ignorance.

c0ntr0lz
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 05:03
it's a little tuff
but what i did was to take my card out and put it in the card reader
then open that drive on the pc and open the folder where you dowloaded the hack and then drag the hack to the card folder
then put the card in the camera and it's going to say do you want to update the firmware
then hit HELL YEAH!!!

drisley
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 05:30
Yup, it's very easy.

Btw, c0ntr0lz has unofficially named the hack as "Firmware 310D v1.1".
I like that better too. Sounds better than "hacked"

Jmurman
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 06:31
it's a little tuff
but what i did was to take my card out and put it in the card reader
then open that drive on the pc and open the folder where you dowloaded the hack and then drag the hack to the card folder
then put the card in the camera and it's going to say do you want to update the firmware
then hit HELL YEAH!!!

Thanks, now where do I find this?

c0ntr0lz
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 06:52
sounds good drisley???

Jmurman find what?? the hack??
http://www.bahneman.com/liem/photos/tricks/digital-rebel-tricks.html

drisley
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 07:00
Jmurman find what?? the hack??


No No No!
It's the "310D Firmware v1.1.1" 8)

c0ntr0lz
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 08:10
hahahah ok ok
the 310d Firmware upgrade 1.1.1

CGNKlaus
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 08:16
And what are the benefits of the hacked Firmware :?:

drisley
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 08:43
The "310D Firmware v1.1.1" gives you these benefits:

:D Flash Exposure Compensation
:D ISO3200
:D Ability to chose AF method (AI Autofocus, SIngle Shot, AI Servo)
:D Mirror Lockup
:D Ability to change embedded jpg size (increased my total raw on a 512mb from about 69 images to 79 images)

What else? am i missing something here?

roanjohn
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 08:58
The "310D Firmware v1.1.1" gives you these benefits:


What else? am i missing something here?

:D SET button to quickly change (image size) or (parameters) without going through the menu.

Ro1

c0ntr0lz
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 09:23
MLU mirror lock up with 5 settings or 6
and you get to call it 310d and join the club :D

Bruce Hamilton
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 09:30
What else? am i missing something here?

Voidance of your warranty. You'll have to weigh the risk against the benefits. ;)

MrKickalot
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 09:43
This may sound silly but.... you can go back right? If I don't like the hack can I go back to the factory filmware?

DReb-MO
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 10:06
The warranty thing is really a mute point relative to the firmware. The only issue "MIGHT" be if the firmware can not be replaced before you would need to send it in for service. Others have already indicated that they have sent theirs in with the hack and Canon did not bat an eye.

Yes, you can go back to another firmware version.

RichardtheSane
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 10:22
What else? am i missing something here?

Voidance of your warranty. You'll have to weigh the risk against the benefits. ;)

Warranty is only void if the modification can be proven to have caused a fault...

forrest64
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 14:33
The best way to 'hack' your 300d firmware is to sell your 300d and get a 10D.

polloloco81
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 14:58
The best way to 'hack' your 300d firmware is to sell your 300d and get a 10D.

No, that would be selling your 300D and forking out an extra 600 dollars to buy the 10D (that is if you manage to sell your 300D at street value). 'Hacking' it would be installing the FREE wasia firmware to activate the locked out 10D features of the 300D and save yourself some cash for a good L lense.

Granted the hack does not magically turn the 300D into the 10D since there's still the limitation of the processing power and the plastic body compared to metal. However, for a free firmware that does pretty much everything else, you gotta admit it is pretty damn impressive.

So I guess your definition of 'best' and mine differ. :)

forrest64
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 15:24
I guess our understanding of hack does differ but then so does your understanding of humor.

polloloco81
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 17:39
I guess our understanding of hack does differ but then so does your understanding of humor.

I didn't detect any humour in the sentence you typed. Maybe a smiley might help next time :lol:

elfyrulz
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 17:46
Yes, you can go back to another firmware version.

I'v read somewhere that once you install the hack firmware you can not go back to the original setting(firmware)

defordphoto
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 18:06
Yes, you can go back to another firmware version.

I'v read somewhere that once you install the hack firmware you can not go back to the original setting(firmware)

Untrue.

Digital Prophet
2nd of July 2004 (Fri), 20:22
Well I did the deed. I was a fence sitter since I first heard of the hack. But not anymore. I am off the fence and glad for it.

I can't wait to really give it a good workout. The Mirror Lock is great. What I really need to do is get some good documentation on how to use the new features. Hell I barely new how to use the old features. It's like a new camera again.

But you know, without the salesman mugging me for a grand.

- Digital Propeht -

Digital Prophet
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 06:57
I have noticed the strangest thing. When I set my Rebel to manual the exposure compensation is set to -2 and is blinking. And it seems like no matter what I do I can't change it.

Anybody have any ideas? I got to get this figured out for tomorrow night's fireworks.

- Digital Prophet -

c0ntr0lz
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 07:57
take off the lens cap hehehehhee

um what are you taking a pic of?
what have you set the settings at?

DReb-MO
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 08:19
I installed the Hack last night. Zero problems. Funny the body looks darker to me now. Anyway I have a quick question. When I select custom functions the display across the bottom looks odd, see below:

1 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 1 2 2 3 4 4 5
0 0 0 0 0 1 0 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

I understand the bottom row. What is the top row for. It's NOT the function number? The 10D manual shows these in order and there are NO duplicates like at the end of this one. Any help!!

c0ntr0lz
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 08:41
they are the function # but remeber this is the hack now
so they're not correct
i was looking at that the other night and was wondering too

DReb-MO
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 08:47
If they are not correct then they are not the funtion number. I guess what your saying is they are meaningless?

Digital Prophet
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 10:45
It doesn't seem to matter what I focus on., It just stays at -2 and blinks. All the images take on Manual come out pitch black.

Thoughts? Ideas? Voodoo incantations?

- Digital Prophet -

arumdevil
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 11:03
It doesn't seem to matter what I focus on., It just stays at -2 and blinks. All the images take on Manual come out pitch black.

Thoughts? Ideas? Voodoo incantations?

- Digital Prophet -

is this happening in doors? if yes try in a better lit situation. I don't know if this is what's happening to you but I was curious so I set mine to manual mode (with the 75-300 III) and the exposure dial was blinking at -2 and seemingly nothing would make it stop. then I realized aperture was set to 32. if I set aperture wide open and speed to 3"2 then it is normal. It's just too dark in my little cave to take photos @ 75mm on ISO 100!

you had me scared for a moment there. I hope your reason is the same as mine was... good luck

Digital Prophet
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 11:29
AD you the man! That was the deal. Wow I was getting scared there for a minute. Thanks so much. Hopefully now I will be able to get some decent fireworks pics.

- Digital Prophet -

polloloco81
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 11:35
Can someone explain to me how AI servo is activated using the hack? I know normally, the AI servo is automatic only in the SPORTS mode, but I've read threads that the hack activates it in all other modes, and I just can't seem to figure out how to get it working. I don't see it as part of the menu in the custom functions.

drisley
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 13:01
When shooting, select the left arrow button.
You will see this in your LED

AF 05

This is normal AI Autofocus mode.

AF A1 = One Shot
AF SE = AI Servo

AI Servo still isnt working 100% on the hack because if you press the shutter button all the way, it wont take a pic.
An easy remedy is to quickly lift and repress the button when you want to take a pic. It sounds like alot of work and time, but it's really not.
I use it all the time now!

polloloco81
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 13:10
Awesome, next to MLU, this is probably my second favorite feature. I just wish I figured how to use it yesterday when there was a convoy of chinooks flying over my house.

c0ntr0lz
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 14:23
When shooting, select the left arrow button.
You will see this in your LED

AF 05

This is normal AI Autofocus mode.

AF A1 = One Shot
AF SE = AI Servo

AI Servo still isnt working 100% on the hack because if you press the shutter button all the way, it wont take a pic.
An easy remedy is to quickly lift and repress the button when you want to take a pic. It sounds like alot of work and time, but it's really not.
I use it all the time now!


this isn't happening for me

drisley
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 14:29
Are you looking on your LED or LCD?
It's on the LED.

Also, you press the left arrow button when in picture mode, not play mode.
See if that helps.

polloloco81
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 14:34
Press the left arrow, then turn the dial until it reads AF SE, then shoot away. The trick of holding it halfway, depressing, then pressing fully isn't all that bad.

c0ntr0lz
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 14:45
got it!!!
thanks guys
no i shall have some fun

Guillermo Freige
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 15:44
When shooting, select the left arrow button.
You will see this in your LED

AF 05

This is normal AI Autofocus mode.

AF A1 = One Shot
AF SE = AI Servo

AI Servo still isnt working 100% on the hack because if you press the shutter button all the way, it wont take a pic.
An easy remedy is to quickly lift and repress the button when you want to take a pic. It sounds like alot of work and time, but it's really not.
I use it all the time now!

You have swapped the display indications :)

AF OF: Showed when in MF mode and the LEFT arrow is pressed (corrected)
AF AI: Normal AI Focus mode (DRebel default)
AF OS: OneShot mode
AF SE: AI Servo mode

For AI Servo you can use the release and full depress, or the MF switch trick to make it actually take the picture. I like the first one best because you don´t loose AF during continuous shoting as the camera keeps tracking, and you don´t use the MF switch for every shot twice. I really don´t know for how long the MF switch can stand such a heavy usage.
And also I like more the first trick too because I've discovered it :)

arumdevil
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 15:56
AD you the man! That was the deal. Wow I was getting scared there for a minute. Thanks so much. Hopefully now I will be able to get some decent fireworks pics.

- Digital Prophet -

LMAO!!!!! i don't beleive it, I thought I was the only one stupid enough to think it was broked because of that (even if it was only for 5 senconds).

glad it wasn't anything serious. looking forward to seeing those fireworkses.

reagards,
arum

c0ntr0lz
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 15:59
ok i have min SE but it doesn't light up the focal point in the AF points
is it suppose to?

Guillermo Freige
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 16:06
ok i have min SE but it doesn't light up the focal point in the AF points
is it suppose to?
This is normal, there is no red dot confirmation in AI Servo. You must rely in the lower green dot. If it´s flashing AF isn´t achieved, there isn´t enough contrast to calculate AF, or subject is moving too fast. If it´s on, AF is ok.
My old EOS 5 performed the same way in AI Servo

drisley
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 16:11
Guillermo, thanks so much for that info!
That makes way more sense doesnt it :roll:

Oh, and thanks for discovering the half press, depress, press routine. :D
I was almost going to get a 10D because I wanted AI Servo so badly.

One thing though. When in manual focus mode, and I press the left arrow, I see:
AF OF

When I press the right arrow, nothing happens.

Guillermo Freige
3rd of July 2004 (Sat), 16:14
One thing though. When in manual focus mode, and I press the left arrow, I see:
AF OF

When I press the right arrow, nothing happens.

Ok, you´ve swiched the indications, and I've switched the arrows :)
I meant the LEFT arrow (the one used to change AF mode). Sorry. And it´s AF OF, not AF OM, you are right. That happens when you say things without checking them in the camera... :)

arumdevil
4th of July 2004 (Sun), 18:18
I have a questoion - is this newly enabled AI Servo focus mode on the 300D the same as/as good as that on the 10D? or is it slower/less reliable?

Guillermo Freige
4th of July 2004 (Sun), 21:28
I have a questoion - is this newly enabled AI Servo focus mode on the 300D the same as/as good as that on the 10D? or is it slower/less reliable?
I think it will be as good as the 10D one once the shutter problem is solved. For now is not as good, as the "release and fullpress" trick adds a delay in the first shot. Subsequent shots in continuous mode will be as fast as the 10D AI Servo, but only at 2.5fps and for only 4 frames.

arumdevil
5th of July 2004 (Mon), 06:31
hehe, i meant to start my question with "apart from the shutter not working" ;) :lol:

DReb-MO
6th of July 2004 (Tue), 20:35
I have a questoion - is this newly enabled AI Servo focus mode on the 300D the same as/as good as that on the 10D? or is it slower/less reliable?
I think it will be as good as the 10D one once the shutter problem is solved. For now is not as good, as the "release and fullpress" trick adds a delay in the first shot. Subsequent shots in continuous mode will be as fast as the 10D AI Servo, but only at 2.5fps and for only 4 frames.

I had a question regarding the "release and fullpress" trick. I have tried the following: set the focus mode to AF SE, half press, full press, release then full press. Is that correct? I have gotten the shutter to fire but not consistently. I know I must be doing something wrong when it only fires on about one in five attempts. I keep missing shots trying to use this method and many times when it does fire I some how miss the focal point. Any advice? :?

DReb-MO
7th of July 2004 (Wed), 15:01
Any thoughts on the post above?

arumdevil
7th of July 2004 (Wed), 15:10
yes, you have an extra step. you should be doing:

set the focus mode to AF SE, half press, release then full press.

you had another full press in there. also it will only let you take a photo if it has focus lock, so that could be part of what you're experiencing too.

with a bit of practice it gets easier!

good luck

DReb-MO
7th of July 2004 (Wed), 16:20
Thanks for the tip.

Silvatooth
8th of July 2004 (Thu), 00:10
I still havent "hacked" my 300D yet...I guess I"m reading up as much as possible before I jump into it. But I just checked the DRebel Tips website and supposedly they have a new beta firmware called "B7.1". Anybody give this a try yet?

Axier
9th of July 2004 (Fri), 01:35
Believe me, I am the most fearful "firmware updater" in the world, and I have read lots of posts about the hacked firmware of the 300D before to do it, and I can only tell one thing: great!!, it is easy and sure (you can revert to the official firmware when you want). After updated, the improvements are fabulous and all the prior functions remain working OK.

I have updated the latest version B7.1 and one of the different links is:

http://chrispix.servepics.com/firmware.htm

No doubt, update it!

c0ntr0lz
9th of July 2004 (Fri), 01:53
what are the updates?

Axier
9th of July 2004 (Fri), 03:00
The B7.1 was issued 3 weeks ago. According to your posts, you have already updated the hack firmware B7.1 (16-June), right?

c0ntr0lz
9th of July 2004 (Fri), 03:34
ok so it's that one
so i already have it
i thought it was another
i don't keep up with the names

DReb-MO
9th of July 2004 (Fri), 09:15
Nope, that was it.

NightEye
9th of July 2004 (Fri), 09:16
Quick question about the hack: are the menus and whatnot in Russian or is the English preserved. In other words, do any of the original features change in any way in addition to the new features that are added?

DReb-MO
9th of July 2004 (Fri), 09:28
The installed firmware is in english. You can change the language by reinstalling the Canon authorized fimware making the language change and then reinstalling the hack. Best of luck.