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canotographer
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 04:36
The camera is open for pre-order on Amazon.com now!

$1299 body...September 20th is the release day and here is the specs.


Product Features


10.1-megapixel CMOS sensor captures enough detail for photo-quality poster-size prints
Large 3.0-inch LCD display with enhanced Live View and broadened color gamut
6.5 frame-per-second continuous shooting capability (for bursts of up to 75 Large/Fine JPEGs or 17 RAW images)
sRAW mode; 35-zone metering system; integrated Self-Cleaning Sensor Unit
Powered by BP-511A, BP-511, or BP-512 lithium-ion battery pack; stores images on CF cards


Technical Details



Resolution: Approximately 10.1 million effective pixels (total pixels: approximately 10.5 million)
Recording pixels: 3888 x 2592
Sensor type: CMOS sensor, with primary R-G-B filtration
Sensor size: 22.2 x 14.8 millimeters
Pixel size: 5.7 microns square
Lens focal length factor: 1.6x
Sensor dust removal: EOS Integrated Cleaning System; active removal of dust by vibrating front low-pass filter; automatic removal of dust spots, in Canon Digital Photo Professional software (v. 3.1 or higher)
Maximum frames per second: 6.5 frames per second (fps) at full resolution
Maximum number of frames / burst: JPEG: 75; RAW: 17
Shutter speeds: 30 seconds to 1/8000, plus Bulb (1/3 or 1/2-step increments)
Flash sync speed: Up to 1/250, with EX-series Speedlites
Anticipated shutter durability: 100,000 exposures, based on Canon test methods
Computer interface: USB 2.0 (Hi-speed)
Image recording storage media: CompactFlash (CF) cards (type I or II, including Microdrives)
Card compatibility: "FAT32" compatible--OK for cards over 2GB
Image format options: JPEG (choice of "Fine" or "Normal" compression); RAW (Canon .CR2 RAW file format); RAW + JPEG (any JPEG file size available; JPEG file written as separate file)
Analog to digital conversion: 14 bits per channel (16,382 separate tones from brightest to darkest, for each channel)
Resolution options: "Large"--3888 x 2592 (approximately 10.1 million pixels); "Medium"--2816 x 1880 (approximately 5.3 million pixels); "Small"--1936 x 1288 (approximately 2.5 million pixels)
File numbering: sRGB color space: IMG_0001.JPG or IMG_0001.CR2; Adobe 1998 RGB color space: first character is always underscore (_)
Folders: Automatically created for image storage; new folder can be user-created with "Manual Reset" function; folders cannot be freely selected on memory card by the photographer
Highlight tone priority: Expands tonal range of bright highlights by about one stop; ISO range limited to 200 to 1600; activated by C.Fn II-3-1
Data verification: "Original Image Data" can be appended to each image via Custom Function IV-6-1; requires optional Canon Original Data Security Kit OSK-E3 to check authenticity
Live View viewing options: Camera's LCD monitor; computer monitor, via USB; computer monitor, via wireless transmitter WFT-E3A
Manual focus: Viewed on LCD monitor, with option to magnify focus area 5x or 10x
Autofocus: Possible--C.Fn III-6-1 active, press AF On button; mirror drops down temporarily while AF On button is pressed, allowing AF to function
Silent mode Live View shoot: Mode 1: First shutter curtain remains open; shooting up to 6.5 fps possible; Mode 2: Quieter option; 2nd shutter curtain doesn't close until user's finger is taken off shutter button
Accessory wireless transmitter: Canon WFT-E3A (optional, dedicated wireless transmitter)
Attachment to camera: Attaches to base of camera; totally integrated with EOS 40D's design
Wireless transfer methods: 802.11b or 802.11g; link speed: approximately 11 megabits/second (802.11b) or 54 megabits/second (802.11g)
Connection method: Infrastructure or Ad Hoc (802.11g functions in Ad Hoc mode)
Maximum wireless distance: Approximately 490 feet (150 meters), if "receiver" has its own antenna (depends on environment)
Wireless channels: 11 (in North American market)
Ethernet (wired) transfer: Yes; Ethernet 100Base-TX (maximum distance approximately 1,000 feet); link speed: approximately 100 megabits/second
Transfer options: 1. FTP mode (images sent to folder on host computer); 2. PTP mode (remote control of camera possible from computer); 3. HTTP mode (view camera's files using web browser; remote firing of camera possible)
Security options: Encryption: WEP or TKIP/AES; authentication: open system, WPA-PSK, or WPA2-PSK
USB "host" capability: Plug compatible USB devices into WFT-E2A, for use with the EOS 40D; GPS devices (write GPS time, coordinates, and altitude info into each file's EXIF info); external hard drive (connect compact external USB hard drive, and write files directly from camera to the hard drive as if it's an additional memory card)
LCD monitor: 3.0-inch (diagonal) TFT color; approximately 100% coverage; approximately 230,000 pixels on monitor; approximately 140 degrees viewing angle
LCD monitor brightness: Adjustable in 7 levels (via Menu)
Video-out: Yes (to standard TV monitor); NTSC or PAL, selectable on Menu
Number of AF points: Nine, all cross-type AF points
Center AF point: Unique hybrid cross-type AF point; world's first high-precision AF point with both horizontal and vertical high-precision; additional standard precision, cross-type sensors for lenses from f2.8 to f5.6
AF point selection: 1. Manual AF point selection via 9-way multi-controller on back of camera; 2. automatic AF point selection
AF activation: Shutter button, or new AF On button at back of camera
AF modes: One-Shot AF (for stationary subjects); AI Servo AF (for tracking moving subjects); AI Focus AF (auto selection of One-Shot or AI Servo AF)
AF sensor: Entirely new Canon CMOS AF sensor
AF sensitivity range: EV -0.5 to 18 (at 73 degrees F / 23 degrees C, ISO 100)
Shutter speeds: 30 seconds to 1/8000 second, plus Bulb (1/3 or 1/2-step increments); x-sync at 1/250
ISO range: 100 to 1600, in 1/3-step or full-stop increments; ISO can be expanded to 3200 via C.Fn I-3-1
Auto ISO: Can be set in any exposure mode, including P, Tv, Av, and M; ISO usually based at 400; typical auto range is 100 to 800, depending on conditions; manual exposure mode: auto ISO fixed at 400
Exposure modes: Manual, Aperture-priority (Av), Shutter-priority (Tv), Program AE
Full-auto modes: Green Zone, Portrait, Landscape, Close-up, Action, Night Portrait, Flash Off
Metering: 35-zone metering sensor; Evaluative metering (linked to all AF points); Center-weighted metering; Partial metering; Spot metering at center of picture (approximately 3.5% of picture area)
Metering range: EV 0 to 20 (all patterns, at normal temperatures)
Exposure compensation: Possible in P, Tv, Av, and A-DEP exposure modes; +/- up to two stops, in 1/2 or 1/3-stop increments (via Quick Control Dial)
Autoexposure bracketing: Possible in P, Tv, Av, M, and A-DEP exposure modes; +/- up to two stops, in 1/2 or 1/3-stop increments
Compatible flashes: All Canon EX-series Speedlites, including new Speedlite 580EX II
Camera menu sets flash: Yes (580EX II only, as of August 2007)
E-TTL II flash metering: Flash metering not linked to active AF point; distance from compatible EF lenses now used; entire metering area can be averaged using Custom Function 14-1
Modeling flash: 1-second burst of flash possible at 70Hz when depth-of-field preview button is pressed (580EX/EX II, 550EX, 420EX, MR-14EX, MT-24EX, and Speedlite transmitter only)
Wireless E-TTL: Fully compatible, including ratio setting over six-stop range
Flash exposure compensation: Up to +/- 2 stops can be set on camera body (can also be set on compatible Speedlites)
Built-in flash: Covers lenses as wide as 17mm (27mm equivalent); Guide Number 43 (feet)/13 (meters), ISO 100
Viewfinder focus screen: New interchangeable "Ef" series focusing screens; standard screen: Ef-A--precision matte screen very similar to EOS 30D; optional Ef-D screen--precision matte with grid lines; optional Ef-S screen--Super precision matte (superior manual focusing with fast lenses, f1.8 to f2.8)
Viewfinder display: Similar to EOS 30D; new: ISO is always displayed; new: B/W shooting mode icon; new: maximum burst available now two digits
Dioptric adjustment: User-set from -3.0 to +1.0 (range can be extended using optional Canon dioptric Lens E, plus rubber frame Eb)
Mirror lock-up: Possible via Custom Function III-6-1
Eyepiece shutter: None (cover is provided on included strap)
Color space: Standard sRGB or Adobe 1998 RGB (separate setting on Menu)
White Balance: Auto; Pre-set (Daylight, Shade, Cloudy, Tungsten, Fluorescent, Flash); color temperature (set by user from 2500K to 10,000K in 100K increments); custom (shoot white object or 18% gray card, base WB on that neutral object)
White Balance correction: Fine-tuning of overall color, in any white balance mode; amber–blue correction, in 9 steps; magenta–green correction, in 9 steps; set on graph on LCD monitor, using 9-way controller; both types of correction can be combined
White Balance bracketing: Three separate files written with a single click of the shutter; can be varied in the amber–blue direction, or the magenta–green direction; can be adjusted up to +/- 15 mireds (equivalent to 3 steps on the 9-step adjust scale); can be combined with standard auto exposure bracketing (9 files written to CF card)
Picture style: Extensive range of settings for user to tailor color, contrast, sharpness, etc. to their preference; same characteristics as previous EOS SLRs with Picture Style control
Black and white recording: Set via monochrome setting within Picture Styles menu
Computer connection: USB 2.0 Hi-speed, via small "B"-type USB connection
Remote control: N3-type push-in terminal (same as EOS 20D, EOS-1D Mark II, etc.)
Video-out: Single-pin mini-jack
Direct Printing compatibility: PictBridge printing to compatible Canon and other brand printers
Compatible images: JPEG, RAW, or sRAW, if they comply with DCF protocol
Preview effects on camera's LCD: Printing effects can be previewed (includes brightness, levels, contrast, color saturation, color tone, and color balance--face brightener and red-eye correction cannot be viewed)
Connection to printer: Via USB cable included with camera
DPOF image marking: Compatible; images can be "tagged" while reviewing on LCD monitor
Battery: BP-511A, BP-511, or BP-512 (rechargeable lithium-ion, same as EOS 30D) (BP-511/BP-512: 1100mAh; BP-511A: 1390mAh)
Shooting capacity: Approximately 1100 shots (at 68 degrees F / 20 degrees C); approximately 800 shots (at 32 degrees F / 0 degrees C)
Charger unit: Canon CB-5L or CG-580 (also can be charged with compact power adapter CA-PS400)
AC adapter: AC adapter kit ACK-E2 (optional; consists of adapter AC-E2, and "dummy battery" DR-400)
Battery grip (optional): Battery grip BG-E2N or BG-E2
Date/time back-up battery: CR2016 lithium battery--coin-type; user-replaceable (estimated life 5 years)
Body exterior material: Magnesium alloy top, front, and rear covers
Chassis material: Polycarbonate and stainless steel
Lens mount: EF lens mount; metal; compatible lenses: all Canon lenses for EOS cameras
Compatible with EF-S lenses: Yes
Custom functions: 24 custom functions, in four distinct categories; 9 entirely new custom functions
Operating temperature range: 32 degrees to 104 degrees F, at 85% or lower humidity (0 degrees to 40 degrees C)
Dimensions (W x H x D): 5.7 x 4.2 x 2.9 inches (145.5 x 108 x 73.5 millimeters), very slightly larger than EOS 30D
Weight (without battery or CF card): 26.1 ounces (740 grams), approximately 1.4 ounces (40 grams) heavier than EOS 30D

QF-347
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 04:41
whao! :O :O WHAOOO!

GyRob
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 04:45
So does the focus wok on this one lol
Rob

canotographer
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 04:46
So does the focus wok on his one lol
Rob

Let's hope it won't share the MarkIII problem.

Ospi
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 04:47
Thats it im sold, and its not as expensive as i thought either. Boooya.

Jim G
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 04:51
Until an official Canon announcement is made it's all still rumour and hearsay found on the internet ;)

canotographer
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 04:52
Thats it im sold, and its not as expensive as i thought either. Boooya.

Ya.. I agree. looks very attractive on paper indeed.

Jim G
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 04:53
Hmm. I can't see weather-sealing there anywhere - bummer!

strat666
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 04:54
Amazon.com entry (http://www.amazon.com/Canon-40D-10-1MP-Digital-Camera/dp/B000V5P90K/).

From it:

Should the user inadvertently open the compact flash card door while the camera is writing to the card, a warning will pop up on the LCD screen and an open door "alarm" will sound, but the image(s) will continue writing to the memory card without interruption.

Phil Askey's gonna sleep well tonight ;)

Jonathan
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 04:57
Very nice spec - ticks all my boxes. Love the ISO in the viewfinder, big LCD and the auto ISO.

Now we just have to wait for someone to start crying because there is no weather sealing, 10fps. 6400 ISO, 45 AF points and all that other stuff that got listed in the rumours thread by some of those here who think Canon are going to sell 5D/1D specs for 30D prices.

strat666
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 05:00
There is at least some weather sealing:

Recognizing the often rigorous shooting conditions encountered by professional and advanced amateur photographers, Canon design engineers made the EOS 40D SLR's magnesium alloy exterior even more ruggedly dependable than its predecessors with upgraded dust- and weather-resistant construction, particularly around the camera's connection ports, battery compartment, and single-slot compact flash (CF) memory card door.

Chandler.
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 05:03
Awesome.

cy88
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 05:06
This is interesting: Wireless transfer methods: 802.11b or 802.11g; link speed: approximately 11 megabits/second (802.11b) or 54 megabits/second (802.11g)

However i doubt it'll be TOO useful.

Glenn Wolsey
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 05:10
6.5 FPS, 3-Inch LCD, and LiveView? I'm sold, time to start putting some money away leading up to the new year.

S2000
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 05:13
Here is the Canon 40D with lens kit...

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-40D-Digital-28-135mm-Standard/dp/B000V5QV4S/ref=sr_1_14/105-0345911-8875673?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1187518320&sr=8-14

strat666
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 05:15
And we also have the EOS-1Ds Mark III (http://www.amazon.com/Canon-1Ds-Mark-III-Digital/dp/B000V5LX00/)!

Mizaki
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 05:15
10.1-megapixel CMOS sensor captures enough detail for photo-quality poster-size prints
- Fine with me. 8MP was enough for my purposes. This gives a bit more room to crop.
Large 3.0-inch LCD display with enhanced Live View and broadened color gamut
- Nice addition.
6.5 frame-per-second continuous shooting capability (for bursts of up to 75 Large/Fine JPEGs or 17 RAW images)
- As an amateur wild life and sports shooter, this is something that I really like. More FPS is better and when the depth of RAW-buffer is compared to 20D, for me this is a huge leap. Yes. This sold 40D for me.
Number of AF points: NINE, ALL CROSS-TYPE AF POINTS
- Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. That's it. A really, really, nice surprise. Wasn't expecting this. Might be a huge leap and sounds really benefical for my purposes.
sRAW mode; 35-zone metering system; integrated Self-Cleaning Sensor Unit
- Suppose this is nice.
Lens focal length factor: 1.6x
- Not willing to invest to 500/L, with my 400/5.6 this is good.
Sensor dust removal: EOS Integrated Cleaning System; active removal of dust by vibrating front low-pass filter; automatic removal of dust spots, in Canon Digital Photo Professional software (v. 3.1 or higher)
- OK. Might be nice.
Image recording storage media: CompactFlash (CF) cards (type I or II, including Microdrives)
- As expected. Anything else would have been a dissapointment.
Card compatibility: "FAT32" compatible--OK for cards over 2GB
- Nice, although to diversify risk, I don't use anything above 2GB.
Analog to digital conversion: 14 bits per channel (16,382 separate tones from brightest to darkest, for each channel)
- Well, well, well. This is really interesting. Should be good, although I am still wondering what it will mean in respect to prints ordered and made from RAW files converted to JPGs.
Highlight tone priority: Expands tonal range of bright highlights by about one stop; ISO range limited to 200 to 1600; activated by C.Fn II-3-1
- This is interesting. Wasn't expecting it, but I can well see using this function.
Live View viewing options: Camera's LCD monitor; computer monitor, via USB; computer monitor, via wireless transmitter WFT-E3A
- Well. I have been using angle finder in certain occasions. Not critical, but might be useful occasionally.
Silent mode Live View shoot: Mode 1: First shutter curtain remains open; shooting up to 6.5 fps possible; Mode 2: Quieter option; 2nd shutter curtain doesn't close until user's finger is taken off shutter button
- Could be useful sometimes. Nice extra.
Transfer options: 1. FTP mode (images sent to folder on host computer); 2. PTP mode (remote control of camera possible from computer); 3. HTTP mode (view camera's files using web browser; remote firing of camera possible)
- Hmmm. Why not.
USB "host" capability: Plug compatible USB devices into WFT-E2A, for use with the EOS 40D; GPS devices (write GPS time, coordinates, and altitude info into each file's EXIF info); external hard drive (connect compact external USB hard drive, and write files directly from camera to the hard drive as if it's an additional memory card)
- Another nice extra. Could be useful sometimes.

Center AF point: Unique hybrid cross-type AF point; world's first high-precision AF point with both horizontal and vertical high-precision; additional standard precision, cross-type sensors for lenses from f2.8 to f5.6
- Good for my 400/5.6-
AF sensor: Entirely new Canon CMOS AF sensor
- Waiting to see.
Auto ISO: Can be set in any exposure mode, including P, Tv, Av, and M; ISO usually based at 400; typical auto range is 100 to 800, depending on conditions; manual exposure mode: auto ISO fixed at 400
- Good addition.
Modeling flash: 1-second burst of flash possible at 70Hz when depth-of-field preview button is pressed (580EX/EX II, 550EX, 420EX, MR-14EX, MT-24EX, and Speedlite transmitter only)
- Although I do not do a lot falsh photography, whis sounds interesting (I suppose this wasn't available in 20D)
Viewfinder focus screen: New interchangeable "Ef" series focusing screens; standard screen: Ef-A--precision matte screen very similar to EOS 30D; optional Ef-D screen--precision matte with grid lines; optional Ef-S screen--Super precision matte (superior manual focusing with fast lenses, f1.8 to f2.8)
- Nice addition.
Battery grip (optional): Battery grip BG-E2N or BG-E2
- Apparently it takes 20D's grip???
Compatible with EF-S lenses: Yes
- I understand that this and higlight priority will make this quite attractive proposal for wedding shooters using 17-55/2.8

S2000
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 05:21
Here is what I see

1. Canon seems to have recognized that "others" can and will produce cameras that truly compete with it cameras and are willing to make serious changes quickly. NO MORE "just 2 more mega pixals upgrades"

2. "Others" should follow suit with their Canon beaters.

3. 1970's / 80's camera manufactures wars seem to be starting all over again.

Inspired Photography
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 05:22
Here is what I see

3. 1970's / 80's camera manufactures wars seem to be starting all over again.

The only one who wins those is us, so YIPPEE!!! :D

Rob

canotographer
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 05:23
Here is the Canon 40D with lens kit...

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-40D-Digital-28-135mm-Standard/dp/B000V5QV4S/ref=sr_1_14/105-0345911-8875673?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1187518320&sr=8-14

Quite a bargain for the lens.. Only $200 more..

Chandler.
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 05:24
And we also have the EOS-1Ds Mark III (http://www.amazon.com/Canon-1Ds-Mark-III-Digital/dp/B000V5LX00/)!

:shock: That will be a powerful camera.

ninoe
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 05:29
really interesting, can't wait for the official launch:)

S2000
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 05:29
Quite a bargain for the lens.. Only $200 more..


I believe that it is Canon's answer to "no body IS" in a prosumer camera.

Lani Kai
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 05:34
I don't know why they keep bundling it with the 28-135 IS and not the 17-85 IS...

canotographer
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 05:35
I guess $1900 bundle with the 17-55/2.8IS will work very well too!

alexwise
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 05:54
Nice! Surely someone will get the whip cracked for this?

Lani Kai
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 05:58
So... Anyone order one yet? :mrgreen:

Ospi
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:01
I need to spawn some dollars real fast. "looks around room looking for something to sell", anyone for a nice book case?

michael_
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:03
nice one

Jonathan
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:03
To me it looks like a good upgrade. There's more in it than, say, the 350D to 400D upgrade last year and I am certainly tempted to move up to it once it hits Europe.

baboymo
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:17
Product Description
From the Manufacturer

Building on the success of Canon's perennially popular "prosumer" EOS 20D and 30D models, the EOS 40D advances the state-of-the-art for mid-range digital SLR cameras, making it a natural first choice for advanced amateur photographers and entry-level professionals, and an ideal second body for more established photo pros. Indeed, given the level of feature upgrades and improvements, technological wizardry, and user-requested creative controls, the Canon EOS 40D SLR's "prosumer" appellation may refer more to its accessible price point than to the exceptional quality, clarity, and resolution of the images it creates.

From the camera's newly enhanced, 10.1-megapixel CMOS imaging sensor (designed and manufactured by Canon) and its proprietary and super-efficient DIGIC III image processor, to its completely redesigned autofocus sensor and fast, 6.5 frame-per-second (fps) continuous shooting capability (for bursts of up to 75 Large/Fine JPEGs or 17 RAW images), the EOS 40D SLR puts the fun in functionality and makes serious photo business a positive pleasure.

Indeed, at 6.5 fps, no digital SLR in the EOS 40D mid-range class and price category has so high a continuous shooting capability, making it ideal for shooting--and actually capturing--speed-sensitive outdoor and wild-nature shots as well as a wide variety of action and sports scenes. The speed of the EOS 40D SLR comes from Canon's balanced combination of its latest processor, DIGIC IIII, DDR SDRAM high-speed memory, four-channel-per-line sensor readout, and two separate motors for shutter and mirror operation.
Display's the Thing
The most easily visible upgrade on the EOS 40D Digital SLR is the camera's larger 3.0-inch LCD screen (compared with the EOS 30D's 2.5-inch monitor). Still, size is only the beginning of the difference between these two cameras' displays. In order to increase viewing ease in outdoor conditions such as bright sunlight, Canon raised the brightness level of the EOS 40D camera's 230,000-pixel LCD screen, broadened the color gamut, and narrowed the viewing angle from 170 degrees to a still wide 140-degree perspective in all directions. An added advantage of the larger-sized display is the ability to use a larger font size for text, making it easier to read setting and menu options on the screen. The camera's menu is organized in the same tabbed format as the EOS-1D Mark III Digital SLR.

Canon extends its "ease-of-reading" policy to the EOS 40D SLR's viewfinder as well. The upgraded viewfinder increases optical magnification from 0.90x to 0.95x, expands the viewing angle from 251 degrees to 264 degrees and raises the eye point from 20mm to 22mm.
Enhanced Durability
Recognizing the often rigorous shooting conditions encountered by professional and advanced amateur photographers, Canon design engineers made the EOS 40D SLR's magnesium alloy exterior even more ruggedly dependable than its predecessors with upgraded dust- and weather-resistant construction, particularly around the camera's connection ports, battery compartment, and single-slot compact flash (CF) memory card door. Should the user inadvertently open the compact flash card door while the camera is writing to the card, a warning will pop up on the LCD screen and an open door "alarm" will sound, but the image(s) will continue writing to the memory card without interruption. The EOS 40D SLR also retains many of the outstanding features of the EOS 30D model, such as its fast 0.15-second initial start-up, its extremely durable shutter (rated up to 100,000 cycles), its top shutter speed of 1/8000 second, and 1/250 maximum X-sync flash shutter speed setting.

Improved Image Quality
Although it is based on the image sensor used in the EOS Digital Rebel XTi, the EOS 40D Digital SLR's 10.1-megapixel CMOS APS-C size image sensor has been significantly improved thanks to the use of larger microlenses over each pixel to reduce noise and expand sensitivity up to ISO 3200. The EOS 40D retains the model 30D camera's 1.6x focal length conversion factor (compared to full-frame digital image sensors or 35mm film) and is compatible with the full line-up of Canon EF lenses as well as the Company's expanding selection of high-quality, affordable EF-S lenses created specifically for Canon digital SLRs with APS-C size image sensors.

Adding to the improved virtuosity of the images captured by the EOS 40D SLR is the camera's 14-bit Analog-to-Digital (A/D) conversion process. Able to recognize 16,384 colors per channel (four times the number of colors recognized by the EOS 30D SLR's 12-bit conversion capability), the EOS 40D camera is able to produce images with finer and more accurate gradations of tones and colors. The EOS 40D also incorporates the optional Highlight Tone Priority and High-ISO Noise Reduction functions first introduced earlier this year with the EOS-1D Mark III Professional Digital SLR.
DIGIC III
DIGIC III is the latest generation of Canon's proprietary image processing engine. DIGIC III technology ensures that the fine details and natural colors of the images are optimally recorded and, as an added bonus, is also responsible for the EOS 40D SLR's high-speed performance, faster signal processing, and even its efficient energy consumption.

sRAW
In addition to retaining the RAW image capture capabilities of its predecessors, the EOS 40D SLR now offers a more manageable "sRAW" recording format. In sRAW mode, the number of pixels is reduced to one-fourth that of a standard RAW image and the file size is cut in half, while retaining all of the flexibility and creative possibilities associated with full-size, conventional RAW images.

Improved Autofocus and Exposure Control
While the EOS 40D SLR maintains the nine-point wide area AF coverage first introduced on the EOS 20D camera, Canon has made significant improvements to its speed, precision, and functionality, minimizing subject recognition problems in the process. The EOS 40D camera's completely redesigned nine-point AF sensor provides cross-type AF measurement at all nine focusing points for maximum apertures up to f5.6, and for the first time in any EOS camera, the central AF point offers enhanced precision for both vertical and horizontal subject contrast when using EF or EF-S lenses featuring maximum apertures of f2.8 or faster. AF calculation speed with the EOS 40D camera is 30 percent faster than the EOS 30D model.

The Canon EOS 40D Digital SLR retains the same 35-zone metering sensor as its predecessor. Available patterns include Evaluative metering, which is linked to all AF points and is set automatically in the Basic Zone modes, Centerweighted average metering, Partial metering, and Spot metering, covering approximately 9 percent or 3.8 percent of the viewfinder at center, respectively. The camera's E-TTL II autoflash and 12 exposure control modes (11 AE modes plus manual) are also unchanged from the EOS 30D SLR model. However, as a result of consumer input, Canon has added three Custom exposure modes. As an added convenience, particularly for wireless flash operations, users can adjust the flash settings of the Canon Speedlite 580EX II directly from the camera.

The Canon EOS 40D camera offers ISO speeds from ISO 100 to ISO 1600 in 1/3-stop increments. Users can also opt for a high-speed setting of ISO 3200. For the first time in any EOS camera, the 40D model offers Auto ISO capability in Creative Zone exposure modes. This valuable new feature adjusts the ISO speed to the optimal setting based on low light or shaky shooting conditions. Additionally, the EOS 40D provides full-time display of the active ISO speed setting, both in the viewfinder as well as on the top LCD data panel.

The Canon EOS 40D Digital SLR is also the first camera in its class to offer two interchangeable focusing screens in addition to the standard precision matte screen. Users can opt for a grid-type focus screen that makes it easier to verify horizontal or vertical alignment while determining image composition, as well as the Super-Precision Matte focusing screen that makes it easier to grasp the "sweet spot" of manual focusing when using a lens with a maximum aperture of f2.8 or faster.
Enhanced Live View
Previously the province of the EOS-1D Mark III DSLR (one of Canon's top-tier professional cameras), the Live View function now gives EOS 40D camera users an expanded and exceedingly convenient and comfortable set of shooting options. By permitting the framing and capturing of subjects using the camera's LCD screen instead of the viewfinder, the shooter gains a 100 percent field view to more easily achieve the desired composition. A new Custom Function on the EOS 40D allows autofocus during Live View by pressing the camera's AF-ON button. At that point, the reflex mirror goes down and AF is carried out in the normal way. Letting go of the AF-ON button resumes Live View functions. Also, in the Live View shooting mode the user can magnify the image by five or ten times in order to ensure that the shot is optimally focused. Live View is at its best during tripod shooting--particularly for close-up photography where precise focusing is imperative. As a side benefit, the Live View shooting mode helps to reduce vibration by lifting the reflex mirror out of the optical path well in advance of the exposure, improving image quality at slow shutter speeds. A new electronic 1st-curtain shutter function in Live View mode reduces release time lag and operational noise even further to avoid spooking wildlife or disturbing people nearby with unwanted camera sounds. Additionally, as the release time lag is miniscule, even instantaneous movements like a bird taking flight can be readily captured.

EOS Integrated Cleaning System
First introduced on the EOS Digital Rebel XTi camera, the EOS Integrated Cleaning System is a prime example of trickle-up technology and is now becoming a standard feature on all new EOS Digital SLRs. The camera's Self-Cleaning Sensor Unit uses ultrasonic vibrations to literally shake dust particles off of the low-pass filter in front of the sensor each time the camera is powered up or shut down. Users also have the option of engaging the "clean now" function at will or bypassing it altogether. Additionally, the EOS 40D SLR's manual sensor cleaning function raises the mirror and allows users to clean dust that has stuck to the low-pass filter. Dust that has been shaken or blown loose is then trapped by adhesive at the base of the sensor unit housing, preventing the problematic particles from reattaching themselves to the filter when the camera moves. The second part of the cleaning system is a software solution that maps the location of any spots that may remain on the sensor. The mapped information is saved as Dust Delete Data and attached to the image file. Subsequently, the offending dust information is subtracted from the final image during post processing with a compatible personal computer, using the supplied Digital Photo Professional software.

Improved Software
Among the most valuable features of the Canon EOS 40D Digital SLR is its compatibility with Canon's Picture Style Editor (PSE) 1.0 software. With PSE, shooters can actually design the look of their photographs by inputting their own preferred style, color, and tone curves. The EOS 40D Digital SLR also ships with the latest versions of Canon's powerful software applications, including Digital Photo Professional 3.1 and EOS Utility 2.1, which now support the camera's Remote Live View and Dust Delete Data functions, as well as incorporating a broad range of additional improvements designed to improve image quality and speed up workflow. Also included are ZoomBrowser EX 5.8 and ImageBrowser 5.8 for easy browsing, viewing, printing, and archiving with compatible computer operating systems, including Microsoft Windows Vista and Windows XP, as well as Mac OS X.

Accessories (Not Included--Must be Purchased Separately)
New system accessories for the EOS 40D SLR include the redesigned high-capacity Battery Grip BG-E2N, which facilitates high-volume shooting and easier vertical shooting. Compatible with up to two BP-511A battery packs or a set of six AA-size batteries, the battery grip approximately doubles the number of shots that can be taken, compared with the battery power of the EOS 40D SLR alone. The BG-E2N grip features new sealing material around the battery compartment to better resist water and dust. The new model replaces the original BG-E2 grip and is compatible with the EOS 20D, 30D, and 40D models.

Designed exclusively for the EOS 40D SLR, the new Wireless File Transmitter WFT-E3A permits wireless transfer and back-up, as well as remote control of the camera in Live View mode. It can also be connected to various GPS receivers or Hi-Speed USB 2.0 external storage devices such as convenient flash drives or high-capacity hard drives with much larger storage capacity than the memory cards in the camera for instant back-up as images are captured. Compact and affordable, the WFT-E3A wireless transmitter also doubles as a vertical grip and requires its own BP-511A battery pack in addition to the battery installed in the camera body.
EF-S 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 IS Lens
Developed in response to consumer demand for a high-quality yet affordable optically image stabilized lens, the Canon EF-S 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 IS standard zoom lens adds a phenomenally flexible lens to the EOS 40D SLR shooter's imaging arsenal. While it features the wide-angle to mid-range zoom flexibility of its non-IS predecessor, this new EF-S 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 IS lens offers the significant advantage of a true lens-shift image stabilization system that yields up to a full four stops of image-shake correction.

The higher performance provided by Canon's lens shift IS system (compared with the in-camera sensor shift type offered in some competitive SLRs) includes the ability to optimize the lens performance for specific shooting situations such as low-light, long-zoom, or movement while shooting (or virtually any combination of the three). What's more, the shooter can see the image stabilization effect in the viewfinder. As the image already appears steady, more accurate framing and composition is possible, the AF point can be placed more precisely, and the photographer can concentrate on the optimal shot more comfortably.

Lani Kai
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:20
The speed of the EOS 40D SLR comes from Canon's balanced combination of its latest processor, DIGIC IIII, DDR SDRAM high-speed memory, four-channel-per-line sensor readout, and two separate motors for shutter and mirror operation.
DIGIC IIII :lol:

18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS huh?

ryandavid__
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:29
jhesldigjneslfgdslfgndsfg
ok, so i was awaiting this release, so i could get a 30D cheaper.
but now, obviously i want a 40D. dkwfnlkasjgnaklgn.
i knew this would happen.
i like the specs though.

roli_bark
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:41
Something's fishy here !
Can someone tell me why [ for the 1st time ] Amazon is doing the initial announcement before even Canon ?

captainbk
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:41
Why is there no official press release on the Canon site? I can't believethat the camera will be available in one month without some pre-release reviews. If the camera will be sold so soon, you know they are already in manufacturing. I really think this is someones ideal wish list for what the 40d will be. Just my 2 cents worth

hitmanh
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:45
Why is there no official press release on the Canon site? I can't believethat the camera will be available in one month without some pre-release reviews. If the camera will be sold so soon, you know they are already in manufacturing. I really think this is someones ideal wish list for what the 40d will be. Just my 2 cents worth

Lol, why would amazon have a spec wishlist for a camera? Seems more likely to be a mistake putting up the info before the offical release... it wouldn't be the first time something like this has happened.

roli_bark
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:46
Why is there no official press release on the Canon site? I can't believethat the camera will be available in one month without some pre-release reviews.


As I said, something stinks here ... ??? ...

Lotto
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:46
Ah, still 1.6 crop, I feel safe to order the 5D now :)

segasaturn
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:47
Holy ******* **** **** **** ****!!!

captainbk
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:48
Lol, why would amazon have a spec wishlist for a camera? Seems more likely to be a mistake putting up the info before the offical release... it wouldn't be the first time something like this has happened.


LOL....like everything you read on the Internet is true........I will wait until I see the official release on Dpreview.com. LOL

captainbk
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:49
As I said, something stinks here ... ??? ...

You and I are very much in agreement on this one.

canotographer
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:50
Something's fishy here !
Can someone tell me why [ for the 1st time ] Amazon is doing the initial announcement before even Canon ?

I think it's not an announcement by Amazon... the site is just doing business and taking pre-order. I beleive the press conference is on Monday...Some other e-tailers have been started taking pre-oredr of the 40D since last week. Specsheet has been already out before Amazon... so what so fishy?

Mike V
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:55
40D sounds like a very sweet body.

Now where is the 24-70mm f2.8 IS I want...?

razyl
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:57
It does seem odd Amazon have the first run....but all the specs seem quite plausible. Monday morning (in whatever time zone you are) should tell more / all

Lotto
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:57
30D is $997.95 now in Amazon.

roli_bark
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 06:59
I think it's not an announcement by Amazon... It is just there doing business and taking pre-order. I beleive the press conference is on Monday...

Howcome ? A "just doing business and taking preorders" ???
Without giving Canon a chance to announce it with the regular PR Hype ?


Or, maybe, Amazon paid an undisclosed sum for the priviledge of being 1st ? :rolleyes:

canotographer
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 07:14
LOL....like everything you read on the Internet is true........I will wait until I see the official release on Dpreview.com. LOL

BTW.. Amazon now owns dpreview...But of course, I beleive Phil still has 100% authority on making operational and editorial decisions for the site...

canotographer
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 07:21
Howcome ? A "just doing business and taking preorders" ???
Without giving Canon a chance to announce it with the regular PR Hype ?


Or, maybe, Amazon paid an undisclosed sum for the priviledge of being 1st ? :rolleyes:

You are right. It's odd. But everything is possible... Who knows (and who cares about) what excatly the deal and terms are...All we can see now is the very detail information about this camera posted on the most powerful, reputable and profitable e-tailer site...and yes.. it's just there doing business and taking pre-orders (what else do you think they are doing? Don't tell me you think it is there for spreading rumor by taking orders from it's customers....)...

So agian, what so fishy? :D

Cheers,

Tom W
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 07:23
Something's fishy here !
Can someone tell me why [ for the 1st time ] Amazon is doing the initial announcement before even Canon ?

Someone broke their NDA - or Canon allowed Amazon to pre-empt the official announcement.

cyrn
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 07:26
Someone broke their NDA - or Canon allowed Amazon to pre-empt the official announcement.

Should be juz a "preview", there are quite a lot of mistakes there.

Cr4zYH3aD
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 07:26
28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM

not really wide

I don't know if im sold tho...

xarqi
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 07:38
28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM

not really wide



Yeah, but there's also a new 18-55 3.5-5.6 IS USM @ $US200. Could even be that the 28-135 listed is a mistake. It would make more sense to have the new body and 18-55 IS as the kit, I'd have thought.
--
P.S.
On second-thoughts, the new 18-55 isn't released until November, so maybe the 28-135 is a stopgap.

Cr4zYH3aD
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 07:49
the price will drop to 1,000$ with a lens i guess, by february.


i paid my xti and 18-55 1088 + 15% taxes

Tom W
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 07:49
The 17-85 IS would be a more logical choice, given the sensor size. 28 isn't wide-angle on the APS-C.

Cr4zYH3aD
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 08:25
That's what I though

sandro9mm
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 08:31
I'm not upgrading in a near future... unless I see a real review fro DP

Double Negative
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 08:34
New lens, too! Here is what I like:

Canon EF 14mm f2.8L II USM Lens
Designed primarily for discerning landscape and architectural photographers, the Canon EF14mm f2.8L II USM lens is ideally suited to the EOS-1Ds Mark III's full-frame capability. Measuring 3.7 inches in length and weighing in at under 23 ounces, this ultra-wide angle L-series prime lens is well corrected for rectilinear distortion, provides a 114-degree diagonal angle of view, and delivers high-speed autofocus with higher image quality overall including superior peripheral image quality, compared to its predecessor, the stalwart EF 14mm f2.8L USM lens.
While its large diameter, high-precision aspherical and UD elements, optimized lens element positioning, and flare and ghost-reducing lens coating ensure that this lens delivers the top optical performance in its professional class, Canon has added other features photographers have been asking for--improved dust and water resistance incorporated around the mount, switch panel and focusing ring, and a round aperture that creates a nice background blur and makes it easier to recognize an out-of-focus scene in less than brightly lit conditions. Furthermore, Canon has created a new lens cap specifically for the EF 14mm f2.8L II USM that is held to the lens by a stopper.

flawlessly
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 08:39
Link to Amazon... (http://www.amazon.com/Canon-40D-Digital-28-135mm-Standard/dp/B000V5QV4S/?tag=slickdeals)

There is a new 18-55 IS kit lens, you just have to scroll down to the end of spec.

EF-S 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 IS Lens
Developed in response to consumer demand for a high-quality yet affordable optically image stabilized lens, the Canon EF-S 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 IS standard zoom lens adds a phenomenally flexible lens to the EOS 40D SLR shooter's imaging arsenal. While it features the wide-angle to mid-range zoom flexibility of its non-IS predecessor, this new EF-S 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 IS lens offers the significant advantage of a true lens-shift image stabilization system that yields up to a full four stops of image-shake correction.
The higher performance provided by Canon's lens shift IS system (compared with the in-camera sensor shift type offered in some competitive SLRs) includes the ability to optimize the lens performance for specific shooting situations such as low-light, long-zoom, or movement while shooting (or virtually any combination of the three). What's more, the shooter can see the image stabilization effect in the viewfinder. As the image already appears steady, more accurate framing and composition is possible, the AF point can be placed more precisely, and the photographer can concentrate on the optimal shot more comfortably.

I think that would be nice to have with a kit.

scottykm
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 08:51
Hmmmm, I was just starting to think 5D, now they drop this in.

I agree with the fishy comments, but if its accurate, hell, why couldnt they do this instead of the the 30D, this looks like a decent upgrade, hopefully some pics soon

NorCalAl
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:01
I'm sold! Getting in line!

Cr4zYH3aD
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:02
I think the 40D will be the "professional - best built" XTI. Like the 30D.

But I don't know if i'm ready to spend another 1,500$ to change from my xti

MaxxuM
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:02
Ordering mine now :)))

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-40D-Digital-28-135mm-Standard/dp/B000V5QV4S/ref=sr_1_5/002-8116172-9980852?ie=UTF8&s=photo&qid=1187532080&sr=1-5

Do'h... didn't notice what forum I was in. Sorry Mods. Please delete post :)

_aravena
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:03
Should be in Camera Bodies section, but w/e. I can't believe it but at the sametime I can. It's everything I ever wanted! Except fps could be higher. :D

Waiting till Christmas/my bday and begging the parents.

FelixP
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:04
I could actually save up for this, maybe. Get about £150 for xmas and then hope my relatives are unusually generous for my 18th 2 weeks later. Annoyed I just brought a 28-135 though, now they'll be loads of them floating around, and people might call it the 'kit lens' :cry::p

mellowd
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:06
I think this is the 4th 40d thread already

cdhender
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:09
Now I have a tough decision between this and a 5d :(

Jackal
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:15
"The EOS 40D camera's completely redesigned nine-point AF sensor provides cross-type AF measurement at all nine focusing points"

Damnit, this is how it should have been a long time ago.

Livinthalife
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:15
Since the new kit lens will be IS, I assume it's safe to say Canon has no plans of having in body IS...at least not for a long while.

Wazza
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:17
Well that's just because we're all excited

Box Brownie
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:18
If this is the real MaCoy and perhaps an "official leak" then it looks like we in the UK/EU are getting it later as usual.

Patience :( the spec does tick one heck of a lot of boxes.

JC4
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:18
So, who wants to buy my XTi? I have to wait and see if the 40d's high-ISO performance is anything like my 1d. If it is, this will be my next body, replacing my XTi.

JohnC

SuzyView
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:19
I may just have to get one instead of the MKIII for sports. 6.5 isn't bad.

Livinthalife
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:21
6.5 isn't bad.

it's waaaay better than 3 ;)

cyrn
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:23
Now I have a tough decision between this and a 5d :(


I'd wait for the 5D replacement. full frame is a different beast to shoot with.;)

isabel
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:25
I want one! I like the 14bit sensor, liveview, better weather seal, 30% faster AF and sensr cleaning. Not to mention the Digi3!.Still there is no official announcement from canon...:(

MaxxuM
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:27
I'm so amazed they put so much into it... I was expecting them to hold back many of its features.

SoaringUSAEagle
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:28
The 40D to me is just like the xt, xti, 400D IMO...

I'm wanting to get the 1Ds Mk III, 1D Mk III or the 5D Mk II or whatever will be the equivalent down the road. That will be my next purchase. I will keep my 5D though as a backup. I probably wont ever let it go lol.

But yes I can see the 6.5 fps as an improvement, but I dont need it for what I shoot.

Oh Suzy, GO FOR THE 1 SERIES! :D :) ;)

liza
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:30
I'm probably going to order one, though I'd promised myself I'd just get the 30D when the new camera was announced. This one just has too many upgrades to pass up. It will make a great backup camera for weddings!

flawlessly
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:31
Oh one thing that I didn't notice was the 40D sensor is as small as XTi, just a layer of microfilter at the front, I'm worry about this as the noise from XTi isnt good. I got my 30D when it was released, now, I'm eyeing on the new 5D replacement, full flame is quite good since I used once from me friend. Hope the new 5DII will have all the goodies from 40D and a little more... :)

MaxxuM
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:33
Wow... They didn't hold back the features. It is exactly what I wanted and then some.

Mr. Clean
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:33
lol :D

"...The EOS-1Ds Mark III autofocus system--first introduced earlier in 2007 on the EOS-1D Mark III Digital SLR..."

SoaringUSAEagle
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:34
Oh one thing that I didn't notice was the 40D sensor is as small as XTi, just a layer of microfilter at the front, I'm worry about this as the noise from XTi isnt good. I got my 30D when it was released, now, I'm eyeing on the new 5D replacement, full flame is quite good since I used once from me friend. Hope the new 5DII will have all the goodies from 40D and a little more... :)

Yep I read that too... totally turned off by the 40D. I will stick with my old 5D. ;)

Desertraptor
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:36
Canon website says nothing of it's release?
$1499 should equate to $2000 Aus. I'm in :)

kitacanon
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:37
Can someone tell me how this compares to the 5D:

"The upgraded viewfinder increases optical magnification from 0.90x to 0.95x, expands the viewing angle from 251 degrees to 264 degrees..."

Thanx for your responses...

rklepper
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:37
I wonder when the 50D will come out? :D

350D_Noob
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:39
This 40D seems to be really impressive, but I still want a 1D. I still might opt for a 1, but this is REALLY tempting.

liza
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:42
I'll probably buy one. It will be a decent backup camera for weddings. I'm anxiously waiting for the new 5D in the spring! :)

Oh, and about Amazon releasing the specs early... they do it almost every time Canon has a new release and then pull the page as if it were a "mistake." It's no mistake, just good marketing. ;)

Cr4zYH3aD
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:43
"The EOS 40D camera's completely redesigned nine-point AF sensor provides cross-type AF measurement at all nine focusing points"

What does that means

plus, well, 40D will not be a full frame...

freebird
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:43
holy crap!!!!!!!!!!

flawlessly
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:46
Yep I read that too... totally turned off by the 40D. I will stick with my old 5D. ;)
I fell a little odd when cleaning 30D sensor because of the size of sensor, now I don't feel comfort at all with a smaller sensor from 40D, even it has like what? a auto cleaning system? I don't think it gonna work somehow!

Mr. Clean
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:50
"The EOS 40D camera's completely redesigned nine-point AF sensor provides cross-type AF measurement at all nine focusing points"

What does that means

plus, well, 40D will not be a full frame...
That means that all the focusing points should be as accurate as the center AF point on the 30D.

Well, the 40D never was going to be full frame. :D

I fell a little odd when cleaning 30D sensor because of the size of sensor, now I don't feel comfort at all with a smaller sensor from 40D, even it has like what? a auto cleaning system? I don't think it gonna work somehow!


Where does it say the sensor is smaller?

S2000
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:50
Just pre-ordered one.....

liza
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:53
"The EOS 40D camera's completely redesigned nine-point AF sensor provides cross-type AF measurement at all nine focusing points"

What does that means

plus, well, 40D will not be a full frame...


It means the focusing will be better. ;)

And you'll probably not see a full frame prosumer camera. That's why people spend the big bucks for 5D's and 1DS MKIII's.

Mr. Clean
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:55
Nice! An 18-55 kit lens with IS too. That's kinda slick...

JC4
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:56
Well, the 40D never was going to be full frame. :D


True. I don't know why anyone thought different. If the 40d wasn't a 1.6x sensor, the only camera to take EF-S lenses would be the XTi. That wouldn't be a good thing, for Canon, or EF-S customers.

SuzyView
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:57
The 1.6 crop is useful for me for the sports I'll be covering this fall. I may just get the 40D and be done with my gear list. Oh, except for the 300 IS that I need after I get the new camera. It never ends.

MaxxuM
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 09:59
Pre-Order now gone.... Now only e-mail when available... What gives?

RichNY
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 10:01
Amazon has taken down the page

S2000
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 10:04
Amazon has taken down the page

I have a receipt for my pre-order......:lol:

MaxxuM
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 10:05
I have a receipt for my pre-order......:lol:

:P

Was checking which CC to put it on... Should have just done it and 'then' made sure I had the money hehe.

Crashoran
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 10:09
I will probably end up selling my 1D and replace it with the 40D now.

Tsmith
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 10:09
"the EOS 40D camera is able to produce images with finer and more accurate gradations of tones and colors."

That I do find appealing.

liza
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 10:13
Oh, and about Amazon releasing the specs early... they do it almost every time Canon has a new release and then pull the page as if it were a "mistake." It's no mistake, just good marketing. ;)

Pre-Order now gone.... Now only e-mail when available... What gives?

Amazon has taken down the page

Told ya so!!! :p

hitmanh
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 10:24
The amazon page is back up... lol http://www.amazon.com/Canon-40D-10-1MP-Digital-Camera/dp/B000V5P90K/

scottykm
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 10:25
hmmm wonder if Kerso will be taking pre-orders?

Indecent Exposure
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 10:32
Was it taken down? I'm getting a 404 error.

_aravena
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 10:34
I want one! I like the 14bit sensor, liveview, better weather seal, 30% faster AF and sensr cleaning. Not to mention the Digi3!.Still there is no official announcement from canon...:(

Seeing how there was none, having some is better. ;)

The S5 wasn't announced till late remember? I posted pics from a Ritz catalog

MaxxuM
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 10:36
The amazon page is back up... lol http://www.amazon.com/Canon-40D-10-1MP-Digital-Camera/dp/B000V5P90K/

Clear your IE cashe and try to do a search on Amazon... You won't find it. The pre-order is gone too. The only way to find it now is to have the direct link.

Jonathan
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 10:40
The amazon page is back up... lol http://www.amazon.com/Canon-40D-10-1MP-Digital-Camera/dp/B000V5P90K/


I think you may have that page cached - it's gone from the site and so has the 1Ds MkIII ;-)

S2000
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 10:41
How long until Canon Black-Ops makes this disappear as well

http://www.pixelision.com/albums/userpics/10019/Canon%7E0.jpg

Indecent Exposure
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 10:45
Got it to come up following this (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000V5P90K/002-7468772-2040059) link. Preorder is gone.

Specs
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 10:46
Jump to mid-October, 2007:

Wife - "Kevin! I just opened the credit card statement. NOW what the h--- did you buy!":mad:

Nick_b
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 11:03
I want one.... or two...

I can't wait for some reviews!

I hope there aren't focusing issues.

TristanCardew
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 11:08
C'monnn....i got all excited waiting here for many weeks reading the 'Rumours' section eagerly awaiting an announcenement, and then i thought i had it tonight :cry:

Soon enough. Love the specs for it though..6.5fps!! :D

roli_bark
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 11:10
Something's fishy here !
Can someone tell me why [ for the 1st time ] Amazon is doing the initial announcement before even Canon ?

What did I tell you earlier in the thread ?

NickSimcheck
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 11:13
How long until Canon Black-Ops makes this disappear as well

http://www.pixelision.com/albums/userpics/10019/Canon%7E0.jpg


I have Amazon Prime so I get overnight shipping for $3.99. I'll have mine on the 21st :p

BiPolarBear
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 11:21
What sauce goes best with crow, cause i'm eating it.
Thought the 40D would be a moderate updrage. These specs (assuming they are real) look to be a huge leap over my 20D. And huge in alot of important areas. Not just fluff.

So help me out here. Is this the exact same sensor as what is in the 400/Xti?

S2000
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 11:21
I have Amazon Prime so I get overnight shipping for $3.99. I'll have mine on the 21st :p

I made a phone call and they are shipping it free (credit me the $9.xx) as promised when I checked out....:p

I somehow don't think we will be getting ours by SEPT 20th. I do think we will be on the top of the list for Amazon shipments when they do hit the streets.

We will also be first to have:

1. Every Canon related problem
2. Told there is no issue by Canon
3. Then told the "issue" is really our fault
4. Then Then given 4 firmware updates that don't fix the "non issue" with the 5th being the fix.

BUT HEY...I'm getting new gear.....:lol:

S2000
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 11:22
So help me out here. Is this the exact same sensor as what is in the 400/Xti?

Yes, but it has be better pix density coating BS...it's in the description.

MaxxuM
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 11:23
I have Amazon Prime so I get overnight shipping for $3.99. I'll have mine on the 21st :p

If you're lucky. I have Prime too and 2 out of 8 pre-orders were late on popular items.

cyrn
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 11:29
I somehow don't think we will be getting ours by SEPT 20th. I do think we will be on the top of the list for Amazon shipments when they do hit the streets.

We will also be first to have:

1. Every Canon related problem
2. Told there is no issue by Canon
3. Then told the "issue" is really our fault
4. Then Then given 4 firmware updates that don't fix the "non issue" with the 5th being the fix.

BUT HEY...I'm getting new gear.....:lol:


Hahaha.. That's a nice way of putting it in perspective.

ajbalazic
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 11:30
Looks good. I can't wait to get my hands on one.

Graphyfotoz
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 11:34
Well I'm all set....my 20D has less than 600 clicks(Just got 2nd hand).
Speed of bootup and AF improvements is what I was after over my 10D.
No hurry to UG again for another coupla years.
But anyone who is ready for a UG the 30D will be a bargain soon.
I'm not all caught up in the tech advancement jive.
I still say it's the person behind the box that makes the photo.

SOME and I quote SOME advancements are worth having.
The mega pixel bit isn't REAL important to me seeing I don't make anything over 8x10 or 16x20. 8mp covers this just fine.
I read somewhere that the mega pixel thing is mostly hype due to the fore mentioned.
Only 2 advancements that are of intrest to me.....
Self cleaning sensor and 100,000 shutter life.
Other than that I don't see anything really my 20D don't have.

IF I could sell some of my work and use the profits twards a 30D or 40D is the only way I'd UG.
Nice part this time is the BG-E2 will fit the 20D....30D and the 40D.
The 10D grip wouldn't so I had to let it go and start over.
The BP511 batts will also fit all 4.

Not to mention the 20D has no major issues.....why UG to something with possible issues?

.

folville
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 11:54
I'd hate to be a skeptic, but did anybody happen to take screencaps of the page or the camera itself or anything like that? I suppose if we have all the info in the OP and if it looks just like the 30D there's not much to see, but as a latecomer I am curious!

Two questions:
Why is this in the lens forum?
Is there actually a Canon press conference tomorrow at which they're expected to announce the camera in question?

Savagebasher
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 12:11
I'd hate to be a skeptic, but did anybody happen to take screencaps of the page or the camera itself or anything like that? I suppose if we have all the info in the OP and if it looks just like the 30D there's not much to see, but as a latecomer I am curious!

Two questions:
Why is this in the lens forum?
Is there actually a Canon press conference tomorrow at which they're expected to announce the camera in question?

there was no image, just the tech data and summery that has already been posted in here.

roli_bark
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 12:25
I'd hate to be a skeptic, but did anybody happen to take screencaps of the page or the camera itself or anything like that?


Yes - here they are:

see below direct links ...

NickSimcheck
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 12:27
I made a phone call and they are shipping it free (credit me the $9.xx) as promised when I checked out....:p

I somehow don't think we will be getting ours by SEPT 20th. I do think we will be on the top of the list for Amazon shipments when they do hit the streets.

We will also be first to have:

1. Every Canon related problem
2. Told there is no issue by Canon
3. Then told the "issue" is really our fault
4. Then Then given 4 firmware updates that don't fix the "non issue" with the 5th being the fix.

BUT HEY...I'm getting new gear.....:lol:


I hear ya...

At least we're not sending in any rebates!

NickSimcheck
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 12:27
Yes - here they are:

Page-1:
http://rolibark.ifastnet.com/1.jpg

Page-2:
http://rolibark.ifastnet.com/2.jpg

Page-3:
http://rolibark.ifastnet.com/3.jpg

Page-4:
http://rolibark.ifastnet.com/4.jpg


Red-X'es

roli_bark
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 12:29
I used "Insert Image" and entered an external URL address to 4 JPG files.
Seems not to work.
Does anybody have an idea howto ?

[ when I access these URLs from my compyter, all are displaed fine ]

Hermeto
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 12:38
http://rolibark.ifastnet.com/1.jpg

http://rolibark.ifastnet.com/2.jpg

http://rolibark.ifastnet.com/3.jpg

http://rolibark.ifastnet.com/4.jpg

Headcase650
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 12:42
Wireless E-TTL: Fully compatible, including ratio setting over six-stop range

Does this mean the body will control slaves?
That would be awesome and a long time needed.

BiPolarBear
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 12:42
....... Other than that I don't see anything really my 20D don't have......

.

I guess it all depends on what you shoot and what options are important to you, so I can't argue with you. I like my 20D too.
But assuming i'm reading the specs correctly, the addition of 8 cross high precision sensors alone makes this upgrade worth it to me from a 20D (the center point is now high precision in both horizontal and vertical? Bonus). Would i be wrong in thinking this would help greatly with Ai servo tracking as well?

From the Amazon/vendor verbage before it apparently vapourized ...
"The BG-E2N grip features new sealing material around the battery compartment to better resist water and dust. The new model replaces the original BG-E2 grip and is compatible with the EOS 20D, 30D, and 40D models."
This does say the new battery grip fits the 20/30D, but doesn't exactly say the old battery grip fits the new body. Would sure hope so. Hate to see them put some little bump on the camera base that won't allow the old battery grip to fit just so you'd have to buy the new one. That would be cheesy.... but clever.

Assuming this "leak" is the real specs, and if everything works in the real world as it looks on paper, it sure looks like a big upgrade to me.
A Mini-1D in some aspects (well not really, but that's how my wallet is thinking of it ;) ).
Greg

Hermeto
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 12:42
Hmm, ifastnet.com obviously doesn’t like direct linking.
You have to copy these links into the Address field and hit Enter..

roli_bark
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 12:46
http://rolibark.ifastnet.com/1.jpg

http://rolibark.ifastnet.com/2.jpg

http://rolibark.ifastnet.com/3.jpg

http://rolibark.ifastnet.com/4.jpg

Thanks buddy. Alternatively, You can to "Right-Click" & "Save Target As" ...

Juan Zas
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 12:54
All Amazon links down ... !!

May be Canon are in top of that!! (NDA violation ??)

But specs are matching the ones already posted by me coming from Rafa Irusta Blogsite !!

ed rader
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 12:54
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=24427295

tamko
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 12:56
haha, Amazon killed the 40D page today. Canon probably fire couple PM to Amazon to have them shut down those pages....

alan'07

Tom W
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 13:06
All Amazon links down ... !!

May be Canon are in top of that!! (NDA violation ??)

But specs are matching the ones already posted by me coming from Rafa Irusta Blogsite !!

Definately an NDA violation - but the cat's already out of the bag. I think we can say with a great deal of certaintly that the Amazon.com description of the coming 40D is real.

Cr4zYH3aD
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 13:24
nda?

folville
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 13:27
nda?

nondisclosure agreement

*edit: It's good to see the screencap of the amazon page; that puts my mind at ease, but there were no shots of the camera itself then? I'm sort of interested to see what it looks like (if it's anything different).

Echo_
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 13:30
Those are great specs and for the people who don't believe it, leaks happen a lot in the technology area, especially with online businesses.

Juan Zas
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 13:46
The only Amazon link that still is working at this very moment (and may down very soon too) is the one of the EF 14 mm f/2.8 L II USM:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-14mm-2-8L-Wide-Angle/dp/B000V5P94Q/ref=sr_1_3/104-9260260-2823111?ie=UTF8&s=photo&qid=1187531822&sr=1-3

pwm2
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 14:15
Looks like I'm about to get a new camera :)

I truly hate the old 7-point AF on the 350D.
I truly hate the 3-shot RAW buffer on the 350D.
I truly hate to sometimes not being able to see the menu choices on the LCD.
I truly hate to not see the ISO setting in the viewfinder.

Any two of the above being corrected is enough to warrant an upgrade.

Besides my "criticals", the 40D seems to give me a number of nice things too:
- Better weater protection
- Wireless E-TTL
- Auto-ISO in P, Av, Tv and M.
- LiveView to help with manual focusing
- More frames/second.
-...

How can I not upgrade?

_aravena
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 14:22
from a 350D to the 40D makes a lot of sense. Event he 30D with all the new features, you could easily sell the 30D for around a grand and in the end you're only paying $300+ for it.

ellectronico
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 14:25
its it weird for me to want to upgrade from my 20d just because i want the USB host mode and wireless moduel? lol

deeeez
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 14:31
YEEEAAAAA I'm loving this... I'm switching.. I love the specs..!!!!

timbop
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 14:38
Yes, but it has be better pix density coating BS...it's in the description.

No, it is NOT the same sensor. It's got 4 channel 14 bit output, and the larger site size/microlens.

ed rader
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 14:45
its it weird for me to want to upgrade from my 20d just because i want the USB host mode and wireless moduel? lol

how about the much larger LCD, incremental iso and 1000 pic files?

ed rader

Chosenbydestiny
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 14:50
This is going to be my first DSLR, finally leaving my analog Canons and Nikons behind.

ellectronico
19th of August 2007 (Sun), 14:58
how about the much larger LCD, incremental iso and 1000 pic files?

ed rader

Oh yes!