Metrosexual Tacticality Help

[45R]

Comments and Suggestions on how I can improve the clarity of the brass inside the glass vase.

What do you guys think?


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[Don Ellis]

Boost saturation by 30 and sharpen more (brass only).

And while I'm at it... take out some of the brass (you wouldn't fill it that full with water). Use lights from both sides to eliminate the shadows. Smooth your white background. Considering filling the vase up to the brassline with water and see if that's interesting.

And finally, I don't really get it... although that wasn't the question. I think I know where you're going -- guns and roses and all -- but I don't believe this composition is going to get you there. Just one formerly armed individual's opinion. 8)

Don

[Silvatooth]

polarizer might get rid of some of the glass reflection.
Also, the background fabric ripples are a bit distracting up top.

[Andy_T]

I think the flashlight distracts a bit from the (presumed) main motive.

Is it necessary for the picture? What do you want to say with it?
Another point would be to observe the 'rule of thirds'

Best regards,
Andy

[CyberDyneSystems]

Yes,.ditch the flashlight! You have a rose, a lethal weapon.. and "Wow.. A flashlight" ... something that 5 year old boys covet.

I never "get" the flashlight.. :?:

[cgratti]

Yes,.ditch the flashlight! You have a rose, a lethal weapon.. and "Wow.. A flashlight" ... something that 5 year old boys covet.

I never "get" the flashlight.. :?:

I still like flashlights...lol

[Mikelite80]

That is no 5 year old boy flash light. The top and bottom are actually designed for hitting people with. Made by Surefire, everyone should own one of there lights.

Mike

[CyberDyneSystems]

Mike,. I am well aware of the fascination with these so called "tactical" flashlights... I just find the whole concept totally and utterly ridiculous and the result of some fascinating very well planned marketing. Penlights for $125.00... ?

Not for me. I find the whole "newfangled" -ness of the whole thing all the more confusing when coupled with the retro desire to shoot a golden oldy like .45acp pictured above. Mating a $125.00 penlight with a plastic (sorry "polymer") "nine" seems "normal" but when you water down your classic like a .45 with such nonsense... :roll:

Clearly.. just this old fashioned opinion.
But to me "no one should own a 125.00 pen light"

I just don't get some of the latest fads.

[vfilby]

That is no 5 year old boy flash light. The top and bottom are actually designed for hitting people with.

What is beyond me is the fact that they make a flashlight "for hitting people." Why not just get yourself a bat, isn't it cheaper? Or better yet skip the pen light an buy a 4D battery Maglight; which can double for a bat.

I just think that it is a sad state of society when we start putting metal spikes on otherwise innocent objects with the intent of turning them into a maiming device.

Vince

[timmyquest]

Mike,. I am well aware of the fascination with these so called "tactical" flashlights... I just find the whole concept totally and utterly ridiculous and the result of some fascinating very well planned marketing. Penlights for $125.00... ?

Not for me. I find the whole "newfangled" -ness of the whole thing all the more confusing when coupled with the retro desire to shoot a golden oldy like .45acp pictured above. Mating a $125.00 penlight with a plastic (sorry "polymer") "nine" seems "normal" but when you water down your classic like a .45 with such nonsense... :roll:

Clearly.. just this old fashioned opinion.
But to me "no one should own a 125.00 pen light"

I just don't get some of the latest fads.

It's hard to fight something if you see nothing but a blairing white light

[CyberDyneSystems]

It's really hard to imagine hitting somone with a penlight when you have .45 acp autoloader in the other hand ! :shock:

[Scottes]

Judge: Officer, why did you shoot this man 6 times?
Officer: Because that's all the bullets I had.

When the magazine is empty, it's not much use as a gun any more. And if I needed a full clip and they're all gone, then I want every single thing that I have to be a weapon. I'll be wishing that I had filed my teeth at that point...


And a Maglite doesn't hold a candle to these new flashlights. They used to be awesome - and they're still great, but no longer top of the line by a long shot.

[vfilby]

Wasn't it in the movie Snatch where Boris the Blade (the crazy Russian) sells the guy a heavy gun, "because if it doesn't work you can always hit him with it." Perhaps they should just put bayonets on plastic handguns: one on the barrel and one on the handle.

I just don't really see the point in killin or maiming, so I also don't see the point of weapons such as this. Guns I can see for sport, rifles for hunting but what non-violent activity can these flashlights be used for? As a light sure, but then why the spikes and such?

Either way I am going to be extra careful not to get in your way Scottes! ;-)

Vince

[timmyquest]

I just don't really see the point in killin or maiming, so I also don't see the point of weapons such as this

I dont either, but i can assure you that if someone breaks into my home in the middle of the night i can quickly find the point.

[vfilby]

Agreed, but I think in that case I would grab the closest thing I could find that would act as a bludgeon or go to the kitchen where I know sharp knives are not hunt for my killer flashlight.

Vince

[CyberDyneSystems]

I see now.. why didn't they just say so?

Don't look at it as a flashlight..

...look at it as a $125.00 sharp pointy stick.. that happens to have a pair of AA's in it and functions like a two dallar penlight when your not trying to stab somone with it :mrgreen:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[45R]

Well thanks for the tips on this picture. I'm probably going to shoot it again with cleaner brass and a real rose. I wanted to see what kinda feelings this picture would stir up. For the most part its been pretty comical.

Here are some close ups that I took a while back of the "penlight"

http://www.pbase.com/image/28983249.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/28983248.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/28983251.jpg


Surefire is the gold standard that every light maker is following right now. Variations of these lights are being used by the Army and Marines in Iraq.

CyberDyne...you wonder why one would want to carry a light along with the .45ACP. Well before decides to start pointing a gun at someone, one of the rules of engagment is to be able to identify your target.

These "penlights" put out so much focused light that the perp looking into them will be blinded for 2-3 seconds. This time allows you to make a choice.

Surefire is to flashlights what Canon is to photography. I happen to have one in of these lights in my car, my CamelBak, camera bag and night stand. You never know when you will need a light.

Ask my friend Jeff ........he was in the bathroom of a resturant when the lights went out and he was sitting down........ :lol: There would be no way that he could have found his cleaning patches if he didnt have his penlight :)

[Radtech1]

I just don't really see the point in killin or maiming, so I also don't see the point of weapons such as this

I dont either, but i can assure you that if someone breaks into my home in the middle of the night i can quickly find the point.

How bout if someone just knocks on your door at 8:00 in the evening and asks if your grandson is at home. Do you take your gun with you then? Because that is what happened to my Dad. Someone knocked on his door and asked for my nephew. Oh, by the way, below is a photo of my Dad, my Mom, my Nephew and his fiancé. Notice the sign that says "Bless this Home" because this IS their home now.

http://home.ripway.com/2004-2/78486/Canon/Home1.jpg

http://home.ripway.com/2004-2/78486/Canon/Home2.jpg

http://home.ripway.com/2004-2/78486/Canon/Home3.jpg

The gift of a man (boy, actually, he was 19) who bought a gun from someone who stole a gun from someone who purchased it legally at a sporting goods shop. Now, I know there is a lot of people who will look at this and be convinced that this is the action of just one person, and that the original purchaser had nothing to do with the end result of his gun purchase.

But I sense that there is a lot more blame to go around. A lot of links in this chain. Not the least of which is the NRA, and "law abiding" citizens who buy, sell and distribute these killing machines. See, I doubt that the killer would have been very successful had the only weapon he had access to would have been a stick. But, unfortunately, someone had to exercise his 2nd amendment rights to bear arms. Probably for protection, who knows, who cares. Didn't stop to think that a gun is huge thief magnet. He likely even thought of himself as a "victim" when it was stolen, not a participant, a link. But simply by having it, he made it available. Just exercising his 2nd amendment rights.

We live in a society that cannot see that the 2nd amendment was written for single shot muzzle loading flintlocks. Something about "freedom". Well, next time the NRA starts chanting "Freedom", I hope they stop to remember just who as been sacrificed on their alter of freedom, 4 (well, 3.5 actually) of my family has. Enjoy... 'cause it's expensive freedom. And I have had the price of it shoved down my throat.

As far as your picture goes, the rose with the gun in an effort (I assume) to present the gun as something beautiful, sensual. It disgusts me. But that's just me and I am bias. Tell you what, though, if you want to shoot something do it through the lens. Simply by owning that friggen thing you make yourself into a link in someone's chain. And you never know if that's the chain that's gonna get pulled.

http://www.kingcountyjournal.com/sited/story/html/47127

http://www.kingcountyjournal.com/sited/story/html/47374

http://www.kingcountyjournal.com/sited/story/html/47373

http://www.kingcountyjournal.com/sited/story/html/47372

I wanted to see what kinda feelings this picture would stir up. For the most part its been pretty comical.

[45R]

Radtech1-
I would really appreciate it if your would not twist my comments after the fact. Your quote of me at the end of your post is referring to the comical comments about my "killer" penlight not an anti-gun sentiment that you have just created. This was a fun post and you've turned it into something otherwise.

What happened to your family is tragic and makes me sick but your arguement for gun control is based on emotions and not facts.

42% of U.S. households owns firearms.

28% of U.S. residents owns firearms?

[Davis and Smith, General Social Surveys, 1972-1993, all figures]

Chances are your good neighbor and people you associate with probably own one or more firearms.

Lets explore the positive side of civilian firearms ownership.

Defensive gun uses (DGUs) by civilians, per year...2,500,000 to 3,500,000

But I sense that there is a lot more blame to go around. A lot of links in this chain. Not the least of which is the NRA, and "law abiding" citizens who buy, sell and distribute these killing machines.

Fraction of DGUs in which no shot is fired...92%

In most DGUs, a firearm is merely displayed by the intended victim, and the criminal flees. No one is injured. Civilian gun ownership clearly gives the edge to the law-abiding defender, because in 82 percent of DGU situations, the criminal has no gun.

[Combination of sources cited by Kleck in Targeting Guns (1997), all figures]

Crimes committed with guns, per year...1,000,000

About three times as many DGUs occur per year.

[Combination of sources cited by Kleck in Targeting Guns (1997)]

So nearly 3.5 Million crimes per year prevented with a firearm.................because law abidding citizen choose to arm themselves and exercise 2nd A rights.

Tell you what, though, if you want to shoot something do it through the lens.

I'll have you know that I spend about as much time with my 2nd Amendment rights as I do with my 1st Amendment rights that many of us cherish on this board. These freedoms that I enjoy don't come from the NRA. The NRA only seeks to maintain our 2nd A right. The other liberties and freedoms we enjoy in the US are because soliders felt that these liberties were worth protecting and made the ulimate sacrifice.

If you would like to engage further converstaion over this matter leave me an email address and we can continue this in private. This is not the forum nor the place.

Respectfully


45R

[Big_B]

On a different note... could you use a real rose? The plastic thing really grates :)

[rick barclay]

Designer weapons for the ladies? Is that the message here? Cool.

As for me, give me a rustly old screwdriver anytime. I never go to the city
without one.

[45R]

On a different note... could you use a real rose? The plastic thing really grates :)

The props used for the photos are pretty much mocks up. I'm going to clean the brass or buy new stuff and get a real rose. The picture definetly has what I visualized before I shot it. Another thought was a box of long stem roses and a shotgun ala Terminator Style. I just like the 45 better :)




Designer weapons for the ladies? Is that the message here? Cool.

As for me, give me a rustly old screwdriver anytime. I never go to the city
without one.

HAHAHA Its a Metrosexual message. Kinda like even guys can look cool with tactical gear and flowers.


I still cant believe all those posts about "penlights".

[CyberDyneSystems]

I apologize to all ... for I must now lock this thread.

45r.. I think you understood my flashlight jokes were just that.. but I do want to apologize for being the catalyst that threw this thread so far off topic...

Radtech.. I am very sorry for your families loss :(

I think we need to step back though from what the images in the thread have triggered in some of us emotionally.. and thus I am going to lock the thread. These political discussions are needless to say quite sensitive, and when we mix them here we are almost guaranteed the possibility of conflict.

Thanks for understanding.
CDS
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