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jschao
7th of July 2004 (Wed), 20:29
I was wondering if anybody can help me buy a lens for my 10D! I have a Sigma 70-300 4-5.6 lens, but i am thinking of upgrading! I mostly shoot sports events. I also have trouble getting a sharp picture if i dont use a tripod. Thank you for your help!!

blinking8s
7th of July 2004 (Wed), 20:38
what is you budget? lots of options :)

jschao
7th of July 2004 (Wed), 20:44
my budget will probably be hmmmmmm!! $200-$500!

Tom W
7th of July 2004 (Wed), 20:58
Question 2 - what range of zoom do you use most often now? Do you always have it extended to the 300 end, or are most of your shots in the 100-200 range? What you use the most will help decide what you might want to get.

roanjohn
7th of July 2004 (Wed), 21:10
200 f2.8 prime.

Ro1

CyberDyneSystems
7th of July 2004 (Wed), 21:19
The only lens worth mentioning that is less than $500.00 and gets out to 200mm or more is the 75-300mm IS.. but I don't really like it.

But for a few dollars more than $500.00 you get get a 70-200mm f/4L ?

With this you could then get out to 280mm @ f/5.6 with a 1.4X t-con... and you could save a bit there as it will work very well with the Sigma 1.4X t-con...

The Prime is really nice too.. better really,.. but I don't recall the price?

jschao
7th of July 2004 (Wed), 21:29
you second answer would be that its between 200-300mm. DO i need an Image Stabilizer?

jschao
8th of July 2004 (Thu), 15:12
any more advice??

RikWriter
8th of July 2004 (Thu), 15:14
I would second the notion of going a bit over $500 and getting the 70-200 f4 L lens. I have one and so far I love it. Worth the money by far.

jschao
8th of July 2004 (Thu), 16:25
what are the advantages and features of a 70-200 f4 L ?

Thanks...and what does the L stand for? as you can tell, i am a very beginner at this..haha

RikWriter
8th of July 2004 (Thu), 16:36
what are the advantages and features of a 70-200 f4 L ?

Thanks...and what does the L stand for? as you can tell, i am a very beginner at this..haha

The L symbolizes that it is Canon's professional line of lenses.
L glass is better quality and sharper than the non-L line, generally.

jschao
8th of July 2004 (Thu), 16:39
ohh..thank you!!

Ken Fong
8th of July 2004 (Thu), 17:15
The image stabilizer is great if you do a lot of panning at low shutter speeds (shooting a moving subject). You can stabilize in the horizontal/vertical for 'complete' stabilization, OR just in the vertical for excellent 'motion' shots.

When you are not shooting a moving subject, the image stabilizer buys you another 1-3 stops of light to compensate for your hand shaking if you are not using a tripod.

drisley
8th of July 2004 (Thu), 17:26
Personally, I think the 70-200F4L is awesome, and is the best bargain L lens available!

jschao
8th of July 2004 (Thu), 18:45
Does the 70-200 f4L have the image stabilizer???

What is the cheapest lens that has an image stabilizer?

Thank you again for all your help!

Ken Fong
8th of July 2004 (Thu), 18:48
Unfortunately no...you would have to consider the hefty 70-200 2.8 or 100-400 4.5 to get an IS option. The lowest priced IS lens is 28-135 f3.5-5.6, you can get it new for under $400 after rebate. This is the lens that 'lives' on my camera. I'm not sure if it works with a 2x converter, but you would probably lose a lot of light if you did that.

How close are you to the subjects and under what type of lighting?

jschao
8th of July 2004 (Thu), 18:51
well, i will be shooting alot of sport events so i probably need 200mm or more dont you think?? i use natural lighting!!

Ken Fong
8th of July 2004 (Thu), 18:56
For 10D owners, a 135mm lens is effectively 216mm after the 1.6x cropping factor.

Sigma has some new OS (optical stabilization?) lenses, their version of IS. It is probably a lot cheaper than the Canon equivalents, but probably still more than your budget (80-400mm 4.5-5.6 at $1200).

If you rely on natural light, Sigma has a good 70-200 2.8 lens for about $600 used...combine this with a monopod and you have a low-tech vertical stabilizer, which might be all you need when panning a 'motion' shot. Since you are using a 10D, your maximum zoom becomes 200x1.6 = 320mm! Then shoot in RAW and crop down for some pretty good close-ups at an economical cost. Your focusing will need to be dead-on if shooting wide-open, but it will be very rewarding if you succeed. You may not need a 2.8 lens if you tend to shoot on bright days...those earlier recommendations will work just as well.

jschao
9th of July 2004 (Fri), 11:07
nm

jonnyhorizon
9th of July 2004 (Fri), 11:16
i have a 75-300 IS i got used for 200.00
i use mine for wildlife and i have it fully extended a lot
the lens gets a lot of mixed reviews and it is not terribly sharp at 300
i am saving for a 100-400L
the quality of the images from the 75-300 is very subjective
i could point you to tons of samples from it
i do a lot of sharpening and generally the results are ok
the price is right
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