View Full Version : BRSCC Brands Hatch 1/2-Sept 2007
Pete
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 15:02
I had the pleasure of being able to be guests in the paddock for the weekend (a friend is a driver in the Fiesta Chamionpship).
Pretty much all of these were taken with the 135L, I just preferred using it over the 100-400, and it gaves good results. All track shots were taken on the inside of Druids.
Comments/critique would be very welcome.
Super Silhouettes ducking and diving.
http://www.the-aperture.com/EE/photos/normal/IMG_8358.jpg
Some TVR drivers aren't afraid of a scratch or two.
http://www.the-aperture.com/EE/photos/normal/IMG_8410.jpg
Super Silhouettes - "close racing"
http://www.the-aperture.com/EE/photos/normal/IMG_8320.jpg
Skid lid
http://www.the-aperture.com/EE/photos/normal/IMG_7944.jpg
Never seen a TVR like thos before, but it's funky, loud and fast!!
http://www.the-aperture.com/EE/photos/normal/IMG_7851.jpg
Time Attack 350Z
http://www.the-aperture.com/EE/photos/normal/IMG_8542.jpg
Up on the blocks
http://www.the-aperture.com/EE/photos/normal/IMG_8529.jpg
One slightly frustrated mechanic. Drive shaft problems for which there was no easy solution. Eight hours of labour later, the car was ready for the next day's racing
http://www.the-aperture.com/EE/photos/normal/IMG_8534.jpg
Pete W
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 15:05
Love the one of the mechanic.... Bet he wished he had stayed in bed :)
Pete
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 17:05
Reyland Cosworth always strikes a chord with Brit pistonheads...
http://www.the-aperture.com/EE/photos/normal/IMG_8573.jpg
Super sexy Viper. Love how it reflects the curbs here.
http://www.the-aperture.com/EE/photos/normal/IMG_8618.jpg
Fezzy ST locking it up
http://www.the-aperture.com/EE/photos/normal/IMG_8738.jpg
Zilly
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 17:11
great shots pete the funky angles make me feel a bit funny in one or two of them but al great none the less
Nigel Wallace
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 17:13
Guys
First of all great photos, I'll put some of mine up later
I have question for you.
I attended Brands today as the Time Attack photog, The photo on the front of the program is mine, Imagine my surprise when i saw it. I did not know it was being used , no one contacted me. Where do you think i stand from a copywrite point of view. Personally i think i am entitled to something but would want your opinions
cheers
Nigel
Pete
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 17:15
great shots pete the funky angles make me feel a bit funny in one or two of them but al great none the less
I have loads of straight ones. I'm just a sucker for detail, and the diagonal gives me more of it.
I'm just loving the huge sharpness, colour definition, and contrast of the 135L. I've hardly had to do anything to these shots apart from shrink them and apply a tiny amount of sharpening.
Zilly
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 17:18
wow impressive never tried a prime for motorsport pans like this must be tricky cause you have such a small window to get it right. impressive shots
how did the 5d fair in motorsports conditions
nigel if they didnt ask your permission you can pritty much taken em to the cleaners there has been lost of similar posts over in the business section they'll be able to help you more
Pete
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 17:18
Guys
First of all great photos, I'll put some of mine up later
I have question for you.
I attended Brands today as the Time Attack photog, The photo on the front of the program is mine, Imagine my surprise when i saw it. I did not know it was being used , no one contacted me. Where do you think i stand from a copywrite point of view. Personally i think i am entitled to something but would want your opinions
cheers
Nigel
Definite copyright infringment. I'd contact them and complain about the lack of permission. Although I guess it might depend on where they got the picture from (if you sold it to a stock agency, you might not have any comeback).
You also need to be sure than you can prove beyond any doubt that it's your picture.
Pete
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 17:22
wow impressive never tried a prime for motorsport pans like this must be tricky cause you have such a small window to get it right. impressive shots
how did the 5d fair in motorsports conditions
The inside of Druids gave me the right scope for the focal length (althout just a smidge too short for the apex huggers). The 135L is exceptionally fast in focussing, that and the 5D just eats up light. I only lost shots on the shake (shutter speed went down to the limits of non-IS handholding). I got enough keepers to keep me happy though.
GSH
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 17:27
Guys
First of all great photos, I'll put some of mine up later
I have question for you.
I attended Brands today as the Time Attack photog, The photo on the front of the program is mine, Imagine my surprise when i saw it. I did not know it was being used , no one contacted me. Where do you think i stand from a copywrite point of view. Personally i think i am entitled to something but would want your opinions
Were you signed on at the event at which the Cover shot was taken?
Nigel Wallace
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 17:32
Guys
thanks for the reply and sorry to hijack this post, yes i have the original photo and remember taking it earlier this year, I was signed on as official media for Time Attack
Does that help ? I don't want to make a major fuss over this if its going to cause me issues in the future with Brands and MSV but i feel that there is a principle issue here. I have not sold this picture for stock
Any advice would be grateful
cheers
Nigel
Pete
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 17:36
Guys
thanks for the reply and sorry to hijack this post, yes i have the original photo and remember taking it earlier this year, I was signed on as official media for Time Attack
Any advice would be grateful
cheers
Nigel
Never having been signed on for a media vest, I might be talking out of my bum. My immediate advise would be to look at any paperwork that you signed, there might be a clause in there where the circuit can use any of your shots as they see fit.
If you've signed away your rights in this way, then it's just a learning experience.
I didn't keep a copy of the programme, were you photo credited for the shot? I seem to remember the internal shots were.
GSH
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 17:46
Nigel, have replied via PM so as not to hijack this any further.
Pete,
Some nice shots there, however some of the tilting is a bit too extreme IMHO and 1 to 4 would have been a lot nicer if the car's didn't all have bits chopped off them.
I hope that mechanic doesn't see that shot...he'll hunt you down forever :D
Pete
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 17:55
Nigel, have replied via PM so as not to hijack this any further.
I didn't mind the hi-jack...
Many thanks Geoff for the kind words. Yep, the focal length was probably a bit long in those cases, I have more conventional angles though. I know that using a short tele prime is a bit unconventional in this circumstance, but I was really pleased by the sharpness of the shots it produced. Unfortunately, I wasn't signed off as media, so was restricted where I could place myself. Inside the start of the apex of Druids seemed to be the best spot.
It was my first go at anything like this, so I still have a great deal to learn.
Nigel Wallace
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 17:58
Pete
Thanks, appreciate it
Cheers
Nigel
GSH
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 18:06
I didn't mind the hi-jack...
Many thanks Geoff for the kind words. Yep, the focal length was probably a bit long in those cases, I have more conventional angles though. I know that using a short tele prime is a bit unconventional in this circumstance, but I was really pleased by the sharpness of the shots it produced. Unfortunately, I wasn't signed off as media, so was restricted where I could place myself. Inside the start of the apex of Druids seemed to be the best spot.
It was my first go at anything like this, so I still have a great deal to learn.
70-200 is pretty much ideal for the inside of Druids. Mine goes straight on the camera when i venture down to Brands from the frozen north and head for that particular spot.
Be careful when on the inside of Druids though. There's a rather dangerous creature called a "Dave_G" which lives under the bridge support and occasionally pops out and tries to persuade people to do pan shots...
;)
KennyG
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 19:19
The programs are printed by the clubs, not the circuit. Even those rare times where the circuit prints the program, pictures are usually supplied by the participatiing clubs. So, if you gave the picture to the club without restriction, and you were working on their behalf when it was taken, you have no comeback. I would however mention to them that advising you it was going to be used and giving the correct credit is a matter of courtesy at the very least.
khall
2nd of September 2007 (Sun), 22:13
Love the pictures, picture quality superb, just shows what a good lens can do. But have to say, I am not a fan of tilted pictures.
colinburke
3rd of September 2007 (Mon), 03:50
Great shots of some good close racing
Pete
3rd of September 2007 (Mon), 04:33
I do straight pans (well slow stir, really).
http://www.the-aperture.com/EE/photos/normal/IMG_8419.jpg
http://www.the-aperture.com/EE/photos/normal/IMG_8321.jpg
khall
3rd of September 2007 (Mon), 05:09
Thanks Pete for the posting, all top pictures, but the tilting just bugs me.
Sorry but that's just me.
Pete
3rd of September 2007 (Mon), 05:23
Thanks Pete for the posting, all top pictures, but the tilting just bugs me.
Sorry but that's just me.
Haha.. No, it's not just you, it's just about everyone!! It was just the easiest way to get the cars full in frame. Classic conflict between being a specatator and wanting to get up close and being a photographer. Looks like I chose wrong. Still bloody impressed by the performance of the lens though.
Claire
3rd of September 2007 (Mon), 10:29
Ooh, fun stuff. :) Can't be easy to shoot speeding cars!
Pete
3rd of September 2007 (Mon), 10:31
Ooh, fun stuff. :) Can't be easy to shoot speeding cars!
It gets fun when you're really close to them with a short telephoto!
Claire
3rd of September 2007 (Mon), 10:38
It gets fun when you're really close to them with a short telephoto!
yikes! I would be too darn scared. hehe
fi20100
3rd of September 2007 (Mon), 11:13
Damn Pete! Great shots!! :) But the look on the mechanic's face is priceless :)
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