IIlford Paper....

[ItsMike]

I love the way this classic pearl paper looks... Nice...

I picked up a package of 8.5X11 and 13X19

Good stuff!!!

[amonline]

Um, printer? Have you printed anything yet? Results?

[ItsMike]

I have an Epson 1280, I usually use the epson paper, I bought the IIlford sample pack and fell in love with the Smooth classic pearl paper..

I did a few portraits of my kids and they came out insanely great!!!.. Blows away the Epson premium glossy paper I use to use..


Just spreading the cheer of this stuff...

[amonline]

I couldn't find it... is that the Ultrachrome inks. (I have an R1800, that's why I ask) Where'd you pick the paper up?

I think it's the DURABrite or PictureMate, but it's vague: http://www.epson.com/pdf/Epson_Ink_Solutions.pdf

[ItsMike]

Check this place out...
http://www.berger-bros.com/page/BBCVD/CTGY/ILFORD-PRINTERSUPPLIES

This is where I got the paper.. They are local to me..

As for the printer.. Here is a pic I found online..

http://kevinandamanda.com/photos/scraproom/printer.jpg

[amonline]

No, I knew what printer, but Epson's vague on which ink. Is it something other than Ultrachrome. (it does makes a difference)

[Bobster]

yup bought some Ilford Galerie Classic Gloss the other day, takes a while to dry (24hrs) but it gives good results :)

[amonline]

I finally concluded your 1280 uses the Claria inks from these two documents:

http://www.epson.com/pdf/Epson_Ink_Solutions.pdf
http://www.epson.com/cmc_upload/0/000/035/905/Ink_PprCompChrt_14505R5.pdf

So, I'll pick up some of this paper sometime and report on it's compatibility/results with the R1800's Ultrachrome ink. ;)

[gcogger]

The 1280 uses dye inks but the R1800 uses pigment, which is an important difference.
The 1280 can print fine on the Ilford Galerie Classic or Smooth papers, although the print life won't be too good on the Smooth.
The Classic paper is not suitable for the R1800 (or any other pigmentink printer) - use the Smooth instead.

[amonline]

The 1280 uses dye inks but the R1800 uses pigment, which is an important difference.
The 1280 can print fine on the Ilford Galerie Classic or Smooth papers, although the print life won't be too good on the Smooth.
The Classic paper is not suitable for the R1800 (or any other pigmentink printer) - use the Smooth instead.
Where'd you get the info on the "classic vs smooth"? It doesn't jive with Ilford's side: http://www.ilford.com/en/products/consumer/pdf/CompatibilityChart.pdf

Just curious... and I believe you. Just looking for more info.

[Bobster]

that link doesn't list the Galerie range of papers..

information about the Galerie papers http://www.ilford.com/en/products/galerie/index.asp

[amonline]

that link doesn't list the Galerie range of papers..

information about the Galerie papers http://www.ilford.com/en/products/galerie/index.asp
Yea, that's for my 7800, but I thought we were discussing the R1800. I thought I read the Galerie papers were not for the R1800. ;)

Sorry if I missed something. I am rather interested in trying some of this pearl in my R1800. I think I'll hit CompUSA this week to get a small pack.

Edit: they do list it in the "settings area"... I guess I was mixing it up in the other section that didn't list it.

[amonline]

The Classic paper is not suitable for the R1800 (or any other pigmentink printer) - use the Smooth instead.
I was looking through the profiles and saw that Ilford does support the Classic Gloss and Pearl for the 1800. Are you just stating this as an opinion?

[Bobster]

if you click on the smooth link it gives you information ;) http://www.ilford.com/en/products/galerie/smooth/smoothMedia.asp

[amonline]

Yea, I got that... thanks. ;)

This is why you guys are confusing matters... this is what THEY say under the "smooth" area:

For optimum quality when using high gloss or gloss media the use of dye inks are recommended. If pigment inks are used they may lead to a matting of the surface in areas of high ink load.

That contradicts what you guys are saying. ;)

[ItsMike]

Sorry I haven't checked this thread, But Yes You are correct on the Type of ink in my 1280, It is a Dye ink and that is recommended to the paper I use.. The Pigment ink will produce the results that I get..

[rgs]

I have used a lot of the Ilford Pearl but prefer Epson Premium Luster. It just sings for me. An Ilford print, although very good, looks cheap side by side with the Epson.

This is especially odd since I have not been happy with Epson printers and prefer Canon. I look for printers that can serve double duty as an office and a photo printer and the ones that can really do that are a little rare.

I am presently using a new Canon iP4500 (Pixma ink). This is only a three color plus photo black and pigment text black setup but it works great. Before this new machine, I was using an i860 which is the same setup with older ink sets.

RGS
www.myrsphoto.com

[amonline]

^ Good to know... I'm trying out a bunch of new papers. I've been using Premium Glossy for years now and have never tried anything else. Shame on me.

[Tony-S]

^ Good to know... I'm trying out a bunch of new papers. I've been using Premium Glossy for years now and have never tried anything else. Shame on me.

Have you tried Red River's papers? I switched to their Arctic Polar Satin and Gloss about 6 months ago (from IGS Pearl and Gloss). Very nice papers.

[markbluemica]

I have used a lot of the Ilford Pearl but prefer Epson Premium Luster. It just sings for me. An Ilford print, although very good, looks cheap side by side with the Epson.

This is especially odd since I have not been happy with Epson printers and prefer Canon. I look for printers that can serve double duty as an office and a photo printer and the ones that can really do that are a little rare.

I am presently using a new Canon iP4500 (Pixma ink). This is only a three color plus photo black and pigment text black setup but it works great. Before this new machine, I was using an i860 which is the same setup with older ink sets.

RGS
www.myrsphoto.com (http://www.myrsphoto.com)


I totaly disagree i have rolls of premium luster and ilford smoth pearl for my 4000 and side by side comparison prints theres no noticable differance apart from the price tag of course.

I only run smooth pearl now for my prints in roll and a4 paper

mark

[canonpink]

Ilford Smooth Pearl. No substitutes.

[gcogger]

I was looking through the profiles and saw that Ilford does support the Classic Gloss and Pearl for the 1800. Are you just stating this as an opinion?

It seems pretty clear to me from Bobster's link (http://www.ilford.com/en/products/galerie/index.asp):

"GALERIE CLASSIC papers are only compatible with dye based printers"
"GALERIE SMOOTH papers are compatible with dye as well as pigment based inkjet printers"

The 1800 is a pigment-based printer...

[Tony-S]

Ilford Smooth Pearl. No substitutes.

Have you tried Red River? How about any of the other manufacturers out there? There are quite a few of them.

[amonline]

It seems pretty clear to me from Bobster's link (http://www.ilford.com/en/products/galerie/index.asp):

"GALERIE CLASSIC papers are only compatible with dye based printers"
"GALERIE SMOOTH papers are compatible with dye as well as pigment based inkjet printers"

The 1800 is a pigment-based printer...
Um, yea... I know that. That's not what they were saying though. ;)

[gcogger]

Um, yea... I know that. That's not what they were saying though. ;)

OK, I'm confused :confused: According to Ilford, on the link posted, "GALERIE CLASSIC papers are only compatible with dye based printers", therefore they're not compatible with the R1800 (which is what I said originally). I'm not sure what you're trying to say...

[amonline]

Just to make it simple... we all have it "kind of" right.

In one area Ilford says "If pigment inks are used they may lead to a matting of the surface in areas of high ink load."

Then, in another are (the link you provided) they say "GALERIE SMOOTH papers are compatible with dye as well as pigment based inkjet printers".

That's why I said way back there I believe you. I just wanted the link to where it said that.

IMO, they are just trying to sell to everyone with their wishy-washy wording. That's why I said I'd pick up a little of everything and run some tests. No harm - no foul. ;)

[ItsMike]

Ilford Smooth Pearl. No substitutes.



Hells Yea!:evil:

[gcogger]

Just to make it simple... we all have it "kind of" right.

In one area Ilford says "If pigment inks are used they may lead to a matting of the surface in areas of high ink load."

Then, in another are (the link you provided) they say "GALERIE SMOOTH papers are compatible with dye as well as pigment based inkjet printers".

That's why I said way back there I believe you. I just wanted the link to where it said that.

IMO, they are just trying to sell to everyone with their wishy-washy wording. That's why I said I'd pick up a little of everything and run some tests. No harm - no foul. ;)

I really wouldn't bother with the Classic papers, as you'll just be wasting money. Nowhere do Ilford claim that they can be used with pigment printers - in fact they state the opposite. Still, I guess it's not my money :)

The comment about matting (for the Smooth papers) is a completely separate issue. It's just a general limitation of pigment ink printers on gloss media, and applies to any comaptible gloss or semi-gloss papers, not just the Ilford stuff. Of course, the R1800 applies a gloss 'top-coat' so it shouldn't be a problem for you :)

[canonpink]

Have you tried Red River? How about any of the other manufacturers out there? There are quite a few of them.

That's a good point; I am simply partial to when I find something that does the job very well (all things considered), I tend to recommend it (i.e. Canon 5D, L lenses, RRS, etc...).

The reason I have found Ilford Smooth Pearl so good is not only because of its performance on my Canon i9900, but it is accessible at my local camera store in the sizes I need.

Someone else may find another paper better suited due to their printer, availability, inks, etc...; no doubt.

CP

[blackviolet]

same here - i print 99% on smooth pearl (r2400). ocasionally i do some pure matte. but the smooth pearl paper feels and looks amazing.

[amonline]

I bought and tried the "Premium Photo Pearl Paper"... simply amazing. It's extremely remeniscent of traditional high quality prints, at a heavier weight. Printing is incredible. Thanks for the idea!

Oh, this paper isn't even listed on their site. ???

[canonpink]

You know, even though I subscribe to the idea that don't fix it if it isn't broken, I have heard that Moab has come good paper, but I am a bit skeptical to try it. Ilford just works so good.