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tonylong
9th of September 2009 (Wed), 16:00
Hmm, maybe it's just the darker tone of the background showing the inherent noise. Maybe...sometimes skies show up noise more easily.

rohicks
12th of September 2009 (Sat), 00:12
Purdue University from topside.
Ross Ade near the middle there as you can see.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3450/3911612700_39aebf63af_o.jpg

9/11 - Never forget.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3501/3910830579_7cefc71eed_o.jpg

KayakPhotos
12th of September 2009 (Sat), 00:13
I really like this!


9/11 - Never forget.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3501/3910830579_7cefc71eed_o.jpg

rohicks
12th of September 2009 (Sat), 00:31
I really like this!

:) thanks.
Was apart of a tribute on Purdue's campus today.

Andy Favors
12th of September 2009 (Sat), 08:39
I agree, awesome shot.

_aravena
12th of September 2009 (Sat), 09:57
Ok, so I just too this out to a concert and I'll be heading back tonight for part two. Expect much!!!

S.Horton
12th of September 2009 (Sat), 22:04
http://midnightblue.smugmug.com/photos/172635152_YdQJQ-L.jpg

Eagle
12th of September 2009 (Sat), 22:39
Nice Hawk. How much of a crop is it?

tdodd
13th of September 2009 (Sun), 04:23
50D + 100-400, 50% crop....

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_4_R8TkwT74w/Sqyl2OFI0BI/AAAAAAABJ8o/t5zGtWoFfpU/s800/20090912_104352_LR.jpg

Burnaby
13th of September 2009 (Sun), 05:18
How do you get dragonfly to hold still (in a manner of speaking) for you, Tim? Or, do you just shoot a broad area, and hope for the best? I haven't had much luck with them, so please tell me it just takes patience... :-)

S.Horton
13th of September 2009 (Sun), 07:33
Nice Hawk. How much of a crop is it?

I think that's just a bit shy of 100%. That's one of my wife's shots from 2006 in Duck, NC.

tdodd
13th of September 2009 (Sun), 07:35
This guy was flitting around within a fairly small area -maybe 10' square or so - and kept repeatedly hanging for a few seconds - maybe up to five - in the same spot, before moving on.

I had the camera on a tripod, with my new gimbal head :) and focused manually. I gave it a try with AF but it went straight to the background, as the dragonfly was too small in the frame for the AF to pick it up. What you see above is a 50% crop, so the insect was really quite small in the frame before cropping heavily. I had to get the focus approximately correct and then hunt the thing with the lens and quickly find focus before he moved off. I'm not sure how many shots I took in all - maybe 20-30 - but this is probably the best of the sharp ones. So I guess it's a combination of patience, luck and dare I say a little skill. :)

Here is the full frame, and an example from another area in which I was shooting....

tdodd
13th of September 2009 (Sun), 07:42
One more, just to show it was not a fluke....

and an easier one, taken a few weeks ago. Despite the lighting this was taken during daytime with no flash.

Andy Favors
13th of September 2009 (Sun), 12:52
Dragonflies are so fun to shoot.

stonyzmom
13th of September 2009 (Sun), 13:59
http://midnightblue.smugmug.com/photos/172635152_YdQJQ-L.jpg

I think that's an osprey, isn't it? They are amazing.

Geejay
13th of September 2009 (Sun), 14:53
Here's a few I took with a 100-400mm IS while my Sigma 70-200 was away for repair..

http://www.slkworld.com/members/geejay-albums-few-more-le-mans-09-picture803-lola-mazda-40th.jpg

http://www.slkworld.com/members/geejay-albums-few-more-le-mans-09-picture801-orca-aim-5th.jpg

http://www.slkworld.com/members/geejay-albums-le-mans-2009-picture794-sir-stirling-moss.jpg

http://www.slkworld.com/members/geejay-albums-le-mans-2009-picture798-audi-1-3rd.jpg

Eagle
13th of September 2009 (Sun), 15:04
I think that's an osprey, isn't it? They are amazing.
After he said where it was taken I looked again and it is an osprey.

RAW-Shooter
13th of September 2009 (Sun), 22:48
Nice Hawk. How much of a crop is it?

It's an Osprey actually...ooops I did not see the last post. Never mind

Goincarcrazy
14th of September 2009 (Mon), 16:04
I'm curious if anyone has used a B+W MRC CPL on their 100-400L. I ask because I thought this was suppossed to be among the top of the line filters, but I get massive amounts of ghosting with this lens with the CPL on (for example the whites from a bright object that is on a dark background tends to spread out in all directions causing the details to fuzz over with light).

Just wondering if anyone else had this problem with this filter or any other filter for that matter.

FlyingPhotog
14th of September 2009 (Mon), 16:08
I'm curious if anyone has used a B+W MRC CPL on their 100-400L. I ask because I thought this was suppossed to be among the top of the line filters, but I get massive amounts of ghosting with this lens with the CPL on (for example the whites from a bright object that is on a dark background tends to spread out in all directions causing the details to fuzz over with light).

Just wondering if anyone else had this problem with this filter or any other filter for that matter.


There have been several posts over the past couple of years where suspect copies suddenly became much, much better when shot naked.

EDIT: Some 100-400 (for some reason) do not seem to take filters well.

Burnaby
14th of September 2009 (Mon), 16:18
I use B+W's Kaesemann CPL on my fairly recent 100-400 with no issues to date.

Any sample shots?

DragonSpeed
14th of September 2009 (Mon), 16:37
Doubles almost as a "macro" lens, although shooting flowers from 6+ feet looks a little strange ;)

http://www.fotothing.com/photos/d20/d20d61db1cc75d1918d9865d6218539a_cf1.jpg

Goincarcrazy
14th of September 2009 (Mon), 16:39
I'll throw a couple up later to give an example. I think mine might be one of those that doesn't like filters.

JohnnyG
14th of September 2009 (Mon), 18:55
My 100-400 or myself don't like filters of any kind so this is one more great reason not to allow one!

_aravena
14th of September 2009 (Mon), 21:03
A taste of Rock the Universe.

Seven Stories Up
http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v4/p262430087-4.jpg

Fireflight
http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v3/p497123759-4.jpg

Pillar
http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v1/p787358538-4.jpg

Switchfoot
http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v2/p744681881-4.jpg

Hawk Nelson
http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v2/p621048065-4.jpg

tobyMac
http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v3/p630744105-4.jpg

Third Day
http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v3/p687207901-4.jpg

Eagle
14th of September 2009 (Mon), 21:39
Nice shots.

People that say the 100-400 isn't any good in low light need to see those.

_aravena
14th of September 2009 (Mon), 21:45
Thanks! :) I actually ended up shooting for Fireflight so I'm trying to get those done fast. There are other 100-400L concert photos in here I took. Links to the albums.

http://www.lastshotphotography.com/lonestar
http://www.lastshotphotography.com/rocktheuniverse07
http://www.lastshotphotography.com/rocktheuniverse09

Goincarcrazy
14th of September 2009 (Mon), 22:33
Great concert pics! WOW!

Alright, here are a couple samples:

Without any filter at all:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b2/goingcarcrazy/WithoutFilter.jpg

With B+W MRC CPL:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b2/goingcarcrazy/WithFilter.jpg?t=1252981918

Burnaby
15th of September 2009 (Tue), 02:20
I use CPLs exclusively on crystal clear days with the sun at 90 degrees to the FOV. The above looks like haze or pollution, and in this situation, the CPL filter is just a useless ND filter. Haze & pollution refractively disperse sunlight and cause ghosting on your images. Haze filters on the other hand, reduce excessive blue by absorbing UV light and eliminate haze which tends to wash out color and image clarity.

stu46
15th of September 2009 (Tue), 02:42
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2438/3921420583_ef218d0a6d_o.jpg

dinny66
15th of September 2009 (Tue), 03:00
Nice Shots! Are these at Lancing Beach Green? (You can almost see my house in the background :lol:)

I keep meaning to get down there and have a go at shooting these guys, just seems there's always something else to do!

Fancy a meet sometime?

Cheers

Mike

First time out with this lens, think it will take a bit of time to get used to it but loving it so far.

Pics taken with the 350D but now have a 50D as well, so I got a new camera and lens to learn...:D

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q234/rolyratman/Sealane%20Aug%2009/IMG_0149.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q234/rolyratman/Sealane%20Aug%2009/IMG_0013.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q234/rolyratman/Sealane%20Aug%2009/IMG_0121.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q234/rolyratman/Sealane%20Aug%2009/IMG_0017.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q234/rolyratman/Sealane%20Aug%2009/IMG_0006.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q234/rolyratman/Sealane%20Aug%2009/IMG_0002.jpg

Goincarcrazy
15th of September 2009 (Tue), 08:26
I use CPLs exclusively on crystal clear days with the sun at 90 degrees to the FOV. The above looks like haze or pollution, and in this situation, the CPL filter is just a useless ND filter. Haze & pollution refractively disperse sunlight and cause ghosting on your images. Haze filters on the other hand, reduce excessive blue by absorbing UV light and eliminate haze which tends to wash out color and image clarity.

Sure enough, it was quite a humid day out, but I surely wouldn't expect the CPL to make it WORSE. The first pic with no filter at all, although still not great, is night and day compared to the "with filter" shot.

rohicks
15th of September 2009 (Tue), 09:54
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3471/3922339861_5b403e86ea.jpg

peterbj7
15th of September 2009 (Tue), 13:06
For environmental reasons I keep a filter on my 100-400 all the time. Haven't noticed any deleterious effect.

Canajun
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 01:16
I'm still getting use to my copy. I can't seem to get the right ISO levels. I gotta be honest, there were times when I was tempted to grab my 70-200 F4 IS + 1.4x TC

I like this shot tho :D
http://www.gregorio.ca/eyeboll/archives/640xWildlife/IMG_1157.jpg

tonylong
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 01:54
There have been several posts over the past couple of years where suspect copies suddenly became much, much better when shot naked.

I've done this with some nice results, but it's only when she's naked as well.




Oh, am I in the wrong thread:)?

Cannoneric
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 03:15
With 1.4x Extender about 50% crop
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/566/lj1k46582800.jpg

FlyingPhotog
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 03:18
I'm still getting use to my copy. I can't seem to get the right ISO levels. I gotta be honest, there were times when I was tempted to grab my 70-200 F4 IS + 1.4x TC

If you find yourself wide open (f/5.6 @ 400mm) and you still aren't quite getting the shutter speed you want, don't be afraid to bump your ISO to 200 or 400 even.

I've shot mine in daylight using ISO 200 to keep the shutter speed very, very high for capturing jets.

Gotta use all the tools available. ;)

DragonSpeed
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 04:13
I'm still getting use to my copy. I can't seem to get the right ISO levels. I gotta be honest, there were times when I was tempted to grab my 70-200 F4 IS + 1.4x TC

I like this shot tho :D
http://www.gregorio.ca/eyeboll/archives/640xWildlife/IMG_1157.jpg

Hey Canajun!!! Good to see you virtually, after our physical meet shooting these guys...

Here's one of mine:
http://www.fotothing.com/photos/c16/c1678551e25435ac0b8dabc80558d388_1f5.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dragonspeed/sets/72157622228154035)

stu46
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 04:14
USAF Thunderbirds doing their survey flight. This isn't easy.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2617/3928539350_4bca55e800_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stu46/3928539350/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3437/3927756929_ed2f8cb96d_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stu46/3927756929/)

tdodd
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 04:40
I'm still getting use to my copy. I can't seem to get the right ISO levels. I gotta be honest, there were times when I was tempted to grab my 70-200 F4 IS + 1.4x TC
Can you explain that comment about ISO levels. If you were to use a 70-200/4 with a 1.4X it would turn into 98-280/5.6 lens, so as far as ISO is concerend, I'm not seeing a striking difference between the two lenses.

I can shoot my 100-400 quite well at 100 ISO, or 1600 ISO. No problem. 3200 ISO looks a little rough but that has nothing to do with the lens :) Expose well and high ISOs need not be a problem unless you pixel peep. IMO a slightly noisey image is better to work with than a slightly blurry one.

Here's a 33% crop from my 50D and 100-400 at 400mm, 1/1000, f/7.1, 1600 ISO....

Goincarcrazy
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 15:09
I'm a HORRIBLE pixel peeper so I try to stay at ISO 320 or lower, but even then, I have no real problem. I love this lens for air shows and don't leave ISO 100, even for the jets (although flyingphotog, I'm going to try bumping my shutter speed up a smidge and see if my images come out any better for jets).

And for anyone who cares, I think I may have found what caused the ghosting with the B+W MRC CPL on this lens. Some B+W filters apparently have a waviness to the coating. B+W sates that this will not affect the image in anyway, and this is true, even when using a 24-105, no affect. I believe the waviness DOES become an issue when at above 300mm. I ordered a B+W Kaesemann MRC CPL that has a smooth coating, so I'll let you know if the problem gets resolved.

KenjiS
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 16:10
http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac117/KitsunetsukiPhotography/IMG_2861-Edit-6.jpg

Squirrel anyone? :)

How bout a cardinal?

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac117/KitsunetsukiPhotography/IMG_2816-Edit-3.jpg

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac117/KitsunetsukiPhotography/IMG_2837-Edit-4.jpg

Double Negative
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 16:11
Squirrel anyone? :)

Kill the tree rat! :evil:

KenjiS
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 16:20
Kill the tree rat! :evil:

Lol, they dont bug people here :)

Oh and those were all done at ISO1600 for the record

DragonSpeed
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 16:29
Kill the tree rat! :evil:
Bushy tailed tree rat with good PR :evil:

Double Negative
18th of September 2009 (Fri), 09:38
Lol, they dont bug people here :)

They are the bane of the urban dweller. Digging up flowers and bushes, digging holes in lawns, trashing bird feeders...

They're plenty cute - in someone else's neighborhood. :)

tonylong
18th of September 2009 (Fri), 12:00
I'm a HORRIBLE pixel peeper so I try to stay at ISO 320 or lower, but even then, I have no real problem. I love this lens for air shows and don't leave ISO 100, even for the jets (although flyingphotog, I'm going to try bumping my shutter speed up a smidge and see if my images come out any better for jets).

And for anyone who cares, I think I may have found what caused the ghosting with the B+W MRC CPL on this lens. Some B+W filters apparently have a waviness to the coating. B+W sates that this will not affect the image in anyway, and this is true, even when using a 24-105, no affect. I believe the waviness DOES become an issue when at above 300mm. I ordered a B+W Kaesemann MRC CPL that has a smooth coating, so I'll let you know if the problem gets resolved.


I shoot at ISO 1600 all the time -- it's pretty much a fact of life for outdoor photography in a variety of conditions so you just get used to it.

Yes, if you crop very close you see some noise -- not from the higher ISO, by the way, but because in low light you are underexposing and need the high ISO to boost the exposure but you have more noise. Just know that it is better to boost the ISO than to underexpose the image, so if it helps you to get the shutter speed you need, go for it.

Also, I've gotten used to keeping the 1.4x TC on my lens for wildlife shooting because 400mm just isn't often enough. If you get more magnification then you won't have to crop those low light pictures as much so the noise won't be as noticeable. However, that puts your aperture at f/8, which means either MF or having a 1 series body for AF. Choices, choices...

Canajun
18th of September 2009 (Fri), 14:25
apologies for the late replies.

@Jay,
I'm shooting Av so I am not even worried about the shutter speed. I am more worried at the amout of noise I was getting when I varried my ISO settings. I can't seem to get the right ISO. check out the water in my shot of the Yellowlegs [1/4000 f5.6 ISO400]. It was overcast but bright.

@DragonSpeed,
Nice to meet you ere at the board. I enjoyed our conversation. Nice shot.
See ya around. I think there's another POTN member that actually pointed me to where the Pileated woody was located. I'm planning on coming back in a couple of weeks. I'm hoping the Snow geese are back with the entire entourage:D


@tdodd,
sorry for the confusion. I did not mean to imply technical differences between the two glass. I just meant, I am tempted to go back to a lens that I am more comfortable with. At the moment the 70-200 f4 has a better keeper rate than the dust pump :-). But I'm not ready to give up yet. I just got the darn thing :-p Just going thru the learning curb. The Yellowlegs is a good example, I thought ISO 400 was good enough until I looked at the image at home. I think I'll follow most the advice here, which is not to be scared to bump the ISO to 800 or 1600. Thanks for the advice tho.

-g-
18th of September 2009 (Fri), 14:32
I think there's another POTN member that actually pointed me to where the Pileated woody was located. I'm planning on coming back in a couple of weeks. I'm hoping the Snow geese are back with the entire entourage

Where would that be?

DragonSpeed
18th of September 2009 (Fri), 14:44
Where would that be?
Well - there was the guy in my backyard this morning :)

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=754443

Although I think he was referring to a location at Reifel Bird Sanctuary

-g-
18th of September 2009 (Fri), 14:53
Well - there was the guy in my backyard this morning :)

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=754443

Although I think he was referring to a location at Reifel Bird Sanctuary

My back yard isn't big enough for that. I do get Peacocks on the front yard and on top of the houses here though.

I went to Reifel last winter some time but didn't come back with much. I did see the Snow Geese fly away though.

stu46
19th of September 2009 (Sat), 02:41
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2485/3933625862_380d817900_o.jpg

G35Driver
19th of September 2009 (Sat), 06:00
Nice Shot Stu, yours is nice and clear mine's did not come very good.

stu46
19th of September 2009 (Sat), 06:03
Thanks, Luis! Too bad I couldn't meet you guys today. Are you going to the air show?

Headshotzx
19th of September 2009 (Sat), 13:22
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2485/3933625862_380d817900_o.jpg

Just faved it on your flickr. Sharpest shot I've seen today, and great timing.

Goincarcrazy
19th of September 2009 (Sat), 13:22
A couple from yesterday:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3467/3933191848_867c7bb57f_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2569/3932502727_8cc238f5b9_b.jpg

Eagle
19th of September 2009 (Sat), 13:53
This is not directed at any one person.

I get a kick out of how people say "that shot is so sharp" "I have to get this lens" "sharpest shot I've ever seen" and they're judging it on a 1024 x 768 pic. Then they turn around and judge other shots blown up 100%-200% and bitch about the quality. Have to laugh all the time.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Goes for any lens/camera combo not just this thread.

Andy Favors
20th of September 2009 (Sun), 16:48
Took this one earlier this morning.......

http://www.andyfavors.com/photos/655247778_xGrcp-L.jpg

KenjiS
20th of September 2009 (Sun), 17:56
A couple from yesterday:


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2569/3932502727_8cc238f5b9_b.jpg


Hey that answered a question i had earlier ;)

Saw one of those over my house earlier, Sadly my camera was in the house empty at the time or id have gotten a pic..

Goincarcrazy
20th of September 2009 (Sun), 22:56
Yup, certainly can't miss that paint job! My dad is retired coast guard so I'm used to the sight of these, but for anyone unfamiliar to an orange helicopter would be wondering about it, I'm sure.

stu46
21st of September 2009 (Mon), 00:20
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3473/3940126654_8b41864050_o.jpg

krb
21st of September 2009 (Mon), 00:23
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3473/3940126654_8b41864050_o.jpg
Now -that- is a shot to print and hang on a wall. Very nice.

stu46
21st of September 2009 (Mon), 00:23
Thanks!

FlyingPhotog
21st of September 2009 (Mon), 00:25
Since we're doing a Thunderbirds theme:

http://jcbeckman.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p685523658-4.jpg
20D + 100-400 @ 100mm

sleepo
21st of September 2009 (Mon), 02:45
Duck shot! 100-400@400mm wide open, ISO 800:

https://steve.st/potn/100-400/duck.jpg

100% crop:

https://steve.st/potn/100-400/duck-100.jpg

Great lens but I resent it sucking dust onto my 5D2 sensor.

Goincarcrazy
21st of September 2009 (Mon), 08:51
I don't think the lens is capable of sucking dust into the camera body, and I don't think it's ever been proven that it even sucks dust into itself.

tdodd
21st of September 2009 (Mon), 08:56
...

Double Negative
22nd of September 2009 (Tue), 16:43
A duck and a swan... This thread is complete! :p

Burnaby
23rd of September 2009 (Wed), 04:31
Astrophotography is not this lens' strong suit, but Jupiter was dancing with four moons tonight, so I couldn't resist capturing it. To control noise I increased the contrast and dropped the brightness. That's about it...

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u89/LS460/IMG_5064C.jpg

Goincarcrazy
23rd of September 2009 (Wed), 08:30
wow! I gotta say that's still pretty cool!

WaFp
24th of September 2009 (Thu), 02:05
i'll play, but we'll switch the Thunderbirds theme to a Blue Angles theme

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2504/3946962308_e47190d960_b.jpg

wish i had slowed the shutter a little, the shot was at 1/500s

Goincarcrazy
24th of September 2009 (Thu), 09:48
Alright, I'll play too! haha

http://fc09.deviantart.com/fs38/i/2008/327/3/c/Upon_Angel__s_Wings_by_NC_Photography.jpg

http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs39/i/2009/029/e/b/Seeing_Triple_by_NC_Photography.jpg

http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs38/i/2008/327/c/a/Hey_Hey_Hey____by_NC_Photography.jpg

stu46
24th of September 2009 (Thu), 09:53
Thunderbirds!:lol:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2612/3943441705_4fe431c371_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2475/3944220382_84af1bb543_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/3943441903_c177463792_o.jpg

WaFp
24th of September 2009 (Thu), 12:23
another one of the Blues

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3428/3947053030_9ea68cef83_b.jpg

stonyzmom
24th of September 2009 (Thu), 13:41
another one of the Blues

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3428/3947053030_9ea68cef83_b.jpg

Were you at the Reno air races over the weekend by any chance? My hubby was there.

Andy Favors
24th of September 2009 (Thu), 18:02
I wish I could play, but the only jet pictures I have are some F-16's and A-10's taken with my 70-200 F4 non IS Oh well, :D Nice pics.

_aravena
24th of September 2009 (Thu), 18:04
Ditto...well, my Sigma 70-200F2.8. No jet shots with the 100-400L. Oddly enough i've only rented it for what most would deem it unfit to be used for, concerts.

Burnaby
24th of September 2009 (Thu), 18:54
Oddly enough i've only rented it for what most would deem it unfit to be used for, concerts.Concerts by Jefferson Airplane, Aerosmith, B-52s, The Eagles or Led Zeppelin might qualify as fit subjects... :)

_aravena
24th of September 2009 (Thu), 19:20
Unfortunately none of them...though an Eagles or Led Zeppelin concert would be appreciated in my area! :D Saw Aerosmith, no "pro" cameras allowed.

MikeFairbanks
24th of September 2009 (Thu), 21:15
I'm excited. I just ordered my Dust Pump tonight. Ships out tomorrow. Don't know when I'll get it, of course, but it's ordered and paid for. Woohoo.

WaFp
24th of September 2009 (Thu), 21:54
Were you at the Reno air races over the weekend by any chance? My hubby was there.

I was! It has been a family tradition since I was 4. My dad hasn't missed a year since they moved it to Stead Field. I've missed three years (only when Uncle Sam says I can't go) out of the last 28. Got up their on Friday and left after the sun was down on Sunday. I had a blast!

Burnaby
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 04:36
Unfortunately none of them...though an Eagles or Led Zeppelin concert would be appreciated in my area! :D Saw Aerosmith, no "pro" cameras allowed.Ahem, what I was alluding to was the ideal use of the 100-400 being aviation or birds, hence the bands whose names mirror this. Catch my drift? ;) :)

Headshotzx
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 04:55
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2350/3619580946_59d0f27817_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3401/3618766839_1976361be7_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3387/3618761125_10503b82da_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3325/3619577282_e5d3f2d2e9_b.jpg

Andy Favors
27th of September 2009 (Sun), 17:16
Here's a few I got today in Boxley Valley in NW Arkansas

http://www.andyfavors.com/photos/662508911_PbuZw-L.jpg

http://www.andyfavors.com/photos/662441414_T7zRi-L.jpg

http://www.andyfavors.com/photos/662440669_aWyQJ-L.jpg

http://www.andyfavors.com/photos/662488363_j5r94-L.jpg

Goincarcrazy
27th of September 2009 (Sun), 17:20
Just picked up a Canon 1.4x II TC. Anything I should expect between it and my 100-400L? Well, besides the manual focus only (only got a 50D). Can't wait to try combo out!

stonyzmom
28th of September 2009 (Mon), 23:13
The peanut whore......:)

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5710/bluejayo.jpg

Goincarcrazy
28th of September 2009 (Mon), 23:42
WOW! that is a stunning shot! how close were you to him? I assume he's a pretty tame little fellow.

stonyzmom
29th of September 2009 (Tue), 00:00
WOW! that is a stunning shot! how close were you to him? I assume he's a pretty tame little fellow.


Thanks! I was probably 20 feet away. I put the peanuts on the deck rail at my cabin and then sit back and watch the show. They're pretty bold, but they're quick!

Goincarcrazy
29th of September 2009 (Tue), 00:03
A relative of that little guy (common blue jay) dove at me when I was testing out my 180L. I'd agree they're pretty bold! haha.

A young White Ibis trolling for lunch taken today, 100-400L with 1.4II TC, ISO 400:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2596/3964300713_3e3fb93525_b.jpg

djvkool
29th of September 2009 (Tue), 01:16
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2350/3619580946_59d0f27817_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3401/3618766839_1976361be7_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3387/3618761125_10503b82da_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3325/3619577282_e5d3f2d2e9_b.jpg

Absolutely LOVED the Giraffe shot, the best of the bunch

_aravena
29th of September 2009 (Tue), 10:13
http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v3/p939106557-4.jpg

And to once again show the awesomeness that is the 100-400L at concerts.
http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v4/p682129035-4.jpg

tagvestibule
29th of September 2009 (Tue), 20:16
http://joshuasarner.smugmug.com/photos/665378353_fFzjk-XL.jpg

http://joshuasarner.smugmug.com/photos/665378367_3yysr-XL.jpg

SteveJa
29th of September 2009 (Tue), 22:46
http://excalibursword.mine.nu:8081/sharepictures/img_6874dpp.jpg


http://excalibursword.mine.nu:8081/sharepictures/img_7190dpp.jpg

KenjiS
1st of October 2009 (Thu), 02:23
^- nice

I havnt added anything in a while...

This first one i have no clue what happened with, its very very soft...Cant figure it out...I think the IS didnt completely settle before i shot it

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac117/KitsunetsukiPhotography/IMG_2911-Edit.jpg

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac117/KitsunetsukiPhotography/IMG_2994-Edit.jpg

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac117/KitsunetsukiPhotography/IMG_3093-Edit.jpg

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac117/KitsunetsukiPhotography/IMG_3097-Edit.jpg

^- Those last two were ISO1600 too :)

cfibanez
1st of October 2009 (Thu), 05:29
^- nice

I havnt added anything in a while...

This first one i have no clue what happened with, its very very soft...Cant figure it out...I think the IS didnt completely settle before i shot it

^- Those last two were ISO1600 too :)

Nice shots Kenji. I've been waiting for an upgrade to this lens much too long. I have a trip to the Galapagos coming up next month and I am thinking to just give up the wait and pick up this lens in its current form. (I have realized that Canon would not upgrade this lens until I get the current version ... ;)). My idea is to bring the 40D with a WA on it, and a 7D with the 100-400 for BIF, wildlife, etc. You shoot crop and post a lot in this thread. Do you (still) recommend this lens? Thanks.

cfibanez
1st of October 2009 (Thu), 05:33
Headshotzx, were these taken at the Singapore zoo? Nice shots. Did you really use the Dust Pump? You don't list it in your gear list.

truman
1st of October 2009 (Thu), 06:13
from the dust pump

DragonSpeed
1st of October 2009 (Thu), 10:30
Nice shots Kenji. I've been waiting for an upgrade to this lens much too long. I have a trip to the Galapagos coming up next month and I am thinking to just give up the wait and pick up this lens in its current form. (I have realized that Canon would not upgrade this lens until I get the current version ... ;)). My idea is to bring the 40D with a WA on it, and a 7D with the 100-400 for BIF, wildlife, etc. You shoot crop and post a lot in this thread. Do you (still) recommend this lens? Thanks.
That sounds like a great combo! I took the dust pump on safari in Tanzania with a 50D body. Loved it. The 7D would ROCK with it I think.

stonyzmom
1st of October 2009 (Thu), 11:28
From the dust pump........

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6576/22095702.jpg

KenjiS
1st of October 2009 (Thu), 15:37
Nice shots Kenji. I've been waiting for an upgrade to this lens much too long. I have a trip to the Galapagos coming up next month and I am thinking to just give up the wait and pick up this lens in its current form. (I have realized that Canon would not upgrade this lens until I get the current version ... ;)). My idea is to bring the 40D with a WA on it, and a 7D with the 100-400 for BIF, wildlife, etc. You shoot crop and post a lot in this thread. Do you (still) recommend this lens? Thanks.

Oh yes very much so, And for comparisons sake, I did own the 150-500 Sigma as well briefly..its a good lens as well, but personally I still feel the 100-400 is a better lens in most situations :) the 100-400 is honestly my favorite lens most of the time, Its just sad that over the winter its likely to sit in my house most of the time because i wont have many subjects to use it on :( My only complaints with it so far are actually related to it making me seriously want to upgrade my 30D..but thats not the lens' fault..

I've used my 10-20 and my 100-400 as a 1-2 combo before and been quite happy :) I cant wait till i get my 15-85 [or what ever replaces my 28-75 in my lineup] and see how the combo works...

Headshotzx
2nd of October 2009 (Fri), 04:04
Absolutely LOVED the Giraffe shot, the best of the bunch

Thanks ;)

buddhasghost
3rd of October 2009 (Sat), 02:11
50D, ISO 500, 400mm, 1/1000th sec @ f/5.6
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3083/3615553723_d31e25d7ea_o.jpg
50D, ISO 400, 400mm, 1/250th sec @ f/6.3
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3606/3693587014_fe3d6bd5b0_o.jpg
50D, ISO 1600, 400mm, 1/1000th sec @ f/5.6
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3591/3615584749_18c2a9ce42_o.jpg

cfibanez
3rd of October 2009 (Sat), 02:22
Very nice shots! Camera? How much did you crop them?

buddhasghost
3rd of October 2009 (Sat), 03:15
Very nice shots! Camera? How much did you crop them?

Thanks for the compliment.

I added in the shooting data. As far as cropping, the first two were cropped by roughly half of their frames and then reduced to post. The last one I cropped out approx 2/3rds the frame and reduced to post.

peterbj7
3rd of October 2009 (Sat), 12:57
Thanks for talking about cropping in terms that I and others actually understand!

I don't think I will ever understand the term "100% crop" as it's so logically absurd.

pixelbasher
3rd of October 2009 (Sat), 20:01
I haven't put any up for a while, here is a couple from my local remote control flying field. I'm still loving this lens, and you would have to kill me to make me part with it :lol:

Andy Favors
3rd of October 2009 (Sat), 23:10
A couple I took over the last few days.........

http://www.andyfavors.com/photos/669179875_fYRfc-M.jpg

http://www.andyfavors.com/photos/669188635_ahfGf-M.jpg

http://www.andyfavors.com/photos/667283351_eNaTJ-M.jpg

900spg
4th of October 2009 (Sun), 00:25
A couple I took over the last few days.........

http://www.andyfavors.com/photos/669179875_fYRfc-M.jpg

http://www.andyfavors.com/photos/669188635_ahfGf-M.jpg

http://www.andyfavors.com/photos/667283351_eNaTJ-M.jpg
2 and 3 are fantastic!

jj fad
4th of October 2009 (Sun), 02:38
Here are some shots from Jamaica...

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk142/list_craigs/Other/Jamaica032.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk142/list_craigs/Other/Jamaica034.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk142/list_craigs/Other/Jamaica095.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk142/list_craigs/Other/Jamaica242.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk142/list_craigs/Other/Jamaica250.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk142/list_craigs/Other/Jamaica253.jpg

Goincarcrazy
4th of October 2009 (Sun), 19:43
To anyone who has this lens, a 1.4x TC, and a non-1 series camera, do you find it hard to manually focus accurately because of the dark and seemingly blotchy viewfinder? If so, do you have any tips or tricks to solve or help this problem?

Snow001
4th of October 2009 (Sun), 22:48
To anyone who has this lens, a 1.4x TC, and a non-1 series camera, do you find it hard to manually focus accurately because of the dark and seemingly blotchy viewfinder? If so, do you have any tips or tricks to solve or help this problem?


I would also appreciate an answer to this query. I am contemplating if I should get the 1.4 TC. Thanks

RAW-Shooter
4th of October 2009 (Sun), 22:59
I don't own that lens but I rented it a couple of weeks ago and used it with my Kenko 1.5X also. AF worked without any problems and I really don't know why it shouldn't. Any 2x is a different story though.

Goincarcrazy
4th of October 2009 (Sun), 23:16
WHOA, I was under the impression that unless you have a 1D series camera that AF wouldn't work (seeing that widest aperture is 6.3). Not saying I don't trust you, but can anyone back this up or have a similar story? if this is the case, adios Canon 1.4II, hello Kenko 1.5!

You didn't use the "pin hack" and tape over a pin or anything to trick it to AF did ya?

KenjiS
5th of October 2009 (Mon), 00:15
WHOA, I was under the impression that unless you have a 1D series camera that AF wouldn't work (seeing that widest aperture is 6.3). Not saying I don't trust you, but can anyone back this up or have a similar story? if this is the case, adios Canon 1.4II, hello Kenko 1.5!

You didn't use the "pin hack" and tape over a pin or anything to trick it to AF did ya?


Some teleconverters are "Non reporting" meaning they lack the pins that transfer the TC data to the body..

Andy Favors
5th of October 2009 (Mon), 02:52
Almost didn't get this one, AI Servo was acting up on me. The split second it was in focus, i snapped it. Thoughts?

http://www.andyfavors.com/photos/670186245_jNJZn-L-1.jpg

funhouse69
5th of October 2009 (Mon), 02:54
I was out Leaf-Peeping with my sister today and when it got dark the Full Moon showed up so we had to pull over and take a few pics.

Here's one taken with my "Pump" / 5D Mark II

http://www.rockingpictures.com/photos/670404590_RcX2u-XL.jpg

Madweasel
5th of October 2009 (Mon), 15:16
To anyone who has this lens, a 1.4x TC, and a non-1 series camera, do you find it hard to manually focus accurately because of the dark and seemingly blotchy viewfinder? If so, do you have any tips or tricks to solve or help this problem?

Aside from non-reporting TCs, or the 'tape trick', both of which force the camera to try to focus when the light is coming into the AF system at too narrow an angle for reliable focussing, there are a few things you can do.

The first is to just have a go at manual focussing. It can be a little hit or miss, but especially at closer ranges, where the DOF is quite narrow, the focus point can be quite easy to pick out. This process can be made easier by changing focussing screen, but you may also then need to dial in a permanent exposure compensation, depending which screen you choose.

You have the 50D, which has Liveview. This can be the best way to focus if your subject is not moving. It works best if your camera is tripod mounted. By using the magnification available in LV, you can get the best focus possible - even better than AF would give you. Another option for non-moving subjects is to AF without the converter/extender in place, then switching to manual focus and taking care not to move the focus ring, and then put the TC on. The focus will still be correct. For things like the moon, I put the lens on the tripod and use Liveview.

Goincarcrazy
5th of October 2009 (Mon), 20:34
Thanks for that ton of info and idea's madweasel! I didn't even think about using LV with it to be honest. Unfortunately most of my subjects are moving (squirrels, birds, etc), but for the moon, I'm going to try live view...as soon as the clouds clear outta here!

I guess I'm still getting used to the TC and the dark viewfinder and having to MF with that, but I'm sure it'll come in time. I'm gonna take a trip out to the zoo as soon as the sun comes back out and see how this puppy does. The couple of shots I've managed to squeeze off with the TC and 100-400L show no real noticeable difference in IQ, which I'm VERY happy with!

aviator.4.life
6th of October 2009 (Tue), 12:50
I'm thinking of getting rid of my 70-200 for this, looks like a fantastic lens for outdoors which i mostly do.

Andy Favors
6th of October 2009 (Tue), 15:21
I have both the 70-200 F4 non IS and the 100-400. I have used the 70-200 maybe 3 times since I got this lens 6 months ago. It's on my camera probably 95% of the time. I just can't part with my 70-200 though, it's amazingly sharp. So it sits, collecting dust, haha

Goincarcrazy
6th of October 2009 (Tue), 18:03
I got the 100-400L first then got the 70-200 some time after. Big mistake. I ended up selling the 70-200 within a couple months because I never used it. Yeah the 70-200 crazy sharp, but I just can't deny the reach and versatility of the 100-400L

dilorenzo1954
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 00:44
Almost didn't get this one, AI Servo was acting up on me. The split second it was in focus, i snapped it. Thoughts?


I love it Andy!Great capture.

From the Lowery Zoo in Tampa...

http://edl1954.smugmug.com/photos/671482553_ZipmL-X2.jpg (http://edl1954.smugmug.com/Vacation/Florida-2009/9783605_hzLC6#671482553_ZipmL)

KenjiS
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 01:11
ISO1600 - 1/250 - f/5.6 - 30D

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac117/KitsunetsukiPhotography/IMG_3205-Edit.jpg

ISO1600 - 1/400 - f/5.6 - 30D

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac117/KitsunetsukiPhotography/IMG_3213-Edit.jpg

ISO1600 - 1/800 - f/5.6 - 30D

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac117/KitsunetsukiPhotography/IMG_3220-Edit.jpg

ISO1600 - 1/800 - f/5.6 - 30D

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac117/KitsunetsukiPhotography/IMG_3228-Edit.jpg

stonyzmom
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 01:24
Some shots I took while golfing.......

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1148/47460899.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7137/60533688.jpg

coalcliff
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 01:47
Good to see you managed a couple of birdies whilst at golf :D:D:D

here is a bird I captured with the mighty 100-400!

Using the break wall as a long lead in to the subject
http://photocamel.com/gallery/data/3121/Lauren_Quinn_19-09-09_0039_blissfull_recline_breakwater_bg_i.jpg (http://photocamel.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49274)

And in this shot I was halfway across the park with families all around me lol.

http://photocamel.com/gallery/data/3121/Lauren_Quinn_19-09-09_0053_edit_MM.jpg (http://photocamel.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49275)

so its a great fashion lens too!

cfibanez
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 02:18
I have both the 70-200 F4 non IS and the 100-400. I have used the 70-200 maybe 3 times since I got this lens 6 months ago. It's on my camera probably 95% of the time. I just can't part with my 70-200 though, it's amazingly sharp. So it sits, collecting dust, haha

I got the 100-400L first then got the 70-200 some time after. Big mistake. I ended up selling the 70-200 within a couple months because I never used it. Yeah the 70-200 crazy sharp, but I just can't deny the reach and versatility of the 100-400L


I'm thinking of getting rid of my 70-200 for this, looks like a fantastic lens for outdoors which i mostly do.

I am thinking of picking up a dust pump in a week or so for my trip to the Galapagos. My 70-200 IS 2.8 will stay at home but it won't be sold. I love the 70-200 IS 2.8 and I think it fulfills a different purpose. I would not take the pump to a concert for instance.

Andy Favors
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 08:34
I do wish my 70-200 was a 2.8 IS. Maybe I'll upgrade to that someday, and it will get more use. I used my 70-200 last night at a football game. Not sure which I liked better, that or the 100-400. Lighting was not so good, the 2.8 would have been so much better. I wish I had a camera with better high ISO performance. I am having to shoot at 1000+ ISO's at football games.

blackwhitephotos
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 12:15
Canon 100-400mm this lens is fantastic on a 40D. best for sport and birds photography.

Goincarcrazy
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 12:28
I will say that if you already have a 70-200, you MIGHT want to just get a 400L 5.6 as its noticeably sharper (than mine at least), but I will say I like having the versatility of the 100-400 zoom.

aviator.4.life
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 12:46
I would if I could afford both but i prefer the flexibility of the zoom.

Goincarcrazy
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 12:46
OHHH, ones gotta go to get the other one? I hate making those decisions, haha.

aviator.4.life
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 12:53
haha yeah, but since i shoot sports and wildlife I feel this lens will work better for me

cfibanez
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 13:43
I will say that if you already have a 70-200, you MIGHT want to just get a 400L 5.6 as its noticeably sharper (than mine at least), but I will say I like having the versatility of the 100-400 zoom.


400mm without IS? Hmmmm.... :confused:

Andy Favors
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 16:34
Gotta have the IS. I wish that the IS on the 100-400 was better. We really need a 100-400 2.0. It would help in low light, which as of late, is when I use it most. I've been shooting a lot of elk, and early in the morning, or late in the evening is the best times of course. Nothing ever just comes together with photography does it? lol

Goincarcrazy
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 19:12
Gotta have the IS. I wish that the IS on the 100-400 was better. We really need a 100-400 2.0. It would help in low light, which as of late, is when I use it most. I've been shooting a lot of elk, and early in the morning, or late in the evening is the best times of course. Nothing ever just comes together with photography does it? lol

100-400 2.0 would be a 5K+ lens. It'd be nice, but even if they made it, I wouldn't be able to afford one. This lens does suffer heavily in dusk or dawn shadowy conditions, I'll admit that, but what super telephoto lens around this price range doesn't?

Andy Favors
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 19:13
lol. oops, I didn't mean aperture 2.0, i mean, version 2.0 Sorry.

Goincarcrazy
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 19:14
oh, haha! whoops! gotcha now. yeah, it'd be nice for them to put the new 4 stop hyrbid IS on there. THEN this lens would be an unbeatable contender!

peterbj7
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 20:49
If you mean 100-400 f2.0 I hate to think how heavy that would be. Or how expensive.

Molnies
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 21:13
If you mean 100-400 f2.0 I hate to think how heavy that would be. Or how expensive.
Well Sigmas 200-500 f/2.8 @ 15.7kg and $29k can give us some suggestion... :lol:

Echoherbie
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 21:32
Some shots I took while golfing.......

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1148/47460899.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7137/60533688.jpg

How did you manage to cart your golf bag and camera with 100-400mm with you on your golf game? I have been thinking of doing this but i am afraid my flightmates will throw their clubs at me or aiming the ball at me while i taking photo.

peterbj7
7th of October 2009 (Wed), 22:52
I used to downhill ski with my A1 and Tamron SP 70-210. Not as big as the 5D/Dust Pump combo, but getting there. Amazingly I never fell over when I was carrying this thing around my neck under my jacket (necessary to keep it warm enough to work reliably).

.mark.
8th of October 2009 (Thu), 13:14
A few from a hill climb earlier this year

398671

398672

.mark.
8th of October 2009 (Thu), 13:15
and one more
398673

C&C always welcome

stonyzmom
8th of October 2009 (Thu), 19:30
I took a cart so I was able to take the camera and lens. I love golf, but I also look at golf as a photo opportunity. Hahaa!

stonyzmom
8th of October 2009 (Thu), 20:09
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1695/142hn.jpg

Swann1
9th of October 2009 (Fri), 01:48
I took a cart so I was able to take the camera and lens. I love golf, but I also look at golf as a photo opportunity. Hahaa!
Good to see you're an optimist. There are some that see golf as a good walk ruined.

Nice photos too.

Goincarcrazy
9th of October 2009 (Fri), 22:18
Went birding yesterday and amongst other shots, here are a few I came out with:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3470/3994629748_41f62cfeab_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2587/3994608852_8fc0623e88_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3477/3993631783_e4fb3472e8_b.jpg

cfibanez
10th of October 2009 (Sat), 04:10
[FONT=Century Gothic]Went birding yesterday and amongst other shots, here are a few I came out with:


These are very nice, congratulations!

Were they all handheld? I am looking at getting this lens, but I wonder how easy/difficult is the push-pull zooming while handholding the lens. Thanks!

Goincarcrazy
10th of October 2009 (Sat), 12:17
Yup, all hand-held. Don't even own a decent tripod.

The push pull takes a little bit to get used to, but once you get used to it, you find its actually pretty handy. For me it's actually more stable than if my hands were closer together on the lens. Plus the IS helps a lot too! It's still a huge light hog, but as long as you can keep it at like 1/160 or faster, you'll be alright.